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Toronto Blue Jays @ Tampa Bay Rays


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2008 - David Purcey 2-4 7 7 0 0 0 0 34.1 32 25 25 7 21 25 6.55 1.54

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2008 - Matt Garza 10-7 24 24 3 2 0 0 150.1 138 67 62 14 47 105 3.71 1.23

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Anyone see MLB...

put Pedro Alvarez on the restricted list.

Boom. Outta Here.

by WillisDaddy on Aug 27, 2008 4:14 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

boras claimed the contract signing took place after midnight and wants to renegotiate

for $200,000 more. so annoying.

my blog // calling BJ Upton lazy is lazy // past results do not guarantee future performance

by Sky Kalkman on Aug 27, 2008 4:14 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Yeah...

PIttsburgh is saying MLB confirmed contract before midnight.

Boom. Outta Here.

by WillisDaddy on Aug 27, 2008 4:16 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

It's BS

Boras knows the monetary terms can’t change, he’s trying to leverage other terms, and probably failing at it. The new MLB rules about getting a pick in the next year’s draft really put a crimp in Boras’ negotiating style, and he’s trying to create his own new loophole so he can distinguish himself from other agents.

Vogt early, Vogt often.

by Brickhaus on Aug 27, 2008 4:53 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Ever see Swimming with Sharks

Working for that kind of control freak is never fun. You would get zero input, and he’d leave you out of all the important decisions, so you wouldn’t even get insight to his negotiating style. Getting a job for IMG would be much better.

Vogt early, Vogt often.

by Brickhaus on Aug 27, 2008 4:55 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Either way

I just want to be his disciple. Make BANK doing what you love (being a douche and shit).

by rglass44 on Aug 27, 2008 4:57 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

They should just let him rot on the restricted list

MLB recognizes the contract but he doesn’t; he can’t turn to the player’s union for help, because that would be admitting he signed a valid contract. Let Boras stupidly try to take this to a real court of law, Alvarez isn’t going to want to foot the bill and will dump his ass faster than a concrete truck.

by kericr on Aug 27, 2008 4:54 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Purcey is going to be introduced to the Pain Gang tonight

wooooooooooooooooooooooooo

Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't matter, and those who matter don't mind.

by Sandy Kazmir on Aug 27, 2008 4:34 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Per ESPN Chat...

Dan (Miami, FL): Rays catcher of the future? Jaso or Navarro

 Jim Callis: Jaso

by td32 on Aug 27, 2008 4:40 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Purcey has a 7.47 tRA

my blog // calling BJ Upton lazy is lazy // past results do not guarantee future performance

by Sky Kalkman on Aug 27, 2008 4:48 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Pat just woke up from hibernation

"STP is me. He can do everything I can do." - R.J. Anderson

by P Brady on Aug 27, 2008 4:58 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I died a little inside reading that yesterday.

Seriously, you stood up for your girlfriends honor by defending the Rays? You’re about as smooth as 20 grit.

by kericr on Aug 27, 2008 5:04 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

The more suttle and straight-faced the sarcasm is, the harder it is for me to pick up.

Generally, if I think that someone could actually do something they’re claiming happened, I don’t pick it up as sarcasm. That’s not to say that I think you would do something like that, but being I don’t really know you, I can’t bring that into the equation. I could see someone doing what you said as not too far fetched. It’s a horribly misguided, hillarious, and sad concept, but it’s not beyond someone doing.

by kericr on Aug 27, 2008 5:16 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Not that part.

Rather the part where I say don’t talk trash about the Rays.

by R.J. Anderson on Aug 27, 2008 5:39 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Speaking hyopthetically, here’s how I interpreted it:

You saw someone groping on your girlfriend – Logical
You stood up and defended her – Logical
In taking offense to what the guy said, you said something very very dumb – Illogical and hillarious
Getting dumped afterwards – Logical if what you said above in defending her is legit

Therefore, I fell for it. Now if you had said that she banged your brains out afterwards, I would have picked up the sarcasm.

by kericr on Aug 27, 2008 5:42 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Then I should've started it off...

“Dear Penthouse”. See, I thought the part about defending the team was a dead giveaway. I know better now.

by R.J. Anderson on Aug 27, 2008 6:02 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

so you know how...

some times you read a word or phrase that is similar but not exactly the same as something you see all the time and you mis-read it? For about 0.2 seconds I got really excited that David Price was starting this game and somehow I had lived under a rock for the last few days.

by K-Rock on Aug 27, 2008 5:00 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I will be going soon, Just got some ticket money today

"STP is me. He can do everything I can do." - R.J. Anderson

by P Brady on Aug 27, 2008 6:05 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

+1

Are we allowed to plus one here, or am I going to be sued by Nick Denton?

Boom. Outta Here.

by WillisDaddy on Aug 27, 2008 6:27 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I meant soon as in not today

"STP is me. He can do everything I can do." - R.J. Anderson

by P Brady on Aug 27, 2008 6:29 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

wamura 2B
Upton CF
Pena 1B
Baldelli DH
Aybar 3B
Zobrist LF
Riggans C
Ruggiano RF
Bartlett SS

by Vin on Aug 27, 2008 6:33 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

That is an awful 4-9

Baldelli DH
Aybar 3B
Zobrist LF
Riggans C
Ruggiano RF
Bartlett SS

9 = 8

by walkoffwalk on Aug 27, 2008 6:37 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

...2 of those guys are switch hitters.

Zobrist has better numbers against righties.
Bartlett isn’t a platoon player.
Navi is hurt.
Floyd, Hinske, and Gross should never be in the line-up vs LHP.

What are you complaining about?

by Vin on Aug 27, 2008 6:44 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Rocco: 1.081 OPS vs LHP (small sample size, but still)
Aybar: .793 OPS
Zobrist: .732 OPS
Riggans: .732 OPS
Ruggiano: .921 OPS (at Durham)
Bartlett: .821 OPS

I still don’t see the problem. None of that is horrible.

by Vin on Aug 27, 2008 6:58 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Agreed with lack of name..

I wonder why Bartlett isn’t higher. Didn’t Maddon bat him higher the game he DH’d? He should probably be top 4 against lefties.

by tallyray on Aug 27, 2008 7:06 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

10 minutes till game time

Let’s get ready to rumble!!!! Cmon Garza

by Rays Rule on Aug 27, 2008 7:00 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

come on Garza

have one of your awesome games

by joeybw on Aug 27, 2008 7:14 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

ok good 1st

just need 8 more like that!

by joeybw on Aug 27, 2008 7:18 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

LOL at Jim Courier

He brought up baseball replay and said that we need it so Lou Pinella doesn’t throw the bases around.

by sofladude77 on Aug 27, 2008 7:19 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Magrane: "Forget the OBP"

The Rays have in the past, that’s one of the reasons they blew.

by R.J. Anderson on Aug 27, 2008 7:29 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Is it just me or

are our pitchers getting squeezed much more than usual over the last few game?

by PewterPirate55 on Aug 27, 2008 7:30 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

It's almost like we should use the available technology to end any possible bias.

But that’s too fucking insane. It would ruin the game really. I sure as hell don’t want talent deciding who wins and loses.

by R.J. Anderson on Aug 27, 2008 7:32 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Latest on Longoria?

I saw conflicting reports today, one said he will be back for the Sept 2nd Yankee series, the other said he is in too much pain to swing

by joeybw on Aug 27, 2008 7:31 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

This GDT lacks something funny and tRA.

Top Josh Paul Pornos- Big Navi Stroking, 2pitchers1cup, BJ to the Balls, Riggans Your Thingans

BELIEVE in 08!

by SRQman on Aug 27, 2008 7:32 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I dunno

I think pitching gives the overall upper hand. But not by much.

by Vin on Aug 27, 2008 7:37 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I actually disagree

Beckett is overrated (still good, just not some superstar), Dice-K is vastly overrated, then who else do they really have? Lester? Well he is comparable to Garza. We have a stronger 4-5 also.

I’d go

Beckett > Kazmir
Dice-K << Shields
Lester = Garza
Sonnanstine <<< whoever they decide to throw
Jackson << whoever they decide to throw

by matthan on Aug 27, 2008 7:48 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Dumbest Move of the Year ...

Trading Manny…

They would be better with Manny there. They should have traded Ortiz and kept Manny at DH. JD Drew being on the DL isnt helping them. Also if they had to play the Yankees every night they would finish with the best record in baseball too.

by PewterPirate55 on Aug 27, 2008 7:41 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Seriously?

Bay isn’t that far off offensively and way better defensively (although still a minus). They got better in that deal and gained financial flexibility.

by R.J. Anderson on Aug 27, 2008 7:43 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Their lineup is better

But I doubt their pitching is better.

by sofladude77 on Aug 27, 2008 7:38 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Their bullpen is better.

We have the better rotation and defense. They have the better pen and offense.

by R.J. Anderson on Aug 27, 2008 7:39 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Bullpen?? no way

Papelbon is their only reliable option

by sofladude77 on Aug 27, 2008 7:40 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

tRAs:

Delcarmen 2.93
Balfour 2.23

After that he blows everyone in our pen away.

by R.J. Anderson on Aug 27, 2008 7:42 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Well Clay Buchholz has talent too

But he can’t get anyone out. Masterson blows Delcarmen away right now

by sofladude77 on Aug 27, 2008 7:45 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

No he doesn't.

Masterson Ks less, walks more, and allows more homeruns while inducing the same # of grounders and more liners.

by R.J. Anderson on Aug 27, 2008 7:47 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Who's pitching better??

No comparison, Boston would have Masterson in the rotation if not for their stinky middle relief

by sofladude77 on Aug 27, 2008 7:48 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Delcarmen is pitching better.

I think I pretty much established that when I said:

Masterson Ks less, walks more, and allows more homeruns while inducing the same # of grounders and more liners.

Unless you think the better guy who is:
- less prone to strike someone out
- more prone to walk a batter
- more prone to give up a homerun
- more prone to give up a hit

by R.J. Anderson on Aug 27, 2008 7:50 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Masterson harder to hit

Allows .213 BA, Delcarmen .242 BA. WHIPs are pretty close to the same.

by sofladude77 on Aug 27, 2008 7:53 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

BAA is a poor stat to use to judge hittability.

It fluctuates based on things like defense. Delcarmen gives up less liners and therefore should have less hits fall for him. His BABIP is high for his 14 LD. Masterson’s is low for his LD. Those will regress.

Read the article I linked you to.

by R.J. Anderson on Aug 27, 2008 7:55 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Well

They play on the same team. They should have the same defense. Actually you can probably make the argument that Delcarmen would have better defense than Masterson due to Mastersons time as a starter (late inning defensive replacements). Although I get your point.

by matthan on Aug 27, 2008 7:56 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Same defense, yes.

But my point was on the metric itself more so than this specific case.

by R.J. Anderson on Aug 27, 2008 7:58 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Note that Masterson's ERA as reliever is

1.96, don’t count the starter stats. only 4 walks as a reliever. 18Ks in 18 IP. He turned A-ROD last nite into a DP victim with the bases loaded. Oh if you didn’t watch the game last nite Masterson got AROD out of the mess that Delcarmen made.

by sofladude77 on Aug 27, 2008 7:59 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I would take our bullpen over theirs

I think they have more talent. But as a whole unit our bullpen is more effective.

Take Papelbon v Percival. Sure Papelbon is FAR more talented at this stage than Percival, but the Red Sox get little edge there. The difference in real results(IE W/L in closing situations) between Percival and Papelbon is minimal at best.

by matthan on Aug 27, 2008 7:53 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

You and your tools!

Top Josh Paul Pornos- Big Navi Stroking, 2pitchers1cup, BJ to the Balls, Riggans Your Thingans

BELIEVE in 08!

by SRQman on Aug 27, 2008 7:42 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

No. The AFL is an extremely advanced league.

He’s get absolutely eaten alive there.

Tools Whore

Sign Bonds!

by Tyler on Aug 27, 2008 7:45 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

It's essentially AAA level quality, if not slightly higher

and in an extreme hitters environment.

Tools Whore

Sign Bonds!

by Tyler on Aug 27, 2008 7:47 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Is it really?

I’m not questioning you, but I didn’t know it was that high.

by R.J. Anderson on Aug 27, 2008 7:47 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Maybe above AAA is a slight exaggeration.

But it’s basically used as a MLB finishing school. A lot of guys getting close to the big leagues that need to get some more polish. Almost everyone is at least a marginal prospect. It’s a pretty high level.

Even if my assessment is a little high, Lobstein would be destroyed.

Tools Whore

Sign Bonds!

by Tyler on Aug 27, 2008 7:51 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

OMG

LOL

Top Josh Paul Pornos- Big Navi Stroking, 2pitchers1cup, BJ to the Balls, Riggans Your Thingans

BELIEVE in 08!

by SRQman on Aug 27, 2008 7:46 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I really do.

Tools Whore

Sign Bonds!

by Tyler on Aug 27, 2008 7:48 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

His K rates are still lower than last season.

Unless you meant this month/last month, which is entirely possible.

by R.J. Anderson on Aug 27, 2008 7:49 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

And?

Top Josh Paul Pornos- Big Navi Stroking, 2pitchers1cup, BJ to the Balls, Riggans Your Thingans

BELIEVE in 08!

by SRQman on Aug 27, 2008 7:50 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

People, including myself, were hopeful his power was legitimate.

Unfortunately it’s went away this season which may be mechanical or physical. He has however advanced in other aspects of his offensive game.

by R.J. Anderson on Aug 27, 2008 7:51 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Mechanics

I just think his whole stance is a little out of whack. It just takes him awhile to get started. Combine that with some shoulder issues and you get this.

by matthan on Aug 27, 2008 7:55 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I think he will figure it out also.

His bat speed is insane and hopefully they can fix whatever is wrong.

Top Josh Paul Pornos- Big Navi Stroking, 2pitchers1cup, BJ to the Balls, Riggans Your Thingans

BELIEVE in 08!

by SRQman on Aug 27, 2008 7:53 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Cy Purcey is only at 31 pitches

could be a good thing, despite him making us look like jackasses so far, he’s not that good, the bullpen is

by joeybw on Aug 27, 2008 7:47 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

um no

I want Purcey in the entire game…the guys sucks my anus

by matthan on Aug 27, 2008 7:50 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

LOLOLOLOL

ROFLONGORIA R.J. is so funny!

Top Josh Paul Pornos- Big Navi Stroking, 2pitchers1cup, BJ to the Balls, Riggans Your Thingans

BELIEVE in 08!

by SRQman on Aug 27, 2008 7:49 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

LOL.

Tools Whore

Sign Bonds!

by Tyler on Aug 27, 2008 7:48 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

LOL

Top Josh Paul Pornos- Big Navi Stroking, 2pitchers1cup, BJ to the Balls, Riggans Your Thingans

BELIEVE in 08!

by SRQman on Aug 27, 2008 7:48 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

We are facing arguably the worst pitcher we've seen all year

We should have 10 runs by now. THe guy sucks nuts. I can hit his fast ball.

by matthan on Aug 27, 2008 7:50 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Do it.

You won’t

Top Josh Paul Pornos- Big Navi Stroking, 2pitchers1cup, BJ to the Balls, Riggans Your Thingans

BELIEVE in 08!

by SRQman on Aug 27, 2008 7:51 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I'm sure I could hit it.

90 and pretty straight isn’t that tough. I wouldn’t hit it well, but at least I’d hit it.

by matthan on Aug 27, 2008 7:54 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

LOL

Tools Whore

Sign Bonds!

by Tyler on Aug 27, 2008 7:55 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

like

LOL funnny?
or just ROFL funny?
or ROFLMAOBBQ?

Top Josh Paul Pornos- Big Navi Stroking, 2pitchers1cup, BJ to the Balls, Riggans Your Thingans

BELIEVE in 08!

by SRQman on Aug 27, 2008 7:55 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs