9/5: RAYS (85-53) at TOR (73-66)
Tampa Bay Rays at Toronto Blue Jays, Sep 5, 2008 7:07 PM EDT
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Pitching Matchup:
| IP | tRA | + | K/9 | BB/9 | K/BB | HR/9 | OPS | WHIP | G/F | P/IP | ||
| RAYS | RH A. Sonnanst. |
162.0 | 3.97 | 120 | 5.44 | 1.61 | 3.38 | 1.00 | .785 | 1.34 | 1.04 | 15.19 |
| TOR | RH R. Halladay |
211.0 | 3.59 | 132 | 7.59 | 1.45 | 5.24 | 0.73 | .623 | 1.04 | 1.99 | 14.44 |
GO RAYS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Comments
FIRST!
MVP: Pena
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by SeanDubbs on Sep 5, 2008 5:47 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
FIRST FUCKING POST WITH AN OBSCENITY
by Top Gun Numba 1 on Sep 5, 2008 5:48 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
First Fucking reply to a post with an obscenity.
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by SeanDubbs on Sep 5, 2008 5:48 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Too busy touching yourself eh?
by Top Gun Numba 1 on Sep 5, 2008 5:52 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
"Relee Baysklef: I'm rather tall and overweight irl."
No shit. I’m astonished by such a revelation.
by kericr on Sep 5, 2008 5:56 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
47.46% chance of winning for the Rays today.
Gooo Rays!!
by lailaihei on Sep 5, 2008 5:53 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Well... the oddsmakers give them much worse... today is a good day to bet on the Rays.
by lailaihei on Sep 5, 2008 5:59 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
This is using your model that includes tRA, right?
by R.J. Anderson on Sep 5, 2008 6:02 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
tRA and BaseRuns from statcorner.com and defensive +/- and park factors from hardballtimes.com
Also Pythaganpat from Baseball Prospectus for deriving win % from estimated runs scored…
Jays have an advantage in pitching and defense, but the Rays have the hitting advantage.
by lailaihei on Sep 5, 2008 6:06 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
i heard this "Halladay" guy is pretty good.
9 = 8
by walkoffwalk on Sep 5, 2008 6:02 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
This GDT is shot to hell all ready.
by R.J. Anderson on Sep 5, 2008 5:57 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Carlos Quentin has a fractured right wrist and will undergo surgery Monday to insert a screw, the White Sox announced..
9 = 8
by walkoffwalk on Sep 5, 2008 6:07 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
yeah i knew the Twins were gonna take the central anyway
Liriano. be afraid, be very afraid
by daveh33 on Sep 5, 2008 6:07 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
eh i don't think that means it's over for the chisox.
9 = 8
by walkoffwalk on Sep 5, 2008 6:08 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
it's not a good sign for them
Twinkies’ rotation looks great right now… i love me some slowey. the sox are…old
by daveh33 on Sep 5, 2008 6:23 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
we have Slowey...he's pitching tonight for us.
9 = 8
by walkoffwalk on Sep 5, 2008 6:48 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
who would you feel most confident about hitting against in a game 7 playoff game?
Beckett
Liriano
by daveh33 on Sep 5, 2008 6:08 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Listen up, furries.
The game ends here. One of your compatriots just got boxed and I’ll continue doing it if I have to. This menace will be eradicated from this site.
by Patrick L. Kennedy on Sep 5, 2008 6:10 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Maybe it was my eradication of the furries.
Fine, I’ll relent. I will grant a reprieve for tastefully minimal amounts of furries.
by Patrick L. Kennedy on Sep 5, 2008 6:39 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
And thus the reign of terror ended after a mere 30 minutes.
by R.J. Anderson on Sep 5, 2008 6:41 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
What can I say, I'm a man of the people.
by Patrick L. Kennedy on Sep 5, 2008 6:43 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
now its all awkward. i don't want to
you can’t make me post furry pics
by daveh33 on Sep 5, 2008 6:44 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm a little teacup short and stout.
by Cory Alexander on Sep 5, 2008 6:37 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Baldelli has great numbers off of Halladay...why the heck is he on the bench?
9 = 8
by walkoffwalk on Sep 5, 2008 6:57 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Because individual numbers against individual pitchers mean nothing at all.
Be glad that you have a manager smart enough to know this.
by lailaihei on Sep 5, 2008 6:59 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
damnit
I know we are 3-1 but im so tired of facing Halladay so much
you better be on tonight, Sonny
by joeybw on Sep 5, 2008 7:01 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Statts gets so excited
lets get more while Halladay looks human
by joeybw on Sep 5, 2008 7:11 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
15 in the first for Halladay
more importantly, 2 runs
come on Sonny, dont suck
by joeybw on Sep 5, 2008 7:16 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
jesus 29 pitches through 2
not exactly making him work very hard.
Don’t let this lead go Sonny!
by joeybw on Sep 5, 2008 7:32 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
he wanted to get Wells
instead he got no one, i guess it happens to the best of them
by joeybw on Sep 5, 2008 7:35 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
oh god
is this the inning Sonny picked to suck in?
Even when he does well, he always has 1 horrid inning
by joeybw on Sep 5, 2008 7:38 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
alright
that sucked but I thought it would be worse, lets get this run back now
by joeybw on Sep 5, 2008 7:47 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
K/BB ratio doesn't always work
to explain pitchers. Definitely the case with Sonny. Yeah, he doesn’t walk many. But his pitches come in way too straight, and he leaves too many meatballs over the plate.
He might make a decent pitcher in the NL someday. He just doesn’t have it to hang in the AL East
by RayFanNY on Sep 5, 2008 7:47 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
well we can hope
that was just the inning he picked to suck
its usually(not his last start…) only 1 inning where he looks like garbage
by joeybw on Sep 5, 2008 7:49 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
stop getting exctied Statts
just makes it worse when the ball is caught
by joeybw on Sep 5, 2008 7:50 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
i wish they would at least make them work here
by joeybw on Sep 5, 2008 7:51 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Sonnanstine's BAA is .294
He’s really not all that good, but he throws strikes and doesn’t walk hitters. He’s serviceable, but when you get ahead of Halladay 2-0, you have to do a better job of making that stand up.
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Yes, we really do have fans.
by killa3312 on Sep 5, 2008 7:51 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I disagree
You’ll have the occasional unlucky hit, but over the course of the year you’ll have a lot more legitimate hits against you as a pitcher and unlucky ones. It’s no coincidence that most of the best pitchers in baseball history have a dominant BAA.
Sonny is just entireably too hittable. It doesn’t take a genius to figure that out. He leaves far too much up in the zone.
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by killa3312 on Sep 5, 2008 8:07 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
"Too hittable"
Yet has a lower LD% and HR rate than Jackson. Makes sense.
by R.J. Anderson on Sep 5, 2008 9:15 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
well, that one was
you know, they give you a bat for a reason, Pena
by joeybw on Sep 5, 2008 7:58 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
And with that I'm back out for a while.
Behave.
by R.J. Anderson on Sep 5, 2008 8:00 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
does Sonny have the worst hanging curveball in MLB?
by sofladude77 on Sep 5, 2008 8:01 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Aki saves Sonny's ass
Can he not give up anymore runs? Please?
by joeybw on Sep 5, 2008 8:04 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
We used up our run buffer
With Halladay, Downs and Ryan, can’t afford to give any more away
by sofladude77 on Sep 5, 2008 8:06 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
so in the Boston game
Beckett with be help to 50 or less pitches, go Rangers!
by joeybw on Sep 5, 2008 8:07 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
How many pitches
Will the Rangers pitchers throw tonight, 200?
by sofladude77 on Sep 5, 2008 8:08 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
you know what?
I want a 2 run home right here.
Anyone else?
by joeybw on Sep 5, 2008 8:08 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
ugh, Halladay gave us our chance
i doubt he gives another one
by joeybw on Sep 5, 2008 8:11 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I know we're in a pennant race
but screw it. I want to see Jaso and Perez for a game.
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Yes, we really do have fans.
by killa3312 on Sep 5, 2008 8:11 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Millwood shut out the Sox in the 1st
he just needs to do that 8 more times, thats all.
by joeybw on Sep 5, 2008 8:14 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
ROFL at the Rogers Centre
They opened up the room and its raining!!
by sofladude77 on Sep 5, 2008 8:15 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Thus why the Trop > every other stadium.
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by killa3312 on Sep 5, 2008 8:16 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
They just wasted money
for nothing
by sofladude77 on Sep 5, 2008 8:17 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
you know Doc is over 60 pitches
If we could come back, we would be looking real good with Shields and Garza(likes the Jays) up next
by joeybw on Sep 5, 2008 8:16 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
man
if Sonny could just have more innings like that
come on bats
by joeybw on Sep 5, 2008 8:18 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
damnit
stop swinging at garbage
our best chance is to make him work
i know they have a great pen but i dont care much about that when Halladay is pitching
by joeybw on Sep 5, 2008 8:23 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
2 great innings in a row for Sonny
come on offense…..
by joeybw on Sep 5, 2008 8:30 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
wow
top 6th already?
Sonny starts go so damn quick, whether he sucks or dominates
by joeybw on Sep 5, 2008 8:32 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Blue Jays pen best in baseball
You sure you wanna go there?
by sofladude77 on Sep 5, 2008 8:37 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
instead of Halladay?
unlesss Sabathia is in their bullpen, yes I wanna go there
by joeybw on Sep 5, 2008 8:37 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Scott Downs
1.23 ERA, LHP, no thanks
by sofladude77 on Sep 5, 2008 8:39 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Rays have to reset their rotation. We cant have Sonny matching up with Halladay. Ect..
by bucpimpin on Sep 5, 2008 8:37 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Shields, Kazmir, Garza, Jackson, Sonny
by sofladude77 on Sep 5, 2008 8:38 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
but
good throwing Kaz between the two good righties
by sofladude77 on Sep 5, 2008 8:39 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
well
Sonny and Jackson are just here to hold the spots for Price and Davis
cant exactly complain about their performances when that’s basically what they are there for
by joeybw on Sep 5, 2008 8:41 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
4-man rotation in playoffs
Jackson probably the 4th, not sure if the Rays wanna throw the youngsters in the playoffs
by sofladude77 on Sep 5, 2008 8:43 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
i would def want Jackson
he has been very good for a while now,his last start his line looked bad but thats because our defense was playing with concusions
by joeybw on Sep 5, 2008 8:45 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
definately Jackson
He has been one of our best road pitchers and had the worst luck the other night. He has better stuff than Sonny.
by sofladude77 on Sep 5, 2008 8:47 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
This thread pretty much points out why people think Ned Colletti is a good GM
RJ ANDERSON IS THE SECRET POLICE HALP.
by P Brady on Sep 5, 2008 9:12 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Also, Jesus fucking christ, Do we really want to see Jackson in a high pressure situation against good offenses?
RJ ANDERSON IS THE SECRET POLICE HALP.
by P Brady on Sep 5, 2008 9:14 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
there was a dayoff
Shields could of went today
by joeybw on Sep 5, 2008 8:39 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
ROFL at Toronto fans
using the Umbrellas in a retractable roof stadium
by sofladude77 on Sep 5, 2008 8:43 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
another good inning
and great D
for the 70th time tonight….come on offense!
by joeybw on Sep 5, 2008 8:43 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
this should be Halladay'slast innung
can we get to is pen?
of course if we keep swinging 2-0, maybe he will pitch the 8th
by joeybw on Sep 5, 2008 8:46 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
already love him
he flew to 3rd, navarro would of gotten to 2nd, had a heart attack and collapsed
by joeybw on Sep 5, 2008 8:49 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
happens too often
pena needs a big hit here
by joeybw on Sep 5, 2008 8:51 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
BJ blew it
Had a good one to hit with a 1-0 count
by sofladude77 on Sep 5, 2008 8:53 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
BJ and blow don't go well together when we are talking about Upton....
by Cory Alexander on Sep 5, 2008 8:54 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
great
we got a 2nd chance against Halladay
the pen pitches the 8th and 9th and I wouldnt expect a 3rd chance
by joeybw on Sep 5, 2008 8:53 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
1 DP all season
why the fuck doesnt he swing away?
by joeybw on Sep 5, 2008 8:55 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
No excuse
Halladay didn’t wanna pitch around to him to get to Pena
by sofladude77 on Sep 5, 2008 8:56 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Upton just needs to swing the bat
that’s simply inexcusable. Then again, why are you trying to squeeze home a run with a player that’s hit into one DP all year long?
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Yes, we really do have fans.
by killa3312 on Sep 5, 2008 8:54 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Look at gameday. the last pitch was so clearly a ball its not even funny.
by Acadien on Sep 5, 2008 8:56 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
For Halladay and Mussina
The umps call it a strike
by sofladude77 on Sep 5, 2008 8:57 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Scott Downs
will pitch the 8th likely
by sofladude77 on Sep 5, 2008 8:57 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
jesus
i didnt realize his ERA was fucking 1.23
maybe Pena will slam one out
by joeybw on Sep 5, 2008 8:59 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
time to take Floyd and Hinske out
Lefties rest of the way
by sofladude77 on Sep 5, 2008 9:03 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
plz shut them down JP
maybe we can get another miracle win, only down 1
by joeybw on Sep 5, 2008 8:57 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
this umpire is terrible
these Jay pitchers do not need any help
by joeybw on Sep 5, 2008 9:05 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
idiot
no way that looked like a strike to him
by joeybw on Sep 5, 2008 9:07 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
that great Ranger pitching is already down 5-0
by joeybw on Sep 5, 2008 9:10 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
No Kinsler the rest of the season either
Blalock back though
by sofladude77 on Sep 5, 2008 9:10 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
asshole Sox are gaining too damn quick
if we cant beat Ryan it is looking like it will be 2.5 already
by joeybw on Sep 5, 2008 9:12 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
we draw Yanks and Jays
they draw Orioles and Rangers
the fuck…..
by joeybw on Sep 5, 2008 9:16 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
we have given up 5 hits
4 were in 1 inning
come the fuck on
by joeybw on Sep 5, 2008 9:10 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
OH MY GOD WE'RE LOSING TO HALLADAY LOVE IS OVER
RJ ANDERSON IS THE SECRET POLICE HALP.
by P Brady on Sep 5, 2008 9:12 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
i dont think thats what upsetting people the most
its these fucking bunts
by joeybw on Sep 5, 2008 9:13 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Bunts = Wins
RJ ANDERSON IS THE SECRET POLICE HALP.
by P Brady on Sep 5, 2008 9:14 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
RJ has a mancrush on him.
RJ ANDERSON IS THE SECRET POLICE HALP.
by P Brady on Sep 5, 2008 9:15 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I liked his defense.
You know, like Barty.
by R.J. Anderson on Sep 5, 2008 9:18 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
thats all she wrote
why does this fucker remember he is supposed to hit homers when he faces us?
by joeybw on Sep 5, 2008 9:15 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Red Sox, White Sox and Twins winning
lame.
by joeybw on Sep 5, 2008 9:17 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Maddon gave him too much a vacation
now he’s rusty in a way
by sofladude77 on Sep 5, 2008 9:18 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
JACKSON IS BETTER
RJ ANDERSON IS THE SECRET POLICE HALP.
by P Brady on Sep 5, 2008 9:18 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
That would get you hard, I'm sure.
by R.J. Anderson on Sep 5, 2008 9:20 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Don't want it--but i seeit happening
Jays owe us big time
by sternfan1 on Sep 5, 2008 9:21 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
You don't want it, but yet you say it every fucking series.
Stop being a fucking attention whore.
by R.J. Anderson on Sep 5, 2008 9:22 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Brian Stover Fossyu
RJ ANDERSON IS THE SECRET POLICE HALP.
by P Brady on Sep 5, 2008 9:23 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
i dont know when to give up
but I dunno,maybe BJ will be wild here
by joeybw on Sep 5, 2008 9:19 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Bunting did a ton of good for us in the 7th.
by R.J. Anderson on Sep 5, 2008 9:22 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Bunting I like
Suicide sqeeze I don’t
by sofladude77 on Sep 5, 2008 9:23 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Bunting is usually only good when 1 R > 1+ R.
by R.J. Anderson on Sep 5, 2008 9:23 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
All our scrub hitters and fast guys
should all know how to bunt
by sofladude77 on Sep 5, 2008 9:24 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Quit it with the umps
it is so childish
by sternfan1 on Sep 5, 2008 9:22 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
And on Sunday the lead will be 1/2 game
Bets?
by sternfan1 on Sep 5, 2008 9:23 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Bets I bet your name in RL is proffessor pessimism.
Lower case in a pessimistic ee cummings style.
RJ ANDERSON IS THE SECRET POLICE HALP.
by P Brady on Sep 5, 2008 9:24 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
"I don't want it" yet you bet on it?
Stop being a fucking attention whore, now.
by R.J. Anderson on Sep 5, 2008 9:26 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
THIS IS WHY YOU DONT BUNT
RJ ANDERSON IS THE SECRET POLICE HALP.
by P Brady on Sep 5, 2008 9:23 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I am so glad that Zobrist is an offensive machine.
Right Magrane?
by R.J. Anderson on Sep 5, 2008 9:24 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
JACKSON FOR CLOSER
RJ ANDERSON IS THE SECRET POLICE HALP.
by P Brady on Sep 5, 2008 9:25 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
hey, lets do this!
come on Aki, if you bunt, i am going to Toronto, and I am taking away any chance of you having children
by joeybw on Sep 5, 2008 9:25 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
He's a little better at running to home than Navi
… that’s a plus
All things LONGORIA!
by RalphieTheRay on Sep 5, 2008 9:25 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
SO WE SHOW THE BUNT AGAIN.
OH DEAR LORD MADDON.
by R.J. Anderson on Sep 5, 2008 9:25 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
BUNTING IS SO FUCKING DUMB RIGHT NOW.
WE’RE DOWN BY MULTIPLE RUNS AND YOU ARE CONCEIVING A STRIKE OR AN OUT. JESUS.
by R.J. Anderson on Sep 5, 2008 9:26 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
im sorry your shoulder hurts
but give us a homer
by joeybw on Sep 5, 2008 9:27 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
come on BJ
gotta go for anything close with this umps here
by joeybw on Sep 5, 2008 9:28 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
WHAT
RJ ANDERSON IS THE SECRET POLICE HALP.
by P Brady on Sep 5, 2008 9:29 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
McDonald
ba da da da da, I’m lovin it
by sofladude77 on Sep 5, 2008 9:29 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I WANT YOU TO TAKE US IN YOUR BIG ARMS AND RUB US ALL NIGHT LONG.
by R.J. Anderson on Sep 5, 2008 9:30 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I emailed the same thing to future VP Palin
with the exception of the big arms… I left that one out.
I’m waiting for her response
All things LONGORIA!
by RalphieTheRay on Sep 5, 2008 9:32 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Dwayne Statts just got excited for a moment
by sofladude77 on Sep 5, 2008 9:30 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
wow
I guess we know what Pena is thinking
a double would do it though
by joeybw on Sep 5, 2008 9:30 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
WHAT
RJ ANDERSON IS THE SECRET POLICE HALP.
by P Brady on Sep 5, 2008 9:32 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
my heart just stoped
i thought he would call strike 3 there
by joeybw on Sep 5, 2008 9:33 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
NEXT PERSON TO COMMENT IS BANNED
RJ ANDERSON IS THE SECRET POLICE HALP.
by P Brady on Sep 5, 2008 9:33 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
NEXT PERSON TO COMMENT IS BANNED
RJ ANDERSON IS THE SECRET POLICE HALP.
by P Brady on Sep 5, 2008 9:33 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
We lost to a team that had their ace against our
4th/5th starter. Not a big concern.
www.raysbb.com
Yes, we really do have fans.
by killa3312 on Sep 5, 2008 9:35 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Keep rationalizing that
all the way to 2nd place
by sternfan1 on Sep 5, 2008 9:36 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
You email me after you're boxed.
So apparently you.
by R.J. Anderson on Sep 5, 2008 9:38 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
thats not what is upsetting us
its the bad decisions we kept making
by joeybw on Sep 5, 2008 9:38 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ultimately, the goal is to make the playoffs
So if the Rays finish in second place, so be it. It’ll be extremely difficult to hold off the Sox and while winning the East would be tremendous, I think we’d all take a playoff birth at this point.
www.raysbb.com
Yes, we really do have fans.
by killa3312 on Sep 5, 2008 9:40 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
anyone see what Liriano is doing to detroit?
i love him
by daveh33 on Sep 5, 2008 9:50 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

























