Recap: That Sucked
by R.J. Anderson on Sep 3, 2008 10:56 PM EDT
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A gas leak can only hide for so long and tonight the Rays' version blew up. No, not Edwin Jackson, but Eric Hinske in left field. Two instances come to mind; the ball he dove on and missed, then fumbled upon reaching it and the one he played off of the wall despite B.J. Upton being in a better position to A) field it and B) throw it. I'm not going to say that he cost us the game, because overall this was a putrid effort.
Edwin only drew two swinging strikes tonight, a slider against Alex Rodriguez early on and a fastball on Derek Jeter. Edwin threw 46 strikes tonight out of 70 pitches, and 52 of those were fastballs. The rest were mainly sliders with a few changes mixed in. He only walked one and struck two out. It's hard to pin the hits on him, and really I thought it was one of his better starts, but alas the results weren't pretty tonight, even if the processes weren't awful.
On the somewhat bright side we saw the first instant replay review in the history of the league. It didn't go our way yet that's still history and history is something we should cherish, I think.
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I find it ironic that they got the first replay ever wrong.
"STP is me. He can do everything I can do." - R.J. Anderson
by P Brady on Sep 3, 2008 11:02 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
What type of question is this?
Do you really feel anyone is going to go against Kazmir?
by R.J. Anderson on Sep 3, 2008 11:11 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ha Ha
what happens from 6th inning on?
by sternfan1 on Sep 3, 2008 11:13 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Your pimp takes his dick out of your mouth
and slaps you in the forehead with it.
by rayweaver on Sep 3, 2008 11:30 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
i miss cc and longo :(
but its looks like longo might be back this weekend, thank god! since im getting sick of watching lazy ass aybar crawl up the line and not get into trouble for it, if bj even came close to that they would probably bench him for 2 games
Longo=ROY. Friedman=Executive of the year. Maddon=Manager of the year. Gabe Gross= clutch.
by RaysOfHope on Sep 3, 2008 11:15 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
every time i watch the damn rays, they lose.
watching hinske was like going to a kegger with bristol palin and forgetting condoms
by daveh33 on Sep 3, 2008 11:11 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
I'll rec it.
I kind of hijacked the thread, so I owe it to you.
by Vin on Sep 4, 2008 12:50 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Here's the difference
Red Sox go into yankee Stadium and take 2/3
Yanks come to our house and it ain’t even close
by sternfan1 on Sep 3, 2008 11:15 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
we just won 5 games in a row, so i expected to loss some games in this series
also this is the first series that the rays have lost since the allstar break so shut up, we cant win every game
Longo=ROY. Friedman=Executive of the year. Maddon=Manager of the year. Gabe Gross= clutch.
by RaysOfHope on Sep 3, 2008 11:17 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Pick the "wrong week" to give up winning
by sternfan1 on Sep 3, 2008 11:18 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
only 2 games! kaz will get them tomorrow
Longo=ROY. Friedman=Executive of the year. Maddon=Manager of the year. Gabe Gross= clutch.
by RaysOfHope on Sep 3, 2008 11:19 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
You really think so?
I wish i did
Kaz throws 100 pitches by inning 5
by sternfan1 on Sep 3, 2008 11:21 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
as long as they are 5 shutout innings, who cares?
would you yell at carmen electra because she only gave you a 2 minute lap dance? ok, maybe you would, but still
by daveh33 on Sep 3, 2008 11:23 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
2 minutes with her is enough for me lol
rasner sucks so i think that we will beat him, i think kaz will last 6 innings tomorrow
Longo=ROY. Friedman=Executive of the year. Maddon=Manager of the year. Gabe Gross= clutch.
by RaysOfHope on Sep 3, 2008 11:24 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Bradford?
Why in the hell do you want to DFA Bradford?
by RayFanNY on Sep 3, 2008 11:29 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
OVERREACTIONS
"STP is me. He can do everything I can do." - R.J. Anderson
by P Brady on Sep 3, 2008 11:30 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
he's new! we won't miss him
and that mustache! totally untrustworthy
by daveh33 on Sep 3, 2008 11:33 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Where are all the homers who
bashed me before the game?
by sternfan1 on Sep 3, 2008 11:16 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Cause i'm pissed off
at the entire team
by sternfan1 on Sep 3, 2008 11:20 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
You are just mad at the Rays and i'm an easy target
by sternfan1 on Sep 3, 2008 11:25 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
If you were an easy target you wouldn't be hiding your bullshit behind an internet pseudonym
and yes I am pissed off.
by rglass44 on Sep 3, 2008 11:26 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I thought a bigger Hinske play
was the hit Abreu stretched into a double. The following grounder by Arod is likely a DP.
Anyways, what’s the word on Longoria?
by Schmidt on Sep 3, 2008 11:17 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
2 losses where a few bad breaks didnt go our way
and all of a sudden it’s the heater in here. Trolls I get I mean look at you you’re fabulous, but supposed real fans saying dumb shit is just that.
Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't matter, and those who matter don't mind.
by Sandy Kazmir on Sep 3, 2008 11:27 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Where are youn the post game threaf victories?
Why do you have to spoil any chance for knowledgeable exchanges with your BS flaming? My language is less offensive than your “fandom.”
by rglass44 on Sep 3, 2008 11:29 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
"Where are youn the post game threaf victories?"
I’m going to put that a bumper sticker.
by RayFanNY on Sep 3, 2008 11:32 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
RJm using run differential, where should this team(Rays) be?
by sternfan1 on Sep 3, 2008 11:29 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Probably like a game or two behind where we are, nothing major, pyth has a habit of overrating teams with good pens.
"STP is me. He can do everything I can do." - R.J. Anderson
by P Brady on Sep 3, 2008 11:30 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, this
"STP is me. He can do everything I can do." - R.J. Anderson
by P Brady on Sep 3, 2008 11:31 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
See above
"STP is me. He can do everything I can do." - R.J. Anderson
by P Brady on Sep 3, 2008 11:30 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
the bullpen thing is important, but it's probably on the order of 3 games for the Rays
i believe the Rays are outperforming Pag by more like 7 games total.
this team is about as talented as the Red Sox, give or take a couple games.
by Sky Kalkman on Sep 4, 2008 2:49 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Pythag can't be accounted for in one season
It is not perfect.
Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't matter, and those who matter don't mind.
by Sandy Kazmir on Sep 3, 2008 11:31 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
hey sternfan! first lost series since allstar break!
Longo=ROY. Friedman=Executive of the year. Maddon=Manager of the year. Gabe Gross= clutch.
by RaysOfHope on Sep 3, 2008 11:33 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Pythag is meaningless
the game is played on the field.
by nyyfaninlaaland on Sep 4, 2008 12:01 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yessir
Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't matter, and those who matter don't mind.
by Sandy Kazmir on Sep 4, 2008 9:50 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
one game at a time. defense wins championships. give 110%. bro's before ho's
by Sky Kalkman on Sep 4, 2008 2:50 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
That's impossible no one can give more than 100 percent. By definition that's the most any one can give.
::hypnotized voice::
Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't matter, and those who matter don't mind.
by Sandy Kazmir on Sep 4, 2008 2:54 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
SMBC > C&H
"STP is me. He can do everything I can do." - R.J. Anderson
by P Brady on Sep 3, 2008 11:35 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
"STP is me. He can do everything I can do." - R.J. Anderson
by P Brady on Sep 3, 2008 11:40 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
david price's line today 5in 3hit 0 runs 3 walks 6Ks
also 92 pitches, 57 for strikes
what is the series best of? and what day is the AAA playoffs over if they win it all?
Longo=ROY. Friedman=Executive of the year. Maddon=Manager of the year. Gabe Gross= clutch.
by RaysOfHope on Sep 3, 2008 11:39 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Late here, but
3 of 5. And last possible day of playoffs is Sept. 13.
No justice if they win – worst record of all AAA playoff teams by far. But some good pitchers.
by nyyfaninlaaland on Sep 4, 2008 12:11 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yes.
The lineup is void of anyone worth noting minus Nowak (and I guess Guzman) but the rotation and pen is solid.
by R.J. Anderson on Sep 4, 2008 12:13 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
ya our AAA rotation is probably better than some ML rotations
price,davis, niemann is pretty damn good, i hope to see those 3 real soon, but i bet we wont see davis until next year, anyone think davis will get called up after the AAA playoffs?
Longo=ROY. Friedman=Executive of the year. Maddon=Manager of the year. Gabe Gross= clutch.
by RaysOfHope on Sep 4, 2008 12:17 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm single handedly making this thread worth reading
by Vin on Sep 3, 2008 11:47 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
i dont understand that one at all
Longo=ROY. Friedman=Executive of the year. Maddon=Manager of the year. Gabe Gross= clutch.
by RaysOfHope on Sep 3, 2008 11:48 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Actually dude, don't
its better that you don’t understand the comic. I promise.
by Vin on Sep 3, 2008 11:54 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
i didnt watch it, but i read about it on wikipedia
thats some gross shit, glad my piece of shit computer is retarded when it comes to videos
Longo=ROY. Friedman=Executive of the year. Maddon=Manager of the year. Gabe Gross= clutch.
by RaysOfHope on Sep 3, 2008 11:57 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
i have a weak stomach for that type of shit too
i might not have throwen up, but i know i wouldve gagged alot on that one
Longo=ROY. Friedman=Executive of the year. Maddon=Manager of the year. Gabe Gross= clutch.
by RaysOfHope on Sep 4, 2008 12:02 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, same.
I shut it off at the first sign of defecation. So I’ve never actually watched it either.
by Vin on Sep 4, 2008 12:05 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Swear.
I’ve seen 2 guys 1 cup though.
John Mayer is actually pretty funny.
by Vin on Sep 4, 2008 12:06 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
He is.
He deserves his own specials more than Dane Cook.
by R.J. Anderson on Sep 4, 2008 12:09 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
My anus deserves more specials than Dane Cook.
by Vin on Sep 4, 2008 12:11 AM EDT up reply actions 4 recs
Get a room!
Top Josh Paul Pornos- Big Navi Stroking, 2pitchers1cup, BJ to the Balls, Riggans Your Thingans
BELIEVE in 08!
by SRQman on Sep 4, 2008 1:04 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Only if you join us.
Gay jokes are awesome.
by Vin on Sep 4, 2008 1:10 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I have dreams that I come home to B.J. and he takes me in his arms and reassures me all is fine.
/SRQ
by R.J. Anderson on Sep 4, 2008 1:14 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Might be true.
Top Josh Paul Pornos- Big Navi Stroking, 2pitchers1cup, BJ to the Balls, Riggans Your Thingans
BELIEVE in 08!
by SRQman on Sep 4, 2008 1:15 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
settle down, is it rj or r.j.? lol
Longo=ROY. Friedman=Executive of the year. Maddon=Manager of the year. Gabe Gross= clutch.
by RaysOfHope on Sep 4, 2008 1:18 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
LOUD NOISES!!!!
Hinske needs a foot up his ass and Bartlett needs to remember how to field. He’s been off his game since he got beaned on Sunday.
Other than that? Pick yourself up. Dust yourself off. Start all over again.
by ReasonableDoubt on Sep 4, 2008 12:02 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
And memo to the Yankees fan that security threw down the steps in left field.
HAW HAW!
/NelsonMuntz
by ReasonableDoubt on Sep 4, 2008 12:03 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
This might be the worst recap ever purely for the 2g1c mention.
by R.J. Anderson on Sep 4, 2008 12:05 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Also, I have to share this.
My friend Valerie is one hell of an artist. She drew this for me for my birthday.
by Vin on Sep 4, 2008 12:12 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Dabbler
She’s actually almost done with nursing school. Just an all around cool ass individual.
by Vin on Sep 4, 2008 12:15 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I was expecting
Yeah, she does a great Rodney Dangerfield.
by nyyfaninlaaland on Sep 4, 2008 12:16 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Also she got the leathery hat and sideburns.
That’s pretty damn good.
by R.J. Anderson on Sep 4, 2008 12:14 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Definitely.
I have another… I’ll have to upload it.
by Vin on Sep 4, 2008 12:15 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
in the picture, ru hitch-hiking? lol
Longo=ROY. Friedman=Executive of the year. Maddon=Manager of the year. Gabe Gross= clutch.
by RaysOfHope on Sep 4, 2008 12:18 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I was just giving a thumbs up.
Something I do often.
by Vin on Sep 4, 2008 12:22 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
THIS IS VIN sign?
Longo=ROY. Friedman=Executive of the year. Maddon=Manager of the year. Gabe Gross= clutch.
by RaysOfHope on Sep 4, 2008 12:14 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Here's the other.
pobrecito means “poor guy” for those who might wonder.
by Vin on Sep 4, 2008 12:23 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well now you're just trying to gloat.
by R.J. Anderson on Sep 4, 2008 12:24 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I've got great friends dude.
And you’re one of ’em you goofy son of a bitch.
by Vin on Sep 4, 2008 12:25 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Not to change the subject
but the Yanks swept the Sox today.
Unfortunately for you guys, it was in each game 1 of the AAA and AA playoffs.
by nyyfaninlaaland on Sep 4, 2008 12:27 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
You have no idea how gratifying it is to realize
The closest the Yankees will get to the playoffs is AA and AAA.
by R.J. Anderson on Sep 4, 2008 12:28 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Everyone is so certain that the Yankees are done, and the Rays have won the division
I am not so certain, however likely or unlikely things appear
by plasticman on Sep 4, 2008 12:29 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Who's saying the Rays have won the division?
The Yanks are seven games out of a playoff spot.
by R.J. Anderson on Sep 4, 2008 12:30 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
well right now he have home field advantage
and we also wont have to face cleveland or ny in the playoffs lol
Longo=ROY. Friedman=Executive of the year. Maddon=Manager of the year. Gabe Gross= clutch.
by RaysOfHope on Sep 4, 2008 12:32 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Thank you kind sir
I’m not a quitter either – but Pavano, Ponson, and Rasner definitely give me pause.
‘07 Mets up 7 with 17 left. So it’s doable, if not realistic. But fandom isn’t supposed to be about realism.
by nyyfaninlaaland on Sep 4, 2008 12:41 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
our pitching is much better than theirs last year
also getting back longo possibly this weekend and getting the second round of callups will help us out alot
Longo=ROY. Friedman=Executive of the year. Maddon=Manager of the year. Gabe Gross= clutch.
by RaysOfHope on Sep 4, 2008 12:44 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
MAYBE
you seem really sure of that.
did we not just have our best month without longo?
by plasticman on Sep 4, 2008 12:47 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
ru related to sternfan?
ya we had our best month without longo, but getting him back will make us even better and our bullpen is amazing and adding price and niemann and possibly wade davis to it will make it even deeper and better
Longo=ROY. Friedman=Executive of the year. Maddon=Manager of the year. Gabe Gross= clutch.
by RaysOfHope on Sep 4, 2008 12:50 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
look
I’m just trying to be realistic. Also we have no idea how those young guys are going to do in the majors, or how our team as a whole is going to do in sept . I’m just sayin! Not bashing, but not being optimistic without reason.
by plasticman on Sep 4, 2008 12:55 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
im just really anxious to see longo back and price on this team
aybar has been playing like shit lately, and is slower than manny when he was dogging it for boston and if price is better than miller and hammel ill be happy.
Longo=ROY. Friedman=Executive of the year. Maddon=Manager of the year. Gabe Gross= clutch.
by RaysOfHope on Sep 4, 2008 12:58 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Causation != correlation.
Just because we did well without Longoria does not mean he’s not the best hitter when healthy.
by R.J. Anderson on Sep 4, 2008 12:51 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
It goes back to analyzing processes v. results.
by R.J. Anderson on Sep 4, 2008 12:57 AM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
Yes.
Seems like something i could throw together.
by R.J. Anderson on Sep 4, 2008 1:14 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
case in point
yesterday and today, and the red sox as well
by plasticman on Sep 4, 2008 12:30 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
what did they give the phillies last year with that 7 games back with 17 to go?
Longo=ROY. Friedman=Executive of the year. Maddon=Manager of the year. Gabe Gross= clutch.
by RaysOfHope on Sep 4, 2008 12:36 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
it's funny
we can get plenty of predictions, accuscore etc BEFORE the game, but after they seem to disappear
by plasticman on Sep 4, 2008 12:48 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Had to be much lower. Simple math.
But what’s much lower than 1.1%
That playoff chance % thing is a bunch of crap as well. Yanks run off 8 straight, the number will go up. Meaningless construct – like Pythagorean records.
by nyyfaninlaaland on Sep 4, 2008 12:49 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
BaseRuns are where it's at.
Has BOS at 95, TB at 90, and NYY at 88.
by R.J. Anderson on Sep 4, 2008 12:53 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
i hope that that is the closest that they get for a long time
also anyone think that the yankees are makeing a mistake by putting joba in the pen next year? i sure hope so
Longo=ROY. Friedman=Executive of the year. Maddon=Manager of the year. Gabe Gross= clutch.
by RaysOfHope on Sep 4, 2008 12:30 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Again, it's what they have to do for safety concerns.
He’s pitched 90 innings this year, went 110 last. They don’t want to blow him up to 200, so he’ll have to scale his innings up.
Plus they’ve been so close to the vest this year with plan pronouncements. If they can make up some ground in the next week (if Boston ever stops playing the Baltimore chokes), I wouldn’t be shocked if they tried ramping up Joba’s innings to get him back for 2-3 starts to close the season. Only if he seemed fine physically of course.
Worst case, if we don’t catch anyone, I hope we can take the Sox down with us in Boston when we close the season up there.
by nyyfaninlaaland on Sep 4, 2008 12:46 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
the cutoff is usually a jump of 30 innings a year that you can push them to
in order to do that i could see the yankees having him in the pen for the first 2 months of the season and then bump him to the rotation in june when they are in 4th place
Longo=ROY. Friedman=Executive of the year. Maddon=Manager of the year. Gabe Gross= clutch.
by RaysOfHope on Sep 4, 2008 1:15 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
i think it's a mistake
i’d rather him use spring training to work up to starting strength. then shove him in the bullpen later in the year if he’s going to approach 200IP. going for 100 to 150 isn’t what worries me. it’s going from 150 to 200 that’s killer.
by Sky Kalkman on Sep 4, 2008 2:53 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Random thought: holds are the incest bred cousin of saves.
by R.J. Anderson on Sep 4, 2008 12:37 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
i agree
that keep trying to make that an important stat, but i dont even know what it means or even care to know
Longo=ROY. Friedman=Executive of the year. Maddon=Manager of the year. Gabe Gross= clutch.
by RaysOfHope on Sep 4, 2008 12:38 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
they not that
Longo=ROY. Friedman=Executive of the year. Maddon=Manager of the year. Gabe Gross= clutch.
by RaysOfHope on Sep 4, 2008 12:38 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
dude how did you not know about 2g1c?
by daveh33 on Sep 4, 2008 12:48 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
i dont go on youtube since my computer crashes when i try to
how long has that 2g1c been around for?
Longo=ROY. Friedman=Executive of the year. Maddon=Manager of the year. Gabe Gross= clutch.
by RaysOfHope on Sep 4, 2008 12:51 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
a long time, and i doubt its on youtube...
…i heard about it like 18 months ago, and i was kind of late.
by daveh33 on Sep 4, 2008 1:24 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
also i went to the minnesota state fair on monday and saw at least 10 rays hats or shirts
only saw a couple of yankees and red sox gear
Longo=ROY. Friedman=Executive of the year. Maddon=Manager of the year. Gabe Gross= clutch.
by RaysOfHope on Sep 4, 2008 1:01 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Twins fans are generally classy individuals
I could say the same for Cards, Royals, and Pirates fans. This is completely arbitrary and related to personal experiences I have had.
Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't matter, and those who matter don't mind.
by Sandy Kazmir on Sep 4, 2008 10:17 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
not first replay
“the first instant replay review in the history of the league”
not correct
replay was used in 1999 during a Marlins game. Ironically it was a Cliff Floyd home run that was reversed.
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/baseball/mlb/news/1999/06/01/umpire_ruling/
by The Professor on Sep 4, 2008 1:37 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
actually
it was not illegal at the time…was not made illegal until after that game
by The Professor on Sep 4, 2008 1:56 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
then this was the first authorized replay?
9 = 8
by walkoffwalk on Sep 4, 2008 8:56 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
is anyone hoping Durham gets eliminated already so we can see Price, Niemann, Talbot, and or Davis?
9 = 8
by walkoffwalk on Sep 4, 2008 8:58 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
If this were 2007 i'd agree
I don’t see them all coming up or Joe playing them much
You dance with the date you brought to the dance
by sternfan1 on Sep 4, 2008 9:21 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Agreed that we won't see all of them
I think Talbot and Niemann or Price. They’ll steal some innings from Hammel (thank God), and if they perform well enough, maybe give JP or Wheeler a few innings off. This could be big down the stretch. Also, one will probably get the spot-start versus the zerO’s.
by rglass44 on Sep 4, 2008 9:38 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
What are you, a Boston fan?
You dance with the hottest chick at the party. If she came with another guy, you lock him in the bathroom and tell her that the dude’s herpes was acting up and he had to go home.
Loser.
by ReasonableDoubt on Sep 4, 2008 10:26 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
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