GDT Pt. 2
by R.J. Anderson on Aug 6, 2008 1:52 PM EDT
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Hahaha, which one of you is this:
Seems to be a common theme with some of these players (Edwin, Crawford, Upton, Aybar, Floyd) I just don’t get them. I love watching Ben Zobrist play though, always good to see a fellow southern catholic succeed!Posted by: Frankie | August 06, 2008 at 01:50 PM
Someone told me
That Upton was gonna be gone after this year, or maybe next year. whenever his contract is up, because he doesnt want to be here. I disagreed, but why is everyone so down on BJ?
same reason dumb-shit boston fans don't like JD Drew...
by Vin on Aug 6, 2008 2:01 PM EDT up reply actions
like?
All I ever hear about is his “lack of passion”
by Vin on Aug 6, 2008 2:03 PM EDT up reply actions
JD
Not signing and playing for Philly started people disliking him.
How he has often followed up good seasons with terrible one’s is another reason.
His first year in Boston, after signing for $70M, would be a good example.
plenty of good reasons
screwing the team that drafted you = valid
being fragile = valid
posting OPS+ of 105 while earning large money = valid
being a Seminole “grad” = valid
3 of 4
Could arguably be reasons to hate Rocco. Hating a player for using their leverage to get the right dollars or ‘fit’ is a stupid reason to hate a player. Do you also think that doctors should not be allowed to pick their hospital, that teachers should just randomly be assigned at the state level? Baseball has a very anti-competitive system for labor, and we shouldn’t boo the players who stand up for themselves and their families.
by GomesSweetGomes on Aug 6, 2008 5:04 PM EDT up reply actions
define terrible
he had a 105 OPS+ last year
and would people be more happy if Drew’s had all 125 OPS+ seasons instead of alternating them with 160 OPS+ seasons?
does not observing passion matter if a player’s producing? does observing passion matter if the player sucks?
my blog // calling BJ Upton lazy is lazy // past results do not guarantee future performance
Wasn't that the deal with Grieve as well?
by R.J. Anderson on Aug 6, 2008 2:06 PM EDT up reply actions
I never really got the hate on him.
He was average or above each season here. You would think the haters would focus on someone else, it’s not as if they didn’t have a ton of bad choices.
by R.J. Anderson on Aug 6, 2008 2:12 PM EDT up reply actions
Ben Grieve's bum rib
A random, reoccurring injury that kept him out for decent chunks at a time.
That’s why most people don’t like him… He seemed like kind of a pansy.
by Vin on Aug 6, 2008 2:14 PM EDT up reply actions
BJ has been unfairly lumped in with Delmon and Elijah
So every little mistake he makes, which even the best and loved MLB players make, is severely magnified.
I have heard a lot of that
Doesnt make a lot of sense to me.
by jacksontsmith on Aug 6, 2008 2:02 PM EDT up reply actions
He's the guy who wanted to kill Delmon after the bat throwing incident.
The problems last year were Delmon/Dukes. Upton hangs with Crawford/Edwin as it is.
by R.J. Anderson on Aug 6, 2008 2:03 PM EDT up reply actions
I remember when he got his DUI up here in Durham a few years back and it got thrown in the mix
with the bat tossing of Young and all of Dukes’ problems. Of course in the fine print it said like he had the equvilant of 1/2 a can of beer over the legal limit and the whole situation was odd (with getting pulled). He has never really been a part of that group other than being black and talented.
DUIs really aren't a big deal
I know i’m going to get bitched at for saying it, but it isn’t that bad of a mark on character. It happens especially with the extremely low legal limits these days
yea, JJ Reddick got one around the same time, but was given a free pass
It didn’t suprise me here in North Carolina but in Florida, you would think the problem would be a little less.
I think 99.9 percent of males in their early 20's drive over the legal limit at some point
It is just a question of who gets caught and who doesn’t.
not that I'm proud but I know I have.
most people that go to a bar to watch a game usually have mroe than 3 drinks and that would put you over the limit
drinking and driving is a huge deal
but it’s random who gets caught.
my blog // calling BJ Upton lazy is lazy // past results do not guarantee future performance
right
everyone does it. sometimes its unavoidable. like when you dont want to shell out $30 for a cab ride
by jacksontsmith on Aug 6, 2008 2:12 PM EDT up reply actions
it's avoidable by not drinking
you don’t HAVE to drink. people need more self control and need to prioritize a bit more
honestly, you can draw some parallels between a lack of statistical understanding of baseball and lack of statistical understanding of the dangers of driving drunk.
my blog // calling BJ Upton lazy is lazy // past results do not guarantee future performance
so you call in the .1% of people
I don’t think you understand the statistical dangerous of drunk driving. I bet the odds of someone getting in a crash while slightly over the legal limit is like 1 in 100,000. Maybe even longer than that.
what's the .1% of people?
people who don’t drink? i just meant you don’t have to drink all the time. when you don’t have another option home, don’t drink.
i bet the odds are lower. but either way, that’s a huge risk. let’s say you drive home just under the legal limit 100 times. that’s a 1 in 100 chance of getting into an accident. let’s say that only 10% are fatal. that’s 1 in 10,000 chance of killing someone.
you’re going to play russian roullette with other people’s lives just so you can’t drink? seriously?
my blog // calling BJ Upton lazy is lazy // past results do not guarantee future performance
I wouldn't say it is random
It depends on exactly how much you drank and how much you can tolerate. Most guys can drive slightly over the legal limit just as well or nearly as well as what they do stone sober. It is just when they are way over the limit is when some guys hit problems.
Of course what you drive and passengers have something to do with it also. If you are driving a car that is all beat to shit then that makes you a bigger target. Now I don’t mean you need to be driving some pimped out Mercedes, but if you are driving an old car with a window busted in then your chances of a DUI increase dramatically.
true
but at 2 in the morning, cops will pull anyone over on a whim. so it is random.
by jacksontsmith on Aug 6, 2008 2:14 PM EDT up reply actions
well then clearly
the person i was talking to didnt know shit. i doubt its racism. i just think the average tampa bay area sports fan is fuckin retarded. ive heard the same shit in talking about the Bucs.
The bandwagoners are largely dumbasses.
by R.J. Anderson on Aug 6, 2008 2:04 PM EDT up reply actions
people in this area
dont bother trying to educate themselves on any goings on of tampa sports. instead they drink 12 beers and argue with me and are made to look very stupid.
by jacksontsmith on Aug 6, 2008 2:04 PM EDT up reply actions
Barlett for defense?
great timing on that comment – as he puts a large brace over his finger.
That would be pretty funny – we’d get to see some pitchers hit.
I don't agree with having our Ace pitchers starting fires.
"STP is me. He can do everything I can do." - R.J. Anderson
can someone help me out, i'm not watchin...
have they said if kaz’ arm is hurt? is he not throwing sliders like gameday shows? why?
rocco going to be back tomorrow?
also why in the fuck is bj sitting? so what that he didnt run out a pointless grounder, that catch yesterday was amazing and was all hustle, bj is not lazy, his long strides just makes him look lazy. this defense looks like the one that made us the worst defense in the league last year and i never want to see it again! unless in a emergency situation
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wow kaz has been our worst starting pitcher lately
i have a chance to trade him for curtis granderson, should i do it?
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Andy "75% of my hits come against the Rays" Marte
Why can’t we get this guy out? He is absolutely horrible
www.raysbb.com
Yes, we really do have fans.
speaking of the rockies they have signed their savior livan hernandez
they must be pretty deseperate
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how many starts is that for kaz now where he cant get through the 5th?
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This sucks
Good thing I didn’t go to this game.
Thundersticks + Kazmir – Upton = very shitty game
Upton gets punished for a useless ground ball
They should punish Kazmir for a month for this inning…..
Barty is still hurt, we should let him DH
Although CC to left, Upton to center, Zobrist to right wouldn’t be a bad move. Or Zobrist to short (PH for Aybar)
WTF @ Kazmir???
Why do we make Cleveland looks soo fucking good every damn game????
i hope that they bring in rincon and betancourt again today
next time that zobrist is up pinch him for upton, this game is just bad and they should put jesus back into the game to be our savior, i think he learned his lesson by now.
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Late in the game you should PH based on L/R matchups
And Zobrist is a switch hitter. Plus you can make an argument he is hitting just as well as Gross/Hinske right now.
I don't wanna be THAT guy
who overreacts but with Kazmir’s big problem with efficiency(still has 1 career CG) can anyone see him being a closer one day?
i dont know but he is doing a good job doing his barry zito impression right now
also hinske is just playing like shit the past couple of weeks, i rather have cliff floyd playing instead of him as the DH
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I'm going to go switch tvs
Maybe change up the luck
is our OF reallly Hinske - Zobrist - Gross today?
Bartlett needs his hand fully healed NOW so we can get Rocco and let’s get Upton out of the principles office also.
2 out nobody on base runner
can we get him in?
Also are CC and Upton available?
Our OF should be CC-Upton-Baldelli not Hinske-Zobrist-Gross…..
time to move Kaz to the bullpen … seriously, the guy is NOT a starter!
he is an OVERRATED relief pitcher in the wrong spotstaff aces have more than a friggin fastball in their arsenal and they definitely gotta be able to go 6+ innings …. MORE THAN ONCE PER MONTH! he can’t throw his slider right now and he doesn’t trust his changeup, so he’s basically showing up to a gun fight with a pocket knife
odds aint in your favor …
Posted by: Don’t Believe the HYPE | August 06, 2008 at 02:27 PM
"STP is me. He can do everything I can do." - R.J. Anderson
he is a waste as a MR
but the guy can be a Papelbon type as a closer I think. His pitch count is always rising too damn fast.
The Heater makes my head hurt.
Sign lady must die.
by EminenceFront on Aug 6, 2008 2:33 PM EDT up reply actions
enough is enough promote ruggs, activate rocco and dfa gross and aybar
there problems solved, also dfa reyes,miller, hammel and promote price,salas, and niemann and also take kaz’s pipe away until he can make it past the 5ht inning
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We should kick out PLK for lack of hustle
"STP is me. He can do everything I can do." - R.J. Anderson
No, he's as white as can be.
Can’t get much more hustle/dirtbag that PLK
by Top Gun Numba 1 on Aug 6, 2008 2:34 PM EDT up reply actions
Ecclisiastic debates on ST Times
GOD DOESN’T HATE ANYONE. I WILL ASK YOU TO TAKE THAT BACK. TAKE THAT BACK. TAKE THAT BACK NOW.LOOK AT THE ROCKIES, THEY ARE GOD’S TEAM, AND THEY WON 20 STRAIGHT UNTIL SOMEONE HATH SINNED. DO YOU THINK THAT’S MAGIC? NO. IT’S GOD. IT’S GOD.
Posted by: Frankie | August 06, 2008 at 02:15 PM
You know its bad when Staats says the P-Word
"STP is me. He can do everything I can do." - R.J. Anderson
HE'S THINKING ABOUT ALL THE WELFARE HE'S GOING TO COLLECT, AM I RITE RYAN?
I’ve been saying this since the beginning of the season, does anyone else look at BJ Upton when he comes up to bat or makes a catch in the outfield and sense that he really doesnt care what happens? It seems like his mind is in another place every game. What’s his deal?Posted by: Ryan | August 06, 2008 at 02:22 PM
i love how our team has been in so many shoot outs lately
After all those 2-1 win/losses we kept having. Then again, I should hold out judgment until we face a team that has a pitcher who can throw a strike.
Riggans/Howell/Kazmir/Upton/Crawford/Jackson = The cool kids
The problem with Kazmir is he hangs out with Crawford, Upton, and Jackson too much.
Posted by: Frankie | August 06, 2008 at 02:35 PM
"STP is me. He can do everything I can do." - R.J. Anderson
What is that suppost to mean?
Sign lady must die.
by EminenceFront on Aug 6, 2008 2:41 PM EDT up reply actions
well at least we got 1 back
time for our bullpen to be them normal selves. We need a lot of work from JP because no way Balfour or Wheeler are coming in.
Might see Howell for another inning and then Hammel
I love the Rickie Weeks bashing earlier today
And then he goes 4-4 today
i love Rickie Weeks
because we didn’t pick him and instead took Young which let to Bartlett and Garza! Now get that velocity up, Morlan.
I am gonna be optimistic and say what it will be if we are winning
6th – Howell
7th and 8th – Hammel
9th – Percy
Maybe 1 batter somewhere will be Miller.
JP could prob go the 7th
but I don’t know, I remember he came out for a 3rd inning once against the Rangers and gave up a grand slam to that guy, you know the one who took millions from us but never played above AA and is now a star…..whats his name again…
do you think
we can get Susan Sarandon to talk with Kaz? He’s thinking too much.
I just hope Price stays on the light side and doesn’t become a malcontent.
Posted by: Frankie | August 06, 2008 at 02:45 PM
Just about to post that,
I guess “Frankie” thinks DP is a mullato?
by Top Gun Numba 1 on Aug 6, 2008 2:50 PM EDT up reply actions
http://mikeandthemadblog.blogspot.com/2008/08/no-longer-simply-having-to-agree-with.html
mad dog jinxes the rays.
9 = 8
Didn't he predict we'd still only win 64 games
when we were in first place in June?
Vogt early, Vogt often.
GOD.
Kazmir needs to stop striking fellers out. I’d take 7 innings with 3 hits 8 walks and no strikeouts everytime out. IF YOU CAN’T GET HIM OUT JUST WALK HIM. IT WORKS FOR EDWIN.
Posted by: Frankie | August 06, 2008 at 02:51 PM
I have a funny feeling in my tummy….
I think I have to POO.Posted by: Jimmy J | August 06, 2008 at 02:51 PM
Jimmy J then followed that up with
ching chang chong rook at me im a chinamen
by Top Gun Numba 1 on Aug 6, 2008 2:53 PM EDT up reply actions
that man is a genius
edwin has been pitching better than kaz lately
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edwin has been pitching much better than kaz
kaz is our worst sp the last couple of weeks
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that is like saying that Lindsay Lohan has been looking better than Brittany Spears lately
Neither completely suck, but neither are getting it done either
BRILLIANT.
I agree with Frankie. Strikeouts don’t help you get outs.
Posted by: Lance | August 06, 2008 at 02:54 PM
and benching jesus doesnt help you win either
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This game reminds me of the last KC home game that we basically tanked on purpose
Then we went on to lose 6 more straight.
i dont like the part that we have to face Shoppach now
But I hope Gonzalez keeps throwing it over Fasano’s head
I hope we do not lose this game
Cleveland essentially gave it to us benching Sizemore and starting Sowers..
sorry to bring this up rj but is cannizaro on thier roster or in the minors?
and please dont cry
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I think we should start Zobrist in CF more. He puts the ball in the field. Upton just walks when was the last time you saw a walk turned into a double?
Posted by: Lance | August 06, 2008 at 02:58 PM
well those guys definetly know what their talking about
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hinske sucks bring in jesus right now!
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If you have read any of comments for the past 2 or 3 months, you will note that I have been badmouthing Upton for lack of hustle on a regular basis. What pisses me off is when he called out Aki in public, Aki was the wrong one as Aki hustles all the time and Upton doesn’t. This entire fiasco is nobodys fault but Maddon’s. He should have addressed this at the beginning of the season and put a stop to it then and there with a team meeting so everyone got the word of ZERO tolerance. Fellow fans, if you look at this team right now, we have a couple areas of concern-(1) RF, right handed hitter-we all know that--(2) starting pitching, especially Kazmir. If he is your ace, your stopper, etc. and he is struggling (ON A CONSISTANT BASIS) to get through 5 innings, we have a problem. Today it wasn’t as much the wildness as it was him getting knocked around pretty hard..Something is wrong with this kid, either his mechanics are off or his head is off but something is off. Same thing with our 2nd horse, Shields, whose ERA is climbing..Perhaps too many innings for these youngsters is getting to them? It concerns me and I’m sure Maddon and Friedman are concerned as well. What to do??
Posted by: dick | August 06, 2008 at 03:02 PM
"STP is me. He can do everything I can do." - R.J. Anderson
prospects for after this season. How will the top of Minnesota’s rankings look with Ben Revere, Shooter Hunt, and Aaron Hicks? Also, which of their prospects has shot up like Blackburn did last year? For Tampa Bay, obviously David Price at #1, then what order do Davis, Hellickson, McGee, and Beckham go in? Who else is in the mix? Cobb, Brignac, Jennings, Niemann, Barnese? Thanks.SportsNation John Manuel : (2:25 PM ET ) Another Twins question . . . Revere & Hunt certainly will be near the top, but don’t forget C Wilson Ramos. He ranked third on our list coming into the year, is Best Defensive C in the FSL and has 12 homers and a .764 OPS as a 20-year-old in the FSL this year. He’s a front-line starting catcher prospect. Could be No. 1 or No. 2 for me, with Revere right there as well. Slama has established himself as for real this year (he ranked 28th entering the year) and LHP Jose Lugo is starting to pop up as an arm strength guy. Forthe Rays . . . McGee obviously falls some with his surgery, and Jennings takes a knock for missing the bulk of the year. Justin Ruggiano might be in their top 10, as would Reid Brignac, who can really defend. You left out Heath Rollins, who also is on the fringe of their top 10 and might rank ahead of Cobb, he’s a really cerebral, athletic pitcher who gets the most out of average stuff.
9 = 8
IF we actually come back against this amazing pitching
We might go Reyes – Percival for the final 2 innings. Needs more Hammel. Yes, I said that.
i hope that the rays dont resign hinske after this season
right now he is just shit
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i hope we see his lazy ass just trot around the bases after he hits a HR
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wow pefect situation to put in the bossman and they blow it! rays deserve to lose this game the way this lineup is and the upton benching
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maddon should be fined 1$ for pulling a devil rays move with this lineup and benching upton!
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ya this game is still within reach but they have to put upton back in next zobrist AB
i think that he will but i thought that he shouldve put him in during his last AB
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who is cleveland going to bring into the 9th? i hope for rincon or betancourt
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i know! how cant we beat this team? even at home! just doesnt make sense to me
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Nobody left in the bullpen
They’re all spent from the starters not getting deep into games.
ya no shit
we are makeing cleveland look like the team that is fighting for a playoff spot, next we have to play seattle and they have been playing well lately too, i hope that rocco is back tomorrow and aybar is gone
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im watching on gameday, is someone warming up for cleveland?
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Mujica was
Last inning, not sure if he still is,
Turn out the lights the Party is over...
Another run on a passed ball … That was insurance its done.
by PewterPirate55 on Aug 6, 2008 3:48 PM EDT up reply actions
wow percy sucks! i wish he only signed him for 1 year instead of 2!
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it shouldnt be such a relief that we are done with the Indians
We either pull a miracle or wind up 1-6 against them. I hope we can beat Seattle…..
I dont think we are done with them I think they just got done with us.
There is a difference subtely.
by PewterPirate55 on Aug 6, 2008 3:52 PM EDT up reply actions
per Rotoworld
Jason Bartlett (finger) is back in the Rays’ lineup Wednesday at designated hitter.
Even the Mariners laugh at a DH with a sore finger and 602 OPS. Even better, Bartlett is batting seventh, with Eric Hinske and Gabe Gross below him in the lineup.
by Vin on Aug 6, 2008 3:54 PM EDT up reply actions
That wild pitch/passed ball
Looks like it will come back and haunt us.
3 more runs plz
game isnt over yet! they better let upton hit if comes down to zobrist hitting
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with the 2 lineups today
how are there 14 runs scored already?
WHat a bomb. I'm watching on my cell phone at work.
I knocked my water onto my keyboard trying to log onto draysbay
caption clutch!
is bj on deck?
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wow how isnt bj not up right now
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it looks like an autistic kid scribbled with crayons
Sign lady must die.
by EminenceFront on Aug 6, 2008 4:04 PM EDT up reply actions
gross
Gross still has no idea what happened there
PPPPPEEEEEEEENNNNNNNNAAAAAAAAA
WOOOOOOOOOOOOWOWOWOWOWOOWOWOWOWOORJfW(EBtpOIBBOWUHEs
Sign lady must die.
Zobrist and Gross in lineup = goodness
Apparently
FIDDLECATS TO BATTLESTATIONS
FIDDLECATS TO BATTLESTATIONS
FIDDLECATS TO BATTLESTATIONS
FIDDLECATS TO BATTLESTATIONS
FIDDLECATS TO BATTLESTATIONS
FIDDLECATS TO BATTLESTATIONS
FIDDLECATS TO BATTLESTATIONS
Sign lady must die.
wow what a game!
PENA and GROSS share MVP in this one!!!!! caption clutch tied it and pena won it
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jesus
our starting OF was Hinske – Zobrist – Gross, Aybar at SS and we couldnt use Aussie or Wheeler and we…..WON
someone put the fiddler cat up here now!!
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I'll bet
there are some pissed people that left early today
OMFG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I love this team!
The line it is drawn/The curse it is cast/The slow one now/Will later be fast/ As the present now/Will later be past/The order is/Rapidly fadin'./And the first one now/Will later be last/For the times they are a-changin'..- Bob Dylan
by thebaddancingraysfan on Aug 6, 2008 4:10 PM EDT reply actions
watched that movie last night lol, someone put the fiddler up now plz!
longo=ROY. friedman=Executive of the year. Maddon=Manager of the year. Rays=WS champs 08! fiddler cat=best way to show your excitement middle name lamar=success, last name lamar=fail, sorry chuck! pause not!
Wrong on so many levels
From the ESPN comments:
Yeah, that kind of attitude isn’t going to fly down here. We (Tampa) have the deepest farm system in the game and he’s tradeable as being a decent hitter and great outfielder and one of the best base stealers in the game. I can’t see him being here next year…trade him to the Nats, he can go play with Young and see how it feels to lose again, maybe that will motivate him to run 90 feet for millions of dollars!!GO RAYS!!
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Yeah ... that is going to help come contract time.
Put him on blast for not running something out. Couldn’t they privately discipline but publicly give him a day off for something else. All this did was feed the fire about him. I can hear it now radio hosts saying ” Maddon agrees with me that he is lazy, why else did he sit him one game for not running out a play?” Please clean house in private management. Just my opinion, I could be wrong have been known to be wrong before, could be wrong now. But I don’t think I am.
by PewterPirate55 on Aug 6, 2008 4:43 PM EDT up reply actions
read his quote closely, trade him to the Nats so he can play with Young??
I am pretty sure this guy never lifted an eyebrow to the Rays untill a month ago and has most likely only seen the Rays play 10 times max.
I know ...
But don’t give the bandwagoners fuel for their fire. It has started to become about BJ hate with them. I read ESPN’s story. According to them Maddon had a meeting with the team after a game with KC about running balls out. I know the exact play it was referring to because I remember it sticking out in my mind. Upton batting after Aki, Aki gets to second on a double play ball safely because of hustle and a bobble by the second baseman. BJ gets beat by two steps at first because he didn’t hustle out of the box. I said all that to say this. After that amazing play in center field last night, he could have turned a page with the fans. That is why you bench him privately, but give him the day off publicly. Allow the fans to revel in his accomplishments with him don’t allow them to see the discipline that will turn the fans against him.
by PewterPirate55 on Aug 6, 2008 5:30 PM EDT up reply actions
Doubt this is the first time BJ's heard about it
I’m betting he’s heard it “in private” a time or ten. He certainly heard it in private (in general, non-finger-pointing terms to the team) a couple of weeks ago. That didn’t work, so Joe took it public with the benching. A 10 run day made Joe’s point well. And for the record, EVERY player who dogs it should sit. Wedge rightfully did it with Garko today… not like Joe’s out on an island on this one.
And I’m a fan of guys who can cover sick ground in the OF and carry a .380 OBP. But a point had to be made (BJ is not the only offender) and hopefully it was. Maybe his “I just work here” response was just heat of the moment and not a measure of his character and ability to respond to appropriate discipline.
Was at the game, it was more awesome live
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