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Meh

"STP is me. He can do everything I can do." - R.J. Anderson

by P Brady on Aug 6, 2008 1:55 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I just wish we had Mike Defiliece up

I would love to see the great Fasano/Defilice match up

by Dbullsfan on Aug 6, 2008 1:56 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Hahaha, which one of you is this:

Seems to be a common theme with some of these players (Edwin, Crawford, Upton, Aybar, Floyd) I just don’t get them. I love watching Ben Zobrist play though, always good to see a fellow southern catholic succeed!

Posted by: Frankie | August 06, 2008 at 01:50 PM

by Top Gun Numba 1 on Aug 6, 2008 1:58 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

So stupid it has to be real.

"STP is me. He can do everything I can do." - R.J. Anderson

by P Brady on Aug 6, 2008 1:59 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Someone told me

That Upton was gonna be gone after this year, or maybe next year. whenever his contract is up, because he doesnt want to be here. I disagreed, but why is everyone so down on BJ?

by jacksontsmith on Aug 6, 2008 1:59 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

like?

All I ever hear about is his “lack of passion”

by Vin on Aug 6, 2008 2:03 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

JD

Not signing and playing for Philly started people disliking him.

How he has often followed up good seasons with terrible one’s is another reason.

His first year in Boston, after signing for $70M, would be a good example.

by TallMatt on Aug 6, 2008 2:06 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

plenty of good reasons

screwing the team that drafted you = valid
being fragile = valid
posting OPS+ of 105 while earning large money = valid
being a Seminole “grad” = valid

by gatorman2k2 on Aug 6, 2008 3:52 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

3 of 4

Could arguably be reasons to hate Rocco. Hating a player for using their leverage to get the right dollars or ‘fit’ is a stupid reason to hate a player. Do you also think that doctors should not be allowed to pick their hospital, that teachers should just randomly be assigned at the state level? Baseball has a very anti-competitive system for labor, and we shouldn’t boo the players who stand up for themselves and their families.

by GomesSweetGomes on Aug 6, 2008 5:04 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

define terrible

he had a 105 OPS+ last year

and would people be more happy if Drew’s had all 125 OPS+ seasons instead of alternating them with 160 OPS+ seasons?

does not observing passion matter if a player’s producing? does observing passion matter if the player sucks?

my blog // calling BJ Upton lazy is lazy // past results do not guarantee future performance

by Sky Kalkman on Aug 6, 2008 2:10 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I never really got the hate on him.

He was average or above each season here. You would think the haters would focus on someone else, it’s not as if they didn’t have a ton of bad choices.

by R.J. Anderson on Aug 6, 2008 2:12 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Ben Grieve's bum rib

A random, reoccurring injury that kept him out for decent chunks at a time.

That’s why most people don’t like him… He seemed like kind of a pansy.

by Vin on Aug 6, 2008 2:14 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

BJ has been unfairly lumped in with Delmon and Elijah

So every little mistake he makes, which even the best and loved MLB players make, is severely magnified.

by matthan on Aug 6, 2008 2:02 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I have heard a lot of that

Doesnt make a lot of sense to me.

by jacksontsmith on Aug 6, 2008 2:02 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I remember when he got his DUI up here in Durham a few years back and it got thrown in the mix

with the bat tossing of Young and all of Dukes’ problems. Of course in the fine print it said like he had the equvilant of 1/2 a can of beer over the legal limit and the whole situation was odd (with getting pulled). He has never really been a part of that group other than being black and talented.

by Dbullsfan on Aug 6, 2008 2:05 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

DUIs really aren't a big deal

I know i’m going to get bitched at for saying it, but it isn’t that bad of a mark on character. It happens especially with the extremely low legal limits these days

by matthan on Aug 6, 2008 2:06 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

yea, JJ Reddick got one around the same time, but was given a free pass

It didn’t suprise me here in North Carolina but in Florida, you would think the problem would be a little less.

by Dbullsfan on Aug 6, 2008 2:08 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

not that I'm proud but I know I have.

most people that go to a bar to watch a game usually have mroe than 3 drinks and that would put you over the limit

by Dbullsfan on Aug 6, 2008 2:10 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

drinking and driving is a huge deal

but it’s random who gets caught.

my blog // calling BJ Upton lazy is lazy // past results do not guarantee future performance

by Sky Kalkman on Aug 6, 2008 2:10 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

right

everyone does it. sometimes its unavoidable. like when you dont want to shell out $30 for a cab ride

by jacksontsmith on Aug 6, 2008 2:12 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

it's avoidable by not drinking

you don’t HAVE to drink. people need more self control and need to prioritize a bit more

honestly, you can draw some parallels between a lack of statistical understanding of baseball and lack of statistical understanding of the dangers of driving drunk.

my blog // calling BJ Upton lazy is lazy // past results do not guarantee future performance

by Sky Kalkman on Aug 6, 2008 2:16 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

so you call in the .1% of people

I don’t think you understand the statistical dangerous of drunk driving. I bet the odds of someone getting in a crash while slightly over the legal limit is like 1 in 100,000. Maybe even longer than that.

by matthan on Aug 6, 2008 2:18 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

what's the .1% of people?

people who don’t drink? i just meant you don’t have to drink all the time. when you don’t have another option home, don’t drink.

i bet the odds are lower. but either way, that’s a huge risk. let’s say you drive home just under the legal limit 100 times. that’s a 1 in 100 chance of getting into an accident. let’s say that only 10% are fatal. that’s 1 in 10,000 chance of killing someone.

you’re going to play russian roullette with other people’s lives just so you can’t drink? seriously?

my blog // calling BJ Upton lazy is lazy // past results do not guarantee future performance

by Sky Kalkman on Aug 6, 2008 2:29 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I wouldn't say it is random

It depends on exactly how much you drank and how much you can tolerate. Most guys can drive slightly over the legal limit just as well or nearly as well as what they do stone sober. It is just when they are way over the limit is when some guys hit problems.

Of course what you drive and passengers have something to do with it also. If you are driving a car that is all beat to shit then that makes you a bigger target. Now I don’t mean you need to be driving some pimped out Mercedes, but if you are driving an old car with a window busted in then your chances of a DUI increase dramatically.

by matthan on Aug 6, 2008 2:13 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

true

but at 2 in the morning, cops will pull anyone over on a whim. so it is random.

by jacksontsmith on Aug 6, 2008 2:14 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

well then clearly

the person i was talking to didnt know shit. i doubt its racism. i just think the average tampa bay area sports fan is fuckin retarded. ive heard the same shit in talking about the Bucs.

by jacksontsmith on Aug 6, 2008 2:02 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

people in this area

dont bother trying to educate themselves on any goings on of tampa sports. instead they drink 12 beers and argue with me and are made to look very stupid.

by jacksontsmith on Aug 6, 2008 2:04 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Barlett for defense?

great timing on that comment – as he puts a large brace over his finger.

That would be pretty funny – we’d get to see some pitchers hit.

by TallMatt on Aug 6, 2008 2:04 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Fuck me.

"STP is me. He can do everything I can do." - R.J. Anderson

by P Brady on Aug 6, 2008 2:14 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

rocco going to be back tomorrow?

also why in the fuck is bj sitting? so what that he didnt run out a pointless grounder, that catch yesterday was amazing and was all hustle, bj is not lazy, his long strides just makes him look lazy. this defense looks like the one that made us the worst defense in the league last year and i never want to see it again! unless in a emergency situation

longo=ROY. friedman=Executive of the year. Maddon=Manager of the year. Rays=WS champs 08! fiddler cat=best way to show your excitement middle name lamar=success, last name lamar=fail, sorry chuck! pause not!

by RaysOfHope on Aug 6, 2008 2:14 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

JAY PEE

"STP is me. He can do everything I can do." - R.J. Anderson

by P Brady on Aug 6, 2008 2:16 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

what the fuck

this is bullshit. why isnt kaz backing up???

by jacksontsmith on Aug 6, 2008 2:16 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Off goes TV, on goes gameday

"STP is me. He can do everything I can do." - R.J. Anderson

by P Brady on Aug 6, 2008 2:16 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

you cant blame defense.

thats kaz makin mistake after mistake right there

by jacksontsmith on Aug 6, 2008 2:17 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

wow kaz has been our worst starting pitcher lately

i have a chance to trade him for curtis granderson, should i do it?

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by RaysOfHope on Aug 6, 2008 2:17 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

GOD DOESN’T HATE ANYONE. I WILL ASK YOU TO TAKE THAT BACK. TAKE THAT BACK. TAKE THAT BACK NOW.

LOOK AT THE ROCKIES, THEY ARE GOD’S TEAM, AND THEY WON 20 STRAIGHT UNTIL SOMEONE HATH SINNED. DO YOU THINK THAT’S MAGIC? NO. IT’S GOD. IT’S GOD.

Posted by: Frankie | August 06, 2008 at 02:15 PM

by R.J. Anderson on Aug 6, 2008 2:18 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Andy "75% of my hits come against the Rays" Marte

Why can’t we get this guy out? He is absolutely horrible

www.raysbb.com

Yes, we really do have fans.

by killa3312 on Aug 6, 2008 2:19 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Vulture needs his 7th win

It would put him one away from our “ace”

by joeybw on Aug 6, 2008 2:19 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

speaking of the rockies they have signed their savior livan hernandez

they must be pretty deseperate

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by RaysOfHope on Aug 6, 2008 2:20 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

wow 2 straight starts

where he couldn’t even get out of the 5th….

by joeybw on Aug 6, 2008 2:20 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

how many starts is that for kaz now where he cant get through the 5th?

longo=ROY. friedman=Executive of the year. Maddon=Manager of the year. Rays=WS champs 08! fiddler cat=best way to show your excitement middle name lamar=success, last name lamar=fail, sorry chuck! pause not!

by RaysOfHope on Aug 6, 2008 2:21 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

and our lineup is extra crappy today

thank god we will be facing a terrible bullpen

by joeybw on Aug 6, 2008 2:21 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Yes

I’ll be shocked if he doesn’t PH for Gross or Hinske at some point. Maddon knows his point has been made.

by matthan on Aug 6, 2008 2:23 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

This sucks

Good thing I didn’t go to this game.

Thundersticks + Kazmir – Upton = very shitty game

by matthan on Aug 6, 2008 2:21 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

WTF @ Kazmir???

Why do we make Cleveland looks soo fucking good every damn game????

by Hazleton Jason on Aug 6, 2008 2:23 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

i hope that they bring in rincon and betancourt again today

next time that zobrist is up pinch him for upton, this game is just bad and they should put jesus back into the game to be our savior, i think he learned his lesson by now.

longo=ROY. friedman=Executive of the year. Maddon=Manager of the year. Rays=WS champs 08! fiddler cat=best way to show your excitement middle name lamar=success, last name lamar=fail, sorry chuck! pause not!

by RaysOfHope on Aug 6, 2008 2:24 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Upton for Gross/Hinske and move Zobrist to the empty spot.

by matthan on Aug 6, 2008 2:25 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Late in the game you should PH based on L/R matchups

And Zobrist is a switch hitter. Plus you can make an argument he is hitting just as well as Gross/Hinske right now.

by matthan on Aug 6, 2008 2:26 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I don't wanna be THAT guy

who overreacts but with Kazmir’s big problem with efficiency(still has 1 career CG) can anyone see him being a closer one day?

by joeybw on Aug 6, 2008 2:24 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

...No.

"STP is me. He can do everything I can do." - R.J. Anderson

by P Brady on Aug 6, 2008 2:25 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

i dont know but he is doing a good job doing his barry zito impression right now

also hinske is just playing like shit the past couple of weeks, i rather have cliff floyd playing instead of him as the DH

longo=ROY. friedman=Executive of the year. Maddon=Manager of the year. Rays=WS champs 08! fiddler cat=best way to show your excitement middle name lamar=success, last name lamar=fail, sorry chuck! pause not!

by RaysOfHope on Aug 6, 2008 2:27 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I'm going to go switch tvs

Maybe change up the luck

by matthan on Aug 6, 2008 2:28 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

is our OF reallly Hinske - Zobrist - Gross today?

Bartlett needs his hand fully healed NOW so we can get Rocco and let’s get Upton out of the principles office also.

by joeybw on Aug 6, 2008 2:28 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

don't count on it

he may not run out a useless grounder, we just can’t take a risk like that !

by joeybw on Aug 6, 2008 2:29 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

...

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"STP is me. He can do everything I can do." - R.J. Anderson

by P Brady on Aug 6, 2008 2:30 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

2 out nobody on base runner

can we get him in?

Also are CC and Upton available?

Our OF should be CC-Upton-Baldelli not Hinske-Zobrist-Gross…..

by joeybw on Aug 6, 2008 2:31 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

time to move Kaz to the bullpen … seriously, the guy is NOT a starter!
he is an OVERRATED relief pitcher in the wrong spot

staff aces have more than a friggin fastball in their arsenal and they definitely gotta be able to go 6+ innings …. MORE THAN ONCE PER MONTH! he can’t throw his slider right now and he doesn’t trust his changeup, so he’s basically showing up to a gun fight with a pocket knife

odds aint in your favor …

Posted by: Don’t Believe the HYPE | August 06, 2008 at 02:27 PM

"STP is me. He can do everything I can do." - R.J. Anderson

by P Brady on Aug 6, 2008 2:31 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

he is a waste as a MR

but the guy can be a Papelbon type as a closer I think. His pitch count is always rising too damn fast.

by joeybw on Aug 6, 2008 2:32 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

enough is enough promote ruggs, activate rocco and dfa gross and aybar

there problems solved, also dfa reyes,miller, hammel and promote price,salas, and niemann and also take kaz’s pipe away until he can make it past the 5ht inning

longo=ROY. friedman=Executive of the year. Maddon=Manager of the year. Rays=WS champs 08! fiddler cat=best way to show your excitement middle name lamar=success, last name lamar=fail, sorry chuck! pause not!

by RaysOfHope on Aug 6, 2008 2:31 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Floyd and Zobrist*

"STP is me. He can do everything I can do." - R.J. Anderson

by P Brady on Aug 6, 2008 2:32 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Ecclisiastic debates on ST Times

GOD DOESN’T HATE ANYONE. I WILL ASK YOU TO TAKE THAT BACK. TAKE THAT BACK. TAKE THAT BACK NOW.

LOOK AT THE ROCKIES, THEY ARE GOD’S TEAM, AND THEY WON 20 STRAIGHT UNTIL SOMEONE HATH SINNED. DO YOU THINK THAT’S MAGIC? NO. IT’S GOD. IT’S GOD.

Posted by: Frankie | August 06, 2008 at 02:15 PM

by Top Gun Numba 1 on Aug 6, 2008 2:34 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Already posted

"STP is me. He can do everything I can do." - R.J. Anderson

by P Brady on Aug 6, 2008 2:35 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

You know its bad when Staats says the P-Word

"STP is me. He can do everything I can do." - R.J. Anderson

by P Brady on Aug 6, 2008 2:35 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

HE'S THINKING ABOUT ALL THE WELFARE HE'S GOING TO COLLECT, AM I RITE RYAN?

I’ve been saying this since the beginning of the season, does anyone else look at BJ Upton when he comes up to bat or makes a catch in the outfield and sense that he really doesnt care what happens? It seems like his mind is in another place every game. What’s his deal?

Posted by: Ryan | August 06, 2008 at 02:22 PM

by Top Gun Numba 1 on Aug 6, 2008 2:35 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

that might have been strike 3

but ill take it. come on Longo

by joeybw on Aug 6, 2008 2:37 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Longo...

"STP is me. He can do everything I can do." - R.J. Anderson

by P Brady on Aug 6, 2008 2:38 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

this umpire sucks

LONGO!!!!!!!!

I am thinking of proposing to him? No hetero

by joeybw on Aug 6, 2008 2:38 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

i love how our team has been in so many shoot outs lately

After all those 2-1 win/losses we kept having. Then again, I should hold out judgment until we face a team that has a pitcher who can throw a strike.

by joeybw on Aug 6, 2008 2:39 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

well at least we got 1 back

time for our bullpen to be them normal selves. We need a lot of work from JP because no way Balfour or Wheeler are coming in.

Might see Howell for another inning and then Hammel

by joeybw on Aug 6, 2008 2:41 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

i love Rickie Weeks

because we didn’t pick him and instead took Young which let to Bartlett and Garza! Now get that velocity up, Morlan.

by joeybw on Aug 6, 2008 2:42 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Perez doesnt give up runs

he hardly gives up hits

I really do not want to see him today.

by joeybw on Aug 6, 2008 2:42 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

He walks the world

"STP is me. He can do everything I can do." - R.J. Anderson

by P Brady on Aug 6, 2008 2:43 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I am gonna be optimistic and say what it will be if we are winning

6th – Howell
7th and 8th – Hammel
9th – Percy

Maybe 1 batter somewhere will be Miller.

by joeybw on Aug 6, 2008 2:45 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

sounds good to me

Hammel has been a lot better than people give him credit for lately.

by Dbullsfan on Aug 6, 2008 2:46 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

JP could prob go the 7th

but I don’t know, I remember he came out for a 3rd inning once against the Rangers and gave up a grand slam to that guy, you know the one who took millions from us but never played above AA and is now a star…..whats his name again…

by joeybw on Aug 6, 2008 2:49 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

yep

hopefully Maddon has gained some confidence and doesn’t try to go the 7th and 8th with Miller and Reyes….

by joeybw on Aug 6, 2008 2:46 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

do you think

we can get Susan Sarandon to talk with Kaz? He’s thinking too much.

by TallMatt on Aug 6, 2008 2:47 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Magrane sucks at jokes

"STP is me. He can do everything I can do." - R.J. Anderson

by P Brady on Aug 6, 2008 2:48 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I just hope Price stays on the light side and doesn’t become a malcontent.

Posted by: Frankie | August 06, 2008 at 02:45 PM

by R.J. Anderson on Aug 6, 2008 2:49 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Just about to post that,

I guess “Frankie” thinks DP is a mullato?

by Top Gun Numba 1 on Aug 6, 2008 2:50 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

we need a in game trade, Rodney to the Indians

we can just stand there and walk to a win

by joeybw on Aug 6, 2008 2:51 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

GOD.

Kazmir needs to stop striking fellers out. I’d take 7 innings with 3 hits 8 walks and no strikeouts everytime out. IF YOU CAN’T GET HIM OUT JUST WALK HIM. IT WORKS FOR EDWIN.

Posted by: Frankie | August 06, 2008 at 02:51 PM

by R.J. Anderson on Aug 6, 2008 2:52 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

nice

so he thinks an ace should throw 8 walks and 0 k’s? Smart man.

by joeybw on Aug 6, 2008 2:53 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I have a funny feeling in my tummy….
I think I have to POO.

Posted by: Jimmy J | August 06, 2008 at 02:51 PM

by Top Gun Numba 1 on Aug 6, 2008 2:53 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Jimmy J then followed that up with
ching chang chong rook at me im a chinamen

by Top Gun Numba 1 on Aug 6, 2008 2:53 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

that man is a genius

edwin has been pitching better than kaz lately

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by RaysOfHope on Aug 6, 2008 2:53 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

edwin has been pitching much better than kaz

kaz is our worst sp the last couple of weeks

longo=ROY. friedman=Executive of the year. Maddon=Manager of the year. Rays=WS champs 08! fiddler cat=best way to show your excitement middle name lamar=success, last name lamar=fail, sorry chuck! pause not!

by RaysOfHope on Aug 6, 2008 2:55 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

BRILLIANT.

I agree with Frankie. Strikeouts don’t help you get outs.

Posted by: Lance | August 06, 2008 at 02:54 PM

by R.J. Anderson on Aug 6, 2008 2:55 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

and benching jesus doesnt help you win either

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by RaysOfHope on Aug 6, 2008 2:56 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

GOD

"STP is me. He can do everything I can do." - R.J. Anderson

by P Brady on Aug 6, 2008 2:56 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I agree with Frankie. Strikeouts don’t help you get outs.

Posted by: Lance | August 06, 2008 at 02:54 PM

by Top Gun Numba 1 on Aug 6, 2008 2:56 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

their defense looks like my ass

lets take advantage of that please

by joeybw on Aug 6, 2008 2:56 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

i dont like the part that we have to face Shoppach now

But I hope Gonzalez keeps throwing it over Fasano’s head

by joeybw on Aug 6, 2008 2:58 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

sorry to bring this up rj but is cannizaro on thier roster or in the minors?

and please dont cry

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by RaysOfHope on Aug 6, 2008 2:59 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I think we should start Zobrist in CF more. He puts the ball in the field. Upton just walks when was the last time you saw a walk turned into a double?

Posted by: Lance | August 06, 2008 at 02:58 PM

by R.J. Anderson on Aug 6, 2008 2:59 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

hit a HR Hinske

get us the run back….again

by joeybw on Aug 6, 2008 3:01 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

well those guys definetly know what their talking about

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by RaysOfHope on Aug 6, 2008 3:01 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

hinske sucks bring in jesus right now!

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by RaysOfHope on Aug 6, 2008 3:02 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

fucking Hinske

now lets watch Marte, Gonzalez and Fasano produce a run off of us

by joeybw on Aug 6, 2008 3:02 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

If you have read any of comments for the past 2 or 3 months, you will note that I have been badmouthing Upton for lack of hustle on a regular basis. What pisses me off is when he called out Aki in public, Aki was the wrong one as Aki hustles all the time and Upton doesn’t. This entire fiasco is nobodys fault but Maddon’s. He should have addressed this at the beginning of the season and put a stop to it then and there with a team meeting so everyone got the word of ZERO tolerance. Fellow fans, if you look at this team right now, we have a couple areas of concern-(1) RF, right handed hitter-we all know that--(2) starting pitching, especially Kazmir. If he is your ace, your stopper, etc. and he is struggling (ON A CONSISTANT BASIS) to get through 5 innings, we have a problem. Today it wasn’t as much the wildness as it was him getting knocked around pretty hard..Something is wrong with this kid, either his mechanics are off or his head is off but something is off. Same thing with our 2nd horse, Shields, whose ERA is climbing..Perhaps too many innings for these youngsters is getting to them? It concerns me and I’m sure Maddon and Friedman are concerned as well. What to do??

Posted by: dick | August 06, 2008 at 03:02 PM

"STP is me. He can do everything I can do." - R.J. Anderson

by P Brady on Aug 6, 2008 3:03 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

prospects for after this season. How will the top of Minnesota’s rankings look with Ben Revere, Shooter Hunt, and Aaron Hicks? Also, which of their prospects has shot up like Blackburn did last year? For Tampa Bay, obviously David Price at #1, then what order do Davis, Hellickson, McGee, and Beckham go in? Who else is in the mix? Cobb, Brignac, Jennings, Niemann, Barnese? Thanks.

SportsNation John Manuel : (2:25 PM ET ) Another Twins question . . . Revere & Hunt certainly will be near the top, but don’t forget C Wilson Ramos. He ranked third on our list coming into the year, is Best Defensive C in the FSL and has 12 homers and a .764 OPS as a 20-year-old in the FSL this year. He’s a front-line starting catcher prospect. Could be No. 1 or No. 2 for me, with Revere right there as well. Slama has established himself as for real this year (he ranked 28th entering the year) and LHP Jose Lugo is starting to pop up as an arm strength guy. Forthe Rays . . . McGee obviously falls some with his surgery, and Jennings takes a knock for missing the bulk of the year. Justin Ruggiano might be in their top 10, as would Reid Brignac, who can really defend. You left out Heath Rollins, who also is on the fringe of their top 10 and might rank ahead of Cobb, he’s a really cerebral, athletic pitcher who gets the most out of average stuff.

9 = 8

by websterjtc on Aug 6, 2008 3:04 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

IF we actually come back against this amazing pitching

We might go Reyes – Percival for the final 2 innings. Needs more Hammel. Yes, I said that.

by joeybw on Aug 6, 2008 3:06 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

i hope that the rays dont resign hinske after this season

right now he is just shit

longo=ROY. friedman=Executive of the year. Maddon=Manager of the year. Rays=WS champs 08! fiddler cat=best way to show your excitement middle name lamar=success, last name lamar=fail, sorry chuck! pause not!

by RaysOfHope on Aug 6, 2008 3:07 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

i hope we see his lazy ass just trot around the bases after he hits a HR

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by RaysOfHope on Aug 6, 2008 3:14 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

wow pefect situation to put in the bossman and they blow it! rays deserve to lose this game the way this lineup is and the upton benching

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by RaysOfHope on Aug 6, 2008 3:19 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

maddon should be fined 1$ for pulling a devil rays move with this lineup and benching upton!

longo=ROY. friedman=Executive of the year. Maddon=Manager of the year. Rays=WS champs 08! fiddler cat=best way to show your excitement middle name lamar=success, last name lamar=fail, sorry chuck! pause not!

by RaysOfHope on Aug 6, 2008 3:21 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

ya this game is still within reach but they have to put upton back in next zobrist AB

i think that he will but i thought that he shouldve put him in during his last AB

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by RaysOfHope on Aug 6, 2008 3:30 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

who is cleveland going to bring into the 9th? i hope for rincon or betancourt

longo=ROY. friedman=Executive of the year. Maddon=Manager of the year. Rays=WS champs 08! fiddler cat=best way to show your excitement middle name lamar=success, last name lamar=fail, sorry chuck! pause not!

by RaysOfHope on Aug 6, 2008 3:34 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

i know! how cant we beat this team? even at home! just doesnt make sense to me

longo=ROY. friedman=Executive of the year. Maddon=Manager of the year. Rays=WS champs 08! fiddler cat=best way to show your excitement middle name lamar=success, last name lamar=fail, sorry chuck! pause not!

by RaysOfHope on Aug 6, 2008 3:36 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

No more Cleveland

For the rest of the year.

by Schmidt on Aug 6, 2008 3:40 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Talk about Insult to Injury

They bring in Percy now … Maddon really is a masochist isn’t he?

by PewterPirate55 on Aug 6, 2008 3:42 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Nobody left in the bullpen

They’re all spent from the starters not getting deep into games.

by Schmidt on Aug 6, 2008 3:44 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

ya no shit

we are makeing cleveland look like the team that is fighting for a playoff spot, next we have to play seattle and they have been playing well lately too, i hope that rocco is back tomorrow and aybar is gone

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by RaysOfHope on Aug 6, 2008 3:42 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

im watching on gameday, is someone warming up for cleveland?

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by RaysOfHope on Aug 6, 2008 3:44 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Mujica was

Last inning, not sure if he still is,

by Schmidt on Aug 6, 2008 3:47 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Turn out the lights the Party is over...

Another run on a passed ball … That was insurance its done.

by PewterPirate55 on Aug 6, 2008 3:48 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

ugh

Terrible fucking game.

by Vin on Aug 6, 2008 3:48 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

wow percy sucks! i wish he only signed him for 1 year instead of 2!

longo=ROY. friedman=Executive of the year. Maddon=Manager of the year. Rays=WS champs 08! fiddler cat=best way to show your excitement middle name lamar=success, last name lamar=fail, sorry chuck! pause not!

by RaysOfHope on Aug 6, 2008 3:48 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

it shouldnt be such a relief that we are done with the Indians

We either pull a miracle or wind up 1-6 against them. I hope we can beat Seattle…..

by joeybw on Aug 6, 2008 3:50 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

well if nothing else

we can know that Bartlett is so awesome

by joeybw on Aug 6, 2008 3:52 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

per Rotoworld
Jason Bartlett (finger) is back in the Rays’ lineup Wednesday at designated hitter.
Even the Mariners laugh at a DH with a sore finger and 602 OPS. Even better, Bartlett is batting seventh, with Eric Hinske and Gabe Gross below him in the lineup.

by Vin on Aug 6, 2008 3:54 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

That wild pitch/passed ball

Looks like it will come back and haunt us.

3 more runs plz

by Schmidt on Aug 6, 2008 3:54 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

game isnt over yet! they better let upton hit if comes down to zobrist hitting

longo=ROY. friedman=Executive of the year. Maddon=Manager of the year. Rays=WS champs 08! fiddler cat=best way to show your excitement middle name lamar=success, last name lamar=fail, sorry chuck! pause not!

by RaysOfHope on Aug 6, 2008 3:55 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

is this happening?

omggggg Gabe in the 9th again!

by joeybw on Aug 6, 2008 3:57 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

It's because of his song

That’s what did it. No doubt.

by gatorman2k2 on Aug 6, 2008 3:58 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

it can't hurt

Blake
USF--Class of '09

by usfraysfan on Aug 6, 2008 3:59 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

its gonna hurt a lot more if we lose now

so lets not!

let Aki hit then bring Upton the fuck in

by joeybw on Aug 6, 2008 4:00 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

do this now

Percy will def pitch the 10th if we dont

by joeybw on Aug 6, 2008 4:00 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

caption clutch!

is bj on deck?

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by RaysOfHope on Aug 6, 2008 4:01 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

NINJA POWA!!

TALKA NO SHEET NOW

by rayweaver on Aug 6, 2008 4:01 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

wow how isnt bj not up right now

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by RaysOfHope on Aug 6, 2008 4:03 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

gross

Gross still has no idea what happened there

by TallMatt on Aug 6, 2008 4:04 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

PPPPPEEEEEEEENNNNNNNNAAAAAAAAA

WOOOOOOOOOOOOWOWOWOWOWOOWOWOWOWOORJfW(EBtpOIBBOWUHEs

Sign lady must die.

by EminenceFront on Aug 6, 2008 4:04 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

ARE YOU SERIOUS

DID THAT HAPPEN? AM I DREAMING? IT’S A WET DREAM IF I AM

by joeybw on Aug 6, 2008 4:06 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

FIDDLECATS TO BATTLESTATIONS

FIDDLECATS TO BATTLESTATIONS
FIDDLECATS TO BATTLESTATIONS
FIDDLECATS TO BATTLESTATIONS
FIDDLECATS TO BATTLESTATIONS
FIDDLECATS TO BATTLESTATIONS
FIDDLECATS TO BATTLESTATIONS

Sign lady must die.

by EminenceFront on Aug 6, 2008 4:06 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

wow what a game!

PENA and GROSS share MVP in this one!!!!! caption clutch tied it and pena won it

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by RaysOfHope on Aug 6, 2008 4:06 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

jesus

our starting OF was Hinske – Zobrist – Gross, Aybar at SS and we couldnt use Aussie or Wheeler and we…..WON

by joeybw on Aug 6, 2008 4:07 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Magical season

This one is a freebie.

by gatorman2k2 on Aug 6, 2008 4:09 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

someone put the fiddler cat up here now!!

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by RaysOfHope on Aug 6, 2008 4:07 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I'll bet

there are some pissed people that left early today

by TallMatt on Aug 6, 2008 4:08 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

faint

hes pretty agile, i can see him feinting though

by Acadien on Aug 6, 2008 4:10 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

We ARE the chosen ones.

never give up hope …

by Gator80 on Aug 6, 2008 4:09 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Sign lady must die.

by EminenceFront on Aug 6, 2008 4:09 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

OMFG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I love this team!

The line it is drawn/The curse it is cast/The slow one now/Will later be fast/ As the present now/Will later be past/The order is/Rapidly fadin'./And the first one now/Will later be last/For the times they are a-changin'..- Bob Dylan

by thebaddancingraysfan on Aug 6, 2008 4:10 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

watched that movie last night lol, someone put the fiddler up now plz!

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by RaysOfHope on Aug 6, 2008 4:11 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

i don't know how to post pics or i would.

i’m looking at it on my computer though

by stpetelawyer on Aug 6, 2008 4:12 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

That has to be the best comeback EVER. God I am glad I have enough sense to be a Rays fan.

by JBrooks31 on Aug 6, 2008 4:17 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Fuckin a

i went and mowed my lawn after the 8th inning. i suck. i suck. i suck. i suck

by jacksontsmith on Aug 6, 2008 4:29 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Wrong on so many levels

From the ESPN comments:

Yeah, that kind of attitude isn’t going to fly down here. We (Tampa) have the deepest farm system in the game and he’s tradeable as being a decent hitter and great outfielder and one of the best base stealers in the game. I can’t see him being here next year…trade him to the Nats, he can go play with Young and see how it feels to lose again, maybe that will motivate him to run 90 feet for millions of dollars!!

GO RAYS!!

Vogt early, Vogt often.

by Brickhaus on Aug 6, 2008 4:30 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Yeah ... that is going to help come contract time.

Put him on blast for not running something out. Couldn’t they privately discipline but publicly give him a day off for something else. All this did was feed the fire about him. I can hear it now radio hosts saying ” Maddon agrees with me that he is lazy, why else did he sit him one game for not running out a play?” Please clean house in private management. Just my opinion, I could be wrong have been known to be wrong before, could be wrong now. But I don’t think I am.

by PewterPirate55 on Aug 6, 2008 4:43 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

read his quote closely, trade him to the Nats so he can play with Young??

I am pretty sure this guy never lifted an eyebrow to the Rays untill a month ago and has most likely only seen the Rays play 10 times max.

by Dbullsfan on Aug 6, 2008 5:05 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I know ...

But don’t give the bandwagoners fuel for their fire. It has started to become about BJ hate with them. I read ESPN’s story. According to them Maddon had a meeting with the team after a game with KC about running balls out. I know the exact play it was referring to because I remember it sticking out in my mind. Upton batting after Aki, Aki gets to second on a double play ball safely because of hustle and a bobble by the second baseman. BJ gets beat by two steps at first because he didn’t hustle out of the box. I said all that to say this. After that amazing play in center field last night, he could have turned a page with the fans. That is why you bench him privately, but give him the day off publicly. Allow the fans to revel in his accomplishments with him don’t allow them to see the discipline that will turn the fans against him.

by PewterPirate55 on Aug 6, 2008 5:30 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Doubt this is the first time BJ's heard about it

I’m betting he’s heard it “in private” a time or ten. He certainly heard it in private (in general, non-finger-pointing terms to the team) a couple of weeks ago. That didn’t work, so Joe took it public with the benching. A 10 run day made Joe’s point well. And for the record, EVERY player who dogs it should sit. Wedge rightfully did it with Garko today… not like Joe’s out on an island on this one.

And I’m a fan of guys who can cover sick ground in the OF and carry a .380 OBP. But a point had to be made (BJ is not the only offender) and hopefully it was. Maybe his “I just work here” response was just heat of the moment and not a measure of his character and ability to respond to appropriate discipline.

by gatorman2k2 on Aug 6, 2008 6:28 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Was at the game, it was more awesome live

Do not think that what is hard for you to master is humanly impossible; but if a thing is humanly possible, consider it to be within your reach.

by Orlando Rays on Aug 6, 2008 6:40 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

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