Recap: Against All Odds, Rays Lose.

by P Brady on Aug 20, 2008 10:43 PM EDT Comment 61 comments

via www.fangraphs.com

Too angry to give a blow by blow

Random Musings:

GAHHHHHHHHH UMPS
GAHHHHHHHHH RUGGIANO
GAHHHHHHHHHH NAVI
GAHHHHHHHHHHH AKI
GAHHHHHHHHHHH K-ROD
Balfour is good at striking people out.
Bradford can get ground balls
Besides the one inning, Garza was great
GAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH.

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In closing, GAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

"STP is me. He can do everything I can do." - R.J. Anderson

by P Brady on Aug 20, 2008 10:44 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

I hope you're angry at Joe

Ruggs to LF

Navi as a PH

Why not Howell in to pitch to Anderson

by sternfan1 on Aug 20, 2008 10:47 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Tell me, how is this Joe's fault?

What was wrong with Navi pinch-hitting? Is he somehow crappy all of the sudden? Why did you need Howell in there? Wasn’t Bradford’s groundball to Aki good enough for you? If all the plays worked out for the Rays tonight, you wouldn’t be talking shit. Sterny, you are one annoying dude, but then you already knew that. I’m sure you realize that the Angels are a good team(best record in AL now), and that aside from the bad calls, the breaks just didn’t go the Rays way. Shit happens. Just ask your mom.

by rayweaver on Aug 20, 2008 11:07 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

I hate Navi as a PH

he’s an auto DP machine

ANd check that BA, sinking as fast as the Titanic

by sternfan1 on Aug 20, 2008 11:10 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

winning 2 of 3 against LA, and also having boston lose?

In the larger picture……not so much gah

by Acadien on Aug 20, 2008 10:47 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

I hate going to CHI on a loss

by sternfan1 on Aug 20, 2008 10:48 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Navi has requested a number change to #43

It’ll make it easy on the scorer

by sternfan1 on Aug 20, 2008 10:48 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Navarro: 12 GDP Crawford: 10

GOD NAVARRO, WHY YOU GROUND INTO SO MANY DPS? BE MORE LIKE CARL.

by R.J. Anderson on Aug 21, 2008 10:23 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Btw...it's a team effort. That's why I named those guys. One guy didnt lose that game.

by td32 on Aug 20, 2008 11:00 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Gah to ESPN for making the game blacked out on MLB.TV (even w/ proxy)

by Top Gun Numba 1 on Aug 20, 2008 11:00 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

gah to MLB to have the umps try and destroy us

Longo=ROY. Friedman=Executive of the year. Maddon=Manager of the year. Gabe Gross= clutch.

by RaysOfHope on Aug 20, 2008 11:01 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

You should use a vpn to beat the proxy instead.

by plasticman on Aug 20, 2008 11:01 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Free outs are fun

Hinske: 2
Umpires: 2
Aki: 1
Ruggiano: 1

We could have easily shut these guys out tonight.

by Vin on Aug 20, 2008 11:00 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

The Angels could have also easily won the series.

The Rays had enough chances to win tonight and didn’t get it done.

by kericr on Aug 20, 2008 11:02 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Obviously

But the single to Mathis and the double to Figgans in the third were both plays that pretty much anybody but Hinske would have made. That nixes the scoring in the third. And hit/error/hit by Aki would’ve nixed the run in the 9th…

So I mean it kind of literally. We should have shut these guys out tonight.

by Vin on Aug 20, 2008 11:07 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Hey, gotta love takin two outta three against the team with the best record in baseball.

We’re still up on the Sawx!

by rglass44 on Aug 20, 2008 11:01 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

we couldve been the best team after tonight though

Longo=ROY. Friedman=Executive of the year. Maddon=Manager of the year. Gabe Gross= clutch.

by RaysOfHope on Aug 20, 2008 11:02 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

No way we end up with a better record

They play way to many gimmes. Division champs is all I want.

by rglass44 on Aug 20, 2008 11:04 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

ya im really happy with 2 out of 3

also really glad the red sux keep choking their chances to gain on us and the yankees sucking still

Longo=ROY. Friedman=Executive of the year. Maddon=Manager of the year. Gabe Gross= clutch.

by RaysOfHope on Aug 20, 2008 11:09 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Here we go zerO's

by rglass44 on Aug 20, 2008 11:01 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

btw rglass thanks for the invite to the football fantasy league

im MnVikings08? i picked that since i hope this is the year that they win the superbowl but they have been there 4 times and lost all of them

Longo=ROY. Friedman=Executive of the year. Maddon=Manager of the year. Gabe Gross= clutch.

by RaysOfHope on Aug 20, 2008 11:44 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Ruggs not what a defensive replacement is supposed to do

He should play for the Yankees, they are scared of the ball

by sofladude77 on Aug 20, 2008 11:03 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Dude...he lost the ball. He wasnt scared of it

by td32 on Aug 20, 2008 11:04 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

So you're callin him a loser?

by rglass44 on Aug 20, 2008 11:04 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Apparently some words have multiple meanings

by td32 on Aug 20, 2008 11:06 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

jonny damon is terrified of the ball

Longo=ROY. Friedman=Executive of the year. Maddon=Manager of the year. Gabe Gross= clutch.

by RaysOfHope on Aug 20, 2008 11:04 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

And Abreu I hear

is afraid of the wall!!

by sofladude77 on Aug 20, 2008 11:13 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

and A-Rod is afraid of playoff at bats, which i hope he doesnt see for the rest of his yankee career

Longo=ROY. Friedman=Executive of the year. Maddon=Manager of the year. Gabe Gross= clutch.

by RaysOfHope on Aug 20, 2008 11:17 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Not saying you are wrong, but I think Arod is better in the postseason then most people give him credit...

.279/.361/.483 in 147 postseason ab’s

by td32 on Aug 20, 2008 11:23 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

ya those are decent numbers, but since he has been in NY they have sucked

Longo=ROY. Friedman=Executive of the year. Maddon=Manager of the year. Gabe Gross= clutch.

by RaysOfHope on Aug 20, 2008 11:39 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

If Zo can play the 8th he can play the 9th

or put Rocco in

by sternfan1 on Aug 20, 2008 11:04 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

The Jays own the Sawx

Especially at home. Too bad Halladay isn’t going this weekend. They got Marcum, Litsch, and Burnett. Jays’ll take 2 of three.

by rglass44 on Aug 20, 2008 11:03 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Tough series this weekend against the ChiSox

Sweep would be great. Two-out-of-three would be nice. One-out-of-three would be acceptable. A sweep sucks ass.

by kericr on Aug 20, 2008 11:07 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

*getting swept sucks ass

by kericr on Aug 20, 2008 11:08 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

I'm believing we get 1 out of 3

tough pitching matchups for the Rays

by sofladude77 on Aug 20, 2008 11:08 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Jackson v Danks

I don’t even think I’ll watch. Thats gonna be brutal.
But given the way Sonny is pitching, I think we can win the other two.

by Vin on Aug 20, 2008 11:10 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Jackson is our road warrior

Don’t discount him, but Danks owned us last time

by sofladude77 on Aug 20, 2008 11:11 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

every series im just hopeing for 2 out of 3 and a sweep if possible

Longo=ROY. Friedman=Executive of the year. Maddon=Manager of the year. Gabe Gross= clutch.

by RaysOfHope on Aug 20, 2008 11:11 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Vazquez we gotta tag

He is suckin this year

by sofladude77 on Aug 20, 2008 11:09 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Two lefties this weekend

No Hinske Friday or Sunday, Pena power disappears. I think Baldelli plays two games

by sofladude77 on Aug 20, 2008 11:11 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Buerhle isn't great against lefties

We hit him pretty good last time. It is Danks who owns us like we’re his pimp. We haven’t touched him in two starts.

by Jason Collette on Aug 21, 2008 8:18 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Maddon is a bad gameday manager

I’ve been saying this for awhile now (years). He manages by feel instead of situations. Yesterday we bunt in a less bunt friendly scenario than tonight. It makes no sense. If we are bunting last night then we HAVE to bunt tonight. I just hate the managing by gut. It is just too hit and miss.

Quite a few of his moves tonight were debatable. But honestly the only one that was a horribly wrong was hitting Navi instead of bunting. The rest were close moves that just went bad. The Navi swinging away made no sense. If you think it makes sense then you ahve to admit Maddon screwed up last night. Cant have it both ways.

by matthan on Aug 20, 2008 11:58 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

I don't disagree with not bunting

but I do disagree with the decision to pinch hit Navi, who is a very big GIDP threat and has been slumping lately…

If there’s one thing that I can’t stand about Maddon, its that he lives and dies by the lefty/righty matchup. I can’t stand it sometimes.

by Vin on Aug 21, 2008 12:20 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

ugh

I also can’t stand making redundant statements. I can’t stand them, ever.

by Vin on Aug 21, 2008 12:21 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Well he shoudl have bunted Riggans and then had Navi hit for Bartlett if he really wanted Navi in there.

Maddon seems to try to look too far ahead to extra innings in these situations. That is the wrong move. You do not worry about who plays where and who pitches what down 1 run in the bottom of the 9th. The only thing that matters is tying the game. If that means you have to play quite a bit out of position then so be it. (oh btw Maddon K-Rod hasn’t thrown more than 1 inning all year, and the Angels had already arguably used their top 2 non-closer bullpen guys).

There is just absolutely no way Navi swings there. He is basically no XBH threat so you are banking on three singles against arguably the best reliever in baseball.

I just do not like the inconsistency you get when you manager by feel so much.

by matthan on Aug 21, 2008 3:26 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Ejected

Maddon was ejected from last night’s game before the Bartlett bunt and insisted that he had nothing to do with bunting late, that he was watching on television at that point with Zimmer, just like any other fan. Martinez called for it.

by Bobby Fenton on Aug 21, 2008 12:02 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs

So Martinez and Maddon should switch roles

That would be perfect. Maddon just sucks at making strategic decisions.

by matthan on Aug 21, 2008 12:13 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

And yet after all of this...

The Red Sox lost, and one more day of the season evaporated with Boston still 4.5 games back. Tick…tick…tick…tick…

by RayFanNY on Aug 21, 2008 1:57 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs

It was a good game. Somedays you are the pigeon and somedays you are the statue.

I think if we pull Hinske from LF Benzo should replace him out there and Ruggs should have been the RF’er but hindsight it 20/20. Third Base ump should have made up for the Bad call at first by calling Figgans out on the steal attempt at third. It came down to the catchers last night. Their double steal was safe and ours was out. Simple as that. I dont know why you would think about stealing with Hinkse late in the game anyways. 1 steal for Hinske in a game is a gutsy call but a double steal with one out is pushing your luck. But I have to give them credit. They played aggressive baseball. Nice to see. Garza pitched well. Some of those runs he allowed were defensive hiccups. 2 out of 3 in Chicago would be fine with me as well.

by PewterPirate55 on Aug 21, 2008 7:19 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Why didn't we keep Balfour in during the 9th?

He’s effectively thrown multiple innings before. He could have gotten out of that jam. But oh well…

Do not think that what is hard for you to master is humanly impossible; but if a thing is humanly possible, consider it to be within your reach.

by Orlando Rays on Aug 21, 2008 9:09 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs

He also walked the leadoff batter on 4 pitches...

Lets be honest….Balfour doesnt walk the leadoff hitter, if Ruggiano catches the routine popup, if Riggans makes a decent throw, or if Aki makes a play that wasnt that difficult…..then the Rays are heading to the bottom of the 9th with a tie game.

by td32 on Aug 21, 2008 9:21 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

If ...

If if’s and but’s were candy and nuts no one would ever starve.

That is what I tell the little leaguers I coach.

by PewterPirate55 on Aug 21, 2008 9:43 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Rays loss

So much for the Rug-Man he has been a disappointment. I would have put in Rocco but that is hind-site. I also would have bunted in the 9th, hind-site also. In the best of two worlds BOS would have lost and they did. Magic # 32

by CharlieRay on Aug 21, 2008 10:03 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs

His LD%/BABIP don't match up.

Guys hitting nearly 30% LDs don’t have .323 BABIPs.

by R.J. Anderson on Aug 21, 2008 10:26 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

#32 is the key

Every game we when or they lose, the likelihood of winning the division gets greater and greater.

OGaaT, I know GSG.

Let’s play with the schedule. We have 36 games remaining with half at home and half away. We have a .723 winning percentage at home this year and .491 on the road. If we win at those current rates, we would take 13 at home and 9 away, for 22 wins. The Sawx would have to go 26-9 to match it, a winning percentage of .743. That is nuts.

Let’s see what happens if we back it down a bit and say we’ll lose a few more at home and on the road. Let’s go 10-8 at home and 8-10 on the road. This would be .500 baseball over 36 games. That would be our worst stretch this year. The Sawx would still have to win 22/35 to match us, or a winning percentage of .629. I didn’t look it up, but that would most likely be there best stretch of the year. That is a 102 win pace, and right now the Sawx don’t look like a team that could go on a run like that.

We just need to win games, and the more the Sawx lose the better. How great would it be if the Sawx and Yanks both missed the Playoffs? BTW, the Sawx have 10 left against the Jays, who own them. They haven’t had a winning record against them since 2004 and are 2-6 so far this year.

Here we go Twins, ChiSox, Jays, and Rays!

by rglass44 on Aug 21, 2008 11:03 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs