9/4: NYY (75-64) at RAYS (84-53)
New York Yankees at Tampa Bay Rays, Sep 4, 2008 7:10 PM EDT
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Pitching Matchup:
| IP | tRA | + | K/9 | BB/9 | K/BB | HR/9 | OPS | WHIP | G/F | P/IP | ||
| NYY | RH D. Rasner |
108.0 | 5.08 | 94 | 5.33 | 2.75 | 1.94 | 1.17 | .808 | 1.49 | 1.01 | 17.11 |
| RAYS | LH S. Kazmir | 126.1 | 3.99 | 119 | 9.97 | 3.92 | 2.55 | 1.00 | .687 | 1.23 | 0.65 | 17.98 |
GO RAYS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Comments
MVP: Kid K
"STP is me. He can do everything I can do." - R.J. Anderson
by P Brady on Sep 4, 2008 5:27 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
What????
"I am a little girl who is little and is a girl." - R.J. Anderson
by P Brady on Sep 4, 2008 5:39 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
"P Brady"
Are you trying to be Puff Daddy or something?
by R.J. Anderson on Sep 4, 2008 5:41 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Something like that
"I am a little girl who is little and is a girl." - R.J. Anderson
by P Brady on Sep 4, 2008 5:43 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Anyone else notice Gross' OPS is over .800?
9 = 8
by walkoffwalk on Sep 4, 2008 5:59 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
This game falls under the catrgory of "must win"
by sternfan1 on Sep 4, 2008 6:04 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I'd put it more under: "Important to Win"
Not really life or death.
I am a little girl who is little and is a girl.
by P Brady on Sep 4, 2008 6:05 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Line ups out yet?
Pleases keep that stiff out of LF
by sternfan1 on Sep 4, 2008 6:06 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
RAYS
Iwamura, 2b
Upton, cf
Pena, 1b
Floyd, dh
Aybar, 3b
Hinske, lf
Navarro, c
Gross, rf
Bartlett, ss
Kazmir, LHP
YANKEES
Damon, cf
Jeter, ss
Abreu, rf
Rodriguez, 3b
Nady, lf
Giambi, dh
Ransom, 1b
Cano, 2b
P. Rodriguez, c
Rasner, RHP
by R.J. Anderson on Sep 4, 2008 6:07 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
ugh...why is 'Ski in LF again
9 = 8
by walkoffwalk on Sep 4, 2008 6:08 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
come on Kaz
pretend your in the middle of those 7 straight wins you had earlier
by joeybw on Sep 4, 2008 6:27 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
"IF" we make the playoffs
We going Kaz,Shields,Garza first 3 games or Shields,Kaz,Garza
by Jombari on Sep 4, 2008 6:28 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
i like to see
who we are playing first. I would put who ever is hottest against that team first.
by Underdogs on Sep 4, 2008 6:35 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
and im prob late but
how the fuck is he putting Hinske in LF again?
by joeybw on Sep 4, 2008 6:31 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
would we be better off defensively with Hinske at 3b?
9 = 8
by walkoffwalk on Sep 4, 2008 6:41 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
we would better off defensively
with Hinske sitting on the bench
by joeybw on Sep 4, 2008 6:43 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
no Kazmir
stop throwing balls, time for you to go deep in a game
by joeybw on Sep 4, 2008 7:13 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
wouldnt be a kaz inning
without a walk, i guess
by joeybw on Sep 4, 2008 7:19 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Let's warm Hammel up.
Might as well get this over with already.
by kericr on Sep 4, 2008 7:21 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
wtf kazmir
2 pretty quick outs piss you off or something?
by joeybw on Sep 4, 2008 7:21 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Why would he swing at that
Fucking 9 balls in a row and he swings
by Jombari on Sep 4, 2008 7:23 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
It's like having a shitty version of Grant Balfour on the mound.
by kericr on Sep 4, 2008 7:24 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Felix has more than one pitch.
But he only throws his fastball and has apparently lost his great curve.
by R.J. Anderson on Sep 4, 2008 7:27 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
"Good mound presence"
Bombing time!
by R.J. Anderson on Sep 4, 2008 7:25 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Redskins looking good
not… I Hate the giants
by Jombari on Sep 4, 2008 7:26 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
When was the last time Aki didn't strike out in his 1st AB?
by kericr on Sep 4, 2008 7:26 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
after reading that article about uptons shoulder
Im concered
by Jombari on Sep 4, 2008 7:28 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
finally someone makes Rasner work
thank you Pena
by joeybw on Sep 4, 2008 7:30 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
guess there is like a 30 sec delay on MLB tv
by JBrooks31 on Sep 4, 2008 7:33 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
well I am a Rays fan that lives in St.louis, So I can’t really see a Rays game any other way
by JBrooks31 on Sep 4, 2008 7:35 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
its all good
I be in the same boat once I move back to the Northeast.
by Underdogs on Sep 4, 2008 7:36 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hey there's a break.
Now with two outs and and men on the corners, here comes Kaz to pitch the second inning of an 0-0 game.
by kericr on Sep 4, 2008 7:34 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
It's a little easier to gripe about stuff like that when it's a good defensive play by the other team that ends your rally.
That bases loaded jam last night is a good example too.
by kericr on Sep 4, 2008 7:35 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
there is a few of those anti cano fans
by Underdogs on Sep 4, 2008 7:35 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
thanks pudge
always nice to get a 1 pitch Kaz out
by joeybw on Sep 4, 2008 7:37 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
3 pitches, 2 outs
get this guy quick also plz
by joeybw on Sep 4, 2008 7:38 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I think Kaz just wants to be out there for at least 5 minutes or something
by JBrooks31 on Sep 4, 2008 7:39 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
slowest baserunners possible on right now
hit this no where near the infield.
by joeybw on Sep 4, 2008 7:48 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
wow Navarro is so slow lol
lets get more runs
by joeybw on Sep 4, 2008 7:50 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Why would Navarro ever think he could steal a base?
by tallyray on Sep 4, 2008 7:50 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
come on Barty
I actually have some confidence in your bat lately
by joeybw on Sep 4, 2008 7:51 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I should make a sign that says "Hit hit here Navi!"
And the target is a donut with sprinkles.
Somehow I don’t think it’ll go over well.
by kericr on Sep 4, 2008 7:51 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Navarro just created a earth quake in Tampa
but 2-0!
by joeybw on Sep 4, 2008 7:52 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
maybe we dont want our first home sweep
or maybe its all a tease
by joeybw on Sep 4, 2008 7:53 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Is that an out if Upton's shoulder isn't hurt?
by kericr on Sep 4, 2008 7:54 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
quite possibly
although he wasn’t exactly driving the ball the other way, anyway. just a flick.
by Sky Kalkman on Sep 4, 2008 7:55 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
This was meant to be sarcastic.
That goes for both of you.
by kericr on Sep 4, 2008 7:55 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Upton had no buisness hitting that pitch
i love that man
by joeybw on Sep 4, 2008 7:54 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
what is a Alfredo Aceves
and i hope they keep Rasner in
by joeybw on Sep 4, 2008 7:55 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Rays' have gotten some nice ball/strike calls the last two innings
by Sky Kalkman on Sep 4, 2008 7:58 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Pena seems to be getting a hell of a lot close calls.
by kericr on Sep 4, 2008 7:58 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
He doesn't seem to be swinging at as many terrible pitches...
Though I haven’t looked at pitchf/x to prove my point.
by tallyray on Sep 4, 2008 8:00 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
load em up
and get then in this time damnit
by joeybw on Sep 4, 2008 7:59 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
alfredo acevas, sounds like a tasty meal at an italian restaurant
9 = 8
by walkoffwalk on Sep 4, 2008 7:59 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
hopefully Aybar does something a little different this time
by JBrooks31 on Sep 4, 2008 7:59 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
you mean like
something that doesnt suck?
by joeybw on Sep 4, 2008 8:01 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
He's hit the ball hard the last few times up.
It’s not like he can aim better.
by R.J. Anderson on Sep 4, 2008 8:01 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
well Floyd is up anyway
I thought it was Aybar coming up
by joeybw on Sep 4, 2008 8:02 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
anyone know anything about aceves?
9 = 8
by walkoffwalk on Sep 4, 2008 8:03 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
oh wtf Floyd
I was used to you getting a hit every AB
by joeybw on Sep 4, 2008 8:04 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I think its time to fix that 0 HR with bases loaded stat
by JBrooks31 on Sep 4, 2008 8:05 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
5-0!!!!!!
Wow, Kaz, if you blow this…..I will do absolutely nothing
by joeybw on Sep 4, 2008 8:05 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
His arm is cold, he needs to throw 30 pitches next inning to warm it back up.
by kericr on Sep 4, 2008 8:06 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
i hope not
I have him over 5 innings tonight
by Underdogs on Sep 4, 2008 8:07 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
girardi probably should've brought in the lefty specialist..
9 = 8
by walkoffwalk on Sep 4, 2008 8:05 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
they bullpen
isn’t that good if you remove java and mo
by Underdogs on Sep 4, 2008 8:07 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I like Java
Do not associate that garbage pitcher with either a cup of coffee or the wonderful programming language.
by kericr on Sep 4, 2008 8:08 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
No. I like sunshine too.
I don’t go to games because I usually can’t get out of work in time.
by kericr on Sep 4, 2008 8:10 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
To your credit however,
I’ve actually thought of moving to Seattle more than once. I’d probably fit in pretty well there.
by kericr on Sep 4, 2008 8:14 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
yeah, but Joba and Mo and five shmucks would still be a top 10 bullpen, maybe top 5
bullpen depth is overrated. bullpen aces are crazy important.
by Sky Kalkman on Sep 4, 2008 8:14 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
As a Yankee hater, I can't agree with this.
But assuming I was a logical man, you’d be absolutely right.
by kericr on Sep 4, 2008 8:15 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Nice to see Hinske family friendly
RJ ANDERSON IS THE SECRET POLICE HALP.
by P Brady on Sep 4, 2008 8:09 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
anyone going to the red sox games
I think its the 15-17
by Underdogs on Sep 4, 2008 8:10 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I'll be at one of them
No idea which one yet though. Probably Tuesday.
by ReasonableDoubt on Sep 4, 2008 8:12 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
no racist.jpg
you guys are out of practice……
WILLY!
by joeybw on Sep 4, 2008 8:14 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I like Kaz's changeup
RJ ANDERSON IS THE SECRET POLICE HALP.
by P Brady on Sep 4, 2008 8:14 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Kaz pitch count?
RJ ANDERSON IS THE SECRET POLICE HALP.
by P Brady on Sep 4, 2008 8:16 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I absolutely love when Kaz puts someone down with that high heat.
by kericr on Sep 4, 2008 8:19 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
It's his out pitch
He gets more swings and misses with that one than with any other placement.
Vogt early, Vogt often.
by Brickhaus on Sep 4, 2008 8:19 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
it good to see some swinging strikes again
by JBrooks31 on Sep 4, 2008 8:19 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
NO HITTER ALERT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
RJ ANDERSON IS THE SECRET POLICE HALP.
by P Brady on Sep 4, 2008 8:20 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I really think Navi should be our MVP
by JBrooks31 on Sep 4, 2008 8:23 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
lets just wait to see how Sept plays out first
by JBrooks31 on Sep 4, 2008 8:24 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
He'd rig it for Beej
RJ ANDERSON IS THE SECRET POLICE HALP.
by P Brady on Sep 4, 2008 8:24 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
my ballot:
Longoria
Upton
Pena
Shields
Kaz
Garza
Sonny
Navi
Aki
Crawford
Balfour
Hinske
Howell
by Sky Kalkman on Sep 4, 2008 8:27 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
He's probably about as entitled to it as three or four other players on this team.
The Rays should seriously consider not giving out a team MVP award this year.
by kericr on Sep 4, 2008 8:24 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Except Beej, he doesn't hustle.
RJ ANDERSON IS THE SECRET POLICE HALP.
by P Brady on Sep 4, 2008 8:25 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think that the SPTimes article this morning pretty much castrated that entire line of thought
At least until the next time he messes up.
by kericr on Sep 4, 2008 8:26 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Al Reyes and Gary Glover will be standing by their mailboxes waiting for their awards.
by kericr on Sep 4, 2008 8:25 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
okay only those on the roster as of now
by JBrooks31 on Sep 4, 2008 8:26 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
huh? he's still got average range for a CF
by Sky Kalkman on Sep 4, 2008 8:27 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
his range is fine
but he forgot how to catch a ball so he still sucks
except for this series, of course
by joeybw on Sep 4, 2008 8:30 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
he had that one game with two choke jobs
has he blundered more than those?
by Sky Kalkman on Sep 4, 2008 8:33 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
No blunders.
Just situations that leave you wishing we still had Crawford’s defense.
by R.J. Anderson on Sep 4, 2008 8:34 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
correct
i sure as hell am not defending Hinske as an outfielder. i’d almost rather risk Floyd’s and Baldelli’s health in the OF than see Hinske out there.
by Sky Kalkman on Sep 4, 2008 8:42 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
because he can only do it once ever few weeks
and now is the time
by Underdogs on Sep 4, 2008 8:27 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
GOOD JOB MITCH TALBOT
RJ ANDERSON IS THE SECRET POLICE HALP.
by P Brady on Sep 4, 2008 8:35 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
KID KKKKK
RJ ANDERSON IS THE SECRET POLICE HALP.
by P Brady on Sep 4, 2008 8:35 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I love it when Good Kaz shows up.
RJ ANDERSON IS THE SECRET POLICE HALP.
by P Brady on Sep 4, 2008 8:36 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
That tennis ball drill
Sounds like a pile of horseshit.
by kericr on Sep 4, 2008 8:39 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
If vision was that important
I’d be a capable major league DH.
by kericr on Sep 4, 2008 8:41 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, can't argue with the results too much.
Need more stats.
by kericr on Sep 4, 2008 8:40 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
It's obviously not working for him
RJ ANDERSON IS THE SECRET POLICE HALP.
by P Brady on Sep 4, 2008 8:40 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
those yanks fans
should be on the other side of the field
by Underdogs on Sep 4, 2008 8:41 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I gota charge up the laptop
I be back later as i watch the game while this is charging
by Underdogs on Sep 4, 2008 8:45 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Funny you mention this
I’m down to about 20%. See ya’ll later.
by kericr on Sep 4, 2008 8:47 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I was down to
2% so i figure it be the right thing to do
by Underdogs on Sep 4, 2008 8:59 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
BOOTS WITH THA FURRR
RJ ANDERSON IS THE SECRET POLICE HALP.
by P Brady on Sep 4, 2008 8:46 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Boots + Fur = Foghorn.
Cannons... fire them.
www.BucEm.com - SBNation's home for discussion of all things regarding the Tampa Bay Buccaneers.
by Craig T on Sep 4, 2008 8:47 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
heh i ordered a Kazmir jersey earlier today
he hasn’t made me regret it yet
by joeybw on Sep 4, 2008 8:47 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Error?
RJ ANDERSON IS THE SECRET POLICE HALP.
by P Brady on Sep 4, 2008 8:50 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
not at all
although i was hoping they would call it one
by joeybw on Sep 4, 2008 8:51 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
mlb box score has his PC at 63 anyways, I really doubt he gets a CG
by JBrooks31 on Sep 4, 2008 8:52 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
7 and change would be a dream.
RJ ANDERSON IS THE SECRET POLICE HALP.
by P Brady on Sep 4, 2008 8:54 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
7 and change would be a dream.
RJ ANDERSON IS THE SECRET POLICE HALP.
by P Brady on Sep 4, 2008 8:54 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
still a lot of innings left
but it is nice to see Kazmir stop the bledding….. i know only 2 games but we looked like garbage
by joeybw on Sep 4, 2008 8:55 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Well, there goes that.
RJ ANDERSON IS THE SECRET POLICE HALP.
by P Brady on Sep 4, 2008 8:58 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I wonder if it is just a focus problem. Lets put him on some Ritalin for a game and see how he does :)
by JBrooks31 on Sep 4, 2008 9:00 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
1 more strike would set him up for a W
come on
by joeybw on Sep 4, 2008 9:00 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
lol
nothing escapes a jam like A-Rod with runners on
by joeybw on Sep 4, 2008 9:01 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
like when he choke against the sox
last week or was it 2 weeks ago
by Underdogs on Sep 4, 2008 9:02 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
FYI all
Prob don’t care, but Aceves came from Mexican League (like Jake, he couldn’t cut it there), signed as FA in offseason, pitched at A, AA, AAA this season before recent callup.
Pretty effective in the minors, could he be worse than Rasner or Ponson?
by nyyfaninlaaland on Sep 4, 2008 9:02 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
The Yanks do a pretty decent job at coming other leagues for talent.
Edwar came from an indy league.
by R.J. Anderson on Sep 4, 2008 9:03 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
By the way
I’m following Scranton / Pawtucket on MiLB Gameday. If you can break away, cut to there in a few. The pitcher taht just finished an inning forPawtucket, Beau Vaughan, might have 1 of the all time best player pix.
by nyyfaninlaaland on Sep 4, 2008 9:06 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I give him credit
for making it this far. like McClain of the Gaints last night hitting his first HR in the majors
by Underdogs on Sep 4, 2008 9:05 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
for those o you counting the magic numbers
Twins down 3-0 in the 7th
by joeybw on Sep 4, 2008 9:05 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
was Aceves a SP in the minors?
He is at 54 pitches
by joeybw on Sep 4, 2008 9:06 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Navi flat out?
I wonder what Navi’s best time to 1st is?
by JBrooks31 on Sep 4, 2008 9:07 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
By the way
Not trolling. Following here cause trolls and suicide watch on high alert on my normal Yanks spot.
by nyyfaninlaaland on Sep 4, 2008 9:08 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Somewhere in NYC
Another A-Rod is choking when he faces real competition.
by sofladude77 on Sep 4, 2008 9:10 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Rocco can hit righties.
Can’t he? Besides he would make up for it in the field for just 5 or 6 innings.
by JBrooks31 on Sep 4, 2008 9:13 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
he has in the past
had a better avg vs righties most of his career, just Maddon is playing Floyd vs righties.
by sofladude77 on Sep 4, 2008 9:14 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Normally I wouldn't question Joe
But since we lost the last two games, I guess we can question his calls.
by JBrooks31 on Sep 4, 2008 9:16 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well
We sure kinda messed up the Yankees for the next series!!
by sofladude77 on Sep 4, 2008 9:13 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
How do you mean?
We’ve got plenty of pitchers up, and we go to Seattle, face Morrow in his 1st start (interesting), the Hyphenate (Rowland-Smith), and Silva. Can’t be that screwed.
by nyyfaninlaaland on Sep 4, 2008 9:22 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I recognize the type from lohud.com
Only show up to bitch when Yanks are losing.
by nyyfaninlaaland on Sep 4, 2008 9:18 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
No Bobby Abreu tonight
Sure makes a world of difference with the Yankees lineup
by sofladude77 on Sep 4, 2008 9:19 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Yeah I was glad to see him pulled from the line up. It makes a difference when he is not there to see 8-12 pitches per PA
by JBrooks31 on Sep 4, 2008 9:21 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
DAMN KAZ
RJ ANDERSON IS THE SECRET POLICE HALP.
by P Brady on Sep 4, 2008 9:19 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
DAMN KAZ
RJ ANDERSON IS THE SECRET POLICE HALP.
by P Brady on Sep 4, 2008 9:19 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Pitch Count?
RJ ANDERSON IS THE SECRET POLICE HALP.
by P Brady on Sep 4, 2008 9:20 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
6 and change, maybe 7.
RJ ANDERSON IS THE SECRET POLICE HALP.
by P Brady on Sep 4, 2008 9:21 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
wouldnt be suprised
If he comes out to pitch against Cano.
by sofladude77 on Sep 4, 2008 9:22 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I kind of like this
as long he last long and gets the W
by Underdogs on Sep 4, 2008 9:28 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Late
RJ ANDERSON IS THE SECRET POLICE HALP.
by P Brady on Sep 4, 2008 9:22 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Breaking News: The North wins the Civil War.
Nothing about Culpepper has been mentioned in this thread.
by kericr on Sep 4, 2008 9:24 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Isn't Culpepper a lawyer
you see his ad behind home plate
by sofladude77 on Sep 4, 2008 9:25 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Which would you rather live without: potatoes or tomatoes?
by R.J. Anderson on Sep 4, 2008 9:23 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
tomatoes
RJ ANDERSON IS THE SECRET POLICE HALP.
by P Brady on Sep 4, 2008 9:24 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Spaghetti with clam sauce, clown
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by P Brady on Sep 4, 2008 9:25 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Potatoes easy
Tomatoes is good son, the watermelon of the toppings world
by Top Gun Numba 1 on Sep 4, 2008 9:24 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Potatoes
How does Aceves look – I’m not watching here on Left Coast
by nyyfaninlaaland on Sep 4, 2008 9:25 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
he's eating innings
Did give up two inherited runners in 2nd and one solo home run, but that’s it
by sofladude77 on Sep 4, 2008 9:26 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
FB 88-91, nice curve, show-me slider
So-so control
Vogt early, Vogt often.
by Brickhaus on Sep 4, 2008 9:27 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Odd night for Kazmir
Five walks (Ugh)
Seven strikeouts (Yay)
More grounders than flyballs (Yay!)
80% fastballs (Ugh)
by R.J. Anderson on Sep 4, 2008 9:31 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Plus
One hit (Yay)
11 swinging strikes (Yay)
57% strikes (Ugh)
by R.J. Anderson on Sep 4, 2008 9:33 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
he pitched a mix game
but I still like when I saw Nasty Kaz out
by Underdogs on Sep 4, 2008 9:51 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Did we ever figure out if the use of Regression on this site is appropriate?
I.E. Aybar regressing to the mean indicates that he’ll improve his stats?
by kericr on Sep 4, 2008 9:32 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
do you mean can the word "regression" imply improvement in addition to getting worse?
if so, yes. statistically, at least.
by Sky Kalkman on Sep 4, 2008 9:34 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Mean is the middle
If you regress towards the mean, it just means you move closer to the middle.
Vogt early, Vogt often.
by Brickhaus on Sep 4, 2008 9:37 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
how is it correct?
you could think of it as from “regression to the mean”, which means moving the measure of data closer to the mean, thereby removing noise and reducing sample error. you can move data that’s above the mean or below the mean towards the mean.
you could also define regression as movement towards expectation.
by Sky Kalkman on Sep 4, 2008 9:38 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I am either confused, or see confusion in the use of that term within that scope.
Regression in statistical analysis is a measurement of the relationship between a set of values when compared to appropriate independent variables, but having your stats balance towards the mean indicates movement, which if you’re moving towards the mean in a positive fashion, the term ‘regression’ seems inappropriate, as that is a backwards movement from the initial visual outcome. To me, when talking about a shift in statistical balance forward in relation to the mean, ‘progression’ seems more appropriate.
by kericr on Sep 4, 2008 9:42 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Also
‘negative regression’ also seems like an appropriate use of a double-negative here.
by kericr on Sep 4, 2008 9:44 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Read and learn
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Regression_toward_the_mean
This far predates baseball, yo.
Vogt early, Vogt often.
by Brickhaus on Sep 4, 2008 9:44 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
For future refrence
I do not use Wikipedia for fact-checking.
by kericr on Sep 4, 2008 9:49 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
i agree that regression commonly implies getting worse
how about this dumb analogy — a regression equation takes input data and spits out an expectation. when you say a player is going to regress, their input data spits out a future expectation that their results will tend towards.
by Sky Kalkman on Sep 4, 2008 9:45 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
As D. Patrick used to say
“Can’t stop him….”
by nyyfaninlaaland on Sep 4, 2008 9:37 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
only hope to contain him!!
Only two hits for the Yanks tonight
by sofladude77 on Sep 4, 2008 9:38 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Gardner can really run
but can’t steal 1B. We need to bring Melky back from exile.
by nyyfaninlaaland on Sep 4, 2008 9:39 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
here comes pitch #90 from Aceves
pretty useful guy they got there
by joeybw on Sep 4, 2008 9:43 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Probably pushing Rasner to pen
I hope.
by nyyfaninlaaland on Sep 4, 2008 9:46 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
NYY running out of options
Rasner not working, Kennedy/Hughes failure, Ponson has fallen off, Aceves should get a shot.
by sofladude77 on Sep 4, 2008 9:47 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hughes isn't really a failure
he had broken ribs. i agree Kennedy was overhyped as a prospect, but should still be a decent 4th or 5th
by Sky Kalkman on Sep 4, 2008 9:48 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
How can you call Kennedy/Hughes failures?
by R.J. Anderson on Sep 4, 2008 9:48 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Plus Kennedy's tRA is better than Edwin's.
Hughes is high, but one bad season doesn’t make him a failure.
by R.J. Anderson on Sep 4, 2008 9:49 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Maybe they can't handle the pressure
A lot of players have had trouble in New York
by sofladude77 on Sep 4, 2008 9:50 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
a lot of players have had trouble in a lot of cities
by Sky Kalkman on Sep 4, 2008 9:51 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
some embrace the big stage
and some feel more comfortable in the less chaotic environments.
by sofladude77 on Sep 4, 2008 9:52 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Kennedy's a bit on the outs in NY
Took a tough loss in AAA playoffs tonight – below. But give him time. Hughes was rather good late last season – only Yanks playoff win. He should be fine too.
by nyyfaninlaaland on Sep 4, 2008 9:52 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
6 good starts don't make him a success either
by kericr on Sep 4, 2008 9:52 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I never claimed either was a success.
But to be a Rays fan and call a young pitcher a failure at this point in their career seems pretty ridiculous.
by R.J. Anderson on Sep 4, 2008 9:53 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I agree
But there just seems to be an excessive amount of enthusiasm for the guy. I’ve seen 1/3 a year of pretty good pitching followed by a year of not so much. My contention is that the Yankees made a dire mistake trying to count on him with Kennedy to handle the #2 and #3 spots in their rotation.
by kericr on Sep 4, 2008 9:57 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well yes, the hype was overkill.
But “not living up to the hype” != failure.
by R.J. Anderson on Sep 4, 2008 9:59 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
#3 and #4 spots, with Joba
and it would have been for one year of Santana. when they sign CC this off-season (which they wouldn’t have done if Santana was signed long term) they’ll have a Santana-like pitcher AND Hughes and Kennedy.
by Sky Kalkman on Sep 4, 2008 10:04 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Santana this year and Santana long term looks better than either Hughes or Kennedy, independently or combined.
by kericr on Sep 4, 2008 10:06 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
that's not the question
assuming the Yankees sign CC, he fills their Santana-type for 2009 through 2015.
so the question is Santana for 2008 or Hughes/Kennedy for 2008-2013
by Sky Kalkman on Sep 4, 2008 10:08 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I would say they made the right decision in not pulling the trigger on that trade
But then they went and traded prospects for Nady, so my answer would be no, Sanatana for 2008 would have been better than Hughes/Kennedy for 2008-2013 because the Yanks are solely and exclusively consumed with a win now at any cost mentality.
by kericr on Sep 4, 2008 10:11 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Way late so this won't be seen
but you are completely incorrect. Letting your anti-NYY feelings rule over analysis.
Look at what NY did in their pen this season – Veras, Ramirez, have important roles. Bruney didn’t start with NY but was picked up on waivers. Britton was acquired by trading a castoff (Jaret Wright). Hawkins was signed but dumped. Main FA acquisition of recent past (resigning Mo doesn’t count – we keep our own we like) Farnsworth was dished. Have seen guys like trade acquisition Albaladejo (hurt like every other pitcher), and promos Robertson and Coke. Yes they signed or traded for guys (Marte) to fill holes. But that’s exactly what the Rays have done.
And your point about Santana directly contradicts the win now at all costs point. As RJ suggests, the jury is still out.
by nyyfaninlaaland on Sep 5, 2008 12:32 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
ignore a year of injuries
go back to Hughes being a top pitching prospect and having moderate success in the majors over a few starts — worth being excited about, no?
by Sky Kalkman on Sep 4, 2008 9:53 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
plus they'll get Wang back
Wang
Joba
Hughes
Mussina/Pettitte
whoever
by Sky Kalkman on Sep 4, 2008 9:49 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Joba
No starts the rest of the season
by sofladude77 on Sep 4, 2008 9:50 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
next year. i don't think Wang will be back this year, either
by Sky Kalkman on Sep 4, 2008 9:51 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Really??
He’s pretty solid, unless they wanna bank on CC Sabathia or AJ Burnett
by sofladude77 on Sep 4, 2008 9:51 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Oh
I getcha, misread ur post. Real bizarre how interleague play knocked him out
by sofladude77 on Sep 4, 2008 9:54 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Foot still in a boot
Wouldn’t be shocked if they worked Joba up in innings again if they got hot and he was fine physically. Need to get him innings to up his possible work next season – that 30 inning bump thing you know.
by nyyfaninlaaland on Sep 4, 2008 9:56 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
i like how mlb.com has jaso listed as a pitcher.
by Vin on Sep 4, 2008 9:43 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Navarro runs really slow
Vogt early, Vogt often.
by Brickhaus on Sep 4, 2008 9:50 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Total aside - sorry to bore, but this game sucks to me
Yanks AA club went up 2-0 against Sox affilate. Buchholz started, went 6, 3ER, ND.
In AAA, Pawtucket squared series at 1. Kennedy went 7, 2ER, lost for Yanks. They released Jason Lane (from Astros) 2 weeks ago, he signed with Sox, drove in 2 of 3 runs tonight. Guess he was pissed.
Tough nite for Durham. What happened to Mason this year?
by nyyfaninlaaland on Sep 4, 2008 9:50 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
why you always get thrown out at home Navi
you need to work out and go on a diet
by joeybw on Sep 4, 2008 9:51 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
He did
He’s like 30 pounds lighter than he was last year. He needs to go off the Miguel Cabrera’s mom Venezuela mama diet though.
Vogt early, Vogt often.
by Brickhaus on Sep 4, 2008 9:52 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
his d fense skills
also improved a lot when he was playing winter ball
by Underdogs on Sep 4, 2008 9:53 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
told you the umpires are after us
they are doing all they can to keep us from scoring runs. THAT WASNT EVEN CLOSE
by Jombari on Sep 4, 2008 9:52 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Oof
He was safe by quite a bit, I’m suprised he beat the tag that bad; that was a really good throw.
by kericr on Sep 4, 2008 9:52 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
You got 3 fucking catchers Joe
PR for that fat ass
by sternfan1 on Sep 4, 2008 9:54 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
whats with the 2 straight fly balls by Bradford
that can not be the real Bradford
by joeybw on Sep 4, 2008 9:55 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I noticed that over the weekend
I was thinking he is off his game
by sofladude77 on Sep 4, 2008 9:56 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
BTW NYFAN
Yanks announcers said they’re calling up Melky tomorrow
Vogt early, Vogt often.
by Brickhaus on Sep 4, 2008 9:57 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Just out of curiosity were any of you the IT guy I saw in St. Pete today wearing the Longoria t-shirt?
by Top Gun Numba 1 on Sep 4, 2008 9:58 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Wonderful, you're a big help thanks
by Top Gun Numba 1 on Sep 4, 2008 10:01 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Your brother is an admin, get his email addy and find his Myspace or something.
What do you think SRQMan does?
by R.J. Anderson on Sep 4, 2008 10:04 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I just wanna know if he's in his 20s 30s or 40s
by Top Gun Numba 1 on Sep 4, 2008 10:06 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I was wearing a suit at the time???????
Jive-repellant
by Top Gun Numba 1 on Sep 4, 2008 10:27 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm still pissed about that Bradford deal
Shame on us and the Sox. Any speculation on the PTBNL.
What pissed me off was McPhail’s comment about needing to see some other pitchers. I knew Rocky Cherry sucked, why doesn’t he?
by nyyfaninlaaland on Sep 4, 2008 10:01 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Shutout in jeopardy
Jason Hammell warming up
by sofladude77 on Sep 4, 2008 10:03 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Whoa
When did BJ grow a horsemane?
Vogt early, Vogt often.
by Brickhaus on Sep 4, 2008 10:04 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
How fat does Britton look today?
He’s never gotten a fair shot in NY this season or last. Think he reminded Torre and Girardi of their former less svelte physiques
by nyyfaninlaaland on Sep 4, 2008 10:05 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Looks like Sidney Ponson and Bartolo Colon
by sofladude77 on Sep 4, 2008 10:05 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'd say names ending in "on" mean fat guy
but there’s BJ. Maybe just white guys
by nyyfaninlaaland on Sep 4, 2008 10:07 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
At least he got us a free pizza.
Good to see him contributing to the community.
by kericr on Sep 4, 2008 10:23 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
The traffic is hell trying to get out of the GDT
Plus the bridge.
by RATW on Sep 4, 2008 10:25 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Magrane will trash Hammel and Upton, nobody else.
Well that makes sense.
by R.J. Anderson on Sep 4, 2008 10:28 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Whoa holy shit
It was 6-0 when I left
WTF
by Top Gun Numba 1 on Sep 4, 2008 10:28 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
what are they saying im watching shitty YES
by davelrogers on Sep 4, 2008 10:28 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
if we lose this, it could be devistating.
9 = 8
by walkoffwalk on Sep 4, 2008 10:29 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
is hammel still better than byrd?
9 = 8
by walkoffwalk on Sep 4, 2008 10:30 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
It's probably close.
Hammel was at 5.61.
by R.J. Anderson on Sep 4, 2008 10:30 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm not sure what's more depressing, this game or the Mccaine speach
by Top Gun Numba 1 on Sep 4, 2008 10:31 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
"I'd rather lose an election than see this country lose a war"
/was in Vietnam
by Top Gun Numba 1 on Sep 4, 2008 10:32 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
What's depressing you about his "speech"?
Aikman and Bradshaw?
Please. They are in the same league as Trent Dilfer and Jim McMahon as QBs who were taken to the SB by great Defenses and great Running Games.
-DJCahill
by SarasotaRanger on Sep 4, 2008 10:34 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Just giving the guy his wish and asking what has deal was.
Don’t really give a damn about talking about it.
Aikman and Bradshaw?
Please. They are in the same league as Trent Dilfer and Jim McMahon as QBs who were taken to the SB by great Defenses and great Running Games.
-DJCahill
by SarasotaRanger on Sep 4, 2008 10:58 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ever since I was diagnosed with spina-bifida my only wish was that someone would respond to a comment I made
Thanks “SarasotaRanger” you’re fighting the good fight
by Top Gun Numba 1 on Sep 4, 2008 11:20 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
That there are actually people who will sublimate their own best economic interests to vote for this guy because he has an (R) next to his name
by Top Gun Numba 1 on Sep 4, 2008 10:35 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
George Bush doesn't care about black people.
McCain on the other hand, he likes white women all the same.
by kericr on Sep 4, 2008 10:37 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
You give up on that whole "no politics" kick already?
Aikman and Bradshaw?
Please. They are in the same league as Trent Dilfer and Jim McMahon as QBs who were taken to the SB by great Defenses and great Running Games.
-DJCahill
by SarasotaRanger on Sep 4, 2008 11:00 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Tell us again RJ how
Hammel is better than Byrd
by sternfan1 on Sep 4, 2008 10:32 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Byrd can't be called an Oxygen Thief.
Open-Air stadium.
by kericr on Sep 4, 2008 10:33 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
He was better.
Tonight may have ruined it.
by R.J. Anderson on Sep 4, 2008 10:33 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I wouldn't let Hammel pitch in my grabdson's LL game
by sternfan1 on Sep 4, 2008 10:34 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
At least Maddon didn't bring in Percival.
by R.J. Anderson on Sep 4, 2008 10:35 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Percival can't get it up that quickly anymore.
Not without his Viagra.
by R.J. Anderson on Sep 4, 2008 10:36 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Maddon should cut off Hammels balls and hang them to show what happens to jackass relief pitchers who give up 5 runs in an inning....
by Rays Rule on Sep 4, 2008 10:37 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs






















