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Boston Red Sox at Tampa Bay Rays, Sep 15, 2008 7:10 PM EDT


Boston at RAYS

7:10; FSN Florida
RAYS RADIO/1250 AM

Pitching Matchup:


 IP tRA + K/9 BB/9 K/BB HR/9 OPS WHIP G/F P/IP
BOS RH D. Matsuzaka
 151.2 4.24 112 8.07 5.52 1.55 0.59 .653 1.36 0.91 17.29
RAYS LH S. Kazmir
 138.1 3.92 121 9.82 4.10 2.40 0.98 .676 1.22 0.65 17.91

GO RAYS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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FIRST LOL

biggest series in history?

ESPN says yes! and they know everything!

by Acadien on Sep 15, 2008 5:50 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Second

I’d say biggest so far in history.

by rglass44 on Sep 15, 2008 5:54 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Since we took two out of three

in the last biggest series in team history, I feel pretty good about today.

by Vin on Sep 15, 2008 5:55 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Iwamura 2B
Bartlett SS
Pena 1B
Longoria 3B
FLoyd DH
Navarro C
Hinske LF
Gross RF
Perez CF

by Vin on Sep 15, 2008 5:56 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Hopefully we don't collapse

I’ve really gotten to like Joe.

by rglass44 on Sep 15, 2008 5:57 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

HAHAHA

they know what is good for ya

i come over from OTM to wish you all an exciting series : )

have fun guys (though not too much maybe)

by OilCanBoyd on Sep 15, 2008 7:09 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

no oh wow from me

not for you boston fan.

by HAHAHA OH WOW on Sep 15, 2008 7:12 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

i saw this on my computer for the 1st time yesterday

i just wanted to flush my computer down the toilet for having a piece of shit on it

"It felt good to be out there, I wasn't nervous anymore, and I felt like I belonged out there." -David Price after his ML debut.

by RaysOfHope on Sep 15, 2008 7:16 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Coco Crisp

HIT HIM IN THE HEAD

by Acadien on Sep 15, 2008 7:12 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

great start Kaz

fucking to Crisp also

by joeybw on Sep 15, 2008 7:13 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

wtfMeals

Brad Ziegler had a scoreless inning streak. Brad Ziegler had not met BJ Upton.

by P Brady on Sep 15, 2008 7:14 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Yes.

Brad Ziegler had a scoreless inning streak. Brad Ziegler had not met BJ Upton.

by P Brady on Sep 15, 2008 7:15 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

HOW WAS THAT A BALL?

Brad Ziegler had a scoreless inning streak. Brad Ziegler had not met BJ Upton.

by P Brady on Sep 15, 2008 7:15 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

hinske gross perez

ehhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh …… eh? EHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

by davelrogers on Sep 15, 2008 7:15 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Great Fucking Start

Brad Ziegler had a scoreless inning streak. Brad Ziegler had not met BJ Upton.

by P Brady on Sep 15, 2008 7:16 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Think Niemann

Will caddie for Kaz tonight?

by staplemaniac on Sep 15, 2008 7:17 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I hope this team isn't goin in a tailspin now

This is two straight games where the starters have gotten bombed in the first inning

by sofladude77 on Sep 15, 2008 7:18 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

what a awful start

I hope Dice K cant find the zone either

and now we needed a nice player from Hinske, jesus

by joeybw on Sep 15, 2008 7:18 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

fuck you stoner kaz we dont need this shit today

"It felt good to be out there, I wasn't nervous anymore, and I felt like I belonged out there." -David Price after his ML debut.

by RaysOfHope on Sep 15, 2008 7:18 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Oh fuck, warm up Talbot

Brad Ziegler had a scoreless inning streak. Brad Ziegler had not met BJ Upton.

by P Brady on Sep 15, 2008 7:19 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

wow

just wow

its expected from Jackson what the FUCK is this

by joeybw on Sep 15, 2008 7:19 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

wow this really fucking sucks balls

they should warm up niemann or talbot soon before this game gets TOO out of control

"It felt good to be out there, I wasn't nervous anymore, and I felt like I belonged out there." -David Price after his ML debut.

by RaysOfHope on Sep 15, 2008 7:21 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

eh he looks better now

too bad he already fucking gave up 4 runs

by joeybw on Sep 15, 2008 7:22 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

This xPie

Sign lady must die.

by EminenceFront on Sep 15, 2008 7:23 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

What?

Brad Ziegler had a scoreless inning streak. Brad Ziegler had not met BJ Upton.

by P Brady on Sep 15, 2008 7:24 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'm hungry.

Meant Pi

Sign lady must die.

by EminenceFront on Sep 15, 2008 7:25 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

he means pi

you know, 3.141592653589793… that’s all I can remember these days.

by rglass44 on Sep 15, 2008 7:25 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

hope the Trop

doesn’t go back to being Red Sox Nation

by sofladude77 on Sep 15, 2008 7:23 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

yeah

we play good when we’re behind. right? right?@!?!?

by daveh33 on Sep 15, 2008 7:25 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Dice K

will get the calls that Kaz didn’t

this is the ump who called BJ out for “going to 2nd”

by joeybw on Sep 15, 2008 7:25 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Well. I chose the wrong time to start following this game.

Yesterday's Pants
A blog-thingy about the Mariners and stuff.

by BrettJMiller on Sep 15, 2008 7:26 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Yeah.

All the teams I like are made of lose right now though, so that doesn’t really help. Depressing time to like the teams I like :(

Yesterday's Pants
A blog-thingy about the Mariners and stuff.

by BrettJMiller on Sep 15, 2008 7:28 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

But Seahawks 0-2, Mariners have to play .430 ball to not lose 100, Rays may only get the wild card. Not a good time to be me.

Especially since I was at the Seahawks game yesterday :(

Yesterday's Pants
A blog-thingy about the Mariners and stuff.

by BrettJMiller on Sep 15, 2008 7:33 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

The Seahawks aren't supposed to lose at home. :(

We’re now like 22-4 at home since 2005. How do we lose to the damn 49ers?!

Yesterday's Pants
A blog-thingy about the Mariners and stuff.

by BrettJMiller on Sep 15, 2008 7:35 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Take a look at our depth chart at WR

1. Deion Branch (out till next week at earliest)
2. Bobby Engram (out till next week at earliest)
3. Nate Burleson (out for season after first game ACL injury)
4. Logan Payne (out for season after knee injury yesterday)
5. Seneca Wallace (out for 4-6 weeks after calf strain before yesterday’s game, is also our backup QB)
6. Jordan Kent (cut, signed to practice squad)
7. Courtney Taylor (drafted 4th round or something last year, has potential but isn’t there yet)
8. Michael Bumpus (now starting, undrafted free agent from Washington State that was on practice squad to start season)
9. Billy McMullen (hasn’t played in the NFL in like 3 years, signed last week and is now starting for us, fumbled the ball when we would’ve gotten at least 3 points and we would’ve won, avoiding OT)

Our defense got 8 sacks, a defensive TD, and had three or four more pressures that just had the QB scrambling. Julius Jones ran for 127 yards. And yet somehow our WRs and “Free Safety” Brian Russell lost it for us. (Also, one of Hasselbeck’s picks was dropped by our receiver then SF caught it)

It’s been a dark since the Hawks lost in February to Green Bay for me.

Yesterday's Pants
A blog-thingy about the Mariners and stuff.

by BrettJMiller on Sep 15, 2008 7:41 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

fuck this fucking umpire

I know Kaz sucked but this umpire is being an incosistent POS

by joeybw on Sep 15, 2008 7:27 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

LOL

I love how Pena asked to check.

Sign lady must die.

by EminenceFront on Sep 15, 2008 7:30 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

lets just get gomes out here and beat the shit out of coco again

"It felt good to be out there, I wasn't nervous anymore, and I felt like I belonged out there." -David Price after his ML debut.

by RaysOfHope on Sep 15, 2008 7:30 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

shit new england still wins without tom brady

i hate all of those teams in boston so much

"It felt good to be out there, I wasn't nervous anymore, and I felt like I belonged out there." -David Price after his ML debut.

by RaysOfHope on Sep 15, 2008 7:33 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

went around my ass

and found a whole pile of creamy jif

by HAHAHA OH WOW on Sep 15, 2008 7:31 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

2 out hit

wake me when he gets in

by joeybw on Sep 15, 2008 7:32 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

time for longo to hit one into the seats

"It felt good to be out there, I wasn't nervous anymore, and I felt like I belonged out there." -David Price after his ML debut.

by RaysOfHope on Sep 15, 2008 7:34 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

2 out runners

give me odds that we score

by joeybw on Sep 15, 2008 7:35 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

<0%

9=8
TRUE Seminole

by JMB on Sep 15, 2008 7:37 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Cliff's due, yo

9=8
TRUE Seminole

by JMB on Sep 15, 2008 7:35 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

WALK THE WORLD

Brad Ziegler had a scoreless inning streak. Brad Ziegler had not met BJ Upton.

by P Brady on Sep 15, 2008 7:35 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Dice-K's pitches go:

1) Side to side
2) Paint da corna
3) Lefta circle, righta circle.

Sign lady must die.

by EminenceFront on Sep 15, 2008 7:35 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Two smart at bats in a row

Now it’s big Cliffs turn

by Penaholic on Sep 15, 2008 7:35 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

i cant i just can

when the hell is BJ coming back? I thought he was going to DH in this series

by joeybw on Sep 15, 2008 7:37 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Wow

Cliff might have gotten a break there

by sofladude77 on Sep 15, 2008 7:37 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

3 straight full counts

every single time we K tonight i am going to slam something

by joeybw on Sep 15, 2008 7:38 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

so this ump sucks

both ways, its gonna be a long night for pitchers

by sofladude77 on Sep 15, 2008 7:38 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

AIM BETTER

Brad Ziegler had a scoreless inning streak. Brad Ziegler had not met BJ Upton.

by P Brady on Sep 15, 2008 7:38 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

FUCK YOUK

9=8
TRUE Seminole

by JMB on Sep 15, 2008 7:39 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

TRY HARDER

Sign lady must die.

by EminenceFront on Sep 15, 2008 7:39 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

wtf with the great D lately

….for the other team

and Statts getting excited only got me angrier

by joeybw on Sep 15, 2008 7:39 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

F

I’m going to the gym. Hopefully the Eagles will win and score a lot. Something has to give tonight. I need to at least get that paper.

by rglass44 on Sep 15, 2008 7:40 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

i would go to bed if i was you, youre in for a long night with these 2 pitchers and this ump

both of these guys put alot of people of base

"It felt good to be out there, I wasn't nervous anymore, and I felt like I belonged out there." -David Price after his ML debut.

by RaysOfHope on Sep 15, 2008 7:41 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

You're right it's going to be a long night

Because we’re going to win this one in extra innings!!!

by Penaholic on Sep 15, 2008 7:43 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

oh god this is gonna be annoying one

we will have base runners every inning against Dice K

by joeybw on Sep 15, 2008 7:41 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Tek with the stare down

do something

i hate this fucking umpire

by joeybw on Sep 15, 2008 7:42 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Oh my god what the fuck

Brad Ziegler had a scoreless inning streak. Brad Ziegler had not met BJ Upton.

by P Brady on Sep 15, 2008 7:42 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Both Maddon and Francona

have the issues with the ump, its sure a hitters night

by sofladude77 on Sep 15, 2008 7:42 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

this umpire works for the Red Sox

he is sure as hell against the Rays

fuck him

fuck him

FUCK him

by joeybw on Sep 15, 2008 7:43 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

hit this piece of shit and pull his hair and stratch his eyes

"It felt good to be out there, I wasn't nervous anymore, and I felt like I belonged out there." -David Price after his ML debut.

by RaysOfHope on Sep 15, 2008 7:45 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

heh

Aki smacked Ellsbury’s head on the tag

by joeybw on Sep 15, 2008 7:46 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

alcohol is doing nothing for me right now

I wanna beat the shit out of this umpire

same fag who made the worst call ever against BJ, how about he lets the 2 teams play the game? Did he dream of being a player when he was young?

And you’re damn right I am fucking bitter right now

by joeybw on Sep 15, 2008 7:48 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

i got an idea of aki

if coco gets on base tonight and he is coming for second closeline him

"It felt good to be out there, I wasn't nervous anymore, and I felt like I belonged out there." -David Price after his ML debut.

by RaysOfHope on Sep 15, 2008 7:48 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Also, why?

Navi didn’t do anything.

by Vin on Sep 15, 2008 7:48 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I kinda just chose a player and went with it.

Also, is that really too big? I mean, really? I’d llike to think its not disruptive…

by Acadien on Sep 15, 2008 7:50 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

0 Runs is an improvement

Brad Ziegler had a scoreless inning streak. Brad Ziegler had not met BJ Upton.

by P Brady on Sep 15, 2008 7:48 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

i bet there will be a fight

and it will be because of the umpire pissing everyone off, not because of the Red Sox.

DAMNIT RJ, say “haha fuck the Red Sox” please, I need something.

by joeybw on Sep 15, 2008 7:50 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Jerry Meals.

Brad Ziegler had a scoreless inning streak. Brad Ziegler had not met BJ Upton.

by P Brady on Sep 15, 2008 7:52 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Why the hell is he umpiring?

Fixed your post

Yesterday's Pants
A blog-thingy about the Mariners and stuff.

by BrettJMiller on Sep 15, 2008 7:54 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Doubt it

Brad Ziegler had a scoreless inning streak. Brad Ziegler had not met BJ Upton.

by P Brady on Sep 15, 2008 7:52 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

No.

Brad Ziegler had a scoreless inning streak. Brad Ziegler had not met BJ Upton.

by P Brady on Sep 15, 2008 7:54 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

There's a 99% chance we give up amongst the least.

Good pitching + good defense = not a ton of runs given up overall, not along the first.

by R.J. Anderson on Sep 15, 2008 7:53 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Magrane is right

Being Aggressive vs Dice K and he will eat you alive from the palm of his hand.

by sofladude77 on Sep 15, 2008 7:54 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

someone PLEASE tell me

why Hinske continues to be in the lineup?

by joeybw on Sep 15, 2008 7:55 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Because he has an .800 OPS?

Yesterday's Pants
A blog-thingy about the Mariners and stuff.

by BrettJMiller on Sep 15, 2008 7:56 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

hes useless

only have to watch the games to know that

by joeybw on Sep 15, 2008 7:56 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

sigh

this has been fun

we better remove our heads from asses and kill the umpire and we better do both quick

by joeybw on Sep 15, 2008 8:00 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

but Mike Timlin

won’t be used unless its a last resort

by sofladude77 on Sep 15, 2008 8:01 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

this.

i think the Angels or the White Sox will eat him up in the playoffs… power hitting

by daveh33 on Sep 15, 2008 8:01 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Should I just go ahead and start pirating Spore?

Brad Ziegler had a scoreless inning streak. Brad Ziegler had not met BJ Upton.

by P Brady on Sep 15, 2008 8:01 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

What is it?

I’ve seen the name but haven’t checked it out.

by Vin on Sep 15, 2008 8:03 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Evolution game from The Guy who made The Sims

Brad Ziegler had a scoreless inning streak. Brad Ziegler had not met BJ Upton.

by P Brady on Sep 15, 2008 8:04 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Wha?

Brad Ziegler had a scoreless inning streak. Brad Ziegler had not met BJ Upton.

by P Brady on Sep 15, 2008 8:06 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

we just have to get to Papelbon

anyone else see him barely survive yesterday againt the jays? (and with the major help of another umpire)

by daveh33 on Sep 15, 2008 8:02 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

so he has been like percy lately?

"It felt good to be out there, I wasn't nervous anymore, and I felt like I belonged out there." -David Price after his ML debut.

by RaysOfHope on Sep 15, 2008 8:04 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think

Papelbon’s workload has been too much

by sofladude77 on Sep 15, 2008 8:05 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Navi tryed to fuck that up

I thought the homeplate umpire was gonna come out and push him

by joeybw on Sep 15, 2008 8:03 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Kaz has trouble with secondary pitches

thats why he throws the fastball a lot

by sofladude77 on Sep 15, 2008 8:08 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Meh,

I’ll mind this a lot less when he’s the second best lefty in the rotation.

by Vin on Sep 15, 2008 8:08 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

its the dissapointed talking

I thought he was just gonna set the Sox down tonight and his control combined with the ump proved me very wrong

by joeybw on Sep 15, 2008 8:09 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

You know they have to have some kind of study that tells them where their attendance is coming from and where it's not.

I seriously thought of trying to find a way to get to this game. Then I had to work late again. I’m a little bitter that I can’t make these games.

by kericr on Sep 15, 2008 8:15 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I didn't believe this at first.

But now, I do. St. Pete can have the arts and put just another place for bums to sleep at Al Lang. But they can’t support baseball and it’s obvious.

Sign lady must die.

by EminenceFront on Sep 15, 2008 8:15 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

...Yay for twisting peoples words?

Brad Ziegler had a scoreless inning streak. Brad Ziegler had not met BJ Upton.

by P Brady on Sep 15, 2008 8:21 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I agree.

Just saying, Todd asked the question. Stu didn’t just vent on attendance.

Sign lady must die.

by EminenceFront on Sep 15, 2008 8:22 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

He's posted on here about attendance before.

We’ve also seen that teams get the jump the year AFTER winning a ton. It’s a dead issue to me.

by R.J. Anderson on Sep 15, 2008 8:22 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I go weeks without thinking about attendance or moving the team to Tampa.

The Bucs aren’t even selling out too many games in advance.

by R.J. Anderson on Sep 15, 2008 8:21 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

THISTHISTHIS

Brad Ziegler had a scoreless inning streak. Brad Ziegler had not met BJ Upton.

by P Brady on Sep 15, 2008 8:22 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

You've brought it before.

Nothing good usually comes from it.

by R.J. Anderson on Sep 15, 2008 8:21 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Aki!

Tools Whore

Sign Bonds!

by Tyler on Sep 15, 2008 8:13 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

BANZAI!

Sign lady must die.

by EminenceFront on Sep 15, 2008 8:13 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

AKI

U BEUATIFUL BASTID

by HAHAHA OH WOW on Sep 15, 2008 8:13 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

GO AKI, FUCK YOURSELF SIGN GUY

Brad Ziegler had a scoreless inning streak. Brad Ziegler had not met BJ Upton.

by P Brady on Sep 15, 2008 8:13 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

YES.

IT’S CATCHING ON!!!!

Sign lady must die.

by EminenceFront on Sep 15, 2008 8:16 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

we broke the egg

now lets make the omelette

Yeah, I have been playing The Show too much lately

by joeybw on Sep 15, 2008 8:14 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

is 08 that much better than 07?

i dont have a ps3 or a HDTV. im considering holding off till 09 but 07 is fun

by HAHAHA OH WOW on Sep 15, 2008 8:16 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

bartlett in second hole is just stupid

"It felt good to be out there, I wasn't nervous anymore, and I felt like I belonged out there." -David Price after his ML debut.

by RaysOfHope on Sep 15, 2008 8:16 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

the hell with this

beating the Sox is hard enough, dont need to beat the umps also

by joeybw on Sep 15, 2008 8:19 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

AKIIIIII

well now that i am a little happy, its whisky time.

by daveh33 on Sep 15, 2008 8:20 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Please pull Kaz now

3 homeruns and 4 walks are enough

by Penaholic on Sep 15, 2008 8:23 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

At least we'll get to see Talbot.

I hate this consolation prize.

by Vin on Sep 15, 2008 8:25 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Kaz's mechanics

have never been there tonight. He needs to regroup for Saturday

by sofladude77 on Sep 15, 2008 8:25 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Fucking horrible.

Great job starters. Kaz, Jax, and Garza could NOT have choked harder enough.

by kericr on Sep 15, 2008 8:26 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

good night

time to watch something less shitty, this game will kill my liver

by joeybw on Sep 15, 2008 8:27 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

anyone think the rays regret giving kaz that extension?

he has been all over the place this year, he better step it up if he is going to be our game 1 starter for playoffs because i cant stand watching him pitch this year

"It felt good to be out there, I wasn't nervous anymore, and I felt like I belonged out there." -David Price after his ML debut.

by RaysOfHope on Sep 15, 2008 8:29 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

he was our stopper the last 2 times out when we were slumping

I guess he cant do it everytime

and I dont think they regret it. Signing a 24 year old to 10 mil a year is pretty good.

by joeybw on Sep 15, 2008 8:30 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Talbot!

Tools Whore

Sign Bonds!

by Tyler on Sep 15, 2008 8:30 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Quick question.

How many games have we lost by 5 or more runs?

I’m guessing not a lot. These kinds of losses happen sometimes.

Sign lady must die.

by EminenceFront on Sep 15, 2008 8:31 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

4 homeruns is bad enough

hits to Crisp are unacceptable

by joeybw on Sep 15, 2008 8:31 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

its nice that it could go down to 7

and extra nice that the Twins are playing like SHIT

but damn the division will be tied(we still have it by PCT I guess)

by joeybw on Sep 15, 2008 8:33 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

This is what I mean

when I say offense would go up when hitters wouldn’t have to worry about called strikes out of the zone.

by Vin on Sep 15, 2008 8:34 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I am actually looking forward to Sonny

he has a few terrible games but usually he is average or good, never know with all the other SP’s

I am guessing we see Niemann tmw as they are going by who is rested

by joeybw on Sep 15, 2008 8:34 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Meh,

I’d be more entertained by watching Fernie and Longo and Talbot I guess.

by Vin on Sep 15, 2008 8:41 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

3-0 Indians

I hate the Tribe but have to root for them tonight

by sofladude77 on Sep 15, 2008 8:41 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

This is all Rolando Arrojo's fault.

Everything was just gravy until Sonny went for that 14th win.

by Vin on Sep 15, 2008 8:44 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Speical feature of the Troy Percival figurine

All of them tick very loudly, and 1 out of 10 blow up.

by kericr on Sep 15, 2008 8:44 PM EDT reply actions   1 recs

REC'D LOL

Sign lady must die.

by EminenceFront on Sep 15, 2008 8:45 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

all of them

have a 40 inch waist, and a bad hammy

by sofladude77 on Sep 15, 2008 8:53 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Price > Kaz?

www.raysbb.com

Yes, we really do have fans.

by killa3312 on Sep 15, 2008 8:48 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

This is possible.

It’s also possible that he’s afraid of hurting his elbow so he doesn’t throw his slider and doesn’t put as much movement on his fastball. I also wonder if his FB velocity is down this year.

by kericr on Sep 15, 2008 8:51 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I should have read what I typed

What I meant to say was “It’s also possible that he’s afraid of hurting his elbow so he doesn’t throw his slider and when he does he has a hard time targeting it. I also wonder if his FB velocity is down this year.”

by kericr on Sep 15, 2008 8:56 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Dude, its one start

Brad Ziegler had a scoreless inning streak. Brad Ziegler had not met BJ Upton.

by P Brady on Sep 15, 2008 8:49 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Kazmir's season has been odd.

Bendix pointed out to me when I mentioned I hoped we got the good Kazmir. His numbers aren’t bad, but in some ways he’s like Carl. We’ve known for a few years that he needed to use his other pitches and avoid long innings, yet he’s shown very little progress in either regard.

He is a good pitcher this year and overall yet it’s not a stretch to say he can’t be and shouldn’t be better at this point. Unless of course he is hurt, then I would ask why he’s being allowed to throw.

by R.J. Anderson on Sep 15, 2008 8:53 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Well, based on what I've seen

Kaz not only has inferior stuff to Price, he doesn’t have near his command or poise, either. And I’m one of those who ripped people earlier in the year for saying Price would be better than Kaz. His velocity never got back to the mid-90s second half form of last season and his command is worse than ever.

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by killa3312 on Sep 15, 2008 8:54 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Changeup is better

The slider is debatable. Price’s is harder and when on, has close to as much movement. I’m just concerned with Kaz, period. He was throwing 93-96 the entire second half last season, and hasn’t gotten close to that form at all this year. He has to be injured, he is not this bad of a pitcher.

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by killa3312 on Sep 15, 2008 8:57 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

The average velocity is the same.

But he only topped out at ~94 tonight. That doesn’t seem very Kazmir-ish.

by R.J. Anderson on Sep 15, 2008 9:00 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

My arguement for Kazmir's slider:

Price does throw his harder, but it doesn’t have the insane tight, sharp, late break. Price’s really good, but I just think Kazmirs is more deceptive.

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by Tyler on Sep 15, 2008 9:01 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

It makes it more deceptive, sure.

But at the same time the hitter is going from 94+ FB to 88+ SL with a slight break in towards righties, that’s no cake walk.

by R.J. Anderson on Sep 15, 2008 9:07 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Additionally

Price is more of a groundball pitcher than Kaz. I am Kaz’s biggest fan and still think he’s going to be great, but I underestimated Price earlier in the season. He’s going to be a really, really good MLB pitcher for a long time. There’s what, 2, maybe 3 LH starting pitchers that throw as hard as consistently as Price?

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by killa3312 on Sep 15, 2008 9:10 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Sabathia can on occasion

Liriano obviously used to before his injury, but not anymore.

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by killa3312 on Sep 15, 2008 9:13 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

He had dropped to 92-93 in the 7th

and then got it back and blew Giambi away on nothing but 95 MPH heaters to end the frame. The fact that Price’s fastball at its worst is still better than most lefties’ heaters speaks to how good that pitch is.

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by killa3312 on Sep 15, 2008 9:30 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

It's sad that I have more faith in a rookie

with 5.1 IP behind his belt at this point than Kazmir. Even when he pitches well this year, he can’t make it past 5 innings with any consistency.

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by killa3312 on Sep 15, 2008 9:06 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Price is pretty damn impressive.

I have nothing negative to say about his outing. It was nearly flawless.

by R.J. Anderson on Sep 15, 2008 9:09 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

This.

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by Tyler on Sep 15, 2008 9:10 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

He didn't use his change-up.

There, there’s something bad, I think. I’m not even sure that’s a bad thing.

by R.J. Anderson on Sep 15, 2008 9:11 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

He never does.

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by Tyler on Sep 15, 2008 9:12 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Hey, its 1 game

Its not like football were you have to wait a hole week. We still kick ass tomorrow!

by colts9318rock on Sep 15, 2008 8:54 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

This is Mitch Talbot in a nutshell

He’s either great or terrible. There is practically no middle ground.

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by killa3312 on Sep 15, 2008 8:58 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Rallytime?

Sign lady must die.

by EminenceFront on Sep 15, 2008 9:09 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Good thing we called up Price, Niemann, and Talbot

We can at least eat some innings and rebound tomorrow

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by JMB on Sep 15, 2008 9:12 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs