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9/19: MIN (83-70) at RAYS (90-61)

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Minnesota Twins at Tampa Bay Rays, Sep 19, 2008 7:10 PM EDT


Minnesota at RAYS

7:10; FSN Florida/ESPN
RAYS RADIO/1250 AM

Pitching Matchup:


 IP tRA + K/9 BB/9 K/BB HR/9 OPS WHIP G/F P/IP
MIN RH N. Blackburn
 180.2 4.75 100 4.53 1.54 2.94 1.05 .752 1.31 1.27 14.77
RAYS RH E. Jackson
 168.1 5.66 84 5.29 3.90 1.36 1.18 .794 1.49 0.96 16.54

GO RAYS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Hinske's back in, but at least he's dropped to 8th.

Akinori Iwamura, 2B
Jason Bartlett, SS (yeah, still)
Carlos Pena, 1B
Evan Longoria, 3B
Cliff Floyd, DH
Dioner Navarro, C
Gabe Gross, RF
Eric Hinske, LF
Fernando Perez, CF

by Vin on Sep 19, 2008 5:32 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

No. That was me.

Tools Whore

Sign Bonds!

by Tyler on Sep 19, 2008 5:53 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

...are you sure?

I’ve been on this for over a month now.

by Vin on Sep 19, 2008 5:54 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I know you've always mega-loathed his defense.

But his April and June should have given you enough to not hate him entirely until at least mid August.

Meh, the important thing is we both hate him now.

by Vin on Sep 19, 2008 6:01 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Hinske isn't that terrible

as long as he doesn’t play in the field. He has legitimate 20-25 HR pop and has had his share of good games for the Rays this year. I can’t hate on him too much.

www.raysbb.com

Yes, we really do have fans.

by killa3312 on Sep 19, 2008 6:03 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I can hate on him. He plays the field, which is bad (I realize it's not his decision).

And for the second half of the season, he’s hit roughly like Adam Kennedy.

Tools Whore

Sign Bonds!

by Tyler on Sep 19, 2008 6:07 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Dude, he is that terrible.

From June 29th up until today, he’s been absolutely putrid.

He had an amazing April and a pretty great June, but outside of that he’s been awfully bad.

His post ASB break OPS is down to .630.

by Vin on Sep 19, 2008 6:08 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I guess it's time for another episode of Eric Hinske's September OPS watch...

.171/.237/.200 – .437 OPS.

So, what do you guys think? Does it go up or down today?

by Vin on Sep 19, 2008 5:53 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Up

He’s set the threshold so low that I’m betting he gets on base at least once to raise his OBP.

by Patrick L. Kennedy on Sep 19, 2008 6:58 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

None of these Twins pitchers have very imposing numbers

They’re all extremely hittable and give up tons of HRs. We’ll need a good performance from the offense tonight with E-Jax on the bump.

www.raysbb.com

Yes, we really do have fans.

by killa3312 on Sep 19, 2008 5:53 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Zobrist has been unlucky in terms of BABIP.

But even so he’s not as good in left as Ruggiano. Compared to Hinske’s 36 chances in left Zobrist is 6.2 plays (or ~5 runs) better while Ruggiano is 14.42 plays better (or ~11.5 runs). Obviously Zobrist and Ruggiano’s splits are about half each of what Hinske has, but Ruggiano really should be playing in the outfield over Zobrist.

by R.J. Anderson on Sep 19, 2008 6:32 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

MVP:

8th inning PH Beeeeeeeeeeeeeeej Uptonnnnnnnn

Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't matter, and those who matter don't mind.

by Sandy Kazmir on Sep 19, 2008 7:02 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Also

Does Min pitch to Longoria or does he see unintentional intentional walks all night?

Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't matter, and those who matter don't mind.

by Sandy Kazmir on Sep 19, 2008 7:03 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

surprise surprise

Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't matter, and those who matter don't mind.

by Sandy Kazmir on Sep 19, 2008 7:11 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

leadoff walk

95 on that last pitch was nice

Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't matter, and those who matter don't mind.

by Sandy Kazmir on Sep 19, 2008 7:17 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

sigh Edwin

why cant you pretend not to suck?

by joeybw on Sep 19, 2008 7:17 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

good job

plz get 1 more

by joeybw on Sep 19, 2008 7:18 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Aki tripppi

Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't matter, and those who matter don't mind.

by Sandy Kazmir on Sep 19, 2008 7:23 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

he's what 22 and he already looks rotund

not a good sign

Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't matter, and those who matter don't mind.

by Sandy Kazmir on Sep 19, 2008 7:24 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

not like he gives a shit anyway

he will get himself a gym membership before his 1st contract season

by joeybw on Sep 19, 2008 7:25 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

That works

Brad Ziegler had a scoreless inning streak. Brad Ziegler had not met BJ Upton.

by P Brady on Sep 19, 2008 7:24 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Jason Bartlett is a run producer

Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't matter, and those who matter don't mind.

by Sandy Kazmir on Sep 19, 2008 7:24 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Senor Pain needs a hawk

Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't matter, and those who matter don't mind.

by Sandy Kazmir on Sep 19, 2008 7:26 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

god i love pena

here comes my hero

by joeybw on Sep 19, 2008 7:27 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

How fast is time?

Does it travel one minute a minute?

by kurby on Sep 19, 2008 7:28 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I would think it would depend on the string that you reside upon

Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't matter, and those who matter don't mind.

by Sandy Kazmir on Sep 19, 2008 7:29 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

i have a question

If Pena is slower than time, what in gods name is Navi?

by joeybw on Sep 19, 2008 7:29 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Longlorious

Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't matter, and those who matter don't mind.

by Sandy Kazmir on Sep 19, 2008 7:28 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

hes injured still

wont give us anything this year

by joeybw on Sep 19, 2008 7:30 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

EVAN IS BACK

Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't matter, and those who matter don't mind.

by Sandy Kazmir on Sep 19, 2008 7:30 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

MOAR RUNS

Brad Ziegler had a scoreless inning streak. Brad Ziegler had not met BJ Upton.

by P Brady on Sep 19, 2008 7:30 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

wooot woot Big Red

Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't matter, and those who matter don't mind.

by Sandy Kazmir on Sep 19, 2008 7:30 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

oh shit

time to get Cliff more vicodin

by joeybw on Sep 19, 2008 7:32 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I would feel a whole lot better

if Jackson wasnt starting, we need like 10 more runs.

by joeybw on Sep 19, 2008 7:34 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Liriano aside

All these Twins pitchers are extremely hittable.

www.raysbb.com

Yes, we really do have fans.

by killa3312 on Sep 19, 2008 7:36 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

and he was the worst last start

i hope he brings the same stuff on Sunday

by joeybw on Sep 19, 2008 7:36 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Now would be a good time to mention RISP regression

Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't matter, and those who matter don't mind.

by Sandy Kazmir on Sep 19, 2008 7:37 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Delmon v. Edwin.

Holy crap this should be full of fun.

by R.J. Anderson on Sep 19, 2008 7:37 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

/miss
/miss
/miss
/miss
/foultip
/miss
/miss
/miss

by ReasonableDoubt on Sep 19, 2008 7:39 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Ugh.

Thats the clumsiest ninja turtle I’ve ever seen.

by Vin on Sep 19, 2008 7:39 PM EDT reply actions   1 recs

Delmon swinging at ball 4 makes me smile

Brad Ziegler had a scoreless inning streak. Brad Ziegler had not met BJ Upton.

by P Brady on Sep 19, 2008 7:40 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

In'N'Out Burger...

or whatever it’s called… out west. I’ve heard people rave about them… Anyone had one?

All things LONGORIA!

by RalphieTheRay on Sep 19, 2008 7:51 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

It's out fucking standing

but you gotta know the menu cuz they only list like 2 things but theres a million combinations

Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't matter, and those who matter don't mind.

by Sandy Kazmir on Sep 19, 2008 8:00 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

and what do you recommend?

I’ll be in AZ next month and LV in November. I’m going to have to try it out. I don’t travel much, but by coincidence I will be alot shortly.

All things LONGORIA!

by RalphieTheRay on Sep 19, 2008 8:08 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Who is unavilable tonight?

I am assuming just Price(his start is getting too close!) and Wheeler(doghouse for at least a game you would think)

by joeybw on Sep 19, 2008 7:46 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

GGGG

Good Gabe Gross Grit

Brad Ziegler had a scoreless inning streak. Brad Ziegler had not met BJ Upton.

by P Brady on Sep 19, 2008 7:46 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Punto made a nice play

but as far as the throw…..a certain team from Minnesota may miss Barty

by joeybw on Sep 19, 2008 7:47 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

come on Shitske

take a walk, its the only way you are getting on

by joeybw on Sep 19, 2008 7:48 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Wait, Nando is our minor league player of the year?

Oh my goodness Tim Beckham get good, get good now.

by R.J. Anderson on Sep 19, 2008 7:50 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Hellboy, Davis, price, Jaso, and Matt Moore are not amused.

Brad Ziegler had a scoreless inning streak. Brad Ziegler had not met BJ Upton.

by P Brady on Sep 19, 2008 7:51 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I assume it's only for positional players.

Which means Jaso and Nando and…uh…Fronk?

by R.J. Anderson on Sep 19, 2008 7:52 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

...Get good Beckham/Otero, get good right now

Brad Ziegler had a scoreless inning streak. Brad Ziegler had not met BJ Upton.

by P Brady on Sep 19, 2008 7:52 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

ugh, sac bunt

Brad Ziegler had a scoreless inning streak. Brad Ziegler had not met BJ Upton.

by P Brady on Sep 19, 2008 7:50 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

his speed never stops impressing me

pretty bad bunt and he almost got on

by joeybw on Sep 19, 2008 7:51 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

AKI RESPECT

or more likely, BARTLETT DISRESPECT

by joeybw on Sep 19, 2008 7:51 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

OR MOST LIKELY

They want a DP from a GB PITCHER

by Cory Alexander on Sep 19, 2008 7:52 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

MAKE EM PAY C-PAIN

Brad Ziegler had a scoreless inning streak. Brad Ziegler had not met BJ Upton.

by P Brady on Sep 19, 2008 7:53 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

BARTY

now its time for a granny, Pena

by joeybw on Sep 19, 2008 7:53 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

blahblah attendance blahblah

i’m so tired of hearing about that shit

by mittens on Sep 19, 2008 7:56 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

also

Red Sox down 2-0 to Burnett in the 3rd, face Doc tomorrow

by joeybw on Sep 19, 2008 7:56 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

shut the fuck up you ESPN assholes

go sit in a REAL seat at the Trop and tell me you dont have a good time

by Acadien on Sep 19, 2008 7:57 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

hmmmm

green light?

by joeybw on Sep 19, 2008 7:57 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

No

Brad Ziegler had a scoreless inning streak. Brad Ziegler had not met BJ Upton.

by P Brady on Sep 19, 2008 7:57 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

THANKS FOR FOULING OF BALL FOUR C-PAIN

Brad Ziegler had a scoreless inning streak. Brad Ziegler had not met BJ Upton.

by P Brady on Sep 19, 2008 7:58 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

fuck

thats such a shitty strike 2 :(

by joeybw on Sep 19, 2008 7:58 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Bases Loaded for Longo...I'm wet

Brad Ziegler had a scoreless inning streak. Brad Ziegler had not met BJ Upton.

by P Brady on Sep 19, 2008 7:58 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Fuck

Brad Ziegler had a scoreless inning streak. Brad Ziegler had not met BJ Upton.

by P Brady on Sep 19, 2008 8:01 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Ahhhh fuck well...ILL TAKE IT

Is that a Sac Fly for Evan, or just an RBI?

by Acadien on Sep 19, 2008 8:02 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

i dont think its a rbi

becase of Barty, it was a DP

by joeybw on Sep 19, 2008 8:04 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Chat with Jerry Crasnick :

Brian (Tampa Bay): Got a two-part question for you today, Jerry. With the way Fernando Perez has stepped up his game on the field and at the plate, what are the chances the Rays try and move BJ Upton in the offseason? And which team(s) do you see making a bid for Upton should the Rays indeed try and trade him?

SportsNation Jerry Crasnick: Brian, Fernando Perez is certainly intriguing with his speed, but I don’t think the Rays are sufficiently convinced that he can hit at the big league level that they’ll trade BJ Upton. For what it’s worth, Upton is actually a year younger than Perez. If Andrew Friedman did throw Upton’s name out there, I can think of maybe 15 teams that would be quite interested.

by bucpimpin on Sep 19, 2008 8:03 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

If Jackson blows this, I will never trust him again

because i know its usually hit or miss but this would be the end

so, stay good, Jackson

by joeybw on Sep 19, 2008 8:07 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

great inning, again

just keep it rolling

by joeybw on Sep 19, 2008 8:08 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

go jays

with your…ridiculously ugly uniforms

jesus

by mittens on Sep 19, 2008 8:07 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

How about we just score 3 every inning?

I guess I am being a little too concerned with the pen but more plz!

by joeybw on Sep 19, 2008 8:09 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

i think so but

we want the division and we wont clinch that until very late so it wont matter

by joeybw on Sep 19, 2008 8:11 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

fuck that

I WANT TO BUY AN AL EAST DIVISION CHAMPS T-SHIRT

by Acadien on Sep 19, 2008 8:15 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

They keep saying how much weight Bonsner lost

I forgot how big he was but damn if he lost that much and still looks like this…..ok i have no idea how to finish that sentance

by joeybw on Sep 19, 2008 8:13 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

He likes sucking lard from the tub

Brad Ziegler had a scoreless inning streak. Brad Ziegler had not met BJ Upton.

by P Brady on Sep 19, 2008 8:14 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

"It would not surprise me if this man became a BIG TIME major league pitcher"

SHUT. THE. FUCK. UP.

All I need is J.M. to pop in and give his 10 cents on Ben Zobrist

by Acadien on Sep 19, 2008 8:20 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

its alright

we know better, next season Price will take his job and EJ will either be traded or pitch a inning or 2 out of the pen

Well, I hope anyway

by joeybw on Sep 19, 2008 8:22 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

wow

In Washington tonight, 58-95 San Diego faces 58-95 Washington

How many people you think went? (I dont know the answer but i would doubt it got sold out…..)

by joeybw on Sep 19, 2008 8:25 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I think he will be there

someone in the pen will be “hurt”

by joeybw on Sep 19, 2008 8:27 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

...What?

Brad Ziegler had a scoreless inning streak. Brad Ziegler had not met BJ Upton.

by P Brady on Sep 19, 2008 8:28 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

i know we all want to clinch

but just give me 2 straight wins

fuck cheering for Boston

by joeybw on Sep 19, 2008 8:30 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Best Names In Recent Baseball History

We need to get a list going.

1. Boof Bonser
2. Esteban Yan

by Acadien on Sep 19, 2008 8:30 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

true

as a kid during attendance… Is God present? …. No, that’s right….. God has the Chicken Pox and will be out for a week. If anyone recently was around God… you may be scratching alot soon.

All things LONGORIA!

by RalphieTheRay on Sep 19, 2008 8:37 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Attendance?

Brad Ziegler had a scoreless inning streak. Brad Ziegler had not met BJ Upton.

by P Brady on Sep 19, 2008 8:36 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

shit

Sox still up, got 1 run back

come on Burnett

by joeybw on Sep 19, 2008 8:37 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Fuck

Brad Ziegler had a scoreless inning streak. Brad Ziegler had not met BJ Upton.

by P Brady on Sep 19, 2008 8:37 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

wait

that better be a homerun

by joeybw on Sep 19, 2008 8:39 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Uhhhh

Brad Ziegler had a scoreless inning streak. Brad Ziegler had not met BJ Upton.

by P Brady on Sep 19, 2008 8:39 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

come on umps

dont fuck us here

by joeybw on Sep 19, 2008 8:39 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Trop = Replay Magnet

Brad Ziegler had a scoreless inning streak. Brad Ziegler had not met BJ Upton.

by P Brady on Sep 19, 2008 8:40 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

replay time

as long as they arent blind…..

by joeybw on Sep 19, 2008 8:40 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

shit

it needs to be very clear to be over turned and the camera angle(from what they have shown anyway) is not clear

by joeybw on Sep 19, 2008 8:41 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

C-PAIN

Brad Ziegler had a scoreless inning streak. Brad Ziegler had not met BJ Upton.

by P Brady on Sep 19, 2008 8:44 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

31 homers

and how many rbis?

Just another awesome contract from the Rays

by joeybw on Sep 19, 2008 8:46 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I missed some epic offense tonight, haven't I?

Certainties in Life: Death, Taxes, and Gabe Gross coming through in the ninth

by JMB on Sep 19, 2008 8:48 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

come on Jackson

just keep them at 0, that fasball is so damn straight

by joeybw on Sep 19, 2008 8:50 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

BONK

NEED A DISPENSER HERE

by HAHAHA OH WOW on Sep 19, 2008 8:52 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I was about to ask

Has Jackson been good tonight or “good”?

Certainties in Life: Death, Taxes, and Gabe Gross coming through in the ninth

by JMB on Sep 19, 2008 8:53 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

either way

he has given up 0, so whatever it is, I will gladly take it.

by joeybw on Sep 19, 2008 8:54 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Delmon out on a DP

lulz

Certainties in Life: Death, Taxes, and Gabe Gross coming through in the ninth

by JMB on Sep 19, 2008 8:53 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Who has the "IMA FIRIN MAH LAZER!!" pic?

Certainties in Life: Death, Taxes, and Gabe Gross coming through in the ninth

by JMB on Sep 19, 2008 8:55 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

as the Marlins are winning again

Where did this come from? They just stopped losing

by joeybw on Sep 19, 2008 8:56 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Oh jesus christ....

…we can’t get a better chant going than this shit?

by ReasonableDoubt on Sep 19, 2008 8:57 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

3-3 in the Jays game Bottom 6th

its not what i want but right now everything is either going right or very close for us to make that miracle clinch,….

by joeybw on Sep 19, 2008 9:01 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Am I late on this or did anyone else see that David Price and Fernando Perez got Minor League Pitcher/Player of the year?

Here’s the best of the rest:

Durham Bulls
Player of the Year: INF Dan Johnson
Pitcher of the Year: RHP Mitch Talbot

Vero Beach Devil Rays
Player of the Year: OF Ryan Royster
Pitcher of the Year: RHP Jeremy Hellickson

Hudson Valley Renegades
Player of the Year: OF Kyeong Kang
Pitcher of the Year: RHP Nick Barnese

Dominican Summer League
Player of the Year: OF Cesar Guillen
Pitcher of the Year: RHP Juan Wilsino

Montgomery Biscuits
Player of the Year: INF Chris Nowak
Pitcher of the Year: RHP Wade Davis

Columbus Catfish
Player of the Year: OF Reid Fronk
Pitcher of the Year: RHP Jesse Darcy

Princeton Rays
Player of the Year: INF Elias Otero
Pitcher of the Year: LHP Matt Moore

Venezuelan Summer League
Player of the Year: C Alejandro Torres
Pitcher of the Year: RHP Deivis Mavares

by TheUltimateBucFan on Sep 19, 2008 9:02 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Decent 2nd half

Brad Ziegler had a scoreless inning streak. Brad Ziegler had not met BJ Upton.

by P Brady on Sep 19, 2008 9:10 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

.691 OPS and he did have 110 K in 426 AB

so yeah, he did kinda suck. I wonder what that says for the rest of the guys on the team!

by TheUltimateBucFan on Sep 19, 2008 9:11 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Edwin Jackson

Making lucky look good since 2008

Certainties in Life: Death, Taxes, and Gabe Gross coming through in the ninth

by JMB on Sep 19, 2008 9:08 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

if we can win his games

i dont care if he is lucky or good

and it would be awesome of him if he can keep eating up these