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Recap: That Sucked

A gas leak can only hide for so long and tonight the Rays' version blew up. No, not Edwin Jackson, but Eric Hinske in left field. Two instances come to mind; the ball he dove on and missed, then fumbled upon reaching it and the one he played off of the wall despite B.J. Upton being in a better position to A) field it and B) throw it. I'm not going to say that he cost us the game, because overall this was a putrid effort.

Edwin only drew two swinging strikes tonight, a slider against Alex Rodriguez early on and a fastball on Derek Jeter. Edwin threw 46 strikes tonight out of 70 pitches, and 52 of those were fastballs. The rest were mainly sliders with a few changes mixed in.  He only walked one and struck two out. It's hard to pin the hits on him, and really I thought it was one of his better starts, but alas the results weren't pretty tonight, even if the processes weren't awful.

On the somewhat bright side we saw the first instant replay review in the history of the league. It didn't go our way yet that's still history and history is something we should cherish, I think.

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I find it ironic that they got the first replay ever wrong.

"STP is me. He can do everything I can do." - R.J. Anderson

by P Brady on Sep 3, 2008 11:02 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

What type of question is this?

Do you really feel anyone is going to go against Kazmir?

by R.J. Anderson on Sep 3, 2008 11:11 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

i miss cc and longo :(

but its looks like longo might be back this weekend, thank god! since im getting sick of watching lazy ass aybar crawl up the line and not get into trouble for it, if bj even came close to that they would probably bench him for 2 games

Longo=ROY. Friedman=Executive of the year. Maddon=Manager of the year. Gabe Gross= clutch.

by RaysOfHope on Sep 3, 2008 11:15 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

every time i watch the damn rays, they lose.

watching hinske was like going to a kegger with bristol palin and forgetting condoms

by daveh33 on Sep 3, 2008 11:11 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   1 recs

Here's the difference

Red Sox go into yankee Stadium and take 2/3

Yanks come to our house and it ain’t even close

by sternfan1 on Sep 3, 2008 11:15 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

we just won 5 games in a row, so i expected to loss some games in this series

also this is the first series that the rays have lost since the allstar break so shut up, we cant win every game

Longo=ROY. Friedman=Executive of the year. Maddon=Manager of the year. Gabe Gross= clutch.

by RaysOfHope on Sep 3, 2008 11:17 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

only 2 games! kaz will get them tomorrow

Longo=ROY. Friedman=Executive of the year. Maddon=Manager of the year. Gabe Gross= clutch.

by RaysOfHope on Sep 3, 2008 11:19 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

You really think so?

I wish i did

Kaz throws 100 pitches by inning 5

by sternfan1 on Sep 3, 2008 11:21 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

as long as they are 5 shutout innings, who cares?

would you yell at carmen electra because she only gave you a 2 minute lap dance? ok, maybe you would, but still

by daveh33 on Sep 3, 2008 11:23 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

2 minutes with her is enough for me lol

rasner sucks so i think that we will beat him, i think kaz will last 6 innings tomorrow

Longo=ROY. Friedman=Executive of the year. Maddon=Manager of the year. Gabe Gross= clutch.

by RaysOfHope on Sep 3, 2008 11:24 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I thought a bigger Hinske play

was the hit Abreu stretched into a double. The following grounder by Arod is likely a DP.

Anyways, what’s the word on Longoria?

by Schmidt on Sep 3, 2008 11:17 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

2 losses where a few bad breaks didnt go our way

and all of a sudden it’s the heater in here. Trolls I get I mean look at you you’re fabulous, but supposed real fans saying dumb shit is just that.

Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't matter, and those who matter don't mind.

by Sandy Kazmir on Sep 3, 2008 11:27 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Where are youn the post game threaf victories?

Why do you have to spoil any chance for knowledgeable exchanges with your BS flaming? My language is less offensive than your “fandom.”

by rglass44 on Sep 3, 2008 11:29 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

See above

"STP is me. He can do everything I can do." - R.J. Anderson

by P Brady on Sep 3, 2008 11:30 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

the bullpen thing is important, but it's probably on the order of 3 games for the Rays

i believe the Rays are outperforming Pag by more like 7 games total.

this team is about as talented as the Red Sox, give or take a couple games.

by Sky Kalkman on Sep 4, 2008 2:49 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Pythag can't be accounted for in one season

It is not perfect.

Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't matter, and those who matter don't mind.

by Sandy Kazmir on Sep 3, 2008 11:31 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

hey sternfan! first lost series since allstar break!

Longo=ROY. Friedman=Executive of the year. Maddon=Manager of the year. Gabe Gross= clutch.

by RaysOfHope on Sep 3, 2008 11:33 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Yessir

Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't matter, and those who matter don't mind.

by Sandy Kazmir on Sep 4, 2008 9:50 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

SMBC > C&H

"STP is me. He can do everything I can do." - R.J. Anderson

by P Brady on Sep 3, 2008 11:35 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

david price's line today 5in 3hit 0 runs 3 walks 6Ks

also 92 pitches, 57 for strikes

what is the series best of? and what day is the AAA playoffs over if they win it all?

Longo=ROY. Friedman=Executive of the year. Maddon=Manager of the year. Gabe Gross= clutch.

by RaysOfHope on Sep 3, 2008 11:39 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Late here, but

3 of 5. And last possible day of playoffs is Sept. 13.

No justice if they win – worst record of all AAA playoff teams by far. But some good pitchers.

by nyyfaninlaaland on Sep 4, 2008 12:11 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Yes.

The lineup is void of anyone worth noting minus Nowak (and I guess Guzman) but the rotation and pen is solid.

by R.J. Anderson on Sep 4, 2008 12:13 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

ya our AAA rotation is probably better than some ML rotations

price,davis, niemann is pretty damn good, i hope to see those 3 real soon, but i bet we wont see davis until next year, anyone think davis will get called up after the AAA playoffs?

Longo=ROY. Friedman=Executive of the year. Maddon=Manager of the year. Gabe Gross= clutch.

by RaysOfHope on Sep 4, 2008 12:17 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

i dont understand that one at all

Longo=ROY. Friedman=Executive of the year. Maddon=Manager of the year. Gabe Gross= clutch.

by RaysOfHope on Sep 3, 2008 11:48 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Actually dude, don't

its better that you don’t understand the comic. I promise.

by Vin on Sep 3, 2008 11:54 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

i didnt watch it, but i read about it on wikipedia

thats some gross shit, glad my piece of shit computer is retarded when it comes to videos

Longo=ROY. Friedman=Executive of the year. Maddon=Manager of the year. Gabe Gross= clutch.

by RaysOfHope on Sep 3, 2008 11:57 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

i have a weak stomach for that type of shit too

i might not have throwen up, but i know i wouldve gagged alot on that one

Longo=ROY. Friedman=Executive of the year. Maddon=Manager of the year. Gabe Gross= clutch.

by RaysOfHope on Sep 4, 2008 12:02 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Yeah, same.

I shut it off at the first sign of defecation. So I’ve never actually watched it either.

by Vin on Sep 4, 2008 12:05 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Swear.

I’ve seen 2 guys 1 cup though.

John Mayer is actually pretty funny.

by Vin on Sep 4, 2008 12:06 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

He is.

He deserves his own specials more than Dane Cook.

by R.J. Anderson on Sep 4, 2008 12:09 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

rec'd

can’t believe people pay him to be in movies, or on a stage

by daveh33 on Sep 4, 2008 12:45 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

THIS

Top Josh Paul Pornos- Big Navi Stroking, 2pitchers1cup, BJ to the Balls, Riggans Your Thingans

BELIEVE in 08!

by SRQman on Sep 4, 2008 1:04 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Get a room!

Top Josh Paul Pornos- Big Navi Stroking, 2pitchers1cup, BJ to the Balls, Riggans Your Thingans

BELIEVE in 08!

by SRQman on Sep 4, 2008 1:04 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Might be true.

Top Josh Paul Pornos- Big Navi Stroking, 2pitchers1cup, BJ to the Balls, Riggans Your Thingans

BELIEVE in 08!

by SRQman on Sep 4, 2008 1:15 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

settle down, is it rj or r.j.? lol

Longo=ROY. Friedman=Executive of the year. Maddon=Manager of the year. Gabe Gross= clutch.

by RaysOfHope on Sep 4, 2008 1:18 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

LOUD NOISES!!!!

Hinske needs a foot up his ass and Bartlett needs to remember how to field. He’s been off his game since he got beaned on Sunday.

Other than that? Pick yourself up. Dust yourself off. Start all over again.

by ReasonableDoubt on Sep 4, 2008 12:02 AM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Also, I have to share this.

My friend Valerie is one hell of an artist. She drew this for me for my birthday.

by Vin on Sep 4, 2008 12:12 AM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Dabbler

She’s actually almost done with nursing school. Just an all around cool ass individual.

by Vin on Sep 4, 2008 12:15 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I was expecting

Yeah, she does a great Rodney Dangerfield.

by nyyfaninlaaland on Sep 4, 2008 12:16 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

THIS IS VIN sign?

Longo=ROY. Friedman=Executive of the year. Maddon=Manager of the year. Gabe Gross= clutch.

by RaysOfHope on Sep 4, 2008 12:14 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Not to change the subject

but the Yanks swept the Sox today.

Unfortunately for you guys, it was in each game 1 of the AAA and AA playoffs.

by nyyfaninlaaland on Sep 4, 2008 12:27 AM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

You have no idea how gratifying it is to realize

The closest the Yankees will get to the playoffs is AA and AAA.

by R.J. Anderson on Sep 4, 2008 12:28 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

well right now he have home field advantage

and we also wont have to face cleveland or ny in the playoffs lol

Longo=ROY. Friedman=Executive of the year. Maddon=Manager of the year. Gabe Gross= clutch.

by RaysOfHope on Sep 4, 2008 12:32 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Thank you kind sir

I’m not a quitter either – but Pavano, Ponson, and Rasner definitely give me pause.

‘07 Mets up 7 with 17 left. So it’s doable, if not realistic. But fandom isn’t supposed to be about realism.

by nyyfaninlaaland on Sep 4, 2008 12:41 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

our pitching is much better than theirs last year

also getting back longo possibly this weekend and getting the second round of callups will help us out alot

Longo=ROY. Friedman=Executive of the year. Maddon=Manager of the year. Gabe Gross= clutch.

by RaysOfHope on Sep 4, 2008 12:44 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

MAYBE

you seem really sure of that.

did we not just have our best month without longo?

by plasticman on Sep 4, 2008 12:47 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

ru related to sternfan?

ya we had our best month without longo, but getting him back will make us even better and our bullpen is amazing and adding price and niemann and possibly wade davis to it will make it even deeper and better

Longo=ROY. Friedman=Executive of the year. Maddon=Manager of the year. Gabe Gross= clutch.

by RaysOfHope on Sep 4, 2008 12:50 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

look

I’m just trying to be realistic. Also we have no idea how those young guys are going to do in the majors, or how our team as a whole is going to do in sept . I’m just sayin! Not bashing, but not being optimistic without reason.

by plasticman on Sep 4, 2008 12:55 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

im just really anxious to see longo back and price on this team

aybar has been playing like shit lately, and is slower than manny when he was dogging it for boston and if price is better than miller and hammel ill be happy.

Longo=ROY. Friedman=Executive of the year. Maddon=Manager of the year. Gabe Gross= clutch.

by RaysOfHope on Sep 4, 2008 12:58 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

case in point

yesterday and today, and the red sox as well

by plasticman on Sep 4, 2008 12:30 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

what did they give the phillies last year with that 7 games back with 17 to go?

Longo=ROY. Friedman=Executive of the year. Maddon=Manager of the year. Gabe Gross= clutch.

by RaysOfHope on Sep 4, 2008 12:36 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Had to be much lower. Simple math.

But what’s much lower than 1.1%

That playoff chance % thing is a bunch of crap as well. Yanks run off 8 straight, the number will go up. Meaningless construct – like Pythagorean records.

by nyyfaninlaaland on Sep 4, 2008 12:49 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

i hope that that is the closest that they get for a long time

also anyone think that the yankees are makeing a mistake by putting joba in the pen next year? i sure hope so

Longo=ROY. Friedman=Executive of the year. Maddon=Manager of the year. Gabe Gross= clutch.

by RaysOfHope on Sep 4, 2008 12:30 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Again, it's what they have to do for safety concerns.

He’s pitched 90 innings this year, went 110 last. They don’t want to blow him up to 200, so he’ll have to scale his innings up.

Plus they’ve been so close to the vest this year with plan pronouncements. If they can make up some ground in the next week (if Boston ever stops playing the Baltimore chokes), I wouldn’t be shocked if they tried ramping up Joba’s innings to get him back for 2-3 starts to close the season. Only if he seemed fine physically of course.

Worst case, if we don’t catch anyone, I hope we can take the Sox down with us in Boston when we close the season up there.

by nyyfaninlaaland on Sep 4, 2008 12:46 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

the cutoff is usually a jump of 30 innings a year that you can push them to

in order to do that i could see the yankees having him in the pen for the first 2 months of the season and then bump him to the rotation in june when they are in 4th place

Longo=ROY. Friedman=Executive of the year. Maddon=Manager of the year. Gabe Gross= clutch.

by RaysOfHope on Sep 4, 2008 1:15 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

i think it's a mistake

i’d rather him use spring training to work up to starting strength. then shove him in the bullpen later in the year if he’s going to approach 200IP. going for 100 to 150 isn’t what worries me. it’s going from 150 to 200 that’s killer.

by Sky Kalkman on Sep 4, 2008 2:53 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

i agree

that keep trying to make that an important stat, but i dont even know what it means or even care to know

Longo=ROY. Friedman=Executive of the year. Maddon=Manager of the year. Gabe Gross= clutch.

by RaysOfHope on Sep 4, 2008 12:38 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

they not that

Longo=ROY. Friedman=Executive of the year. Maddon=Manager of the year. Gabe Gross= clutch.

by RaysOfHope on Sep 4, 2008 12:38 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

i dont go on youtube since my computer crashes when i try to

how long has that 2g1c been around for?

Longo=ROY. Friedman=Executive of the year. Maddon=Manager of the year. Gabe Gross= clutch.

by RaysOfHope on Sep 4, 2008 12:51 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

a long time, and i doubt its on youtube...

…i heard about it like 18 months ago, and i was kind of late.

by daveh33 on Sep 4, 2008 1:24 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

also i went to the minnesota state fair on monday and saw at least 10 rays hats or shirts

only saw a couple of yankees and red sox gear

Longo=ROY. Friedman=Executive of the year. Maddon=Manager of the year. Gabe Gross= clutch.

by RaysOfHope on Sep 4, 2008 1:01 AM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Twins fans are generally classy individuals

I could say the same for Cards, Royals, and Pirates fans. This is completely arbitrary and related to personal experiences I have had.

Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't matter, and those who matter don't mind.

by Sandy Kazmir on Sep 4, 2008 10:17 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

not first replay

“the first instant replay review in the history of the league”

not correct

replay was used in 1999 during a Marlins game. Ironically it was a Cliff Floyd home run that was reversed.

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/baseball/mlb/news/1999/06/01/umpire_ruling/

by The Professor on Sep 4, 2008 1:37 AM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

If this were 2007 i'd agree

I don’t see them all coming up or Joe playing them much

You dance with the date you brought to the dance

by sternfan1 on Sep 4, 2008 9:21 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

agree

Even though I can see a few more getting some innings in. Like dancing with a lady friend for one dance while your date is in the ladys room or talking to her friends.

by Underdogs on Sep 4, 2008 9:31 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Agreed that we won't see all of them

I think Talbot and Niemann or Price. They’ll steal some innings from Hammel (thank God), and if they perform well enough, maybe give JP or Wheeler a few innings off. This could be big down the stretch. Also, one will probably get the spot-start versus the zerO’s.

by rglass44 on Sep 4, 2008 9:38 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

What are you, a Boston fan?

You dance with the hottest chick at the party. If she came with another guy, you lock him in the bathroom and tell her that the dude’s herpes was acting up and he had to go home.

Loser.

by ReasonableDoubt on Sep 4, 2008 10:26 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

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