8/28: TOR (68-64) at RAYS (80-51)
by Patrick L. Kennedy on Aug 28, 2008 5:00 PM EDT
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Toronto Blue Jays at Tampa Bay Rays, Aug 28, 2008 7:10 PM EDT
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Pitching Matchup:
| IP | tRA | + | K/9 | BB/9 | K/BB | HR/9 | OPS | WHIP | G/F | P/IP | ||
| TOR | RH J. Litsch |
128.0 | 4.89 | 97 | 4.64 | 1.69 | 2.75 | 1.20 | .753 | 1.29 | 1.55 | 15.55 |
| RAYS | RH E. Jackson |
149.0 | 5.53 | 86 | 5.32 | 4.05 | 1.31 | 1.15 | .766 | 1.44 | 0.99 | 16.50 |
GO RAYS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Iwamura, 2b
Upton, cf
Pena, 1b
Floyd, dh
Aybar, 3b
Hinske, lf
Gross, rf
Riggans, c
Bartlett,ss
by Vin on Aug 28, 2008 5:03 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
You and your new-age stats, statboy.
by Patrick L. Kennedy on Aug 28, 2008 5:10 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
lots of good stuff in those pitching lines
raise your hand if you wouldn’t trade Edwin Jackson for Jesse Litsch?
by Sky Kalkman on Aug 28, 2008 5:34 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
He didn't use saves! YAY
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by SRQman on Aug 28, 2008 5:15 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Saves and Blown saves was a stat yesterday
for the starting pitchers.
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by SRQman on Aug 28, 2008 5:18 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Mmm
I don’t usually use those statlines anyways. I prefer to create my own, but I was in a time crunch yesterday so I copped out.
by Patrick L. Kennedy on Aug 28, 2008 5:19 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
He DIDN'T use ERA! Overwhelming Indifference!
by kericr on Aug 28, 2008 5:27 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I like this post.
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by Tyler on Aug 28, 2008 5:29 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
What should we bitch about today?
The line-up? The attendance? Edwin Jackson? Lack of hustle?
by Vin on Aug 28, 2008 5:05 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Yes!
Tubby needs to suck it up and play. If he can’t play through cramping hammys, he’s pretty much useless.
by Vin on Aug 28, 2008 5:07 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Fucking Navarro.
Be a team player. Goddammit I hate pieces of crap like that. You’re hurt and won’t play? Shit, what type of person doesn’t try to man through it?! YOU CAN’T PLAY 100% WHILE HURT? WHAT A QUITTER.
/Heater
by R.J. Anderson on Aug 28, 2008 5:08 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Look at Merriman!
And that with 2 torn ligaments in his KNEE! Navi is a puss.
by Vin on Aug 28, 2008 5:11 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
anyone NOT think that Merriman will be rather ineffective and go down for the year between weeks 4 and 8?
by Sky Kalkman on Aug 28, 2008 5:35 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sooner
Someone’s gonna chop-block his ass and his season will be over. I don’t think he makes it past the 3rd quarter of game one.
by kericr on Aug 28, 2008 5:38 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
This
I think he’s being an idiot and I’m pretty damned surprised the Chargers organization would let him do this.
by Vin on Aug 28, 2008 5:41 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
it makes no sense
all of the doctors he visited told him to have surgery, a couple said it could be career threatening, and he could lose millions by just shifting his weight the wrong way. Could there be something we’re missing?
by Roc on Aug 28, 2008 5:44 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
My guess is if Riggans got the PA of navi, je lapped
him as far as OPS goes
i know, it’s not based on that, still navi is very unproductive
by sternfan1 on Aug 28, 2008 5:12 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
...
How do you “guess” that something happened and then go on to say that you know its not the case only a sentence later?
by Vin on Aug 28, 2008 5:16 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm basing it on how
anyuone who can hit 290, can only have 30 something RVIs
by sternfan1 on Aug 28, 2008 5:18 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Batting average + RBIs.
Why do you hate me
by R.J. Anderson on Aug 28, 2008 5:19 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
what are you talking about?
i am not impressed with navi
rather have Kelly Shoppach
by sternfan1 on Aug 28, 2008 5:21 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
You're using two stats that either say nothing at all, or very little.
by R.J. Anderson on Aug 28, 2008 5:32 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Better than one stat.
He’s getting better….I think?
by kericr on Aug 28, 2008 5:38 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Barack Obama's speech conflicting with the game
by Patrick L. Kennedy on Aug 28, 2008 5:10 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I glady will miss nobama's speech tonight
by plasticman on Aug 28, 2008 5:13 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
You like Obama? I thought you'd be a bigger fan of Medvedev being a communist and all.
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by Tyler on Aug 28, 2008 5:19 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I thought Wookies were hardcore conservatives.
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by SRQman on Aug 28, 2008 5:20 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Medvedev's a tool
Vladdy Putin 4 ever
by Patrick L. Kennedy on Aug 28, 2008 5:20 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
It's called the '80s. Ford was president, Nixon was in the White House, and FDR was running this country into the ground.
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by Tyler on Aug 28, 2008 5:21 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
They are both horrible leaders.
In the vein of Chavez.
by plasticman on Aug 28, 2008 5:25 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Umm...Sarcasm? Well there you go.
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by Tyler on Aug 28, 2008 5:30 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Castro's a role model too.
Either one, take your pick. I don’t care which.
by kericr on Aug 28, 2008 5:30 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
John Mccain is too busy eating applesauce and warm milk to care.
I won’t vote, but jeez, Mccain Vs. Obama is like Shit Vs. One of those duck on a string toys.
"STP is me. He can do everything I can do." - R.J. Anderson
by P Brady on Aug 28, 2008 5:32 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
You can't vote...
am I right?
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by SRQman on Aug 28, 2008 5:38 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I wouldn't vote anyway
"STP is me. He can do everything I can do." - R.J. Anderson
by P Brady on Aug 28, 2008 5:39 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
You misspelled Obama
"STP is me. He can do everything I can do." - R.J. Anderson
by P Brady on Aug 28, 2008 5:16 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
....You changed the spelling of his name?
"STP is me. He can do everything I can do." - R.J. Anderson
by P Brady on Aug 28, 2008 5:27 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Anyone notice the more stupid the website, the shittier it looks?
"STP is me. He can do everything I can do." - R.J. Anderson
by P Brady on Aug 28, 2008 5:36 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
As a web developer, I can tell you
Yes. Yes I do.
by kericr on Aug 28, 2008 5:36 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sort of the problem.
Flashy speaker, empty message. The more substantive sources often are not as pretty.
Sort of like Obama and McCain!
by plasticman on Aug 28, 2008 5:43 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
You obviously didn't read my comment.
“The Stupider the website”
"STP is me. He can do everything I can do." - R.J. Anderson
by P Brady on Aug 28, 2008 5:45 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
You think this looks 'pretty'?
This site is visually crude. A high-school preppie with an HTML book and MS Paint can put something better looking together. The appearance matches the message, absolute fucking garbage.
by kericr on Aug 28, 2008 5:47 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well I'll be glad to tell the SBN people what you think
jk
by Patrick L. Kennedy on Aug 28, 2008 5:48 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
OMG PATRICK IS HERE!
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by SRQman on Aug 28, 2008 5:48 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
OMG
You’ve already replied to me at least once in this thread yet you choose to state the obvious here, well after that first comment!
by Patrick L. Kennedy on Aug 28, 2008 5:50 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
OMG PATRICK IS SNARKY
"STP is me. He can do everything I can do." - R.J. Anderson
by P Brady on Aug 28, 2008 5:51 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
OMG PATRICK IS HAIRY!
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by SRQman on Aug 28, 2008 5:51 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
No, you're mixing it up.
SBN looks fine, the parent link is what’s crap.
by kericr on Aug 28, 2008 5:51 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
No, I understood fully what you meant
I was just joking.
by Patrick L. Kennedy on Aug 28, 2008 5:53 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I did something better at 3 AM using xhtml and hand drawn stuff.
"STP is me. He can do everything I can do." - R.J. Anderson
by P Brady on Aug 28, 2008 5:48 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I did it for Computer Apps class.
Don’t have it anymore.
"STP is me. He can do everything I can do." - R.J. Anderson
by P Brady on Aug 28, 2008 5:50 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
The appearance matches the message, absolute fucking garbage.
Yikes.
by Vin on Aug 28, 2008 5:48 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
any site that sells bumper stickers for 20$
and also specifies that they are for bumpers is garbage
by Roc on Aug 28, 2008 5:51 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
This will affect me too
but since I have mlb.tv now, I won’t have to choose.
by Vin on Aug 28, 2008 5:13 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I hear what you're saying.
But I just can’t watch archived games on MLB.tv. If the game has already been played and I know the score, I just can’t bring myself to watch it. That’s part of the reason I don’t watch the Olympics too much. I just hate tape delay.
Most likely I’ll use picture and picture with Obama’s audio on the small screen.
by Patrick L. Kennedy on Aug 28, 2008 5:17 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
You could watch the Olympics live on the East Coast and internet.
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by SRQman on Aug 28, 2008 5:18 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Most events were not broadcast live during normal hours
And I’m not going to go on the internet to watch Synchronized Swimming.
by Patrick L. Kennedy on Aug 28, 2008 5:22 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Handball FTW
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by SRQman on Aug 28, 2008 5:22 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Blame it on B.J. Upton
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by SRQman on Aug 28, 2008 5:17 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I saw the post and the game
big fucking deal
by sternfan1 on Aug 28, 2008 5:15 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
You're gonna get banned before the game even starts...
by Vin on Aug 28, 2008 5:17 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wishful thinking.
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by Tyler on Aug 28, 2008 5:30 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Just so you know.
Sternberg answered your question.
by R.J. Anderson on Aug 28, 2008 5:31 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
...He linked to it
"STP is me. He can do everything I can do." - R.J. Anderson
by P Brady on Aug 28, 2008 5:40 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Click the Link
Look for “Stu s”
Get your dose of win.
by kericr on Aug 28, 2008 5:41 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
that is so cool
Indians forum posters would kill for a comment from the ‘boss’
by sternfan1 on Aug 28, 2008 5:44 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Follow the link.
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by Tyler on Aug 28, 2008 5:41 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
A more legitimate question.
I wonder what he means when he says “different market, drawing 2 mil + 10 years before that”? The Braves were awful for 6 consecutive years, that was the result of their drop. Now the Rays have 14 home games left and are 5k behind that average to this point. It’s mathematically impossible at this point for the Rays to reach a 26k seasonal average. I’d be more interested in knowing if he’s going to be satisfied or dissapointed with the final numbers if they stay the same or creep up slightly, and what he expects to see for next year.
I’m honestly concerned that if we’re looking at 21-22k long term, that this team won’t stay here for long.
by kericr on Aug 28, 2008 5:45 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don’t understand the response. Yes, we’re comparing different markets and times. Yes, the Braves did have over 2 mil. the year after they won the NL West pennant in 1982 and yes the Expos drew very well in the early 1980’s after being playoff contenders beginning in 1979 and Olympic Stadium was still state of the art.
So he’s not happy with attendance? He thinks it will be better next year?
Purveyor of inane douchebaggery and general snarkiness
by RATW on Aug 28, 2008 6:04 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Nevermind, I think I understand now. Not going to read anything into it.
Purveyor of inane douchebaggery and general snarkiness
by RATW on Aug 28, 2008 6:43 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Oh noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!
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by SRQman on Aug 28, 2008 5:43 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
whatever PTI says is golden
I think ill just stop being a rays fan now.
by Roc on Aug 28, 2008 5:47 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Is there a TRA equivalent for hitters?
9 = 8
by walkoffwalk on Aug 28, 2008 5:47 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
no, wOBA is different, it's like OPS, but better
you can have wOBA for pitchers.
tRA for hitters wouldn’t mean as much, because the assumption that htiters don’t control many things other than K/9, BB/9, and GB/LD?FB% doesn’t hold. Hitters DO show a wide range of BABIPs, HR/FB, etc.
by Sky Kalkman on Aug 28, 2008 5:56 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
wOBA isn't tRA for hitters, no.
But it’s probably the most advanced offensive stat out there, no?
by R.J. Anderson on Aug 28, 2008 5:56 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
yeah, sure.
it’s linear weights, but in a rate form, which is nice.
for those unfamiliar, think of wOBA as OPS but with all hitting events weighted properly and on the OBP scale.
by Sky Kalkman on Aug 28, 2008 5:58 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
wOBA for pitchers isn't as useful as for hitters
for the same reasons that OPS-against isn’t a great stat for pitchers — you’re holding them accountable for all hits, when fielding, luck, ballpark, etc. make an impact.
by Sky Kalkman on Aug 28, 2008 5:57 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
yes, actually -- PrOPS (over at hardball times)
invented by a different guy. and while it has its uses, it suffers from the problems i listed above (some things that you don’t credit/blame to pitchers you SHOULD credit/blame to hitters.)
by Sky Kalkman on Aug 28, 2008 7:46 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Stu needs to stick around for a GTD.
I can’t imagine how hard that would own.
by Vin on Aug 28, 2008 5:51 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
"Fucking shit! get a fucking hit!"
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by SRQman on Aug 28, 2008 5:52 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
"YOU FUCKING SUCK LONGO WHAT THE HELL HAVE YOU DONE BESIDES GET INJURED"
"STP is me. He can do everything I can do." - R.J. Anderson
by P Brady on Aug 28, 2008 5:53 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
"What an attention whore"
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by SRQman on Aug 28, 2008 5:54 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
"WTF is Raymond?"
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by SRQman on Aug 28, 2008 5:55 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
So you're all saying that Sternfan is actually SternBERG?
Well, I guess it all makes sense now.
by kericr on Aug 28, 2008 5:56 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
If that were true
greatest sense of humor ever.
by Vin on Aug 28, 2008 5:57 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
RJ how do we know that's really Stu, and not someone who just created the username Stu_S?
I believe you, but was just wondering
9 = 8
by walkoffwalk on Aug 28, 2008 5:54 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Stu emailed me alerting me that he commented.
by R.J. Anderson on Aug 28, 2008 5:55 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I was thinking how cool it would be for us to all volunteer names for the new Charlotte Park affiliate.
And then have him acknowledge them and ridicule us for failing so hard.
by kericr on Aug 28, 2008 5:57 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
do we know that the email was actually his?
by Sky Kalkman on Aug 28, 2008 5:59 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yes, I've exchanged emails with him for the past year+ on that account.
by R.J. Anderson on Aug 28, 2008 6:00 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Can you give it to us so we can ask him for proof?
I promise I won’t try to sell him viagra or tell him that I am Nigerian Royalty and offer him a undeiably lucrative business proposal.
by kericr on Aug 28, 2008 6:00 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Computer problems, moving, ect.
by R.J. Anderson on Aug 28, 2008 6:05 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ah...
I thought his head exploded from dealing with newbs.
by Vin on Aug 28, 2008 6:06 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
R.J.'s is about to.
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by SRQman on Aug 28, 2008 6:06 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yes. This site has interviewed him before.
http://www.draysbay.com/2007/12/18/151452/20
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by Tyler on Aug 28, 2008 6:00 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well, I thought I failed epically. Turns out, PLK fails because the Sternberg interview on the sidebar goes to the Hunsicker interview.
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by Tyler on Aug 28, 2008 6:05 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
PLK ALWAYS FAILS!
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by SRQman on Aug 28, 2008 6:06 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Mainly with the ladies.
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by SRQman on Aug 28, 2008 6:08 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
So, Beckett's been scratched from his start
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by P Brady on Aug 28, 2008 6:07 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
and going to see our own dr james andrews
9 = 8
by walkoffwalk on Aug 28, 2008 6:07 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
He works for us. But he works for most teams. He's actually listed as one of our teams employees.
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by Tyler on Aug 28, 2008 6:10 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
What my cousin isn't commenting!
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by SRQman on Aug 28, 2008 6:11 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
He's actually listed as one of our teams employees.
I didn’t know that.
by Vin on Aug 28, 2008 6:11 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Can't pitch if you can't feel your hand. And Dr. JA is theirs too. He works for a lot of teams.
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by Tyler on Aug 28, 2008 6:08 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
At least he knows the stranger.
by R.J. Anderson on Aug 28, 2008 6:11 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
LAAAAAAAAAAWLZ
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by SRQman on Aug 28, 2008 6:11 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
WHHHHHHHHHHHATT?
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by Tyler on Aug 28, 2008 6:15 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Let's just get these out of the way.
1. Shame on you all for not being at the game. You’re horrible fans. HOW DARE YOU?!
2. Ruggiano is the outfielder of the future. Waive CC. Now.
3. BOOOOOOO Upton.
4. Price needs to be starting. 6 pitcher rotation FTW
5. Seriously, why aren’t you guys at the game? Bad fans!! Bad!
Now, let’s make Litsch look bad in front of his friends and families. Last time he started in the Trop we shelled him. Go do it again.
by ReasonableDoubt on Aug 28, 2008 6:47 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I just saw A. C. Slater on ESPN
Nevermind it was Carlos. He’s goin deep all night.
Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't matter, and those who matter don't mind.
by Sandy Kazmir on Aug 28, 2008 7:10 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
GLOVESKE
"STP is me. He can do everything I can do." - R.J. Anderson
by P Brady on Aug 28, 2008 7:11 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
clearly it was a knob job
Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't matter, and those who matter don't mind.
by Sandy Kazmir on Aug 28, 2008 7:14 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I have to say
when riggins got hit, it did not sound like “chest”
by plasticman on Aug 28, 2008 7:15 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I wouldn't imagine thats what chest is a supposed to sound like
by kurby on Aug 28, 2008 7:17 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
When you get hit with a ball it does...
Sounds similar to getting thumped in the right spot on the back.
by td32 on Aug 28, 2008 7:19 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
You know its all a conspiracy to get the Sux in the playoffs right?
My cousins, girlfriends uncle heard it from a guy.
Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't matter, and those who matter don't mind.
by Sandy Kazmir on Aug 28, 2008 7:17 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
reply button is a failure
Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't matter, and those who matter don't mind.
by Sandy Kazmir on Aug 28, 2008 7:18 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
It sounded gross like if you have ever been near somebody that catches a ball in the face.
Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't matter, and those who matter don't mind.
by Sandy Kazmir on Aug 28, 2008 7:17 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
That sounds more like a loud crack, then a sharp breath.
If I remember correctly.
If you want results, press the red button. The rest are useless.
by Katie on Aug 28, 2008 7:20 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I was coaching first in a softball game and one of my teammates got one right in the temple
thats kind of what Riggs sounded like, but his was more sickening.
Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't matter, and those who matter don't mind.
by Sandy Kazmir on Aug 28, 2008 7:21 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ah. Not a good sound.
I took a liner to the nose playing 3rd. I was more concerned with the blood than the sound at the time.
If you want results, press the red button. The rest are useless.
by Katie on Aug 28, 2008 7:22 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
There's no bleeding in baseball
Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't matter, and those who matter don't mind.
by Sandy Kazmir on Aug 28, 2008 7:25 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Its a good thing I played softball then!
If you want results, press the red button. The rest are useless.
by Katie on Aug 28, 2008 7:26 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Absolutely
and thats a true hot corner only being like 70 feet from the plate
Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't matter, and those who matter don't mind.
by Sandy Kazmir on Aug 28, 2008 7:30 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
If I had a choice
I would probably pick the ball to the chest.
by kurby on Aug 28, 2008 7:22 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
We need some real discussions here
by putupyourDUKES on Aug 28, 2008 7:17 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I heard John McCains 2nd daughter was one of the girls
Elijiah knocked up. Go figure.
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by Sandy Kazmir on Aug 28, 2008 7:19 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
AKI KNOCK
"STP is me. He can do everything I can do." - R.J. Anderson
by P Brady on Aug 28, 2008 7:20 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Ive never seen Aki hit so far
awesome
by plasticman on Aug 28, 2008 7:20 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
He is an above average second baseman with a great attitude and work ethic
Aki = awesome
Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't matter, and those who matter don't mind.
by Sandy Kazmir on Aug 28, 2008 7:21 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I like him!
I have just never seen him hit far
love his ethic and skill
by plasticman on Aug 28, 2008 7:22 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
what i think is so funny
is that he always gets in the middle of the brawls
not because he did anything
but because the other team seems to get revenge on the rays through him
by plasticman on Aug 28, 2008 7:23 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
How many times have we led off a game with back to back hits
I would say 3
Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't matter, and those who matter don't mind.
by Sandy Kazmir on Aug 28, 2008 7:22 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
1st and 3rd for Pena
lets not fuck this up
by joeybw on Aug 28, 2008 7:21 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I can't imagine Carlos not crushing one tonight.
by R.J. Anderson on Aug 28, 2008 7:22 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
so is replay in effect for the cubs/phillies game?
its on wgn at 8
by dropkicknu on Aug 28, 2008 7:24 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Its the first game that will feature it
by kurby on Aug 28, 2008 7:25 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
nice
i hope there’s a play that needs it, i’m interested to see how it goes down
by dropkicknu on Aug 28, 2008 7:26 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
The occurences of these "boundary" calls seem to be pretty scarce.
It would definitely be nice to get some practice in before the playoffs.
by kurby on Aug 28, 2008 7:27 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I've seen maybe 6-10 questionable HR calls in my life. Over 20 years of watching games
and highlights. I think a bigger deal is being made of it than it deserves. Now if anyone wants to list the pros and cons of Homefield advantage in the World Series going to whichever team of guys that could care less can win a meaningless game I’m ready for some debating.
Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't matter, and those who matter don't mind.
by Sandy Kazmir on Aug 28, 2008 7:29 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well that's because I'm not at work anymore.
FYI: Original Source: http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/article85048.ece
by kericr on Aug 28, 2008 7:29 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
David Price has a good chance to pick up his first AAA victory.
Durham up 5-0 in the top 1st still 0 outs.
by Dbullsfan on Aug 28, 2008 7:30 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Good Edwin will have no chance if the Rays keep fielding like the Devil Rays.
Or the Mariners.
by kericr on Aug 28, 2008 7:35 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Edwin
dominating as soon as he can get in the stretch
Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't matter, and those who matter don't mind.
by Sandy Kazmir on Aug 28, 2008 7:37 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Edwin could care less about errors
good pitching inning
by joeybw on Aug 28, 2008 7:38 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Hahaha
Didn’t take long for Dwayne Statts to say the P word.
by sofladude77 on Aug 28, 2008 7:39 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I won't say that Edwin is a "good" major league starter
but I will say that he is certainly improved. I don’t believe that it is all luck that his numbers are better. Some luck? Probably. But he just looks like he has better command out there. Maybe he can improve again next year (whoever he may be pitching for).
by stpetelawyer on Aug 28, 2008 7:40 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
His tRA is awful
"STP is me. He can do everything I can do." - R.J. Anderson
by P Brady on Aug 28, 2008 7:41 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Would it be a stretch to say
He seems to have improved his control by reducing his velocity? I seem to remember him regularly touching 97-98MPH on his fastball. Now it seems like he’s around 93-94 and only occasionally run it up when he feels he really needs to try to blow it by?
If so, I don’t see that as an improvement in skill as much as an improvement in approach.
by kericr on Aug 28, 2008 7:43 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Just checking over his numbers
His FB is only sitting a tick below last year’s average (94.1 v. 93.8) and his strike percentage is barely better (60% last year v. 61% this year).
by R.J. Anderson on Aug 28, 2008 7:45 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
So probably not.
His strikeout rate go down?
by kericr on Aug 28, 2008 7:48 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
K9 is 5.32, down from 7.16
BB9 is 4.05 down from 4.92
by R.J. Anderson on Aug 28, 2008 7:49 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
GB/FB ratio is down from last year too.
I’m not sure I see where the improvement lies, it just looks like batters are being more agressive and it’s not paying off for them.
by kericr on Aug 28, 2008 7:52 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Seems like BABIP regression (from last year, mind you) and that's basically it.
I’m not bullshitting when I say he really hasn’t shown much improvement.
by R.J. Anderson on Aug 28, 2008 7:53 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
He seems like a good guy.
As a fan I cheer for him, as an analyst I just don’t want him on my team.
by R.J. Anderson on Aug 28, 2008 7:42 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I would like to edit the end of my post to
(wherever he may be pitching)
by stpetelawyer on Aug 28, 2008 7:42 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
He's a good 4th or 5th in the rotation.
Better than most teams have.
by sofladude77 on Aug 28, 2008 7:43 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
but see, based on his skills, he's a bad 4th, good 5th
by Sky Kalkman on Aug 28, 2008 7:44 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
He's better
than the 4th and 5th on the Yankees.
by sofladude77 on Aug 28, 2008 7:45 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
With the Yanks probably higher.
He did pitch decent with the Rangers earlier in the season.
by sofladude77 on Aug 28, 2008 7:48 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Actually you're right.
I looked at the bottom row, 6.3 with NYY, 4.3 with TEX.
http://www.statcorner.com/pitcherSP.php?id=132260&team=NYA&year=2008&leag=MLB
by R.J. Anderson on Aug 28, 2008 7:48 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
i suppose there is nothing wrong with having a "good 5th" as your 5th pitcher then, right?
by stpetelawyer on Aug 28, 2008 7:47 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Nope.
But when it comes down to who Price replaces…
by R.J. Anderson on Aug 28, 2008 7:48 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Davis is when Sonny moves to the pen
"STP is me. He can do everything I can do." - R.J. Anderson
by P Brady on Aug 28, 2008 7:50 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
i love Sonny
and would rather the Rays trade Kazmir than see Sonny moved to the pen. at that point, it’s just a waste of resources.
by Sky Kalkman on Aug 28, 2008 7:51 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Trading Kazmir means trading a piece of my soul.
"STP is me. He can do everything I can do." - R.J. Anderson
by P Brady on Aug 28, 2008 7:52 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
i apologize
pretend i typed “trade Davis/Shields/anyone but Kazmir”
by Sky Kalkman on Aug 28, 2008 7:55 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
no, unless you have better options
by Sky Kalkman on Aug 28, 2008 7:49 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Dont sleep on Mitch Talbot
mark it down, he will compete and possibly win the 5 spot next spring
by Dbullsfan on Aug 28, 2008 7:51 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Let's not go crazy.
"STP is me. He can do everything I can do." - R.J. Anderson
by P Brady on Aug 28, 2008 7:52 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
sir sidney, yes, although it's close
Rasner has a much better tRA this year
by Sky Kalkman on Aug 28, 2008 7:48 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
the difference between 2007 and 2008 ERA isn't all luck, only some -- the rest was the removal of bad luck
but yes, there’s a lot of grey area involved
by Sky Kalkman on Aug 28, 2008 7:43 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
like good relief pitching that
can stop rallys and much better defense
by sofladude77 on Aug 28, 2008 7:50 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
yup -- so much more fun this year, no?
by Sky Kalkman on Aug 28, 2008 7:51 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
hell yeah
Web gems every nite and big strikeouts from Balfour when needed
by sofladude77 on Aug 28, 2008 7:53 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Difference between 2007 and 2008
= Shawn Camp.
by Craig T on Aug 28, 2008 7:52 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Shawn Camp is a good reliever when he has a good defense behind him.
by R.J. Anderson on Aug 28, 2008 7:53 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
LOL
Not when he had a WHIP over 2.0. That’s on him.
Of course he wasn’t the only reason for the difference from last year, but he wrecked many an 8th inning.
by Craig T on Aug 28, 2008 7:56 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Camp is a GB pitcher who relies heavily on his defense.
This is why his WHIP is so high, and how analyzing his WHIP in this circumstance is largely worthless.
by kericr on Aug 28, 2008 7:57 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well....
….he was walking guys and giving up a boatload of hits. How is that on the defense? What does it matter if he was a groundball pitcher? If you’re saying his defense let him down, plenty of runs would’ve been unearned. Last year his ERA was over 7. In short, he sucked.
by Craig T on Aug 28, 2008 8:00 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
giving up a boatload of hits. How is that on the defense?
Groundballs + bad infield defense = more grounders getting through holes for hits.
by R.J. Anderson on Aug 28, 2008 8:01 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
fielding is more than not making errors
you can get a bad jump
you can be slow
you can take a bad route
you can position yourself poorly
all of these things will result in not getting to as many batted balls as the typical fielder. none are counted as errors.
by Sky Kalkman on Aug 28, 2008 8:03 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
That's fine
except how many of those hits were little dunky seeing eye singles that would’ve been scooped up by this year’s defense? Some? Fine. He still got hit hard. I don’t care if he’s a GBP and that’s why he walks alot of guys. You can’t afford to be walking guys in the 8th and 9th innings. He had the highest WHIP on the team out of the late inning guys. If you want to make a smoke and mirrors argument using BPIP or look at his tRA…. k, I’ll take your word for it.
by Craig T on Aug 28, 2008 8:10 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Same LD% this year compared to last and about .100 points off of his BABIP.
So I would say more than a few hits.
by R.J. Anderson on Aug 28, 2008 8:12 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Good argument! I agree looki8ng at bettet statistics is more of a smoke and mirrors argument.
"STP is me. He can do everything I can do." - R.J. Anderson
by P Brady on Aug 28, 2008 8:12 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
His tRA is 3.3 this year.
WHIP is not a good metric to use either, it counts homeruns and singles as the same.
by R.J. Anderson on Aug 28, 2008 7:57 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I hate that argument
OBP counts homers and singles the same too.
by kericr on Aug 28, 2008 7:58 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
My point is...
WHIP is discarded as nearly worthless because of this flaw, yet OBP is counted as having some value despite that.
by kericr on Aug 28, 2008 8:01 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Because OBP has some value.
"STP is me. He can do everything I can do." - R.J. Anderson
by P Brady on Aug 28, 2008 8:01 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
During the offseason I'm going to brush up on my statistics and determine once and for all if WHIP is worth anything.
by kericr on Aug 28, 2008 8:02 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Before tRA became public I would've told you to use BPIP instead.
by R.J. Anderson on Aug 28, 2008 8:03 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well...you can't ghostride the BPIP.
I got nuthin.
by kericr on Aug 28, 2008 8:04 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, or on Stat Corner
"STP is me. He can do everything I can do." - R.J. Anderson
by P Brady on Aug 28, 2008 8:06 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
This is making my eyes bleed.
It’ll take me at least a week to get a real good grasp on this.
by kericr on Aug 28, 2008 8:11 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
In the end it comes to down to runs and outs.
Just not in the commonly presented format.
by R.J. Anderson on Aug 28, 2008 8:13 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I see that
I want to understand how it’s derived and why it works before I put faith in it. This is why people think one is obnoxious when they present ERA (a stat everyone understands) and are countered with tRA (something vastly more complex).
by kericr on Aug 28, 2008 8:16 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
it'll be an interesting read.....
once I eventually wrap my mind around it.
by Craig T on Aug 28, 2008 8:20 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
WHIP is a combination of events solely based on the pitcher.
The batter has some control over his OBP while the pitcher can only control his walks.
by R.J. Anderson on Aug 28, 2008 8:02 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
and what's shawn camp's difference between 2007 and 2008 other than dropping his ERA from 7.20 to 4.03?
Shawn Camp is better than Troy Percival.
by Sky Kalkman on Aug 28, 2008 7:57 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well I see
That Litsch’s scoreless streak ended fast.
by sofladude77 on Aug 28, 2008 7:42 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Did the guys at LL invent tRA?
9 = 8
by walkoffwalk on Aug 28, 2008 7:43 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
scoreless 1st for Price
come on you scrub, get some innings in even though you have no future!
by joeybw on Aug 28, 2008 7:45 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Ok Matsusaka
Got another jam to get out of here
by sofladude77 on Aug 28, 2008 7:54 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Okay, people have to stop replying to old posts and start some new ones
I’m getting lost in these conversations
by stpetelawyer on Aug 28, 2008 7:55 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Out by a mile and a half
Surprised the umps didn’t try to call interferance by Aki.
by kericr on Aug 28, 2008 7:55 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
damn i am in love with Bartys range
but i am not in love with the Jays speed there!
by joeybw on Aug 28, 2008 7:56 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
not in love with jackson's pitch count...
by stpetelawyer on Aug 28, 2008 7:59 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I wish
the Rays didn’t have Jackson and Kazmir back to back
by sofladude77 on Aug 28, 2008 8:00 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
excellent point
a bit rough on the pen
by stpetelawyer on Aug 28, 2008 8:01 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
close ones = against the Rays
at least the last week or so
by joeybw on Aug 28, 2008 7:59 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
51 pitches for Edwin
Typical outing, he will probably go 6
by sofladude77 on Aug 28, 2008 7:59 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Aybar on the catch
Lights at the Trop must be twilight-style
by sofladude77 on Aug 28, 2008 8:02 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Which raises a question.
For the next five years: A-Rod or Evan?
by R.J. Anderson on Aug 28, 2008 8:08 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
CLIFFORD
"STP is me. He can do everything I can do." - R.J. Anderson
by P Brady on Aug 28, 2008 8:07 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
strike up the replay cliffy crushed that
Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't matter, and those who matter don't mind.
by Sandy Kazmir on Aug 28, 2008 8:08 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Attendance looks better tonight, I think.
by kericr on Aug 28, 2008 8:08 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I'd like to prefer to think it's mass-media's public outrage and overreacting actually creating a positive outcome for once.
by kericr on Aug 28, 2008 8:17 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Kazmir called the fanbase out on Rome.
by R.J. Anderson on Aug 28, 2008 8:18 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
He said it was so quiet you could hear crickets
in the outfield
by Craig T on Aug 28, 2008 8:19 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
"If we had a good fanbase that cared we'd have that 10th man every night."
by R.J. Anderson on Aug 28, 2008 8:19 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wow, that's pretty harsh.
Or as Rome would call it, “Epic”.
OH AND HE GOES TO EVERY GAME SO HE GETS THE RIGHT TO CRITICIZE LOLOLOLERSKATES.
by kericr on Aug 28, 2008 8:20 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I was expecting that sooner.
“Did he lay ‘smack’?”
No, he ’smoked ’em out though."
by kericr on Aug 28, 2008 8:22 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Your mom already said she'd go to the prom with me.
I hope I get lucky.
by kericr on Aug 28, 2008 8:24 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
This is Scott Kazmir
and I don’t smoke.
by Craig T on Aug 28, 2008 8:23 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
yeah
Only way I can see him lose one vs the Jays this year
by sofladude77 on Aug 28, 2008 8:20 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
the game Garza lost
http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/boxscore?gameId=280507114
bullpen had a bad game in that one too. Garza was good.
by sofladude77 on Aug 28, 2008 8:22 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
that catch was so damn lazy
Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't matter, and those who matter don't mind.
by Sandy Kazmir on Aug 28, 2008 8:21 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
He was too lazy to dive
So he ran all out instead.
by kericr on Aug 28, 2008 8:21 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Upton is better than you or I.
Tools Whore
Sign Bonds!
by Tyler on Aug 28, 2008 8:21 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Lets get Victor Zabrano and Brazelton back
brings back the memories
by sofladude77 on Aug 28, 2008 8:23 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Remember when Brazelton started off scorching in spring training for the Padres
And everybody thought “OMG why did you trade him worst managemant EVAR!”
Good times.
by kericr on Aug 28, 2008 8:25 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
if we are lucky
the Yankees will lose another pitcher and Zambrano makes a start
by sofladude77 on Aug 28, 2008 8:26 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I still have a soft spot for little-Z
Two years away from the game can do a lot to you. Maybe he’ll be capable.
by kericr on Aug 28, 2008 8:27 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well he gave us Kazmir
Mets fans still never got over that one
by sofladude77 on Aug 28, 2008 8:32 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
My best friend's a big Mets fan
I know this quite well.
by kericr on Aug 28, 2008 8:34 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Nobody shows those plays
when they’re bashing BJ for playing a shallow center
by mittens on Aug 28, 2008 8:22 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I believe it was Mr. Peterson who said Kotsay would show Upton what a real centerfielder was.
by R.J. Anderson on Aug 28, 2008 8:23 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
You have to stop listening to these fools
Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't matter, and those who matter don't mind.
by Sandy Kazmir on Aug 28, 2008 8:24 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't listen to them.
People send me their quotes. Shit, if they hired me as an analytical consultant they would sound smart on air.
by R.J. Anderson on Aug 28, 2008 8:25 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah but it would be all
nerd talk, numbers, some common sense, those guys would be in trouble if they couldn’t just say that guy sucks, he doesn’t hustle, etc
Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't matter, and those who matter don't mind.
by Sandy Kazmir on Aug 28, 2008 8:30 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
See, but they wouldn't have to use the numbers.
They would just have to say what the numbers said, a la “B.J. Upton is a good defender.”
by R.J. Anderson on Aug 28, 2008 8:31 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
If he wasn't so lazy
My fave ignorant thing is when people think him playing shallow is a bad thing. It is quite the complement that Mad Dog has him positioned there 95% of the time he is on the field.
Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't matter, and those who matter don't mind.
by Sandy Kazmir on Aug 28, 2008 8:32 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
People call into talk radio for two reasons:
To kiss the host’s ass, or to make an ass of themselves on the radio. No good analysis goes on between callers and hosts, and rarely does it go on between one host and another.
by kericr on Aug 28, 2008 8:38 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
No, but the host themselves can be a good analyst.
by R.J. Anderson on Aug 28, 2008 8:39 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
True, but it's nearly impossible to convey that over the air.
by kericr on Aug 28, 2008 8:40 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
They're just being lazy
they could do research, but that cuts into a little thing I like to call fucking around time.
Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't matter, and those who matter don't mind.
by Sandy Kazmir on Aug 28, 2008 8:42 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I just wonder if the strippers are lazy
Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't matter, and those who matter don't mind.
by Sandy Kazmir on Aug 28, 2008 8:44 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
3 shutout innings for Price so far
ERA finally under 4
by joeybw on Aug 28, 2008 8:24 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
making progress
guess there was going to be a bit of a curve for Price there
by sofladude77 on Aug 28, 2008 8:27 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Briggy made the Post-season All Star team for AAA Durham as the starting SS
Too bad he got hurt.
Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't matter, and those who matter don't mind.
by Sandy Kazmir on Aug 28, 2008 8:37 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
SL = Sally League?
Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't matter, and those who matter don't mind.
by Sandy Kazmir on Aug 28, 2008 8:40 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Too lazy to run all the way to 2nd
He had to wuss out and slide near the end. What a bum.
by kericr on Aug 28, 2008 8:43 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
damnit
Price still having those control issues
3/3 BB/K ratio tonight, this guy is a damn bust, worse pick than Townsend!
by joeybw on Aug 28, 2008 8:41 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
He may have baseball skills
But he doesn’t have the baseball smarts
by sofladude77 on Aug 28, 2008 8:44 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
You don't need baseball smarts to be a good player.
by R.J. Anderson on Aug 28, 2008 8:45 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
You don't need any smarts to be a good player.
It works for Manny.
by kericr on Aug 28, 2008 8:45 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
You wonder what BJ was thinking out there
at times, he seems to not stay focused
by sofladude77 on Aug 28, 2008 8:46 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
He was thinking about his next blunt.
That or John McDonald made a nice play, probably the blunt.
by R.J. Anderson on Aug 28, 2008 8:46 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
McDonald pretty much made a diving tag
quit being stupid. It was a perfect pickoff.
by Vin on Aug 28, 2008 8:46 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm assuming you're trolling, and it's working well.
I tend to think really that when things like that happen, it’s not so much as not being focused moreso as being too focused on one specific thing and not as much on the overall picture.
by kericr on Aug 28, 2008 8:47 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Because no one smart has ever been picked off
by td32 on Aug 28, 2008 8:45 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Reason #028934 David Eckstein is the man
He has never been picked off due to his baseball smarts.*
- No idea the actual stats it’s easier to be lazy and make things up.
Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't matter, and those who matter don't mind.
by Sandy Kazmir on Aug 28, 2008 8:47 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
No white players have ever been picked off
afterall this is the major reason for dogging Upton at every opportunity.
Tomorrow the line will be Baserunning mistake nearly costs game with no mention of his catch, the single, the SB.
Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't matter, and those who matter don't mind.
by Sandy Kazmir on Aug 28, 2008 8:46 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Compare your life to his
and then kill yourself.
by Vin on Aug 28, 2008 8:49 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Barty boy
4 prez
Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't matter, and those who matter don't mind.
by Sandy Kazmir on Aug 28, 2008 8:52 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Barty
Hope his knee don’t go bad again
by sofladude77 on Aug 28, 2008 8:52 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Edwincardiogram
makes my heart have palpitations
Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't matter, and those who matter don't mind.
by Sandy Kazmir on Aug 28, 2008 8:54 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Popcorn Edwin
Once he pops he can’t stop
by sofladude77 on Aug 28, 2008 8:53 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Edwin Jackson: The Final Solution of the Blue Jays Problem.
by kericr on Aug 28, 2008 8:53 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
We could trade him for Eckstein
That way we will be building around smart ballplayers instead of guys with actual talent
Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't matter, and those who matter don't mind.
by Sandy Kazmir on Aug 28, 2008 8:55 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Actually I messed up the paraphrase
Edwin Jackson: The Final Solution to the Blue Jays Question.
by kericr on Aug 28, 2008 8:55 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
…aren’t question and problem kind of interchangeable?
by Vin on Aug 28, 2008 8:56 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
In this case, no.
This is another Holocaust joke.
by kericr on Aug 28, 2008 8:56 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
ill give edwin his due
the dude is a pretty good pitcher. Even though he gets himself into trouble, the guy is starting to get it. I dont care how much you say about that stupid tRA shit, Jackson has pitched great this season.
by Jombari on Aug 28, 2008 8:54 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
And yet you think he's better than Sonny
"STP is me. He can do everything I can do." - R.J. Anderson
by P Brady on Aug 28, 2008 8:55 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
"stupid tRA shit"
And you’re the dumbass of the night.
by R.J. Anderson on Aug 28, 2008 8:55 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
last time Edwin didn't give up much runs at all
but anyone watching saw how bad he was, tonight, I think he has looked great
by joeybw on Aug 28, 2008 8:55 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I liked where he got out of those two defensive mistakes in the 2nd (?)
by R.J. Anderson on Aug 28, 2008 8:56 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Bottom like is Edwin makes fewer mistakes
than Sonny who leaves stuff over the middle of the plate all the time.
by sofladude77 on Aug 28, 2008 9:00 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
and Edwin makes good pitches
when hes in trouble
by sofladude77 on Aug 28, 2008 9:00 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
And makes bad pitches that gets him in trouble.
by R.J. Anderson on Aug 28, 2008 9:01 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
THIS THIS THIS 100 TIME THIS
"STP is me. He can do everything I can do." - R.J. Anderson
by P Brady on Aug 28, 2008 9:03 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
He's a poor man's Dice-K
Which isn’t as bad as just being another Dice-K.
by kericr on Aug 28, 2008 9:03 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
hmm, just like Dice-K
He knows how to make it an adventure, their WHIP are pretty close.
by sofladude77 on Aug 28, 2008 9:03 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Don't use WHIP plz.
"STP is me. He can do everything I can do." - R.J. Anderson
by P Brady on Aug 28, 2008 9:03 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Quit failing please.
Rays execs actually read this board.
by Vin on Aug 28, 2008 9:01 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
BOOTS WITH THA FURRRRRRRRRRRRR
"STP is me. He can do everything I can do." - R.J. Anderson
by P Brady on Aug 28, 2008 8:57 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
honestly who cares about tRA
his era is damn good for a 4/5 starter. All you guys do on this site is bring up stats about how “lucky” or “unlucky” somebody has been. How about the “real” stats. Like what he has done actually, not what he could have done or should have been done.
by Jombari on Aug 28, 2008 8:58 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
You just bumped yourself up to dumbass of the week.
"STP is me. He can do everything I can do." - R.J. Anderson
by P Brady on Aug 28, 2008 8:58 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
You're looking at it the wrong way.
tRA is a measurement more of how good he should be doing, and a predictor of how good he will do in the future.
by kericr on Aug 28, 2008 8:59 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Oh great, i got "dumbass of the week" by some people i dont even know`
because i typed that I thought Jackson is a good pitcher
by Jombari on Aug 28, 2008 9:00 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
And all that other stuff you posted about how stats and numbers are for nerds in their moms basement or something
Also, reply fail.
"STP is me. He can do everything I can do." - R.J. Anderson
by P Brady on Aug 28, 2008 9:01 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
hey, great guy you are
insulting other fans. Hey, keep doing that, maybe more people will want to be just like you
by Jombari on Aug 28, 2008 9:03 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
USE FUCKING REPLY AND STOP STARTING NEW THREADS
by kericr on Aug 28, 2008 9:03 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
It's funny that I just earlier brought how people who think like you are approached.
Everybody needs to try again.
by kericr on Aug 28, 2008 9:05 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Completely awesome? Yeah, everyone wants to be like that. I'm the god damned captain of the cool police.
"STP is me. He can do everything I can do." - R.J. Anderson
by P Brady on Aug 28, 2008 9:03 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
You insult yourself when you say stupid things
people just take the pleasure in pointing it out
Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't matter, and those who matter don't mind.
by Sandy Kazmir on Aug 28, 2008 9:06 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
all i did was come on here and say what i thought about jackson
and i get ripped a new asshole. sweet
by Jombari on Aug 28, 2008 9:03 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
You brought up tRA and called it stupid shit.
Stop being a bitch.
by R.J. Anderson on Aug 28, 2008 9:04 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
wow, something to argue about.
sorry i got a stat wrong, my bad, but jesus argue about something that means something in life other than a stat.
by Jombari on Aug 28, 2008 9:05 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
There's nothing to argue.
You’re the one flipping shit.
by R.J. Anderson on Aug 28, 2008 9:06 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
i am a fan along with all of you guys, so relax
by Jombari on Aug 28, 2008 9:06 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Nobody is saying you aren't.
But you have to understand that when you start a comment by saying “You guys talk about that stupid shit tRA…” you’re going to get a confrontation.
by R.J. Anderson on Aug 28, 2008 9:07 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
You already had a new asshole, called your mouth.
"STP is me. He can do everything I can do." - R.J. Anderson
by P Brady on Aug 28, 2008 9:05 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
ZING
"STP is me. He can do everything I can do." - R.J. Anderson
by P Brady on Aug 28, 2008 9:06 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Its zing worthy
"STP is me. He can do everything I can do." - R.J. Anderson
by P Brady on Aug 28, 2008 9:07 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
It it was, it would've been zinged by someone else.
You now, Carrot Top laughs at his own jokes too.
by kericr on Aug 28, 2008 9:07 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Carrot Top naked is a funny joke.
To the blind.
by R.J. Anderson on Aug 28, 2008 9:08 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
It doesn't really work
when you have to ZING your own post.
by Vin on Aug 28, 2008 9:07 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Lame to the max
Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't matter, and those who matter don't mind.
by Sandy Kazmir on Aug 28, 2008 9:07 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Jackson is a solid #5 right now..
That many on here believe is overvalued and could probably be traded in the offseason
by td32 on Aug 28, 2008 9:06 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
All ignorance/bitching aside...
Jackson is pitching a hell of a game.
by Vin on Aug 28, 2008 9:06 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
He's pitching into the 7th
Which Kazmir has done only once in the 2nd half.
by sofladude77 on Aug 28, 2008 9:07 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
whenever i want to be ripped a new asshole
i go to craigslist
by mittens on Aug 28, 2008 9:06 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
That's bullshit, nobody on craigslist has a penis.
"STP is me. He can do everything I can do." - R.J. Anderson
by P Brady on Aug 28, 2008 9:07 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
you obviously missed the tranny section then
by Jombari on Aug 28, 2008 9:10 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sandy Kazmir just hurt himself trying to get there
"STP is me. He can do everything I can do." - R.J. Anderson
by P Brady on Aug 28, 2008 9:11 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Agreed
oh wait you meant me uhhh good one
Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't matter, and those who matter don't mind.
by Sandy Kazmir on Aug 28, 2008 9:13 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Oh, I'm sure he knows all about that part.
by R.J. Anderson on Aug 28, 2008 9:11 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
LATE
"STP is me. He can do everything I can do." - R.J. Anderson
by P Brady on Aug 28, 2008 9:12 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
It's not going to look that way after I delete your comment.
by R.J. Anderson on Aug 28, 2008 9:12 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'll delete yours
"STP is me. He can do everything I can do." - R.J. Anderson
by P Brady on Aug 28, 2008 9:14 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Magrane drunk again.
Purveyor of inane douchebaggery and general snarkiness
by RATW on Aug 28, 2008 9:22 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
this is our 13th series since the ASG
11 wins, 1 split
come on guys, 6 more outs!
by joeybw on Aug 28, 2008 9:23 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
i think its time to pull him
great start but hes working too much
by joeybw on Aug 28, 2008 9:25 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Left him in too long.
Let Jackson end the right way.
by sofladude77 on Aug 28, 2008 9:26 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
What the helll is wrong with you?
"STP is me. He can do everything I can do." - R.J. Anderson
by P Brady on Aug 28, 2008 9:28 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Garza sucks
DFA him
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by Sandy Kazmir on Aug 28, 2008 9:28 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
The only thing reasonable about a Mariners fan
actually I can’t think of anything, to tell you the truth
by Sylar on Aug 28, 2008 9:30 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
5 outs lets not be dramatic here
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by Sandy Kazmir on Aug 28, 2008 9:32 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
...That made no sense.
Why in hell would you bring in Bradford with 2 lefties coming up?
by Vin on Aug 28, 2008 9:32 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Maddon's decision making has probably cost us about 80 wins this year.
by kericr on Aug 28, 2008 9:33 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
hahahahaha
DFA his ass
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by Sandy Kazmir on Aug 28, 2008 9:33 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Mad Dog likes to see what he can get away with
If he can get a DP here Joe knows Chadford can come in in similar situations down the road, like when the games matter a little bit more.
Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't matter, and those who matter don't mind.
by Sandy Kazmir on Aug 28, 2008 9:33 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I could've swore I just saw Fossum on the mound
by Sylar on Aug 28, 2008 9:36 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
haha
We don’t keep the trash in Tampa, it all ends up in Detroit
by sofladude77 on Aug 28, 2008 9:37 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
That dude will fuck your shit up meng
Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't matter, and those who matter don't mind.
by Sandy Kazmir on Aug 28, 2008 9:40 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
How in the fuck
Did Stokes get over 60 innings last year? Think about that a guy with an ERA over 7 pitched 62 innings. I <3 this team.
Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't matter, and those who matter don't mind.
by Sandy Kazmir on Aug 28, 2008 9:38 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Lets lock it down
4 reelz
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by Sandy Kazmir on Aug 28, 2008 9:42 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
not Eckstein
He is such a smart, gritty, amazing, homosexual ballplayer
Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't matter, and those who matter don't mind.
by Sandy Kazmir on Aug 28, 2008 9:42 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
SCUTAh -SCUTAH-SCUTAH-SCUTAROOO
I just love saying that
by Sylar on Aug 28, 2008 9:43 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
HE GONE
"STP is me. He can do everything I can do." - R.J. Anderson
by P Brady on Aug 28, 2008 9:44 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
98!
And then follow with the slider… need more of that Balf.
by AussieGriff on Aug 28, 2008 9:44 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
If he could throw a slider down in the zone consistently...
He would be near unhittable
by td32 on Aug 28, 2008 9:45 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Agreed
But if he just used it more often, it might at least get it hitters’ heads that something other than heat is coming.
by AussieGriff on Aug 28, 2008 9:48 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Did we really need to use 4 pitchers this inning?
I’m glad it worked out and all but…
by Vin on Aug 28, 2008 9:44 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
AIIIIGHT
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by Sandy Kazmir on Aug 28, 2008 9:44 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Anyone else on the radio?
They just replayed the announcer doing that gay ass Theeee Yankeeeess win. I would like to have 5 mins with that guy in a windowless room.
Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't matter, and those who matter don't mind.
by Sandy Kazmir on Aug 28, 2008 9:47 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Slashfic?
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by Sandy Kazmir on Aug 28, 2008 9:49 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Carmina Barana
Vogt early, Vogt often.
by Brickhaus on Aug 28, 2008 9:49 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
So do we still hate Riggans from the Sox series?
by Sylar on Aug 28, 2008 9:52 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Only if he doesn't
catch the ball again
by sofladude77 on Aug 28, 2008 9:53 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
What did you hate him for?
The throw down to 3rd? Dude took a shot to the chest and didn’t come out I will never hate that man
Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't matter, and those who matter don't mind.
by Sandy Kazmir on Aug 28, 2008 9:53 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Taking that pitch in the chest is the only reason he isnt hated...yet
by td32 on Aug 28, 2008 9:54 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
He's had a couple of clutch hits.
He seems to have Garza on the road to success. No ego, orders off the childrens menu whenever they go out. He’s a backup catcher he doesn’t need to light the world on fire unless we want him to leave sometime
Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't matter, and those who matter don't mind.
by Sandy Kazmir on Aug 28, 2008 9:56 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
He does a good enough job for my taste
I mean the Jays backup catcher is Greg Zaun, sure good veteran catcher, but isn’t he like 65 years old
Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't matter, and those who matter don't mind.
by Sandy Kazmir on Aug 28, 2008 9:58 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Thats used car salesman Rocco Baldellin in 20 years right?
Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't matter, and those who matter don't mind.
by Sandy Kazmir on Aug 28, 2008 9:57 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Thats funny but I wouldn't buy a ham sandwich from that guy let alone something people sit on
Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't matter, and those who matter don't mind.
by Sandy Kazmir on Aug 28, 2008 9:59 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
You can find it, in montgomery
I’m talkin bout flea market
by Sylar on Aug 28, 2008 10:01 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
HE GONE
Zaun’s bat went farther than the ball!!
by sofladude77 on Aug 28, 2008 9:58 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
one more please
dont let this get to Rios
by joeybw on Aug 28, 2008 10:00 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Wheeeels
Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't matter, and those who matter don't mind.
by Sandy Kazmir on Aug 28, 2008 10:01 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
All these wins are making me thirsty.
by R.J. Anderson on Aug 28, 2008 10:01 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I have a thirst
and the only prescription is FIDDLE FUCKING CAT
Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't matter, and those who matter don't mind.
by Sandy Kazmir on Aug 28, 2008 10:02 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs