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Baltimore Orioles @ Tampa Bay Rays


Baltimore at RAYS

7:10; FSN Florida
RAYS RADIO/1250 AM

Pitching Matchup:


 IP tRA + K/9 BB/9 K/BB HR/9 OPS WHIP G/F P/IP
BAL RH J. Guthrie
 183.2 4.52 105 5.73 2.50 2.29 1.08 .669 1.17 1.16 15.85
RAYS LH S. Kazmir
 121.0 4.02 118 9.97 3.87 2.58 1.04 .698 1.23 0.62 17.93

GO RAYS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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MVP: Kaz

because if not he may have to be considered the 4th best starter right now on the team given the way Garza and Jackson have pitched over the last month

by Dbullsfan on Aug 29, 2008 4:31 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

How we roll

Iwamura, 2b
Upton, cf
Pena, 1b
Floyd, dh
Aybar, 3b
Hinske, lf
Zobrist, ss
Gross, rf
Riggans, c
Kazmir, p

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by SeanDubbs on Aug 29, 2008 4:43 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I love Kazmir

I just wish he would quit thinking so much. He has reat stuff, and the defense is reat, just throw strikes.

by rglass44 on Aug 29, 2008 4:50 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

He throws strikes

They keep getting fouled off. That’s why his pitch count has been going nuts as of late.

Last outing was a good start, 6 innings and 108 pitches last outing is an improvement over what we’ve seen as of late, even if he got touched up for a couple of homers.

by kericr on Aug 29, 2008 5:18 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Agreed

I just want to see dominant starts, how about 12 Ks and 7 IP.

by rglass44 on Aug 29, 2008 5:20 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

As long as he's abandoned his slider, I doubt we see that again this year.

I don’t know if he’s trying to do something to preserve his arm and stay healthy or if he still doesn’t have location for it or what, but if he’s throwing fastballs 85% of the time from now on, we might as well just run Balfour out to start games.

by kericr on Aug 29, 2008 6:50 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

As for Bartlett, manager Joe Maddon said the shortstop isn’t hurt, he just wanted to give him a day off this weekend, and would rather have it against the RHP Jeremy Guthrie than the two left-handers the Orioles will throw the next two days; Bartlett will be back in the lineup Saturday, when Orioles LHP Chris Waters will start in replace of RHP Daniel Cabrera.

Fun.

by Vin on Aug 29, 2008 5:38 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

WTF Happened to fanshots????

They’re not on the main page!!! I want to start a discussion but fear the wrath of Patrick!!! What do I do?!?!?!?!

by Vin on Aug 29, 2008 6:04 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Start the discussion anyway

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by JMB on Aug 29, 2008 6:06 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

...I don't have anything to talk about.

It was just a device to introduce the irony of Pat’s miraculous return as FanShot Nazi and the disappearance of FanShots.

by Vin on Aug 29, 2008 6:10 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

This is a coincidence?

right? RIGHT?!?!

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by JMB on Aug 29, 2008 6:12 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I dont know man

some weird shit has been going on around here.

by Vin on Aug 29, 2008 6:18 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I'm sure it's nothing

nothing at all…

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by JMB on Aug 29, 2008 6:20 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Kaz had better pitch a gem

i benched Markakis and Huff from my fantasy teamjust so Kaz can dominate with a clear conscious

by daveh33 on Aug 29, 2008 6:56 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

How do I use a proxy

I am in TEX, but the O’s are blacked out for me ‘cause my account’s in DC. Help.

by rglass44 on Aug 29, 2008 7:12 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Again..

4 pitch walks and 2 steals dont have anything to do with attendance

by td32 on Aug 29, 2008 7:14 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

In case you havent watched ESPN in the last 48 hours

The have constantly played an interview with Kaz where he complains a little too much for my taste about attendance

by td32 on Aug 29, 2008 7:15 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I hate Brian Roberts

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by JMB on Aug 29, 2008 7:15 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

oh god

here come the foul balls

by joeybw on Aug 29, 2008 7:16 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

STOP FOULING SHIT OFF

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by JMB on Aug 29, 2008 7:16 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Jesus Kaz, effiency please

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by JMB on Aug 29, 2008 7:20 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Another bad call

Statts thought there was 3 strikes.

nice play Pena

by joeybw on Aug 29, 2008 7:22 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I’m worried about Staats, it’s like he had a stroke in May or something. Keeps forgetting the count, going into HR calls on flyouts, etc. far more than previous years. Then again, in previous years he probably just played pre-recorded comments on a loop while he slept in the press box.

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by RATW on Aug 29, 2008 7:27 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Aubrey Huff grounds out to first

stop us if you’ve heard this one before…

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by JMB on Aug 29, 2008 7:23 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

AKI-KNOCK

Now, do something with it

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by JMB on Aug 29, 2008 7:26 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

WTF Aki

Seriously…

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by JMB on Aug 29, 2008 7:29 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

YES!!!

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by RATW on Aug 29, 2008 7:31 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Probably ran out of options and he’d been just average in the minors.

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by RATW on Aug 29, 2008 7:32 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

ghei

C’mon Hinske. Pretend they’re the Blue Jays!

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by JMB on Aug 29, 2008 7:34 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

classic RISP hitting

at least we didnt wind up with 0

by joeybw on Aug 29, 2008 7:35 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

God damnit, Hinske

How the fuck did we score only once in that inning?

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by JMB on Aug 29, 2008 7:35 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Aybar didn't feel like batting

and Hinske just tapped the 1st thing he saw

by joeybw on Aug 29, 2008 7:38 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Sounds fuckin' clutch to me

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by JMB on Aug 29, 2008 7:39 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Scott KKazmir!!

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by JMB on Aug 29, 2008 7:42 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Would be nice to see

Let’s hope

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by JMB on Aug 29, 2008 7:44 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

huh

No. 2 overall pick Eric Hosmer has been pull out of today’s game with Idaho Falls of the Pioneer League. This happened at the commissioner’s request, and is obviously related to the grievance filed by the union related to the Pedro Alvarez deal, and the Pirates‘ official response, which noted that Hosmer’s deal with the Royals came into the commissioner’s office even later than Alvarez’ did.

"STP is me. He can do everything I can do." - R.J. Anderson

by P Brady on Aug 29, 2008 7:48 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

anyone else live in Boston?

I could use some back up when I go to the games here next month

by plasticman on Aug 29, 2008 7:50 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

nah but

I have to deal with the same shit living in NY. I wear my Longo jerseys and get dirty looks

by joeybw on Aug 29, 2008 7:51 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I went down to NY for a game

the first of that two game series with Kazmir
I know what you mean

by plasticman on Aug 29, 2008 7:53 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I <3 gift runs

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by JMB on Aug 29, 2008 7:57 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

C-PAIN.

"STP is me. He can do everything I can do." - R.J. Anderson

by P Brady on Aug 29, 2008 7:57 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Josh Beckett: placed on the DL retroactive to Aug. 18

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by RATW on Aug 29, 2008 7:58 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Elbow?

"STP is me. He can do everything I can do." - R.J. Anderson

by P Brady on Aug 29, 2008 7:59 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

It sounds like good news for the Sawx. Nothing serious detected by Dr. Andrews and they think he will be back after the 15 days are up.

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by RATW on Aug 29, 2008 8:02 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Oh wow.

"STP is me. He can do everything I can do." - R.J. Anderson

by P Brady on Aug 29, 2008 8:00 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

HAHAHA GUTHRIE HAS AWESOME CONTROL

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by JMB on Aug 29, 2008 8:00 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

3-0

Aybar sucks but gotta love this

by joeybw on Aug 29, 2008 8:00 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

WHY WOULD YOU SUCK?

"STP is me. He can do everything I can do." - R.J. Anderson

by P Brady on Aug 29, 2008 8:01 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Er. suck = swing

"STP is me. He can do everything I can do." - R.J. Anderson

by P Brady on Aug 29, 2008 8:01 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Same difference in that regard

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by JMB on Aug 29, 2008 8:03 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Absolutely should not be swinging in that instance

wait for Guthrie to show he can throw a few strikes first. Stupid Aybar.

by Albertrayon on Aug 29, 2008 8:01 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Missed the first 1.5 innings, how did Kid K look?

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by P Brady on Aug 29, 2008 8:02 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

He had a very good 2nd inning.. threw strikes consistently and got efficient outs. (and as I type that, he issues a walk)

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by RATW on Aug 29, 2008 8:09 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

That wasn't smart, Willy

Now, more of what Kaz did last inning

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by JMB on Aug 29, 2008 8:02 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Yikes

Kaz got away with one there

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by JMB on Aug 29, 2008 8:04 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

WHAT? THAT WAS A BALL?

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by P Brady on Aug 29, 2008 8:05 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Sometimes I think Kaz should walk guys

just to stop the pitch count from going too high!

he seems pitch foul balls alot

by plasticman on Aug 29, 2008 8:07 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

If by walking them, you mean beaning them

I’m all in agreement for punishing a batter for working the count long enough.

by kericr on Aug 29, 2008 8:08 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I missed the racist K, didn't I?

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by JMB on Aug 29, 2008 8:09 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

fuckin walks

I wanna see Kazmir pitching in the 7th inning for a change

by joeybw on Aug 29, 2008 8:11 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I'll be happy with 6 IP

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by JMB on Aug 29, 2008 8:12 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I love Pena's spirit

Remember that double, where he got to second and went nuts? I think it was an angels game. I just saw him pumping up kaz, which is why I mention it.

by plasticman on Aug 29, 2008 8:12 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

on another note

How about the Jays sweep the Yankees and take 3rd?

by joeybw on Aug 29, 2008 8:12 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

They couldn't do this when they were in Toronto.

It’d be nice, but it ain’t gonna happen. Both those teams are dead in the water anyway.

by kericr on Aug 29, 2008 8:13 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

but thats not the point

I want the Yankees in 4th

Hank Steinbrenner, the genius that he is deserves 4th

by joeybw on Aug 29, 2008 8:14 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Remember when the Red Sox had their problem of too many outfielders

earlier in the year? Watching the game and now it’s Bay, Ellsbury, and fucking Mark Kotsay playing out there. What the hell happened the past few months?

by Albertrayon on Aug 29, 2008 8:14 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

We are fans of a team that also had a "glut of outfielders"

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by JMB on Aug 29, 2008 8:15 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

But the Rays actually have a useful "glut"

Players filling in during injuries. The Sox just make trades whenever someone gets injured or unhappy.

by Albertrayon on Aug 29, 2008 8:18 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Ugh.

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by RATW on Aug 29, 2008 8:16 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Thank you, Iwamura-san

Christ, Kaz. 64 pitches through 3?

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by JMB on Aug 29, 2008 8:17 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

It's just Kazmir being Kazmir

I wish he’d focus more. Like Upton. (Yes, it’s an improvement)

by kericr on Aug 29, 2008 8:18 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

AKI

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by RATW on Aug 29, 2008 8:17 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

The Yankees are going to look so different next year

I’m really excited to see what moves they are going to make with all the money they hopefully should be saving, unless they pick up dumbass options

by Albertrayon on Aug 29, 2008 8:25 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

And I guess "excited" is a strong word

I still hate the Yankees, just interested to see what they’ll do

by Albertrayon on Aug 29, 2008 8:26 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

The Yankees need to seriously consider doing everything they can to rebuild their farm system

Their biggest problem is that they have absolutely zero depth anywhere. No pitching, no fielders, nothing in their farm system.

by kericr on Aug 29, 2008 8:31 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

their biggest problem is they can't evaluate talent

Melky as a full-timer on a team witha $200MM payroll? Abreu in the outfield? Signing Posada to an extension? Sticking with Jose Molina as their starting catcher for so long?

by Sky Kalkman on Aug 29, 2008 8:34 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

when you have a HUGE payroll, overpaying for players isn't necessarily a bad thing

it’s the fact that they’ve spent money on overrated players — nobody could guess Pavano would have been struck by lightening four times, but it was obvious he only had one good year before coming to NY.

and kericr made a good poing about depth. spend some money on a decent fourth outfielder or a sixth guy for the rotation, etc.

by Sky Kalkman on Aug 29, 2008 8:39 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

They're in such a horribly bad way now

Seriously, if they attempted to fill all their gaps in FA, including building their depth, I’d guess their payroll would be close to 300 million. Sometimes, you just gotta fold your hand. The Yankees are a team that needs to consider rebuilding this time, not reloading.

by kericr on Aug 29, 2008 8:41 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

well, they've got a lot coming off the books right now

so if they choose to spend wisely, it will make a difference. you can build the farm system and spend money at the same time.

by Sky Kalkman on Aug 29, 2008 8:45 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Three big FA pitchers

CC, Sheets, and someone else, can’t remember.

How many of them aren’t Boras clients? If you wanna spend smart, you can’t spend on Boras players.

by kericr on Aug 29, 2008 8:46 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Cue nyyfaninlaaland.

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by RATW on Aug 29, 2008 8:40 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

they will bring back Mussina and Pettite I assume

and try to replace Giambi with Tex

and who else is off the books? I know it’s a lot.

by joeybw on Aug 29, 2008 8:27 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Don't expose our ignorance.

As if it was a secret.

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by RATW on Aug 29, 2008 8:30 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Is Pavano pitching the most expensive innings in baseball history?

That’ll be something fun to look up. Around 40 mil for just a handful of starts

by Albertrayon on Aug 29, 2008 8:30 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Gotta be a good race between Pavano and Hampton.

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by RATW on Aug 29, 2008 8:33 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Crunched the numbers for 2005-2008

since they’re pretty comparable between those years.

Mike Hampton is making $55mil of those years with a total of 109 IP thusfar for $509k per inning.

Carl Pavano is making $40mil with 116 IP thusfar for $345k per innning.

Those numbers will drop throughout the end of this year, but still a ridiculous amount to pay per inning and should hopefully (along with Zito) serve as a warning story against long, expensive pitchers’ contracts.

by Albertrayon on Aug 29, 2008 8:40 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

We should sign them!!!

Juan Guzman: 1.2 IP = $12 mil
Wilson Alvarez: 377.2 IP = $35 mil.

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by RATW on Aug 29, 2008 8:50 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

like i mentioned with the yankees before, the contract isn't the biggest problem

it’s that those three pitchers weren’t all that spectacular. Hampton’s FIPs before signing with Colorado were around 3.85 — good, but not as good as his ERA suggested. Zito hadn’t been in Cy Young form for a number of years and his tRA’s were in the high 4.00s for many years. Pavan had ONE good year and a bunch of short or bad ones.

by Sky Kalkman on Aug 29, 2008 8:55 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

yeah, he's gone -- awful fielder and the Yankees already have a ton of DH options

Matsui really should be DH, but that might have to fall to Posada. Tex is actually a pretty decent signing, considering his nifty glove. If Posada DHs, that’s it other than pitching. If Posada does not DH, then Matsui does and they can add a good OF — but there aren’t really any on the FA market

by Sky Kalkman on Aug 29, 2008 8:32 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

The Rays love waiting until 2 outs to get started

it’s aggravating, and probably annoys the shit out of opposing pitchers

by Albertrayon on Aug 29, 2008 8:23 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

pretty slow game

i guess that happens when both starters are in the 60’s in pitches already

by joeybw on Aug 29, 2008 8:24 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

4 innings done

That means the Kazmir watch begins

Can he get us 2 more?

by joeybw on Aug 29, 2008 8:33 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Aw

Willy’s a fucking sweatheart.

by Vin on Aug 29, 2008 8:34 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I've already gone over why IE is my browser of choice.

This site is the only one I frequent that also has problems in IE.

by kericr on Aug 29, 2008 8:37 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

You should.

Firefox cannot stream audio and video, it requires the entire file to be cashed before it will trigger playback.

by kericr on Aug 29, 2008 8:38 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Oh yeah.

I actually did pay attention to that.

by Vin on Aug 29, 2008 8:40 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

This is a little more of a programmer question

I couldn’t tell you for sure, but my guess would probably be due to how IE integrates into windows; IE in addition to being a web browser, also acts as the OS file browser, preventing you from ever having multiple versions of IE on a windows OS system. You an install multiple versions of FF without a problem.

FF is the better browser, I’ll never debate that. It’s just not a better browser for me.

by kericr on Aug 29, 2008 8:44 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

were you the one who told me about your asvab score?

by Vin on Aug 29, 2008 8:41 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Was that on paper?

Its supposed to be easier on paper… Not that I’m trying to bring you down. I’m just trying to make myself look better.

Anyway, I took it monday and got a 90. the next highest score was like a 72…

by Vin on Aug 29, 2008 8:47 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

It was on paper and it was years ago.

A 90 is damn good to my knowledge. A number that high is supposedly supposed to be good enough to get looked at for MI.

by kericr on Aug 29, 2008 8:48 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I haven't met with a career counselor yet

I was DQ’d for having a high heart rate and have to get a waiver. (Really stupid shit). But everyone was making a big deal out of it. Apparently I can have any job in the Army I want. Its pretty damned cool.

by Vin on Aug 29, 2008 8:50 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I used IE until about 2005

when my compsci prof for my Javascript class said he was testing all of our websites in Mozilla. I think he even referred to IE as “Internet Exploder”. He was kinda of jackass, but I just got so used to the format I haven’t switched back.

by Albertrayon on Aug 29, 2008 8:45 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

He did that with good reason.

IE 6 (the latest IE in 2005) is absolutely horrible to program Javascript in. IE 7 is light years ahead but still pales in comparison to Firefox. Trying to learn Javascript AND code in compliance with IE at the same time is overwhelmingly difficult. You can learn correct JS first then go back and learn all the hacks for IE later.

by kericr on Aug 29, 2008 8:50 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Yeah, that was what we eventually figured out.

That prof sure was a jackass though. He had a website on the school hosting where he referred to himself as Sting (couldn’t tell if it was the wrestler or the singer) and had a bunch of pictures of him dressed up in armor swordfighting like a big fat sweaty knight. We also found out from that site that he was dating an extremely ugly student.

by Albertrayon on Aug 29, 2008 8:54 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I am aware of the phenomenon.

Back around 2001-2002 when I was a Senior in highschool, there used to be a group that would meet every once in a while off Fletcher Ave. in Tampa to dress up like knights and pound on each other. I always used to drive past it and go “WTF?” until someone brought it up in class and a classmate explained what was happening. I think he was made fun of for knowing.

by Albertrayon on Aug 29, 2008 9:04 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Tomorrow is "We the Kings"

some local band. Do they have someone tonight? I know it was the Baseball Prospectus meeting before the game.

by Albertrayon on Aug 29, 2008 8:42 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I still think we could use a better leadoff guy

but I’d really like to see Aki signed to an extension.

by Vin on Aug 29, 2008 8:37 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

i want a BJ extention

and I think he will back off his year to year stance

by joeybw on Aug 29, 2008 8:38 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

he's a solid player and worth it at the right price

but i’m guessing he’ll get more cash from another team than we should pay him

by Sky Kalkman on Aug 29, 2008 8:41 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

YESSSSSSSSSSSSSS

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by RATW on Aug 29, 2008 8:45 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

they said Guthrie was 2nd in the AL in QS

only behind Cliff Lee

well, he wont get one tonight.

by joeybw on Aug 29, 2008 8:46 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

they are walking Hinske

with the way he looks tonight, thank you.

by joeybw on Aug 29, 2008 8:49 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

If anybody's interested a did a comparison above

of $$$$/Inning for Pavano v. Hampton over the past 4 years. Assuming both of them break or tear or blowout something soon (a fair assumption), the Braves are paying $509k per IP over the past four years, while the Yankees are paying a frugal $345k per IP over the same timespan. Obviously both of those numbers will drop through the end of the year, but not too dramatically. And we call the Yankees mindless spenders…

by Albertrayon on Aug 29, 2008 8:49 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

How about Juan Guzman?

The Devil Rays signed him to a 2-year $12 million contract and he pitched exactly 1 1/3 inning for them before blowing out his arm. That’s like $7.2 million per inning pitched.

by homeboogie on Aug 29, 2008 8:57 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Yes I realized shortly after I started looking through the stats

that there would be a few cases like that which would blow Pavano and Hampton out of the water. In the end however I think Pavano’s contract is more a kick in the balls than Hampton’s. Hampton’s contract was a little longer so the Braves at least got some quality pitching for like 2 years before he got hurt. Pavano’s been hurt since the first year of his contract.

by Albertrayon on Aug 29, 2008 9:01 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

DON'T SCREW WITH JESUS

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by RATW on Aug 29, 2008 8:51 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

JESUS!!! FUCK YEAH!!!!

Certainties in Life: Death, Taxes, and Gabe Gross coming through in the ninth

by JMB on Aug 29, 2008 8:52 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

10-0

we have an offense, who knew?

GG!

by joeybw on Aug 29, 2008 8:52 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Gabe Gross everyone!!

We have a winning season in sight, gentlemen!

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by JMB on Aug 29, 2008 8:52 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

GROOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOSSSSSSSSSSS

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by RATW on Aug 29, 2008 8:52 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

You suck, Riggans

You didn’t score this inning

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by JMB on Aug 29, 2008 8:54 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

This game is a shitshow

someone get a handle on that catcher before he makes more of an ass of himself

by Albertrayon on Aug 29, 2008 8:55 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Ramon Hernandez finally snaps

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by JMB on Aug 29, 2008 8:56 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I dunno

I’m just going by the GDT and Gameday

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by JMB on Aug 29, 2008 8:58 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

He started bitching about a ball that he thought was a strike

The ump told him to throw the ball back to the pitcher, and he snapped. Started screaming at the umpire and got tossed. He dumped his glove and mask on home plate and continued to yell and scream as he walked off.

by ReasonableDoubt on Aug 29, 2008 9:02 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Ump has had a tight zone all night, then a pitch he thought Aki swung at...

Ump told him to get the ball back to the pitcher, and he didnt appreciate it.

by td32 on Aug 29, 2008 8:59 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Kaz just needs to get through this inning

and hope the best bullpen in baseball doesnt give up 10-0 lead to get all the SP’s to 10+ wins

by joeybw on Aug 29, 2008 8:59 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Who woulda thunk...

…If you drafted the entire Rays rotation for your fantasy baseball team, you should be blowing out all of your opponents in pitching stats.

by kericr on Aug 29, 2008 9:01 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

TB's bullpen is great

but its not the best. Not even the best in AL. The lowly jays top TB’s bullpen in every meaningful stat but saves, and the phillies bullpen is better than TB’s in every aspect. But a good bullpen none the less.

by HanleysHitters on Aug 29, 2008 9:02 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

DAMNIT

Missed my chacne to psot this again:

by Sylar on Aug 29, 2008 9:02 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

A classic.

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by RATW on Aug 29, 2008 9:04 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Ha! That's hilarious....

This game makes me want to party

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by Craig T on Aug 29