Double Plays
by R.J. Anderson on Aug 21, 2008 10:44 AM EDT
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PrintUsing NetDP and StatCorner here are the top twin killers hitting and pitching. NetDP is a Baseball Prospectus stat, here's the definition:
The number of additional double plays generated versus an average player with the same number of opportunities. Negative NET DP indicates that fewer double plays than average were produced.
| # | NAME | TEAM | LG | YEAR | DP | DP% | NETDP |
| 1 | Hinske | TBA | AL | 2008 | 14 | 19.20% | 4.33 |
| 2 | Navarro | TBA | AL | 2008 | 12 | 17.90% | 3.12 |
| 3 | Riggans | TBA | AL | 2008 | 5 | 31.30% | 2.88 |
| 4 | Bartlett | TBA | AL | 2008 | 11 | 17.50% | 2.65 |
| 5 | Longoria | TBA | AL | 2008 | 11 | 13.60% | 0.27 |
| 6 | Gross | TBA | AL | 2008 | 6 | 13.00% | -0.1 |
| 7 | Zobrist | TBA | AL | 2008 | 3 | 10.70% | -0.71 |
| 8 | Gomes | TBA | AL | 2008 | 2 | 7.40% | -1.58 |
| 9 | Aybar | TBA | AL | 2008 | 5 | 9.80% | -1.76 |
| 10 | Floyd | TBA | AL | 2008 | 3 | 8.30% | -1.77 |
| 11 | Upton | TBA | AL | 2008 | 12 | 11.00% | -2.45 |
| 12 | Pena | TBA | AL | 2008 | 8 | 9.90% | -2.73 |
| 13 | Crawford | TBA | AL | 2008 | 11 | 9.50% | -4.37 |
| 14 | Iwamura | TBA | AL | 2008 | 2 | 2.90% | -7.14 |
So the best player at avoiding double plays is Aki, followed by Crawford, Pena, and Upton. I'm a bit surprised that Floyd is in the negatives and lower than Zobrist, but that's where perception is apparently wrong. Hinske, Navarro, Riggans, Bartlett, and Longoria (barely) are the worst at avoiding double plays and cause more than an average player would in their place.
Now for the pitchers:
| # | Pitcher | GDP |
| 1 | Jackson | 22 |
| 2 | Garza | 19 |
| 3 | Shields | 16 |
| 4 | Sonny | 12 |
| 5 | Bradford | 11 |
| 6 | Hammel | 6 |
| 7 | Howell | 6 |
| 8 | Miller | 4 |
| 9 | Kazmir | 2 |
| 10 | Wheeler | 2 |
| 11 | Percival | 0 |
| 12 | Balfour | 0 |
No surprise, the strikeout pitchers are mostly near the bottom. Kazmir only having two with that slider is more than a bit disappointing, and I hadn't realized that Miller had gotten quite that many.
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Exactly why i posted not to use Navi as a PH
last night
He should change his number to 43 to help the scorer out
On the left side hit "wide".
That’s my setting and it works well.
by R.J. Anderson on Aug 21, 2008 11:08 AM EDT up reply actions
If only he didn't walk himself into those jams.
by R.J. Anderson on Aug 21, 2008 11:08 AM EDT up reply actions
That's why
The more runners on the more likely to GIDP. One thing that would make this post more useful would be to have a GIDP%, the percentage of DP opportunities the pitcher actually gets DPs. Another interesting aspect would be the defense as a whole compared to other defenses.
I like that GIDP% idea.
I’d have to get the numbers together.
by R.J. Anderson on Aug 21, 2008 11:11 AM EDT up reply actions
I'm looking at it on BR
They don’t have the necessary stats. One idea I was thinking about is adding up all the times there was a runner on first, first and second, and bases loaded (which is available). Then divide it by the percentage of PAs with less than 2 outs. Then look at GIDPs as a percentage of that number. What do you think?
I thought they used to list the #2 with and without 2 outs.
I guess not. Let me see if I can’t find another way.
by R.J. Anderson on Aug 21, 2008 11:18 AM EDT up reply actions
If we were to do this for the whole team
We’d be able to compare the IF defense and see how much better it truly is.
does BPro have netDP for pitchers?
my blog // calling BJ Upton lazy is lazy // past results do not guarantee future performance
Like I said...
he works himself out of those jams.
by save_the_trop on Aug 21, 2008 11:13 AM EDT up reply actions
If only he'd apply the no walks &groundball inducing process full time
He’d be a good pitcher.
by R.J. Anderson on Aug 21, 2008 11:15 AM EDT up reply actions
For a pitcher who throws mid to upper 90s
his H/IP sucks
As does his K/9 and BB/9
Oh and FB/GB.
by R.J. Anderson on Aug 21, 2008 11:17 AM EDT up reply actions
Sonnanstine is better.
If we’re planning on winning, yes, if we’re trying to keep the large upsides and rebuild I deal Sonny. Unless of course someone is willing to overpay.
by R.J. Anderson on Aug 21, 2008 11:22 AM EDT up reply actions
I'd be very critical of dealing Sonny
did you see Nieman’s gem last night?
Where does he fit in ’09?
Bullpen or traded
Most likely. The alternative is someone in the rotation gets traded and Price starts in AAA.
Vogt early, Vogt often.
He's still learning...
have you not noticed most of his hits and walks come with nobody on base. He really seems to concentrate better when he is in a jam. He’ll learn to have the same concentration from the start before long.
by save_the_trop on Aug 21, 2008 11:18 AM EDT up reply actions
I disagree. I believe Edwin concentrates as fully as he can no matter what.
by R.J. Anderson on Aug 21, 2008 11:20 AM EDT up reply actions
Sorry, I forgot who I was talking to...
I meant EJax should go to Vegas, ’cause he is one lucky s.o.b.
by save_the_trop on Aug 21, 2008 11:34 AM EDT up reply actions
Possible reason for Kazmir low DP numbers (also good fangraphs article)
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by Sandy Kazmir on Aug 21, 2008 11:36 AM EDT up reply actions
I think this has been covered before
I don’t expect to see the kick-ass Kazmir we had the first month of the season again this year since it doesn’t look like he’s trying to get his slider back to a reliable pitch at this point. If we have this Kaz next year, I think it’s time we start looking to do something with him. Kaz’s fastball is not a good enough pitch to rely on 75% of the time, and and he’s lost velocity on it which makes it a worse pitch than before that.
He's better than average, though...
Yes, 11’s a lot, but he also batted in a TON of double play situations. (Batting third he often comes up in the first inning with less than two outs a runner on.)
my blog // calling BJ Upton lazy is lazy // past results do not guarantee future performance
ok, so what's it all worth
A double-play is worth about .4 run more costly that the average out, on average. So Hinske’s extra DPs cost the team about 1.75 runs while Aki’s lack of DPs saves them team about 3 runs. It matters, but isn’t a huge deal.
These numbers show another reason Upton will make a good #2 going forward: lack of GIDPs.
my blog // calling BJ Upton lazy is lazy // past results do not guarantee future performance
OT: SEPTEMBER
I just peeked at the schedule
starting 9/2 we play 28 games in 27 days and 18 on the road
We need to win this series in CHW, and jump all over the big homestand after that
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