DRaysBay: An SB Nation Community

Navigation: Jump to content areas:


Sports blogs for fans, by fans.
Around SBN: Spencer Hall's Sports Meme Power Rankings

MLB Really Does Care About Their Ratings More Than Anything

The game times are out and well....they are freaking pitiful. Thursday's game will  start at 2:30 PM and Friday's at 6 PM.  Whatever, Friday's is fine, but 2:30 on a Thursday for a franchise playing in its first post-season? Thanks MLB, I really will enjoy wrecking your Chicago/Boston wetdream.

1 recs  |  Comment 63 comments

Story-email Email Printer Print

Comments

Display:

Wow

Unbelievable…Thought TBS blogged out a different schedule?

Joe

by joedobr on Sep 28, 2008 11:00 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Insulting

this may, and I hope not, bring back in the chance of not every seat being filled, yes, every seat was sold, but I don’t think fans were counting on a mid afternoon game

Joe

by joedobr on Sep 28, 2008 11:02 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Yeah I have to hope I can get off work

Frankly a 6pm is bad, but a 2:30pm is a freaking disaster.

by matthan on Sep 28, 2008 11:05 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

TBS

This is also what happens when one network has a F’ing lock on the damn LDS schedule

Joe

by joedobr on Sep 28, 2008 11:06 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Don't blame MLB necessarily

The Rays got the shaft here, and this is real sad. I hope this again brings up serious discussion on why only one network has the damn coverage!! What is the best time for fans as a whole? Do you want the best atmosphere, or are you cowtowing to your worst national broadcast partner?

Joe

by joedobr on Sep 28, 2008 11:07 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Competition

MLB wants all of their playoff games shown in exclusivity. Its too bad, because it may affect some of the fans. Yes, somehow it will be packed, but there will be some serious complaints about this.

Joe

by joedobr on Sep 28, 2008 11:09 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I'm thinking you are going to see quite a few empty seats

This area is too spread out and the demographics do not set up to fill a stadium at 230 in the afternoon in the fall. It just doesn’t work.

Basically 35K people are now going to have to find out how to get off work and/or get their kids out of school. This is a HORRIBLE scenario

by matthan on Sep 28, 2008 11:13 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Really think so?

That is now indeed possible. I do believe people took it for granted it would be evening starts here. I know for a fact this is a heavy evening crowd and weekend crowd. This is inexplicable.

Again, why has MLB have an exclusivity lock on the LDS? Why can’t FX or ESPN or even Fox agree to carry games late and have competition? They don’t want to hurt another market? This is worse for this market this scenario!!

Joe

by joedobr on Sep 28, 2008 11:16 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yes

I know about 30 people or so with Game 1 tickets. Every single one of those people have either work or school.

Personally I was mentally prepared for an early evening game. Maybe 5PMish and that is what we are getting Friday. I knew it was possible, but I just could not see them giving us a freaking afternoon game.

What is really really really sad is the atmosphere would have been absolutely electric. Now it is going to be a dud. We were going to have a massive homefield advantage and now we won’t. It is very sad indeed.

by matthan on Sep 28, 2008 11:20 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Of course

The team will take it in the you know what and “be happy” about it. They will “take it” and accept what MLB tells them.

I would like to see some sort of complaint about the starts. I am going to have difficulty watching the first game, let alone hearing it. That is for me to worry about and get around. Its a shame that my passion for the game is affected by the starting times, but it does. I do believe that there won’t be seats in every last seat. I bet there will be lots of secondary market action and even a chance that some out of towners will get in there.

Joe

by joedobr on Sep 28, 2008 11:25 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Would any of those 30 or so people want to part with 2 tickets?

I need two tickets. If you’d like to sell please email me at karsen @ gmail.com. Thanks.

by floridaroar on Sep 29, 2008 3:16 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Another example

Of also how teams aren’t treated fairly and equally by Park Avenue

This is something I will complain about vehemently. Fans should be outraged by this. MLB wants NOTHING to do with this market, and this is an example of that thought.

Joe

by joedobr on Sep 28, 2008 11:13 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

How do you figure?

You make no sense. We play one afternoon game and so do the phillies. Whats the big deal?

by Sveet on Sep 29, 2008 12:12 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Cubs

The ultimate afternoon team. They LIVE for mid afternoon baseball and somehow, its night games at Wrigley!! Why not throw them the bone and at least have a mid or an early evening standard start!!

Come on you dweebs!

Joe

by joedobr on Sep 28, 2008 11:19 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

LA is a HUGE market

No way they put the Dodgers on at 11:30 local time and lose out on that draw.

by Jason Collette on Sep 28, 2008 11:37 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

You are right

They would never do that….Its the short of the stick, but I wonder what would have happened if the Yankees got in instead of the Rays, you got to know they would shuffle and accomodate.

Last year, Colorado and Philly played the afternoon games if memory serves in the LDS round.

Joe

by joedobr on Sep 28, 2008 11:44 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

It may suck, but look at the schedule, and honestly, I don’t know what else I would’ve expected. On Thursday, there is also Milwaukee-Philly and LA-Cubs. The Philly series already got one afternoon start the day before. They wouldn’t stick them with two. And you know Cubs-Dodgers is going as late as they can get it. Then Friday Boston-Anaheim is the same day, and again, we all know that’s going to be later for many reasons, but on top of that it’s a west coast team involved.

I just don’t know what else could’ve been expected.

by Bobby Fenton on Sep 28, 2008 11:37 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Broadcasting rights

Right on Bobby. There will be complaints about this as the week goes on. I wonder if MLB knew the logistical problems of the schedule. All games will be broadcasted by TBS in its entirety, I believe. Won’t ever know the answer, but I wonder why they wouldn’t want one of their other partners to air the game with them?

The NFL playoffs are pretty neatly wrapped up with one wildcard day going to NBC, the other to CBS and Fox while CBS and Fox divvy up the divisional and championship rounds up.

In the NBA playoffs, there is no getting around it, and its a common complaint that now that Round 1 is a best of 7, the playoffs last too long. NHL has the same problem the NBA does, but there isn’t much complaint about that.

Joe

by joedobr on Sep 28, 2008 11:49 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Switch the Cubs

Most of those fans are afternooners anyways. Yes, you got a point on the other team.

Problem goes to the exclusivity of the tv package. This isn’t a problem in other sports playoffs because there are multiple broadcast partners and those leagues aren’t afraid to split the market up.

Joe

by joedobr on Sep 28, 2008 11:43 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

You don't get it

Maybe you do, maybe you don’t, that’s your call. This is just not an early afternoon, weekday market.

Joe

by joedobr on Sep 29, 2008 8:58 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

so what time are they going to have for game 1 of our 1st ws game this year?

YOU'RE 2008 AL EAST DIVISION CHAMPIONS.... THE TAMPA BAY RAYS!!!

by RaysOfHope on Sep 28, 2008 11:50 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Knowing MLB

130 in the afternoon!! Its senior’s day and park’s and recreation day as the Rays and Dodgers open Game 1 of the 2008 World Series!

Joe

by joedobr on Sep 28, 2008 11:51 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

From a business point of view it makes little sense for MLB

They lose far more viewers, fans, and goodwill from fans by having afternoon starts than they would by having two games played at the same time at night. Hell you can stagger it a little bit also. Also it is based on the root concept that a fan will watch more than 1 game during a day. That is patently false. The vast majority of fans will watch just 1 game, not multiple. In fact you will get more viewers by slightly staggering the games the way the NCAA tournament does. It is far more likely to have a person watch baseball from 5pm to 11pm if the starts are slightly staggered than expect someone to watch 3 games beginning to end from 230 to 1am.

by matthan on Sep 28, 2008 11:56 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I agree with the notion of playing with the starting times and having them closer together so that games overlap without directly mirroring each other. Under the current system of slotting every game individually, though, once again I am not very surprised by where our games were placed.

I get off at noon every day so it is easy for me to be less upset, but even if I had a regular job you better believe my ass would be taking a half day Thursday. I think plenty of others will do the same, and the in-house attendance and atmosphere will be just fine, imo.

by Bobby Fenton on Sep 29, 2008 12:02 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Make it a Doubleheader

Go the USF-Pitt game immediately afterwards

Blake
USF--Class of '09

by usfraysfan on Sep 29, 2008 12:05 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

The normal baseball fan?

Is that person going to sit down and “hog out” and watch a tripleheader of games back-to-back-to-back? If it was presented like football, I think it would be higher. It won’t make any difference this year, but MLB should go back to their broadcasting partners and look at it and ask what makes more sense for the teams? If the Dodgers had the homefield in LDS round, a lot of the time booking would have been easier with the LA teams getting the late night time slots.

I just don’t see the casual, standard fan going crazy on LDS baseball. I wish that the individual teams had more leeway in creating their schedule in that sense. Sure thing, fans will make due and tough this out, but this is a rather large inconvenience for fans in this market, and may dampen their enthusiasm.

Joe

by joedobr on Sep 29, 2008 9:03 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Fuck MLB

This makes me have to find a fucking excuse to get out of school and not lose my exemptions

by KazforPresident on Sep 29, 2008 12:03 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

You guys are a bunch of whiners

I agree the times could be better, but they want everyone to be able to see every game. TBS has the rights and only one station so to play 3 games in one day they have to be all day long.

Don’t act like we got screwed. We play one afternoon game and so does MIL/PHI. There were really no other options. They can’t put the Cubs on in the afternoon b/c all the other games are east coast games. That means first pitch wouldn’t be until 9:30pm EST. Then we would have more complainers saying its too late to take their kids to the games. MLB was as fair as they could be here.

If you were a real Rays fan you would take a day or half day off at least fake sick

by Sveet on Sep 29, 2008 12:08 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

People like us are still going to go even though it has become a major hassle to get there.

9:30 would have been a much better time for all of us since we could actually get to the game on time. It’s a garbage system to make a team play at a time when everyone is at work or school. PHI/MIL should also be pissed that they got shafted with a horrible time.

by KazforPresident on Sep 29, 2008 12:18 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

More people would complain about 9:30pm

than the afternoon. It’s a no win situation

by Sveet on Sep 29, 2008 12:20 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

no one should play baseball starting at 9:30pm

that’s more ridiculous than the WS games that start at 8:30.

I agree – we have to deal with it. 2:30 isn’t terrible…it’s not ideal, but as numerous people have pointed out – someone has to play then.

by TallMatt on Sep 29, 2008 11:12 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Ask Nielsen

How many of their fans watch every frigging game? If this was the NFL, sure thing, they are a ratings winner. In markets north of Baltimore and Washington, its going to be a ratings winner too.

Maybe real Rays fans have real lives! Did you happen to think of that? When I originally saw the schedule, there should be TWO (2) games per day! Why they stagger with a 1 (LA/BOS) and 3 is odd. If you paired it up 2 and 2, then you could have early to mid evening games when no one gets hosed! There should not be 3 games in one day!

If you call it “whining” fine. I call it a valid complaint, and a money grab. Its lazines on behalf of MLB. There are two relatively easy solutions to this, but they want no part of it. One, add an additional broadcasting partner and two, move one of the series to match the Angel/Red Sox series.

Joe

by joedobr on Sep 29, 2008 9:08 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

MOTHERFUCKERS!!!

I actually had a chance at going to Friday’s game if it were later!!! I can’t get out of Tallahassee until Friday morning because of a god damn physics exam and now I have no chance of getting to the game.

FUCK YOU MLB

Certainties in Life: Death, Taxes, and Gabe Gross coming through in the ninth

by JMB on Sep 29, 2008 12:30 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Rays fans are the ones getting hosed

2:30 on a Thursday?? I guess if there are some who can’t make it others will say, well they don’t deserve a team cause they couldn’t make it due to work demands. I hope we go deep in the playoffs so MLB will have to suffer putting us on primetime!!!

by sofladude77 on Sep 29, 2008 12:43 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I want a Brewers vs. Rays WS

Just so I can watch MLB and Fox suffer

Certainties in Life: Death, Taxes, and Gabe Gross coming through in the ninth

by JMB on Sep 29, 2008 1:03 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

This

is rec’d for being made of Win and God.

I'm laughing at the superior intellect.

by Orlando Rays on Sep 29, 2008 11:15 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

This is really fucking insane.

IDC about the Friday one but Thursday. Cmon. Now I have to skip a class.

Top Josh Paul Pornos- Big Navi Stroking, 2pitchers1cup, BJ to the Balls, Riggans Your Thingans

BELIEVE in 08!

by SRQman on Sep 29, 2008 3:05 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Well I got off

I’m able to leave work at 130 on Thursday, but this means I have to stay til 5 on Friday. That gives me an hour both days which I think I can make depending on traffic. The Friday game will be a lot tighter due to leaving work traffic. However, as long as I have my stuff in my car I should make it. I may miss first pitch, but no more than an inning.

Of course being in such a rush destroy my rowdiness level.

by matthan on Sep 29, 2008 9:14 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Fuck you, MLB. Seriously.

Now I have to scramble and clear an already busy calendar.

I’m going to go on Craigslist just so Stubhub and MLB don’t get a fucking dime off me having to resell my tickets.

by ReasonableDoubt on Sep 29, 2008 10:18 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

If this game doesn't look sold out

I do not want to hear from one person that St. Pete doesn’t deserve this team. Find a way to go. This is our first playoff game EVER. Take a sick day, skip school, steal a car whatever you have to do. In case you guys haven’t figured out yet the deck has been stacked against us from the beginning and we have rose above it all time and again. This is just one more aspect of the story we will tell our kids someday. One more avenue of how we got “screwed” and it didn’t matter because we won the game, the series, the championship. Living in Orlando I would have had to take two half days to get out there and get a good night sleep after the game. Now I can just take that day off and head out the night before. You do what you have to do to be there, but you better be there because it is history in the making.

Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't matter, and those who matter don't mind.

by Sandy Kazmir on Sep 29, 2008 10:26 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Afternoon playoff games

Are something we’re gonna need more of.

You guys will be saying the same thing when you’re playing at 9 PM in Boston, all of your boys from Florida start shivering…

The stock market will never recover, our armies will never again be #1, and our children will drink filthy water for the rest of their lives - HST

by the fix is in on Sep 29, 2008 10:47 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Why would we be in Boston?

Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't matter, and those who matter don't mind.

by Sandy Kazmir on Sep 29, 2008 11:09 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

That assumes Boston beats Anaheim

a team they’re 1-8 against

I'm laughing at the superior intellect.

by Orlando Rays on Sep 29, 2008 11:16 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Sweet.. the Cubs game will start 8:30 central. Cubs fans get home around midnight, if lucky.

Makes sense.

God bless the increasingly dumb MLB TV contracts. The short-term buck always comes first. Choosing horrid FOX over the other broadcast networks was the first of many “interesting” decisions leading up to this point.

by RATW on Sep 29, 2008 11:14 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

they're playing a west coast team

thus, they are starting later. (and of course, Cubs/Dodgers are the bigger TV markets)

by TallMatt on Sep 29, 2008 11:16 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

If anyone cant get off work/school and have tickets to sell

Ill buy them off you. please. im desperate.
Ive lost every damn ticket lotto (I entered my whole family) and i cant afford to pay upwards of 150$ for tickets.
mitsides@gmail.com

by Roc on Sep 29, 2008 12:18 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I got 2 on ebay for 150 total

Good luck I hope you can make it out.

Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't matter, and those who matter don't mind.

by Sandy Kazmir on Sep 29, 2008 1:31 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Terrible on many levels...

It sucks for the working person with an inflexible schedule. (Fortunately, my boss is understanding and told me to go ahead and take half a day as a “religious holiday.”) It sucks for kids who don’t get out of school early enough and don’t have parents who will spring them early (or who might be having a test they can’t miss). And as someone who works in downtown St. Pete, I really wonder how bad the parking situation will be. I know the city will be running shuttles, but a good bit of space in the parking garages is taken up by working people during the day. And those streets nearer to the Trop where you can park without a time limit after 6 pm…like around our building…well, won’t work for a 2:30 pm game unless you want a $25 ticket.

Baseball, it is said, is only a game. True. And the Grand Canyon is only a hole in Arizona.
~George F. Will, Men at Work: The Craft of Baseball, 1990

by webdoyenne on Sep 29, 2008 4:17 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

just take comfort in knowing that

all the ALCS games will be at night after you dispatch the survivor of the AL Central.

You are 100% correct about MLB caring more about ratings than anything else. Baseball is a game. A great game that we all love. Unfortunately MLB is a business and they are going to do what is best for the business.

For those of you who have tickets to this game: Work on a really good excuse to get out of work.

For those of you who have kids: They can miss a day of school.

There is nothing like playoff baseball. The opportunity to be at the first playoff game in your franchises history is one that can’t be passed on.

I am looking forward to watching playoff baseball and I am looking forward to seeing what the Rays can do in the playoffs.

best of luck to you guys in the postseason.

---AC 00 00 00 - Believe

by mjk83 on Sep 29, 2008 5:28 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

THIS
For those of you who have tickets to this game: Work on a really good excuse to get out of work.

For those of you who have kids: They can miss a day of school.

Best times I have ever spent w/ my Dad was the random spring days he’d skip work and pick me up from school early to go to spring training games.

by rglass44 on Sep 29, 2008 8:54 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I asked my mom if I could skip a class

(It is her tickets so I can’t be real sneaky.) She asked, “Do you have a test?” to which I replied “No.” She then goes “What is the big deal just skip.”

Top Josh Paul Pornos- Big Navi Stroking, 2pitchers1cup, BJ to the Balls, Riggans Your Thingans

BELIEVE in 08!

by SRQman on Sep 30, 2008 12:47 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Hallelujah

In the end, your assessment is right, no doubt.

A shame that MLB can’t work with their broadcasting partners to find a more equitable solution for the most imporant party of them all: us, the fans and consumers. Its a different time, different market and different place, and sacrifices have to be made. I am just disappointed that there is dictation here, and no leeway given. Its the best they got to work with, too bad.

Joe

by joedobr on Sep 30, 2008 12:37 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Too True

What a crock!!! I’m glad I’m on vacation this week, otherwise I would’ve missed the game.

What about the people who won’t even get to watch the game on TV because they are at school or work?!?! What a bunch of garbage. Absolute garbage. The home team should be incharge of scheduling their games and if the TV networks want to pick it up, then fine, let them. Otherwise, they can miss out, not the hundreds of thousands of people that have waited 10 years for this day to come.

by Longo Land on Sep 30, 2008 4:07 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Comments For This Post Are Closed


User Tools

Founded in 2005. DRaysBay is home to "progressive statistical analysis and reasoned argument."
Start posting about the Rays »

Join SB Nation and dive into communities focused on all your favorite teams.

FanShots

Quick hits of video, photos, quotes, chats, links and lists that you find around the web.

Recent FanShots

Desert Dogs to play in the AFL championship @ 2:30 EST.
Desmond Jennings Makes the Tops AA-All-Stars
ABC Coalition to Vote on Draft Report Today.
Fan page for Dick Bosman, Rays minor league pitching coordinator
Upton's Struggles vs Lefties
Evan Longoria wins the Silver Slugger Award
09 Minor Leaguers File for Free Agency
Longoria on the MLB 2k10 cover?
Thank you Tim Marchman.
Longo's Slugcon by Location

+ New FanShot All FanShots >


VPs of Baseball Operations

Nando_small R.J. Anderson

Raysring1_small Tommy Rancel

Zorilla_small FreeZorilla

Price_small Erik Hahmann

Ticket Account Executive

Rays_small Steve Slowinski