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September is Just Another Month

These last two nights presented two of the best  games of the season. I'm exhausted like the Rays bullpen but we just took two of three from the Boston Red Sox, in Boston, in September. Who needs veteran presence?

- Carlos Pena is a manster.

- Fernando Perez is fast and good on defense.

- Troy Percival is no longer in Maddon's fav five.

- Sonnanstine is what we say he is...

- Jason Hammel v. Jason Bay round two was enjoyable. His bendy things are nice. And bendy. B.J. Upton just got him in the face with a pie, so lazy.

Admirable job by the entire team tonight, now please hurry back Evan Longoria and Upton and we might need an arm or two from Durham soon.

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Revised bullpen depth chart:

1. Balfour
2. Wheeler
3. Howell
4. Bradford
5. Miller
6. Hammel
7. Arm from Durham
8. Arm from Durham II
9. Inanimate Carbon Rod
10. Percival

by RATW on Sep 11, 2008 12:25 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

You, sir, are well on your way to becoming a winner at this fine establishment.

Dear god NO DAN JOHNSON - thebaddancingraysfan hours before DanJo hit a game tying HR off Papelbon.

by Vin on Sep 11, 2008 12:29 AM EDT up reply actions  

Same.

Dear god NO DAN JOHNSON - thebaddancingraysfan hours before DanJo hit a game tying HR off Papelbon.

by Vin on Sep 11, 2008 12:33 AM EDT up reply actions  

In Rod we Trust

Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't matter, and those who matter don't mind.

by Sandy Kazmir on Sep 11, 2008 9:02 AM EDT up reply actions  

i think you're still missing a couple more arms from durham...

am i the only one that has Howell #2 and Bradford #3?

Wheeler and Percival have combined to serve up 18 homeruns

9 = 8

by walkoffwalk on Sep 11, 2008 9:18 AM EDT up reply actions  

Great game Way to step up Pena, Howell, Hammel, Sonny, Aybar, Fernie

everyone but Percy basically

Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't matter, and those who matter don't mind.

by Sandy Kazmir on Sep 11, 2008 12:20 AM EDT reply actions  

Dear god NO DAN JOHNSON - thebaddancingraysfan hours before DanJo hit a game tying HR off Papelbon.

by Vin on Sep 11, 2008 12:20 AM EDT reply actions  

EPIC

Dear god NO DAN JOHNSON - thebaddancingraysfan hours before DanJo hit a game tying HR off Papelbon.

by Vin on Sep 11, 2008 12:21 AM EDT up reply actions  

That was not fun

Pena made it fun, and Percy TOOK IT ALL AWAY

like last night

by plasticman on Sep 11, 2008 12:26 AM EDT up reply actions  

we got so lucky tonight

from espn

“Boston loaded the bases with no outs in the 14th against closer Troy Percival. Hammel took over with a 4-1 lead and retired three straight batters for his first save since he pitched at Class A Hudson Valley in 2002.”

by plasticman on Sep 11, 2008 12:27 AM EDT up reply actions  

Luck or not

The Rays got the “W”. Buck Foston and Buck ESPN. Still in first…

by rayweaver on Sep 11, 2008 12:31 AM EDT up reply actions  

5 hours, 14 innings

after all that, thank fucking god we won

WE TOOK THE SERIES IN BOSTON

by joeybw on Sep 11, 2008 12:20 AM EDT reply actions  

Since I've been so critical of him in the past

and I was gone earlier so I couldn’t post… great game by Sonny. I thought we’d get obliterated tonight and I’m so happy to be wrong.

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Yes, we really do have fans.

by killa3312 on Sep 11, 2008 12:20 AM EDT reply actions  

So this is how much fun a baseball season can be...

It’s amazing how little I care about the Bucs right now…and I freakin love it!

by steve-o1285 on Sep 11, 2008 12:24 AM EDT reply actions  

I was in the shitter for the whole top of the 14th

And missed the good stuff. I was contemplating going back in when i came out to see Percy on the mound, but I was no longer full of shit. Thank the good lawd that Maddon got him out of there…and thank the good lawd for Hammertime???

by rayweaver on Sep 11, 2008 12:26 AM EDT reply actions  

...him to fetch us awesome RF'er

Dear god NO DAN JOHNSON - thebaddancingraysfan hours before DanJo hit a game tying HR off Papelbon.

by Vin on Sep 11, 2008 12:30 AM EDT up reply actions  

We'll need to deal both

unless we manage to dump Hammel.

I haven’t been corrected yet, so I’m still assuming Talbot is out of options after this year too.

Dear god NO DAN JOHNSON - thebaddancingraysfan hours before DanJo hit a game tying HR off Papelbon.

by Vin on Sep 11, 2008 12:32 AM EDT up reply actions  

I really can't disagree.

I like him way more than Hammel.

Dear god NO DAN JOHNSON - thebaddancingraysfan hours before DanJo hit a game tying HR off Papelbon.

by Vin on Sep 11, 2008 12:34 AM EDT up reply actions  

can't be

he’s never pitched in the bigs. might be rule-5 eligible though.

by calmer than you are on Sep 11, 2008 1:07 AM EDT up reply actions  

but wait

he has been called up at least once.

though i doubt he’s been called up and optioned some other time without throwing a pitch.

by calmer than you are on Sep 11, 2008 1:08 AM EDT up reply actions  

Niemann and Talbot both spent time on a ML roster for the first time this year.

So… I dunno.

Dear god NO DAN JOHNSON - thebaddancingraysfan hours before DanJo hit a game tying HR off Papelbon.

by Vin on Sep 11, 2008 1:11 AM EDT up reply actions  

One left

Vogt early, Vogt often.

by Brickhaus on Sep 11, 2008 8:31 AM EDT up reply actions  

One option left for Talbot, that is

He wasn’t added to the 40-man roster until after he got traded

Vogt early, Vogt often.

by Brickhaus on Sep 11, 2008 8:32 AM EDT up reply actions  

Thanks.

Dear god NO DAN JOHNSON - thebaddancingraysfan hours before DanJo hit a game tying HR off Papelbon.

by Vin on Sep 11, 2008 8:41 AM EDT up reply actions  

I only caught the last inning.

Um, Hammel sacked up? WTF is this shit? He singlehandedly with that one inning paid back the Rays for all the oxygen he stole this year. It’s like he hit the productivity lottery today.

by kericr on Sep 11, 2008 12:33 AM EDT reply actions  

he will be good again

just give him some time off and he can close. i have faith in him even though i might be white hair by the end of the reg season

by Underdogs on Sep 11, 2008 12:38 AM EDT up reply actions  

Good God, Fail.

Look at this asshole’s stats outside of April.

Dear god NO DAN JOHNSON - thebaddancingraysfan hours before DanJo hit a game tying HR off Papelbon.

by Vin on Sep 11, 2008 12:40 AM EDT up reply actions  

I fucking hope so.

Dear god NO DAN JOHNSON - thebaddancingraysfan hours before DanJo hit a game tying HR off Papelbon.

by Vin on Sep 11, 2008 12:36 AM EDT up reply actions  

It's gotta be close

He already got the dreaded vote of confidence.

by kericr on Sep 11, 2008 12:37 AM EDT up reply actions  

On that note,

MAJOR fucking props to Maddon for yanking Percival. I couldn’t believe it.

Dear god NO DAN JOHNSON - thebaddancingraysfan hours before DanJo hit a game tying HR off Papelbon.

by Vin on Sep 11, 2008 12:36 AM EDT reply actions  

Now you're just trying too hard.

Dear god NO DAN JOHNSON - thebaddancingraysfan hours before DanJo hit a game tying HR off Papelbon.

by Vin on Sep 11, 2008 12:40 AM EDT up reply actions  

Redemption is yours.

Dear god NO DAN JOHNSON - thebaddancingraysfan hours before DanJo hit a game tying HR off Papelbon.

by Vin on Sep 11, 2008 12:41 AM EDT up reply actions  

Someone is jealous.

Dear god NO DAN JOHNSON - thebaddancingraysfan hours before DanJo hit a game tying HR off Papelbon.

by Vin on Sep 11, 2008 12:42 AM EDT up reply actions  

I'm offended by that question.

Seriously.

Dear god NO DAN JOHNSON - thebaddancingraysfan hours before DanJo hit a game tying HR off Papelbon.

by Vin on Sep 11, 2008 12:43 AM EDT up reply actions  

This is why you should never be jealous.

Well timed, quality posting.

Dear god NO DAN JOHNSON - thebaddancingraysfan hours before DanJo hit a game tying HR off Papelbon.

by Vin on Sep 11, 2008 12:47 AM EDT up reply actions  

That's just it, I have no reason to get jealous.

Besides, I haven’t been here all night. There’s a new superstar every night.

by kericr on Sep 11, 2008 12:48 AM EDT up reply actions  

I never thought you were jealous.

Dear god NO DAN JOHNSON - thebaddancingraysfan hours before DanJo hit a game tying HR off Papelbon.

by Vin on Sep 11, 2008 12:49 AM EDT up reply actions  

Which is why I was "offended"

Dear god NO DAN JOHNSON - thebaddancingraysfan hours before DanJo hit a game tying HR off Papelbon.

by Vin on Sep 11, 2008 12:50 AM EDT up reply actions  

Anyone think that David Price could be called up for 2nd game of doubleheader vs Baltimore after Maddon's recent comments?

Maddon opened the door for speculation that the nightcap of that doubleheader could mark the Major League debut of top prospect David Price, since an extra pitcher will be needed due to the fact the team has no more off-days after Thursday.

“We have discussed candidates [to pitch the second game],” Maddon said. “We have not decided yet. They have a lot of left-handed guys who are good, we’ll just wait and see. We’re talking about [Nick] Markakis and [Aubrey Huff]. We’ll just wait and see.”

by Rays Rule on Sep 11, 2008 12:40 AM EDT reply actions  

I don't see why not.

Dear god NO DAN JOHNSON - thebaddancingraysfan hours before DanJo hit a game tying HR off Papelbon.

by Vin on Sep 11, 2008 12:41 AM EDT up reply actions  

Price is coming up

it’s an absolute certainty. Maddon has pretty much all but confirmed it. And hell, why not? Yes, he’s struggled in AAA, but he’s still got absolutely dirty stuff. I think he’d step up his level of play in the majors.

www.raysbb.com

Yes, we really do have fans.

by killa3312 on Sep 11, 2008 12:46 AM EDT up reply actions  

I just hope he doesnt replace Howell, Wheeler, or Balfour

those guys should be 789. Even if Price is here he shouldn’t be throwing that much.

by Dbullsfan on Sep 11, 2008 12:48 AM EDT up reply actions  

I'm sure that won't happen.

Dear god NO DAN JOHNSON - thebaddancingraysfan hours before DanJo hit a game tying HR off Papelbon.

by Vin on Sep 11, 2008 12:49 AM EDT up reply actions  

Price has no shot of replacing those guys

I still maintain that he’ll start down the stretch to give Sonny and/or E-Jax some rest.

www.raysbb.com

Yes, we really do have fans.

by killa3312 on Sep 11, 2008 12:49 AM EDT up reply actions  

Because Price is better than those two

regardless of what his tiny sample size in AAA indicates.

www.raysbb.com

Yes, we really do have fans.

by killa3312 on Sep 11, 2008 12:51 AM EDT up reply actions  

will be better than those two I will give you.

I would say either of the other two have a better chance of success in the bigs this year.

by Dbullsfan on Sep 11, 2008 12:53 AM EDT up reply actions  

Price's stuff is so good

he can be off and still produce successful starts. There’s what, two, maybe three LH starters in baseball that throw as hard as consistently as he does?

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Yes, we really do have fans.

by killa3312 on Sep 11, 2008 12:55 AM EDT up reply actions  

Hell, why not Davis?

It could be any of them.

Dear god NO DAN JOHNSON - thebaddancingraysfan hours before DanJo hit a game tying HR off Papelbon.

by Vin on Sep 11, 2008 12:43 AM EDT up reply actions  

While that was rhetorical,

I wasn’t aware he hadn’t been added yet.

Dear god NO DAN JOHNSON - thebaddancingraysfan hours before DanJo hit a game tying HR off Papelbon.

by Vin on Sep 11, 2008 12:44 AM EDT up reply actions  

Guess how many pissed off Bostonians

are going to give me the evil eye on the T tomorrow, with my hat and jersey!

by plasticman on Sep 11, 2008 12:47 AM EDT reply actions  

7?

I’m sure it’ll be 7.

Dear god NO DAN JOHNSON - thebaddancingraysfan hours before DanJo hit a game tying HR off Papelbon.

by Vin on Sep 11, 2008 12:48 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yes? Yes.

Let me share some stats with you.

by Acadien on Sep 11, 2008 12:52 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Excellent.

Dear god NO DAN JOHNSON - thebaddancingraysfan hours before DanJo hit a game tying HR off Papelbon.

by Vin on Sep 11, 2008 12:53 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yes

I listen to Paramore, and I’m proud to admit it. They have some addicting songs.

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Yes, we really do have fans.

by killa3312 on Sep 11, 2008 12:52 AM EDT up reply actions  

Paramore is just the tipping point

We won’t get into the other bands I listen to.

www.raysbb.com

Yes, we really do have fans.

by killa3312 on Sep 11, 2008 12:56 AM EDT up reply actions  

If Paramore is a tipping point, and not a starting point,

then yeah, continue.

Dear god NO DAN JOHNSON - thebaddancingraysfan hours before DanJo hit a game tying HR off Papelbon.

by Vin on Sep 11, 2008 12:58 AM EDT up reply actions  

I don't understand this statement.

As I have lived in Indiana/Tennessee my whole life.

Elaborate please.

Dear god NO DAN JOHNSON - thebaddancingraysfan hours before DanJo hit a game tying HR off Papelbon.

by Vin on Sep 11, 2008 1:02 AM EDT up reply actions  

I was referring to myself.

www.raysbb.com

Yes, we really do have fans.

by killa3312 on Sep 11, 2008 1:03 AM EDT up reply actions  

Just trying to goat you in to expanding on your musical taste.

I never knew you were such a closed book.

Dear god NO DAN JOHNSON - thebaddancingraysfan hours before DanJo hit a game tying HR off Papelbon.

by Vin on Sep 11, 2008 1:04 AM EDT up reply actions  

Maddon has played the numbers game with Sonny this year.

That’s the only reason he’s been pulled with a PC under 100.

Maddon + Sonny = Good Stuff

Dear god NO DAN JOHNSON - thebaddancingraysfan hours before DanJo hit a game tying HR off Papelbon.

by Vin on Sep 11, 2008 1:01 AM EDT up reply actions  

Guess who's back in the circle of trust?

“You spray painted this cats tail to make him look like Jinx, didn’t ya Focker?”

www.raysbb.com

Yes, we really do have fans.

by killa3312 on Sep 11, 2008 1:02 AM EDT up reply actions  

I kind of hated that movie.

I find it hard to find Ben Stiller funny most of the time.

Dear god NO DAN JOHNSON - thebaddancingraysfan hours before DanJo hit a game tying HR off Papelbon.

by Vin on Sep 11, 2008 1:03 AM EDT up reply actions  

I'm not a Stiller fan, either

but that movie is downright hilarious.

www.raysbb.com

Yes, we really do have fans.

by killa3312 on Sep 11, 2008 1:03 AM EDT up reply actions  

It was just beneath me.

I’m supposed to laugh my ass off ‘cause some guy’s name is “Gaylord.”

No thanks.

Dear god NO DAN JOHNSON - thebaddancingraysfan hours before DanJo hit a game tying HR off Papelbon.

by Vin on Sep 11, 2008 1:06 AM EDT up reply actions  

OMG! The whole movie makes sense now!

Really, I just wasn’t impressed. If anyone other than De Niro played the father-in-law, the movie wouldn’t have done any better than Along Came Polly.

Dear god NO DAN JOHNSON - thebaddancingraysfan hours before DanJo hit a game tying HR off Papelbon.

by Vin on Sep 11, 2008 1:09 AM EDT up reply actions  

I agree with that

but the movie is so much more than that, IMHO.

www.raysbb.com

Yes, we really do have fans.

by killa3312 on Sep 11, 2008 1:09 AM EDT up reply actions  

i loved it at the time

after the 5th viewing it loses steam tho

by daveh33 on Sep 11, 2008 1:04 AM EDT up reply actions  

GOD this thread is epic.

Dear god NO DAN JOHNSON - thebaddancingraysfan hours before DanJo hit a game tying HR off Papelbon.

by Vin on Sep 11, 2008 1:12 AM EDT up reply actions  

Accidental Reply.

I just hope they get it before I ship off.

Dear god NO DAN JOHNSON - thebaddancingraysfan hours before DanJo hit a game tying HR off Papelbon.

by Vin on Sep 11, 2008 1:14 AM EDT up reply actions  

I leave for basic on the 25th

I’m sure we’ll clinch a playoff spot by then… Hopefully the division too.

Dear god NO DAN JOHNSON - thebaddancingraysfan hours before DanJo hit a game tying HR off Papelbon.

by Vin on Sep 11, 2008 1:18 AM EDT up reply actions  

I do.

Dear god NO DAN JOHNSON - thebaddancingraysfan hours before DanJo hit a game tying HR off Papelbon.

by Vin on Sep 11, 2008 1:21 AM EDT up reply actions  

georgia girl

been to her website… its, uh, entertaining

by daveh33 on Sep 11, 2008 1:27 AM EDT up reply actions  

Very nice.

Dear god NO DAN JOHNSON - thebaddancingraysfan hours before DanJo hit a game tying HR off Papelbon.

by Vin on Sep 11, 2008 1:27 AM EDT up reply actions  

Night all

Greatest game ever. And we all saw it. Gotta love being a Rays fan. I remember all the history because I lived it.

What a game. What a team. What a season.

by rglass44 on Sep 11, 2008 1:27 AM EDT reply actions  

PICS OR IT DIDN'T HAPPEN!

The Rays got out of Boston in first place, but a handful of players were denied a clean escape.

When they returned to the clubhouse after the 4-2 14-inning victory against the Red Sox, some Rays personnel discovered their clothes had been confiscated and replaced with some, um, outlandish outfits in the annual rookie hazing road trip.

Among the casualties:

Evan Longoria (tight, sexy female police officer’s uniform), Matt Garza (taco costume), John Jaso (1960’s pink and white mini skirt), Fernando Perez (military police mini skirt), Andy Sonnanstine (turkey costume), Justin Ruggiano (sexy referee’s skirt), Michel Hernandez (frog prince costume) and Juan Salas (mariachi outfit). The hands down favorite was Tateki Uchibori, the interpreter for Akinori Iwamura, in a female gymnast’s outfit with red pumps.

The players left the clubhouse to great applause and wore their outfits on the charter flight to New York.

9 = 8

by walkoffwalk on Sep 11, 2008 1:58 AM EDT reply actions  

I really want to see Garza the Taco.

Top Josh Paul Pornos- Big Navi Stroking, 2pitchers1cup, BJ to the Balls, Riggans Your Thingans

BELIEVE in 08!

by SRQman on Sep 11, 2008 2:01 AM EDT up reply actions  

PERCIVAL - BACK WAS THE PROBLEM
BOSTON—Troy Percival’s explanation for what happened in the bottom of the 14th was essentially that his back locked up on him as he warmed up for the third or fourth time in tonight’s marathon.

Every time he struggles, he blames it on injury…maybe it’s true, maybe it’s not…

9 = 8

by walkoffwalk on Sep 11, 2008 2:00 AM EDT reply actions  

i thaught i read somewhere

that if you warm up like more then x times, you waste bullets and you can injury yourself… too bad rays didn’t score any runs with the bases loaded 1 time, or this might not have happened

by Underdogs on Sep 11, 2008 8:08 AM EDT up reply actions  

fernando perez....

is this guy a stud or what? will the rays be making room for him in the OF what baout having upton eat something and move him over the RF?? and put perez in center???

by metsjetssixers on Sep 11, 2008 1:02 PM EDT reply actions  

SSS

Upton is better than Perez anyways.

by R.J. Anderson on Sep 11, 2008 1:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

hmmm

upton has a stonger arm… does not cover more ground…. but obvi upton has a better bat…. perez is faster… do we really see gabe gross, eric “the king of queens” hienski, or baldelli out there ever day in right field??

by metsjetssixers on Sep 11, 2008 2:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

No

Perez isn’t a stud. IMO, he’s a good fourth outfielder who could be a servicable starter on some teams. The comp I’ve always used is switch-hitting Dave Roberts.

On THIS team, I’m not sure he’s even ideal as a fourth outfielder. As long as Gross is on the team our fourth OF should be a guy who can kill lefty pitching. Perez hits lefties a little better than righties, but not enough so to make it worth it.

If we don’t sign anyone new, I’d be perfectly happy with him being the 4th outfielder, but I honestly hope we sign or trade for someone, and ideally that someone would either platoon with Gross or push Gross into the 4th OF spot. Perez has two options left, and I suspect he’ll start next year in Durham again, and he the first callup if someone gets hurt.

Vogt early, Vogt often.

by Brickhaus on Sep 11, 2008 2:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

gross is garbage...

do you think the rays resign CC? don’t think he’s worth the money… always injured…

by metsjetssixers on Sep 11, 2008 2:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

Gross is far from grabage

and the Rays have already picked up CC’s option for net year.

Dear god NO DAN JOHNSON - thebaddancingraysfan hours before DanJo hit a game tying HR off Papelbon.

by Vin on Sep 11, 2008 3:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

CC's not a free agent until after 2009

He’ll be here next year.

Vogt early, Vogt often.

by Brickhaus on Sep 11, 2008 3:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

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