All the M&Ms Are Yellow
Remember when I posted this chart following Andy Sonnanstine's gem against Boston?
I decided to do the same thing again for his start Tuesday night.

They look at least a bit similar, no? Here's the breakdown in table form:
| Sonnanstine v. Boston | |||||
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Pitch | AVG MPH | H-Break | V-Break | % Thrown | Strike% |
| FA | 89.39 | -3.28 | 8.52 | 37 | 52.78 |
| SL | 78.47 | 5.25 | 2.16 | 15 | 78.57 |
| CU | 76.55 | 6.73 | -1.32 | 21 | 60 |
| FC | 88.53 | -0.85 | 8.28 | 27 | 84.62 |
| Sonnnanstine v. Boston (Take 2) | |||||
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Pitch | AVG MPH | H-Break | V-Break | % Thrown | Strike% |
| FA | 87.69 | -2.85 | 7.36 | 14 | 53.85 |
| SL | 84.78 | 4.49 | 5.17 | 18 | 64.71 |
| CU | 76.18 | 10.14 | -1.63 | 30 | 67.86 |
| FC | 87.75 | 1.56 | 8.95 | 38 | 65.71 |
(FA: fastball, SL: slider, CU: curve, FC: cutter)
A few observations:
1. Whether intentional or not, Sonnanstine threw his fastball with less velocity.
2. Again, whether intentional or not, Sonnanstine's cutter actually changed horizontal break directions. Going away from righties rather than inside.
3. Sonnanstine' s curve broke away from righties more and harder.
4. His slider completely changed amount of vertical break.
5. He mixed up his selection quite a bit.
Whether or not some of those points are simply due to errors by the classification is beyond me. Either way Sonnanstine is the only of the three starters who avoided the long-ball against perhaps the best hitting team in the majors and only gave up one line drive in 13 innings with eight swinging strikes, 19 groundballs, 12 strikeouts, and two walks.
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Very interesting.
I like to see that he mixed up his pitches and the way they break. That shows that he is staying ahead of them and making them adjust to his new pitches. Sonny is a good pitcher. I think the changes were intentional though and that is what makes him great. Very Poor man’s Maddux (which is not a bad thing Maddux is one of the best of all time) in that he seems to be a very intelligent pitcher.
Top Josh Paul Pornos- Big Navi Stroking, 2pitchers1cup, BJ to the Balls, Riggans Your Thingans
BELIEVE in 08!
Oh and I like the Lupe reference
Top Josh Paul Pornos- Big Navi Stroking, 2pitchers1cup, BJ to the Balls, Riggans Your Thingans
BELIEVE in 08!
You have to think he will only be better in the future
as he continues to learn guys tendencies and learns what he can and cannot get away with. I’m very happy for Sonny as he has had, and continues to have, his share of doubters and through it all has been quiet and efficient.
Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't matter, and those who matter don't mind.
by Sandy Kazmir on Sep 18, 2008 1:40 PM EDT up reply actions
i'm curious what Josh Kalk's number have to say about all this
He’s done a lot of correcting of raw data for differences in stadiums’ pitch f/x systems.
Beyond the Boxscore // Calling BJ Upton lazy is lazy.
about the 6 mph increase on his slider?
9 = 8
by walkoffwalk on Sep 19, 2008 10:14 AM EDT up reply actions
about all the differences between his pitches between starts
Beyond the Boxscore // Calling BJ Upton lazy is lazy.
by Sky Kalkman on Sep 20, 2008 10:44 AM EDT up reply actions
Sonny and Shields are the pitchers I wanted to see most when I went to games.
Instead I saw Garza twice, Kaz once, and now Kaz again on Saturday.
Nice look at Sonny RJ. Remember your look at Garza, with animated gifs and everything? What about doing that for Sonny? It would be interesting to do a feature just on Sonny’s pitches.
Wasn't my piece.
That was elsewhere. Either SaberScouting or DrivelineMechanics. I don’t know biomechanics and I won’t pretend that I do.
by R.J. Anderson on Sep 19, 2008 12:40 PM EDT up reply actions
but that's the cool thing to do these days -- pretend you know biomechanics
Beyond the Boxscore // Calling BJ Upton lazy is lazy.
by Sky Kalkman on Sep 20, 2008 10:45 AM EDT up reply actions

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