8/27: TOR (68-63) at RAYS (79-51)
by Patrick L. Kennedy on Aug 27, 2008 3:00 PM EDT
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boras claimed the contract signing took place after midnight and wants to renegotiate
for $200,000 more. so annoying.
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Yeah...
PIttsburgh is saying MLB confirmed contract before midnight.
Boom. Outta Here.
by Ryan Gilliss on Aug 27, 2008 4:16 PM EDT up reply actions
It's BS
Boras knows the monetary terms can’t change, he’s trying to leverage other terms, and probably failing at it. The new MLB rules about getting a pick in the next year’s draft really put a crimp in Boras’ negotiating style, and he’s trying to create his own new loophole so he can distinguish himself from other agents.
Vogt early, Vogt often.
Ever see Swimming with Sharks
Working for that kind of control freak is never fun. You would get zero input, and he’d leave you out of all the important decisions, so you wouldn’t even get insight to his negotiating style. Getting a job for IMG would be much better.
Vogt early, Vogt often.
They should just let him rot on the restricted list
MLB recognizes the contract but he doesn’t; he can’t turn to the player’s union for help, because that would be admitting he signed a valid contract. Let Boras stupidly try to take this to a real court of law, Alvarez isn’t going to want to foot the bill and will dump his ass faster than a concrete truck.
Purcey is going to be introduced to the Pain Gang tonight
wooooooooooooooooooooooooo
Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't matter, and those who matter don't mind.
Per ESPN Chat...
Dan (Miami, FL): Rays catcher of the future? Jaso or Navarro
Jim Callis: Jaso
Jaso looks funny.
Which means absolutely nothing.
by R.J. Anderson on Aug 27, 2008 4:43 PM EDT up reply actions
does he have a good ass for a MLB catcher?
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We're not selling jeans here
Although if we were, I’d recommend signing Jeremy Brown.
Vogt early, Vogt often.
Purcey has a 7.47 tRA
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No tRA, no stories about ex-girlfriends. Sheesh.
by R.J. Anderson on Aug 27, 2008 5:03 PM EDT up reply actions
I died a little inside reading that yesterday.
Seriously, you stood up for your girlfriends honor by defending the Rays? You’re about as smooth as 20 grit.
But the fact that people have a doubt is either hilarious or sad to me.
by R.J. Anderson on Aug 27, 2008 5:11 PM EDT up reply actions
The more suttle and straight-faced the sarcasm is, the harder it is for me to pick up.
Generally, if I think that someone could actually do something they’re claiming happened, I don’t pick it up as sarcasm. That’s not to say that I think you would do something like that, but being I don’t really know you, I can’t bring that into the equation. I could see someone doing what you said as not too far fetched. It’s a horribly misguided, hillarious, and sad concept, but it’s not beyond someone doing.
Yes, but do I not seem like a logical person?
And does that act not seem illogical?
by R.J. Anderson on Aug 27, 2008 5:22 PM EDT up reply actions
You're ready to beat the crap out of someone who's groping on your girlfriend. Completely illogical.
Not that part.
Rather the part where I say don’t talk trash about the Rays.
by R.J. Anderson on Aug 27, 2008 5:39 PM EDT up reply actions
Speaking hyopthetically, here’s how I interpreted it:
You saw someone groping on your girlfriend – Logical
You stood up and defended her – Logical
In taking offense to what the guy said, you said something very very dumb – Illogical and hillarious
Getting dumped afterwards – Logical if what you said above in defending her is legit
Therefore, I fell for it. Now if you had said that she banged your brains out afterwards, I would have picked up the sarcasm.
Then I should've started it off...
“Dear Penthouse”. See, I thought the part about defending the team was a dead giveaway. I know better now.
by R.J. Anderson on Aug 27, 2008 6:02 PM EDT up reply actions
so you know how...
some times you read a word or phrase that is similar but not exactly the same as something you see all the time and you mis-read it? For about 0.2 seconds I got really excited that David Price was starting this game and somehow I had lived under a rock for the last few days.
It couldn't hurt.
but I’m going to assume that I’ve got english mastered dispite this slip up and focus my attention on Rosetta Stone
Tonite's line-up has the distinct
sound of 4A written all over it
I’m worried
Speaking of $A, how quicj will Dan Johnson be up here?
Especially if Longo is held back
I will be going soon, Just got some ticket money today
"STP is me. He can do everything I can do." - R.J. Anderson
+1
Are we allowed to plus one here, or am I going to be sued by Nick Denton?
Boom. Outta Here.
by Ryan Gilliss on Aug 27, 2008 6:27 PM EDT up reply actions
...2 of those guys are switch hitters.
Zobrist has better numbers against righties.
Bartlett isn’t a platoon player.
Navi is hurt.
Floyd, Hinske, and Gross should never be in the line-up vs LHP.
What are you complaining about?
Rocco: 1.081 OPS vs LHP (small sample size, but still)
Aybar: .793 OPS
Zobrist: .732 OPS
Riggans: .732 OPS
Ruggiano: .921 OPS (at Durham)
Bartlett: .821 OPS
I still don’t see the problem. None of that is horrible.
Agreed with lack of name..
I wonder why Bartlett isn’t higher. Didn’t Maddon bat him higher the game he DH’d? He should probably be top 4 against lefties.
Zobrist is our version of a scrapster.
by R.J. Anderson on Aug 27, 2008 7:15 PM EDT up reply actions
I don't hate him as much.
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LOL at Jim Courier
He brought up baseball replay and said that we need it so Lou Pinella doesn’t throw the bases around.
No. Hit mitocondria don't work.
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We're not gonna see that many lefties.
by R.J. Anderson on Aug 27, 2008 7:24 PM EDT up reply actions
"We will see if it works"
We won’t learn anything about it from this series alone.
by R.J. Anderson on Aug 27, 2008 7:26 PM EDT up reply actions
It's almost like we should use the available technology to end any possible bias.
But that’s too fucking insane. It would ruin the game really. I sure as hell don’t want talent deciding who wins and loses.
by R.J. Anderson on Aug 27, 2008 7:32 PM EDT up reply actions
Maybe shock collars for umps who blow calls
Works for me.
by PewterPirate55 on Aug 27, 2008 7:36 PM EDT up reply actions
Latest on Longoria?
I saw conflicting reports today, one said he will be back for the Sept 2nd Yankee series, the other said he is in too much pain to swing
This GDT lacks something funny and tRA.
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When healthy, their pitching is better.
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I actually disagree
Beckett is overrated (still good, just not some superstar), Dice-K is vastly overrated, then who else do they really have? Lester? Well he is comparable to Garza. We have a stronger 4-5 also.
I’d go
Beckett > Kazmir
Dice-K << Shields
Lester = Garza
Sonnanstine <<< whoever they decide to throw
Jackson << whoever they decide to throw
oops i screwed up my signs
flip jackson and sonny lol
If they're healthy no. As currently playing? I dunno. It's close.
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Dumbest Move of the Year ...
Trading Manny…
They would be better with Manny there. They should have traded Ortiz and kept Manny at DH. JD Drew being on the DL isnt helping them. Also if they had to play the Yankees every night they would finish with the best record in baseball too.
by PewterPirate55 on Aug 27, 2008 7:41 PM EDT up reply actions
Seriously?
Bay isn’t that far off offensively and way better defensively (although still a minus). They got better in that deal and gained financial flexibility.
by R.J. Anderson on Aug 27, 2008 7:43 PM EDT up reply actions
Funny because I think they got better this year and next year by not keeping Manny.
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Manny is a more reliable option at DH
When is the last season Ortiz did not spend time on the DL. DH’s should not be spending time on the DL.
by PewterPirate55 on Aug 27, 2008 7:45 PM EDT up reply actions
Their bullpen is better.
We have the better rotation and defense. They have the better pen and offense.
by R.J. Anderson on Aug 27, 2008 7:39 PM EDT up reply actions
tRAs:
Delcarmen 2.93
Balfour 2.23
After that he blows everyone in our pen away.
by R.J. Anderson on Aug 27, 2008 7:42 PM EDT up reply actions
Well Clay Buchholz has talent too
But he can’t get anyone out. Masterson blows Delcarmen away right now
No he doesn't.
Masterson Ks less, walks more, and allows more homeruns while inducing the same # of grounders and more liners.
by R.J. Anderson on Aug 27, 2008 7:47 PM EDT up reply actions
Who's pitching better??
No comparison, Boston would have Masterson in the rotation if not for their stinky middle relief
Delcarmen is pitching better.
I think I pretty much established that when I said:
Masterson Ks less, walks more, and allows more homeruns while inducing the same # of grounders and more liners.
Unless you think the better guy who is:
- less prone to strike someone out
- more prone to walk a batter
- more prone to give up a homerun
- more prone to give up a hit
by R.J. Anderson on Aug 27, 2008 7:50 PM EDT up reply actions
BAA is a poor stat to use to judge hittability.
It fluctuates based on things like defense. Delcarmen gives up less liners and therefore should have less hits fall for him. His BABIP is high for his 14 LD. Masterson’s is low for his LD. Those will regress.
Read the article I linked you to.
by R.J. Anderson on Aug 27, 2008 7:55 PM EDT up reply actions
Well
They play on the same team. They should have the same defense. Actually you can probably make the argument that Delcarmen would have better defense than Masterson due to Mastersons time as a starter (late inning defensive replacements). Although I get your point.
Same defense, yes.
But my point was on the metric itself more so than this specific case.
by R.J. Anderson on Aug 27, 2008 7:58 PM EDT up reply actions
Note that Masterson's ERA as reliever is
1.96, don’t count the starter stats. only 4 walks as a reliever. 18Ks in 18 IP. He turned A-ROD last nite into a DP victim with the bases loaded. Oh if you didn’t watch the game last nite Masterson got AROD out of the mess that Delcarmen made.
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by R.J. Anderson on Aug 27, 2008 8:00 PM EDT up reply actions
Still you are overrating Delcarmen
I’ll take Bradford, Balfour, and Wheeler over Delcarmen, end of story
Balfour is fine.
Wheeler or Bradford? You’re hurting your own team.
by R.J. Anderson on Aug 27, 2008 8:02 PM EDT up reply actions
A lot to prove?
He’s having a good season. Don’t hate on him for your usage of incomplete metrics.
by R.J. Anderson on Aug 27, 2008 8:04 PM EDT up reply actions
Most people are stupid.
Avoid being most people.
by R.J. Anderson on Aug 27, 2008 8:06 PM EDT up reply actions
I would take our bullpen over theirs
I think they have more talent. But as a whole unit our bullpen is more effective.
Take Papelbon v Percival. Sure Papelbon is FAR more talented at this stage than Percival, but the Red Sox get little edge there. The difference in real results(IE W/L in closing situations) between Percival and Papelbon is minimal at best.
Yeah, I think the opposite is true. I think our pen is stronger and their rotation is better.
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No. The AFL is an extremely advanced league.
He’s get absolutely eaten alive there.
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It's essentially AAA level quality, if not slightly higher
and in an extreme hitters environment.
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Is it really?
I’m not questioning you, but I didn’t know it was that high.
by R.J. Anderson on Aug 27, 2008 7:47 PM EDT up reply actions
Maybe above AAA is a slight exaggeration.
But it’s basically used as a MLB finishing school. A lot of guys getting close to the big leagues that need to get some more polish. Almost everyone is at least a marginal prospect. It’s a pretty high level.
Even if my assessment is a little high, Lobstein would be destroyed.
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His K rates are still lower than last season.
Unless you meant this month/last month, which is entirely possible.
by R.J. Anderson on Aug 27, 2008 7:49 PM EDT up reply actions
People, including myself, were hopeful his power was legitimate.
Unfortunately it’s went away this season which may be mechanical or physical. He has however advanced in other aspects of his offensive game.
by R.J. Anderson on Aug 27, 2008 7:51 PM EDT up reply actions
It is legit. Somethings wrong, but he'll figure it out. His bat speed is just too good for it not too.
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I think he will figure it out also.
His bat speed is insane and hopefully they can fix whatever is wrong.
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He hit 24 in 129 games last year. He'll be a 30-50 guy one day soon.
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Cy Purcey is only at 31 pitches
could be a good thing, despite him making us look like jackasses so far, he’s not that good, the bullpen is
We are facing arguably the worst pitcher we've seen all year
We should have 10 runs by now. THe guy sucks nuts. I can hit his fast ball.
Do it.
You won’t
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I'm sure I could hit it.
90 and pretty straight isn’t that tough. I wouldn’t hit it well, but at least I’d hit it.
How many will the Rays call up Sept. 1st?
I say Dohman, Niemann, Talbot, and Price for pitchers. (maybe Birkins?)
And Gomes, Guzman, Perez, ( Chris Richard, Dan Johnson or E. Johnson maybe?)
No more than a half dozen right?
This is the first time I've actually meant it. LOL
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Yes
His precise words were " Do you want him to set it on a T for you "
by PewterPirate55 on Aug 27, 2008 8:00 PM EDT up reply actions
yeah...
but it was a tough play… don’t get me wrong, I was pretty upset about it too… but wasn’t exactly routine.
he is a major leaguer
catching a ball off the top of the second hop isn’t hard
We are always in trouble in his world.
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I would love it if all the attendance talk stayed in those two fanposts.
In fact I think I may make that a rule.
by R.J. Anderson on Aug 27, 2008 8:03 PM EDT up reply actions
Where is Patrick L. Kennedy?!!?!?!?
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That would be like seeing Big Foot.
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now that the inning has ended
I say these are the call ups
Hitters: Dan Johnson, Jonny Gomes, Fernando Perez(and we wont use him I bet) and Joel Guzman
Pitchers: Jeff Niemann, Mitch Talbot, Scott Dohman
that makes 32 players plus Longo back, 33 player roster and we should get a 34th the last week.
Price has been pitching his way out of a promotion
4 fans fight hard for their air time.. Please Rate
1) Sign Lady (Sign for every possible play for every player. Including minor leagers and VSL players)
2) Fat upper deck sign guy (Zimmer Look -A-Like)that while everybody is going ape, he is cheesing in front of the camera with a print my play-off ticket sign
3)TTTAAAAMMMMMPPPPPAAAAAAA Yeller guy. That should be gone soon as football season is starting soon.
4)Happy Heckler.
Happy Heckler has been here through the rough.
The first three don’t deserve anything.
by R.J. Anderson on Aug 27, 2008 8:03 PM EDT up reply actions
+1 For the Heckler
I’m going to be the guy at the game next time that screams “SHUT THE FUCK UP” after the guy screams “TAMPA”
There Is the Bias I am talking about
Pitch #3 to Bartlett this is some bull shit …
Riggans needs to let a Garza fast ball by him and nail the Ump right in the giggle berries.
Which means I won't have to start a fight.
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I wouldn't start a fight about it.
But they’re acting like Philly fans.
by R.J. Anderson on Aug 27, 2008 8:07 PM EDT up reply actions
I wasn't serious.
I get into a discussion and prove them wrong. It is annoying.
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Fact.
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Imagine paying $400 for you and your signicant other to watch the game right next to the heckler....
That’s like taking your money and shredding it….may as well buy a 12 pack and watch at home
So we should all buy cheap tickets?
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Be like the cool kids.
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Since Patrick L. Kennedy is never here!!!
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So these are needs for 2009?
That’s what I’m assuming you meant.
Simple Sternfan1. We s..s…su….suck.ck…ck.
I think we're planning on fielding more than three fielders next year.
by R.J. Anderson on Aug 27, 2008 8:07 PM EDT up reply actions
No dude fuck that.
3 fielders is all we need.
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We could go with the five infielders look when Bradford comes in.
by R.J. Anderson on Aug 27, 2008 8:09 PM EDT up reply actions
Sounds pimp.
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I want Upton to play SS.
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I'm not a huge Navi fan
But he isn’t one of our top problems. Frankly I wanted Posey.
Navi quietest 290hitter in MLB
aki, poor OBP for leadoff
Actually Navi has been sucking for awhile
His average has been dropping reallllllllllllllly fast.
It is so obvious
BJ should hit leadoff until he develops power.