GDT Pt. 2
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I don't know what to say
I don’t know what to saaaaaaaaaay
Vogt early, Vogt often.
by Brickhaus on
Aug 6, 2008 1:54 PM EDT
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Meh
"STP is me. He can do everything I can do." - R.J. Anderson
by P Brady on
Aug 6, 2008 1:55 PM EDT
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I just wish we had Mike Defiliece up
I would love to see the great Fasano/Defilice match up
by Dbullsfan on
Aug 6, 2008 1:56 PM EDT
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Not a pretty sight
Vogt early, Vogt often.
by Brickhaus on
Aug 6, 2008 1:57 PM EDT
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works for me
Lazy Upton > most CF in their early 20’s
by Dbullsfan on
Aug 6, 2008 1:58 PM EDT
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he REALLY did piss me off, after all the people on here that try to defend him...
by Acadien on
Aug 6, 2008 1:58 PM EDT
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....If you mean BJ I swear to god
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by P Brady on
Aug 6, 2008 1:59 PM EDT
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You better not have.
"STP is me. He can do everything I can do." - R.J. Anderson
by P Brady on
Aug 6, 2008 2:02 PM EDT
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Hahaha, which one of you is this:
Seems to be a common theme with some of these players (Edwin, Crawford, Upton, Aybar, Floyd) I just don’t get them. I love watching Ben Zobrist play though, always good to see a fellow southern catholic succeed!Posted by: Frankie | August 06, 2008 at 01:50 PM
by Top Gun Numba 1 on
Aug 6, 2008 1:58 PM EDT
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So stupid it has to be real.
"STP is me. He can do everything I can do." - R.J. Anderson
by P Brady on
Aug 6, 2008 1:59 PM EDT
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Someone told me
That Upton was gonna be gone after this year, or maybe next year. whenever his contract is up, because he doesnt want to be here. I disagreed, but why is everyone so down on BJ?
by jacksontsmith on
Aug 6, 2008 1:59 PM EDT
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same reason dumb-shit boston fans don't like JD Drew...
by Vin on
Aug 6, 2008 2:01 PM EDT
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JD Drew has a long history of reasons not to like him
by TallMatt on
Aug 6, 2008 2:02 PM EDT
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like?
All I ever hear about is his “lack of passion”
by Vin on
Aug 6, 2008 2:03 PM EDT
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JD
Not signing and playing for Philly started people disliking him.
How he has often followed up good seasons with terrible one’s is another reason.
His first year in Boston, after signing for $70M, would be a good example.
by TallMatt on
Aug 6, 2008 2:06 PM EDT
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plenty of good reasons
screwing the team that drafted you = valid
being fragile = valid
posting OPS+ of 105 while earning large money = valid
being a Seminole “grad” = valid
by gatorman2k2 on
Aug 6, 2008 3:52 PM EDT
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3 of 4
Could arguably be reasons to hate Rocco. Hating a player for using their leverage to get the right dollars or ‘fit’ is a stupid reason to hate a player. Do you also think that doctors should not be allowed to pick their hospital, that teachers should just randomly be assigned at the state level? Baseball has a very anti-competitive system for labor, and we shouldn’t boo the players who stand up for themselves and their families.
by GomesSweetGomes on
Aug 6, 2008 5:04 PM EDT
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define terrible
he had a 105 OPS+ last year
and would people be more happy if Drew’s had all 125 OPS+ seasons instead of alternating them with 160 OPS+ seasons?
does not observing passion matter if a player’s producing? does observing passion matter if the player sucks?
my blog // calling BJ Upton lazy is lazy // past results do not guarantee future performance
by Sky Kalkman on
Aug 6, 2008 2:10 PM EDT
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Wasn't that the deal with Grieve as well?
by R.J. Anderson on
Aug 6, 2008 2:06 PM EDT
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I never really got the hate on him.
He was average or above each season here. You would think the haters would focus on someone else, it’s not as if they didn’t have a ton of bad choices.
by R.J. Anderson on
Aug 6, 2008 2:12 PM EDT
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Ben Grieve's bum rib
A random, reoccurring injury that kept him out for decent chunks at a time.
That’s why most people don’t like him… He seemed like kind of a pansy.
by Vin on
Aug 6, 2008 2:14 PM EDT
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BJ has been unfairly lumped in with Delmon and Elijah
So every little mistake he makes, which even the best and loved MLB players make, is severely magnified.
by matthan on
Aug 6, 2008 2:02 PM EDT
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I have heard a lot of that
Doesnt make a lot of sense to me.
by jacksontsmith on
Aug 6, 2008 2:02 PM EDT
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He's the guy who wanted to kill Delmon after the bat throwing incident.
The problems last year were Delmon/Dukes. Upton hangs with Crawford/Edwin as it is.
by R.J. Anderson on
Aug 6, 2008 2:03 PM EDT
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I remember when he got his DUI up here in Durham a few years back and it got thrown in the mix
with the bat tossing of Young and all of Dukes’ problems. Of course in the fine print it said like he had the equvilant of 1/2 a can of beer over the legal limit and the whole situation was odd (with getting pulled). He has never really been a part of that group other than being black and talented.
by Dbullsfan on
Aug 6, 2008 2:05 PM EDT
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DUIs really aren't a big deal
I know i’m going to get bitched at for saying it, but it isn’t that bad of a mark on character. It happens especially with the extremely low legal limits these days
by matthan on
Aug 6, 2008 2:06 PM EDT
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yea, JJ Reddick got one around the same time, but was given a free pass
It didn’t suprise me here in North Carolina but in Florida, you would think the problem would be a little less.
by Dbullsfan on
Aug 6, 2008 2:08 PM EDT
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I think 99.9 percent of males in their early 20's drive over the legal limit at some point
It is just a question of who gets caught and who doesn’t.
by matthan on
Aug 6, 2008 2:09 PM EDT
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not that I'm proud but I know I have.
most people that go to a bar to watch a game usually have mroe than 3 drinks and that would put you over the limit
by Dbullsfan on
Aug 6, 2008 2:10 PM EDT
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drinking and driving is a huge deal
but it’s random who gets caught.
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by Sky Kalkman on
Aug 6, 2008 2:10 PM EDT
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right
everyone does it. sometimes its unavoidable. like when you dont want to shell out $30 for a cab ride
by jacksontsmith on
Aug 6, 2008 2:12 PM EDT
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it's avoidable by not drinking
you don’t HAVE to drink. people need more self control and need to prioritize a bit more
honestly, you can draw some parallels between a lack of statistical understanding of baseball and lack of statistical understanding of the dangers of driving drunk.
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by Sky Kalkman on
Aug 6, 2008 2:16 PM EDT
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so you call in the .1% of people
I don’t think you understand the statistical dangerous of drunk driving. I bet the odds of someone getting in a crash while slightly over the legal limit is like 1 in 100,000. Maybe even longer than that.
by matthan on
Aug 6, 2008 2:18 PM EDT
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what's the .1% of people?
people who don’t drink? i just meant you don’t have to drink all the time. when you don’t have another option home, don’t drink.
i bet the odds are lower. but either way, that’s a huge risk. let’s say you drive home just under the legal limit 100 times. that’s a 1 in 100 chance of getting into an accident. let’s say that only 10% are fatal. that’s 1 in 10,000 chance of killing someone.
you’re going to play russian roullette with other people’s lives just so you can’t drink? seriously?
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by Sky Kalkman on
Aug 6, 2008 2:29 PM EDT
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I wouldn't say it is random
It depends on exactly how much you drank and how much you can tolerate. Most guys can drive slightly over the legal limit just as well or nearly as well as what they do stone sober. It is just when they are way over the limit is when some guys hit problems.
Of course what you drive and passengers have something to do with it also. If you are driving a car that is all beat to shit then that makes you a bigger target. Now I don’t mean you need to be driving some pimped out Mercedes, but if you are driving an old car with a window busted in then your chances of a DUI increase dramatically.
by matthan on
Aug 6, 2008 2:13 PM EDT
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true
but at 2 in the morning, cops will pull anyone over on a whim. so it is random.
by jacksontsmith on
Aug 6, 2008 2:14 PM EDT
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well then clearly
the person i was talking to didnt know shit. i doubt its racism. i just think the average tampa bay area sports fan is fuckin retarded. ive heard the same shit in talking about the Bucs.
by jacksontsmith on
Aug 6, 2008 2:02 PM EDT
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The bandwagoners are largely dumbasses.
by R.J. Anderson on
Aug 6, 2008 2:04 PM EDT
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people in this area
dont bother trying to educate themselves on any goings on of tampa sports. instead they drink 12 beers and argue with me and are made to look very stupid.
by jacksontsmith on
Aug 6, 2008 2:04 PM EDT
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why doesn't Barty hit like this when playing the field?
by Her Rays on
Aug 6, 2008 2:04 PM EDT
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to be fair
Barty has killed lefties this year.
by Vin on
Aug 6, 2008 2:05 PM EDT
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Barlett for defense?
great timing on that comment – as he puts a large brace over his finger.
That would be pretty funny – we’d get to see some pitchers hit.
by TallMatt on
Aug 6, 2008 2:04 PM EDT
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I don't agree with having our Ace pitchers starting fires.
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by P Brady on
Aug 6, 2008 2:07 PM EDT
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can someone help me out, i'm not watchin...
have they said if kaz’ arm is hurt? is he not throwing sliders like gameday shows? why?
by pmoc on
Aug 6, 2008 2:09 PM EDT
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if Kaz was throwing anything but all fastballs I would be worried.
by Dbullsfan on
Aug 6, 2008 2:13 PM EDT
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the absence of his primary out pitch
worries me…
by pmoc on
Aug 6, 2008 2:14 PM EDT
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Fuck me.
"STP is me. He can do everything I can do." - R.J. Anderson
by P Brady on
Aug 6, 2008 2:14 PM EDT
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rocco going to be back tomorrow?
also why in the fuck is bj sitting? so what that he didnt run out a pointless grounder, that catch yesterday was amazing and was all hustle, bj is not lazy, his long strides just makes him look lazy. this defense looks like the one that made us the worst defense in the league last year and i never want to see it again! unless in a emergency situation
longo=ROY. friedman=Executive of the year. Maddon=Manager of the year. Rays=WS champs 08! fiddler cat=best way to show your excitement middle name lamar=success, last name lamar=fail, sorry chuck! pause not!
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Aug 6, 2008 2:14 PM EDT
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JAY PEE
"STP is me. He can do everything I can do." - R.J. Anderson
by P Brady on
Aug 6, 2008 2:16 PM EDT
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what the fuck
this is bullshit. why isnt kaz backing up???
by jacksontsmith on
Aug 6, 2008 2:16 PM EDT
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Off goes TV, on goes gameday
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by P Brady on
Aug 6, 2008 2:16 PM EDT
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you cant blame defense.
thats kaz makin mistake after mistake right there
by jacksontsmith on
Aug 6, 2008 2:17 PM EDT
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wow kaz has been our worst starting pitcher lately
i have a chance to trade him for curtis granderson, should i do it?
longo=ROY. friedman=Executive of the year. Maddon=Manager of the year. Rays=WS champs 08! fiddler cat=best way to show your excitement middle name lamar=success, last name lamar=fail, sorry chuck! pause not!
by RaysOfHope on
Aug 6, 2008 2:17 PM EDT
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GOD DOESN’T HATE ANYONE. I WILL ASK YOU TO TAKE THAT BACK. TAKE THAT BACK. TAKE THAT BACK NOW.
LOOK AT THE ROCKIES, THEY ARE GOD’S TEAM, AND THEY WON 20 STRAIGHT UNTIL SOMEONE HATH SINNED. DO YOU THINK THAT’S MAGIC? NO. IT’S GOD. IT’S GOD.
Posted by: Frankie | August 06, 2008 at 02:15 PM
by R.J. Anderson on
Aug 6, 2008 2:18 PM EDT
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Andy "75% of my hits come against the Rays" Marte
Why can’t we get this guy out? He is absolutely horrible
www.raysbb.com
Yes, we really do have fans.
by killa3312 on
Aug 6, 2008 2:19 PM EDT
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Vulture needs his 7th win
It would put him one away from our “ace”
by joeybw on
Aug 6, 2008 2:19 PM EDT
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has kaz just given up or something?
9 = 8
by websterjtc on
Aug 6, 2008 2:19 PM EDT
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speaking of the rockies they have signed their savior livan hernandez
they must be pretty deseperate
longo=ROY. friedman=Executive of the year. Maddon=Manager of the year. Rays=WS champs 08! fiddler cat=best way to show your excitement middle name lamar=success, last name lamar=fail, sorry chuck! pause not!
by RaysOfHope on
Aug 6, 2008 2:20 PM EDT
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wow 2 straight starts
where he couldn’t even get out of the 5th….
by joeybw on
Aug 6, 2008 2:20 PM EDT
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how many starts is that for kaz now where he cant get through the 5th?
longo=ROY. friedman=Executive of the year. Maddon=Manager of the year. Rays=WS champs 08! fiddler cat=best way to show your excitement middle name lamar=success, last name lamar=fail, sorry chuck! pause not!
by RaysOfHope on
Aug 6, 2008 2:21 PM EDT
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and our lineup is extra crappy today
thank god we will be facing a terrible bullpen
by joeybw on
Aug 6, 2008 2:21 PM EDT
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We have the best pinch hitter around.
by R.J. Anderson on
Aug 6, 2008 2:22 PM EDT
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but isnt being punished
Will we use him?
by joeybw on
Aug 6, 2008 2:23 PM EDT
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This sucks
Good thing I didn’t go to this game.
Thundersticks + Kazmir – Upton = very shitty game
by matthan on
Aug 6, 2008 2:21 PM EDT
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Upton gets punished for a useless ground ball
They should punish Kazmir for a month for this inning…..
by joeybw on
Aug 6, 2008 2:22 PM EDT
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I meant the good ones
Upton
Bartlett back to short.
CC
etc.
by Her Rays on
Aug 6, 2008 2:26 PM EDT
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Barty is still hurt, we should let him DH
Although CC to left, Upton to center, Zobrist to right wouldn’t be a bad move. Or Zobrist to short (PH for Aybar)
by matthan on
Aug 6, 2008 2:27 PM EDT
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WTF @ Kazmir???
Why do we make Cleveland looks soo fucking good every damn game????
by Hazleton Jason on
Aug 6, 2008 2:23 PM EDT
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i hope that they bring in rincon and betancourt again today
next time that zobrist is up pinch him for upton, this game is just bad and they should put jesus back into the game to be our savior, i think he learned his lesson by now.
longo=ROY. friedman=Executive of the year. Maddon=Manager of the year. Rays=WS champs 08! fiddler cat=best way to show your excitement middle name lamar=success, last name lamar=fail, sorry chuck! pause not!
by RaysOfHope on
Aug 6, 2008 2:24 PM EDT
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Upton for Gross/Hinske and move Zobrist to the empty spot.
by matthan on
Aug 6, 2008 2:25 PM EDT
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Late in the game you should PH based on L/R matchups
And Zobrist is a switch hitter. Plus you can make an argument he is hitting just as well as Gross/Hinske right now.
by matthan on
Aug 6, 2008 2:26 PM EDT
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I don't wanna be THAT guy
who overreacts but with Kazmir’s big problem with efficiency(still has 1 career CG) can anyone see him being a closer one day?
by joeybw on
Aug 6, 2008 2:24 PM EDT
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JP made it look simple
maybe Kaz feels like a jackass now
by joeybw on
Aug 6, 2008 2:25 PM EDT
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i dont know but he is doing a good job doing his barry zito impression right now
also hinske is just playing like shit the past couple of weeks, i rather have cliff floyd playing instead of him as the DH
longo=ROY. friedman=Executive of the year. Maddon=Manager of the year. Rays=WS champs 08! fiddler cat=best way to show your excitement middle name lamar=success, last name lamar=fail, sorry chuck! pause not!
by RaysOfHope on
Aug 6, 2008 2:27 PM EDT
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I'm going to go switch tvs
Maybe change up the luck
by matthan on
Aug 6, 2008 2:28 PM EDT
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is our OF reallly Hinske - Zobrist - Gross today?
Bartlett needs his hand fully healed NOW so we can get Rocco and let’s get Upton out of the principles office also.
by joeybw on
Aug 6, 2008 2:28 PM EDT
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don't count on it
he may not run out a useless grounder, we just can’t take a risk like that !
by joeybw on
Aug 6, 2008 2:29 PM EDT
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"STP is me. He can do everything I can do." - R.J. Anderson
by P Brady on
Aug 6, 2008 2:30 PM EDT
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2 out nobody on base runner
can we get him in?
Also are CC and Upton available?
Our OF should be CC-Upton-Baldelli not Hinske-Zobrist-Gross…..
by joeybw on
Aug 6, 2008 2:31 PM EDT
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time to move Kaz to the bullpen … seriously, the guy is NOT a starter!
he is an OVERRATED relief pitcher in the wrong spotstaff aces have more than a friggin fastball in their arsenal and they definitely gotta be able to go 6+ innings …. MORE THAN ONCE PER MONTH! he can’t throw his slider right now and he doesn’t trust his changeup, so he’s basically showing up to a gun fight with a pocket knife
odds aint in your favor …
Posted by: Don’t Believe the HYPE | August 06, 2008 at 02:27 PM
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by P Brady on
Aug 6, 2008 2:31 PM EDT
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he is a waste as a MR
but the guy can be a Papelbon type as a closer I think. His pitch count is always rising too damn fast.
by joeybw on
Aug 6, 2008 2:32 PM EDT
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The Heater makes my head hurt.
Sign lady must die.
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Aug 6, 2008 2:33 PM EDT
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enough is enough promote ruggs, activate rocco and dfa gross and aybar
there problems solved, also dfa reyes,miller, hammel and promote price,salas, and niemann and also take kaz’s pipe away until he can make it past the 5ht inning
longo=ROY. friedman=Executive of the year. Maddon=Manager of the year. Rays=WS champs 08! fiddler cat=best way to show your excitement middle name lamar=success, last name lamar=fail, sorry chuck! pause not!
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Aug 6, 2008 2:31 PM EDT
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Floyd and Zobrist*
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by P Brady on
Aug 6, 2008 2:32 PM EDT
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We should kick out PLK for lack of hustle
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by P Brady on
Aug 6, 2008 2:33 PM EDT
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No, he's as white as can be.
Can’t get much more hustle/dirtbag that PLK
by Top Gun Numba 1 on
Aug 6, 2008 2:34 PM EDT
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Ecclisiastic debates on ST Times
GOD DOESN’T HATE ANYONE. I WILL ASK YOU TO TAKE THAT BACK. TAKE THAT BACK. TAKE THAT BACK NOW.LOOK AT THE ROCKIES, THEY ARE GOD’S TEAM, AND THEY WON 20 STRAIGHT UNTIL SOMEONE HATH SINNED. DO YOU THINK THAT’S MAGIC? NO. IT’S GOD. IT’S GOD.
Posted by: Frankie | August 06, 2008 at 02:15 PM
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Aug 6, 2008 2:34 PM EDT
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Already posted
"STP is me. He can do everything I can do." - R.J. Anderson
by P Brady on
Aug 6, 2008 2:35 PM EDT
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since he will swing for it anyway
get a 2 run shot, Pena
by joeybw on
Aug 6, 2008 2:34 PM EDT
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You know its bad when Staats says the P-Word
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Aug 6, 2008 2:35 PM EDT
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HE'S THINKING ABOUT ALL THE WELFARE HE'S GOING TO COLLECT, AM I RITE RYAN?
I’ve been saying this since the beginning of the season, does anyone else look at BJ Upton when he comes up to bat or makes a catch in the outfield and sense that he really doesnt care what happens? It seems like his mind is in another place every game. What’s his deal?Posted by: Ryan | August 06, 2008 at 02:22 PM
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Aug 6, 2008 2:35 PM EDT
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This is so stupid
"STP is me. He can do everything I can do." - R.J. Anderson
by P Brady on
Aug 6, 2008 2:36 PM EDT
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and why does Sowers still look like he is in HS?
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Aug 6, 2008 2:36 PM EDT
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that might have been strike 3
but ill take it. come on Longo
by joeybw on
Aug 6, 2008 2:37 PM EDT
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i have gamecast and gameday up simultaniously...i've never used gamecast before...it's so much better.
9 = 8
by websterjtc on
Aug 6, 2008 2:37 PM EDT
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although. it doesn't have pitch f/x i dont think
9 = 8
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Aug 6, 2008 2:38 PM EDT
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Longo...
"STP is me. He can do everything I can do." - R.J. Anderson
by P Brady on
Aug 6, 2008 2:38 PM EDT
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this umpire sucks
LONGO!!!!!!!!
I am thinking of proposing to him? No hetero
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Aug 6, 2008 2:38 PM EDT
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i love how our team has been in so many shoot outs lately
After all those 2-1 win/losses we kept having. Then again, I should hold out judgment until we face a team that has a pitcher who can throw a strike.
by joeybw on
Aug 6, 2008 2:39 PM EDT
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Riggans/Howell/Kazmir/Upton/Crawford/Jackson = The cool kids
The problem with Kazmir is he hangs out with Crawford, Upton, and Jackson too much.
Posted by: Frankie | August 06, 2008 at 02:35 PM
"STP is me. He can do everything I can do." - R.J. Anderson
by P Brady on
Aug 6, 2008 2:39 PM EDT
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What is that suppost to mean?
Sign lady must die.
by EminenceFront on
Aug 6, 2008 2:41 PM EDT
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well at least we got 1 back
time for our bullpen to be them normal selves. We need a lot of work from JP because no way Balfour or Wheeler are coming in.
Might see Howell for another inning and then Hammel
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Aug 6, 2008 2:41 PM EDT
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I love the Rickie Weeks bashing earlier today
And then he goes 4-4 today
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Aug 6, 2008 2:41 PM EDT
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i love Rickie Weeks
because we didn’t pick him and instead took Young which let to Bartlett and Garza! Now get that velocity up, Morlan.
by joeybw on
Aug 6, 2008 2:42 PM EDT
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Perez doesnt give up runs
he hardly gives up hits
I really do not want to see him today.
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Aug 6, 2008 2:42 PM EDT
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He walks the world
"STP is me. He can do everything I can do." - R.J. Anderson
by P Brady on
Aug 6, 2008 2:43 PM EDT
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No Balfour or Wheeler today I assume
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Aug 6, 2008 2:44 PM EDT
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I am gonna be optimistic and say what it will be if we are winning
6th – Howell
7th and 8th – Hammel
9th – Percy
Maybe 1 batter somewhere will be Miller.
by joeybw on
Aug 6, 2008 2:45 PM EDT
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sounds good to me
Hammel has been a lot better than people give him credit for lately.
by Dbullsfan on
Aug 6, 2008 2:46 PM EDT
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Didnt Hammel throw a lot of pitches Monday?
by td32 on
Aug 6, 2008 2:46 PM EDT
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JP could prob go the 7th
but I don’t know, I remember he came out for a 3rd inning once against the Rangers and gave up a grand slam to that guy, you know the one who took millions from us but never played above AA and is now a star…..whats his name again…
by joeybw on
Aug 6, 2008 2:49 PM EDT
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do you think
we can get Susan Sarandon to talk with Kaz? He’s thinking too much.
by TallMatt on
Aug 6, 2008 2:47 PM EDT
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Is Peralta gonna get the fucking cycle on us?
by joeybw on
Aug 6, 2008 2:48 PM EDT
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Magrane sucks at jokes
"STP is me. He can do everything I can do." - R.J. Anderson
by P Brady on
Aug 6, 2008 2:48 PM EDT
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Did he just mention Dustin Diamond?
Does he not realize the guy is now in porn?
by matthan on
Aug 6, 2008 2:49 PM EDT
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I just hope Price stays on the light side and doesn’t become a malcontent.
Posted by: Frankie | August 06, 2008 at 02:45 PM
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Aug 6, 2008 2:49 PM EDT
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Just about to post that,
I guess “Frankie” thinks DP is a mullato?
by Top Gun Numba 1 on
Aug 6, 2008 2:50 PM EDT
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http://mikeandthemadblog.blogspot.com/2008/08/no-longer-simply-having-to-agree-with.html
mad dog jinxes the rays.
9 = 8
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Aug 6, 2008 2:49 PM EDT
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Didn't he predict we'd still only win 64 games
when we were in first place in June?
Vogt early, Vogt often.
by Brickhaus on
Aug 6, 2008 4:10 PM EDT
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even JP is giving up runs to this fucking team
and since when is Peralta a MVP
by joeybw on
Aug 6, 2008 2:50 PM EDT
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we need a in game trade, Rodney to the Indians
we can just stand there and walk to a win
by joeybw on
Aug 6, 2008 2:51 PM EDT
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GOD.
Kazmir needs to stop striking fellers out. I’d take 7 innings with 3 hits 8 walks and no strikeouts everytime out. IF YOU CAN’T GET HIM OUT JUST WALK HIM. IT WORKS FOR EDWIN.
Posted by: Frankie | August 06, 2008 at 02:51 PM
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Aug 6, 2008 2:52 PM EDT
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that started out bad and got worse exponentially.
9 = 8
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Aug 6, 2008 2:53 PM EDT
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I have a funny feeling in my tummy….
I think I have to POO.Posted by: Jimmy J | August 06, 2008 at 02:51 PM
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Aug 6, 2008 2:53 PM EDT
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Jimmy J then followed that up with
ching chang chong rook at me im a chinamen
by Top Gun Numba 1 on
Aug 6, 2008 2:53 PM EDT
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that man is a genius
edwin has been pitching better than kaz lately
longo=ROY. friedman=Executive of the year. Maddon=Manager of the year. Rays=WS champs 08! fiddler cat=best way to show your excitement middle name lamar=success, last name lamar=fail, sorry chuck! pause not!
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Aug 6, 2008 2:53 PM EDT
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edwin has been pitching much better than kaz
kaz is our worst sp the last couple of weeks
longo=ROY. friedman=Executive of the year. Maddon=Manager of the year. Rays=WS champs 08! fiddler cat=best way to show your excitement middle name lamar=success, last name lamar=fail, sorry chuck! pause not!
by RaysOfHope on
Aug 6, 2008 2:55 PM EDT
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that is like saying that Lindsay Lohan has been looking better than Brittany Spears lately
Neither completely suck, but neither are getting it done either
by Dbullsfan on
Aug 6, 2008 2:55 PM EDT
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is it wrong that I was hoping that it was Peralta who was hurt?
by joeybw on
Aug 6, 2008 2:54 PM EDT
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BRILLIANT.
I agree with Frankie. Strikeouts don’t help you get outs.
Posted by: Lance | August 06, 2008 at 02:54 PM
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and benching jesus doesnt help you win either
longo=ROY. friedman=Executive of the year. Maddon=Manager of the year. Rays=WS champs 08! fiddler cat=best way to show your excitement middle name lamar=success, last name lamar=fail, sorry chuck! pause not!
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Aug 6, 2008 2:56 PM EDT
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I agree with Frankie. Strikeouts don’t help you get outs.
Posted by: Lance | August 06, 2008 at 02:54 PM
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This game reminds me of the last KC home game that we basically tanked on purpose
Then we went on to lose 6 more straight.
by matthan on
Aug 6, 2008 2:56 PM EDT
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their defense looks like my ass
lets take advantage of that please
by joeybw on
Aug 6, 2008 2:56 PM EDT
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i dont like the part that we have to face Shoppach now
But I hope Gonzalez keeps throwing it over Fasano’s head
by joeybw on
Aug 6, 2008 2:58 PM EDT
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I hope we do not lose this game
Cleveland essentially gave it to us benching Sizemore and starting Sowers..
by matthan on
Aug 6, 2008 2:58 PM EDT
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sorry to bring this up rj but is cannizaro on thier roster or in the minors?
and please dont cry
longo=ROY. friedman=Executive of the year. Maddon=Manager of the year. Rays=WS champs 08! fiddler cat=best way to show your excitement middle name lamar=success, last name lamar=fail, sorry chuck! pause not!
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Aug 6, 2008 2:59 PM EDT
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I think we should start Zobrist in CF more. He puts the ball in the field. Upton just walks when was the last time you saw a walk turned into a double?
Posted by: Lance | August 06, 2008 at 02:58 PM
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Aug 6, 2008 2:59 PM EDT
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hit a HR Hinske
get us the run back….again
by joeybw on
Aug 6, 2008 3:01 PM EDT
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well those guys definetly know what their talking about
longo=ROY. friedman=Executive of the year. Maddon=Manager of the year. Rays=WS champs 08! fiddler cat=best way to show your excitement middle name lamar=success, last name lamar=fail, sorry chuck! pause not!
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Aug 6, 2008 3:01 PM EDT
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hinske sucks bring in jesus right now!
longo=ROY. friedman=Executive of the year. Maddon=Manager of the year. Rays=WS champs 08! fiddler cat=best way to show your excitement middle name lamar=success, last name lamar=fail, sorry chuck! pause not!
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Aug 6, 2008 3:02 PM EDT
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fucking Hinske
now lets watch Marte, Gonzalez and Fasano produce a run off of us
by joeybw on
Aug 6, 2008 3:02 PM EDT
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Jerem Sowers is Nasty
Hard to see why he sucks.
by Schmidt on
Aug 6, 2008 3:03 PM EDT
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If you have read any of comments for the past 2 or 3 months, you will note that I have been badmouthing Upton for lack of hustle on a regular basis. What pisses me off is when he called out Aki in public, Aki was the wrong one as Aki hustles all the time and Upton doesn’t. This entire fiasco is nobodys fault but Maddon’s. He should have addressed this at the beginning of the season and put a stop to it then and there with a team meeting so everyone got the word of ZERO tolerance. Fellow fans, if you look at this team right now, we have a couple areas of concern-(1) RF, right handed hitter-we all know that--(2) starting pitching, especially Kazmir. If he is your ace, your stopper, etc. and he is struggling (ON A CONSISTANT BASIS) to get through 5 innings, we have a problem. Today it wasn’t as much the wildness as it was him getting knocked around pretty hard..Something is wrong with this kid, either his mechanics are off or his head is off but something is off. Same thing with our 2nd horse, Shields, whose ERA is climbing..Perhaps too many innings for these youngsters is getting to them? It concerns me and I’m sure Maddon and Friedman are concerned as well. What to do??
Posted by: dick | August 06, 2008 at 03:02 PM
"STP is me. He can do everything I can do." - R.J. Anderson
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Aug 6, 2008 3:03 PM EDT
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prospects for after this season. How will the top of Minnesota’s rankings look with Ben Revere, Shooter Hunt, and Aaron Hicks? Also, which of their prospects has shot up like Blackburn did last year? For Tampa Bay, obviously David Price at #1, then what order do Davis, Hellickson, McGee, and Beckham go in? Who else is in the mix? Cobb, Brignac, Jennings, Niemann, Barnese? Thanks.SportsNation John Manuel : (2:25 PM ET ) Another Twins question . . . Revere & Hunt certainly will be near the top, but don’t forget C Wilson Ramos. He ranked third on our list coming into the year, is Best Defensive C in the FSL and has 12 homers and a .764 OPS as a 20-year-old in the FSL this year. He’s a front-line starting catcher prospect. Could be No. 1 or No. 2 for me, with Revere right there as well. Slama has established himself as for real this year (he ranked 28th entering the year) and LHP Jose Lugo is starting to pop up as an arm strength guy. Forthe Rays . . . McGee obviously falls some with his surgery, and Jennings takes a knock for missing the bulk of the year. Justin Ruggiano might be in their top 10, as would Reid Brignac, who can really defend. You left out Heath Rollins, who also is on the fringe of their top 10 and might rank ahead of Cobb, he’s a really cerebral, athletic pitcher who gets the most out of average stuff.
9 = 8
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Aug 6, 2008 3:04 PM EDT
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IF we actually come back against this amazing pitching
We might go Reyes – Percival for the final 2 innings. Needs more Hammel. Yes, I said that.
by joeybw on
Aug 6, 2008 3:06 PM EDT
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i hope that the rays dont resign hinske after this season
right now he is just shit
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Aug 6, 2008 3:07 PM EDT
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i hope howell's arm doesn't fall off. no matter how light he throws
9 = 8
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Aug 6, 2008 3:09 PM EDT
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If you throw a pin at that blow-up Raymond thing
would you poke the person inside?
by Her Rays on
Aug 6, 2008 3:13 PM EDT
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i hope we see his lazy ass just trot around the bases after he hits a HR
longo=ROY. friedman=Executive of the year. Maddon=Manager of the year. Rays=WS champs 08! fiddler cat=best way to show your excitement middle name lamar=success, last name lamar=fail, sorry chuck! pause not!
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