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Tampa Bay Rays at Toronto Blue Jays, Sep 6, 2008 1:07 PM EDT


I'm not sure how to do these.

 

Shaun Marcum - Kinda Good

James Shields - Really Good

 

 

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RJ ANDERSON IS THE SECRET POLICE HALP.

by P Brady on Sep 6, 2008 1:19 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Fuck.

RJ ANDERSON IS THE SECRET POLICE HALP.

by P Brady on Sep 6, 2008 1:21 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Probably a good thing I can't see this.

The Blue Jays are playing excellent baseball.

by RATW on Sep 6, 2008 1:24 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Ohio - 7, Ohio State - 6

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

RJ ANDERSON IS THE SECRET POLICE HALP.

by P Brady on Sep 6, 2008 1:24 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

+1

Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't matter, and those who matter don't mind.

by Sandy Kazmir on Sep 6, 2008 1:26 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Rios

Somebody kneecap that guy

Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't matter, and those who matter don't mind.

by Sandy Kazmir on Sep 6, 2008 1:25 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Yaybar

RJ ANDERSON IS THE SECRET POLICE HALP.

by P Brady on Sep 6, 2008 1:29 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

KUNG FU FIGHTING

RJ ANDERSON IS THE SECRET POLICE HALP.

by P Brady on Sep 6, 2008 1:31 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Fernie Bolt?

Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't matter, and those who matter don't mind.

by Sandy Kazmir on Sep 6, 2008 1:32 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Throw less strikes Marcum.

RJ ANDERSON IS THE SECRET POLICE HALP.

by P Brady on Sep 6, 2008 1:32 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

GOOD JOB

RJ ANDERSON IS THE SECRET POLICE HALP.

by P Brady on Sep 6, 2008 1:34 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

My Longo Wriststrong bracelet broke lst night and he gets activated today

Whatup

Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't matter, and those who matter don't mind.

by Sandy Kazmir on Sep 6, 2008 1:35 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

If Maddon made that call he's pressing.

Bunts and steals with guys who shouldn’t be?

by R.J. Anderson on Sep 6, 2008 1:35 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Cmon Jamie

Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't matter, and those who matter don't mind.

by Sandy Kazmir on Sep 6, 2008 1:40 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

ACE Hardware reports

a ‘rush’ on broom sales in and around Toronto

Shields on the road=Jackson type numbers

by sternfan1 on Sep 6, 2008 1:43 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

If you're pathetic,

I’ve been pathetic since like Triple Play ’99.

by Vin on Sep 6, 2008 1:51 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Was that the one with Sosa?

My N64 lived and died with All-Star Baseball.

by R.J. Anderson on Sep 6, 2008 1:53 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Aw hell, I don't remember.

I tried AS Baseball once, but hated that you couldn’t edit the players.

by Vin on Sep 6, 2008 1:55 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I was so confident they'd lose today and

last night, i haven’t turned the game on

Why is that/

by sternfan1 on Sep 6, 2008 1:51 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Funny,

according to some around here, Aki is marginal at best.

by Vin on Sep 6, 2008 1:52 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

He's not a bad player.

But I would take Mark Ellis over him if we could get trade Aki in a package for Mark Ellis.

by R.J. Anderson on Sep 6, 2008 1:54 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

his OBP is above league-average (if you look at career numbers and not just 2008)

it’s slightly lower than Aki’s, but I’d rather not have either Aki or Ellis leading off.

plus, if we get rid of Aki, we don’t have to put his replacement in the leadoff spot. CC (assuming his on-base skills return) is a pretty good leadoff option. then BJ, then Pena, then Longoria, then Hinske/Floyd/otherDH or new power-hitting RF.

also, nobody’s claiming Ellis would make a good leadoff hitter — his additional value comes in the field, where he’s sick.

by Sky Kalkman on Sep 6, 2008 2:02 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

;)

Aki’s just about league-average overall, maybe slightly better. that definitely has value, but also leaves plenty of room for an upgrade

by Sky Kalkman on Sep 6, 2008 2:10 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

whoa

last year, AKI had a bb/k ratio of 58/114; and this year he is out 57/114

9 = 8

by walkoffwalk on Sep 6, 2008 1:54 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

The thing I like most about Aki

is that he’s had at least a hit or a walk in 90% of the games he’s played this year.

by Vin on Sep 6, 2008 1:57 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

i wonder what other players' %s are

of course, almost all his hits are singles. but yes, that’s nice.

by Sky Kalkman on Sep 6, 2008 2:03 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

So, um, OSU is losing 14-5 now.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

RJ ANDERSON IS THE SECRET POLICE HALP.

by P Brady on Sep 6, 2008 1:59 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

DP!

RJ ANDERSON IS THE SECRET POLICE HALP.

by P Brady on Sep 6, 2008 2:01 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

pitches to contact

RJ ANDERSON IS THE SECRET POLICE HALP.

by P Brady on Sep 6, 2008 2:12 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

When it's all said and done

Kaz, Price, Garza, Davis, Shields

by sternfan1 on Sep 6, 2008 2:18 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

What's the point in replying?

You’d say something stupid about how new-fangled stats don’t tell you anything then go on a rant about how AAA pitchers you know next to nothing about are proven winners.

by R.J. Anderson on Sep 6, 2008 2:22 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

So you are saying

basically Shields>Garza, Price and Davis

OK, i noted it

by sternfan1 on Sep 6, 2008 2:25 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

right now, Shields is better than Garza

but Garza has a much higher ceiling and should be moderately better the next year or two. i also think Kaz is below Shields currently.

by Sky Kalkman on Sep 6, 2008 2:27 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

This is how our threads go:

Me: Sir, if you take this pill you’ll live longer.
You: I don’t take pills. Fucking new fangled-medicine. How do you even know that shit works?
Me: Sir, studies have been done it and experiments and a ton of other stuff that pro…
You: LIVES AREN’T LIVED IN TEST TUBES!
Me: Fucking die then. Shit.

by R.J. Anderson on Sep 6, 2008 2:25 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

2009:

Kaz/Shields/Garza/Sonny/Price

by R.J. Anderson on Sep 6, 2008 2:35 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

i'd add that the differences between the spots is important

there’s probably a gap after Garza and before Sonny. and all five pitchers should be at least #3’s in a typical rotation

by Sky Kalkman on Sep 6, 2008 2:41 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Ummmmm

RJ ANDERSON IS THE SECRET POLICE HALP.

by P Brady on Sep 6, 2008 2:27 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

and i disagree

he and Glaus have been just as valuable this year (Rolen’s fielding is awesome). and he’s locked up for two additional years at $11MM (which should be a good price — Rolen just has to be a win better than average to earn it). Glaus has an $11MM 2009 player option, which isn’t a good thing for a ballclub, because the only way a player exercises an option like that is when they aren’t worth it and can’t make more in free agency.

by Sky Kalkman on Sep 6, 2008 2:31 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Glaus has been better offensively

But Rolen’s glove, which obviously isn’t what it used to be, is still good and probably makes it a wash. The Jays just happen to focus more on defense.

by R.J. Anderson on Sep 6, 2008 2:31 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

why is he playing anyway?

Is it because of his terrible D or terrible bat?

Just curious

by joeybw on Sep 6, 2008 2:25 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Apparentely Shawn Marcum

and his fastball that tops out at 88 MPH is unhittable.

BTW, Zobrist sucks except for his occasional power surge.

www.raysbb.com

Yes, we really do have fans.

by killa3312 on Sep 6, 2008 2:25 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Zobrist back to being Zobrist

It was fun while it lasted.

by Schmidt on Sep 6, 2008 2:26 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

nice inning

some goddamn offense PLEASE?

by joeybw on Sep 6, 2008 2:29 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

ugh

i hate the Blue Jays, they make our pitching and defense look average

how are we 11-5 against them

by joeybw on Sep 6, 2008 2:37 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

11-6 is fortunate

and the Jays are better than their current overall record. But by almost any intelligent ranking system, we’re one of the two teams in baseball, along with the Red Sox. The Angels, White Sox, Cubs, and Jays are a step behind.

by Sky Kalkman on Sep 6, 2008 3:05 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

We've lost one in two months.

Stop being a douche or you’re going to be banned for a week.

by R.J. Anderson on Sep 6, 2008 2:54 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

One ER in two games=Contending?

34 runs in three games = Contending? You didn’t ask that last weekend though, did you?

by R.J. Anderson on Sep 6, 2008 2:56 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

ok seriously

why do you just come here and bitch? dont you have ANYTHING else to do?

by joeybw on Sep 6, 2008 2:56 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Seriously

the team goes into a little bit of a rut and the season is all a sudden over. Get a grip.

www.raysbb.com

Yes, we really do have fans.

by killa3312 on Sep 6, 2008 2:56 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

That's not the issue

I know that. But we need to win v whoever we’re playing

by sternfan1 on Sep 6, 2008 2:58 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Losses happen.

Home teams win 60% of the time. We’re a tick below .500 as is every other AL team minus the Angels.

by R.J. Anderson on Sep 6, 2008 3:01 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

No, you can bash them, but do it logically and fairly.

You never say anything positive. Why is this so hard to understand.

Acceptable: Edwin walks too many.
Unacceptable: Edwin is not intelligent.

by R.J. Anderson on Sep 6, 2008 2:58 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

bashing isn't the issue

many of your comments appear to be baiting other users. you nitpick small points and blow them up into big issues without looking at the big picture. you make bold, dramatic claims without backing them up with any sort of argument, statistical or logical. you often are off-topic (not as important in a GDT).

those are the things that tick people off. and it’s not just RJ you tick off. it’s not personal.

you have been constructive in the past. i, personally, do not think it’s too much to ask for you to change or leave.

by Sky Kalkman on Sep 6, 2008 3:09 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

fuck it, were coming back here

enough of this shit, i dont how good their pen is

by joeybw on Sep 6, 2008 2:57 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Wasn't he awful

the last time he pitched in the rotation. I think he got sent down to AAA at one point.

Wait, no… that was Towers.

www.raysbb.com

Yes, we really do have fans.

by killa3312 on Sep 6, 2008 3:05 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

To replace Burnett.

He’s got a 2.4 tRA as a reliever. If he can be a 3.4-4.4 starter it’s probably worth it.

by R.J. Anderson on Sep 6, 2008 3:06 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Oh yeah.

I keep forgetting about Burnett.

by Vin on Sep 6, 2008 3:08 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

He's going to make some team very happy.

He’s not too far off from Sheets/Sabathia levels. Pre-MIL Sabathia, at least.

by R.J. Anderson on Sep 6, 2008 3:10 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Per Kalk:

91 FB
91 Sinker
76 Curve
Big GBer, so his velo is probably less important than his break.

by R.J. Anderson on Sep 6, 2008 3:13 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Bartlett looks pretty silly right now.

8 straight balls after a 1st pitch out.

by Vin on Sep 6, 2008 3:03 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

sorta OT: Anyone else

think Downs looks like Christian Bale?

by joeybw on Sep 6, 2008 3:05 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Go rent American Psycho

Then you can check him out, LOL

by sofladude77 on Sep 6, 2008 3:08 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

lmao

one of my fav scenes is him in the raincoat dancing to the music and then just chopping Jared Leto

by joeybw on Sep 6, 2008 3:12 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Wow i missed most of the game

Glad Longoria off DL though. Was watching the US Open

by sofladude77 on Sep 6, 2008 3:06 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

bullshit

fucking bullshit

by joeybw on Sep 6, 2008 3:06 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

how many DP's have we hit into?

I fucking hate this. I need some This.Is.Garza bad tomorrow and a Rangers win tonight

by joeybw on Sep 6, 2008 3:07 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Matt Harrison against the Red Sox sucks

but I think they will smack Wakefield around

by joeybw on Sep 6, 2008 3:08 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Matt Harrison sucks against everyone

except the Rays. Then he turns into a combination of Steve Carlton and Lefty Grove.

www.raysbb.com

Yes, we really do have fans.

by killa3312 on Sep 6, 2008 3:11 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

plus the Red Sox

carve up lefty pitching

by sofladude77 on Sep 6, 2008 3:12 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

actually....

he’s a rookie who’s had mainly a good start followed by a bad start every time out htere. never two in a row of the same thing. fwiw, his last start would prob qualify as a bad start

"Well, the Dallas Mavericks got beat by the New Orleans Hornets last night ending their season. Word is that someone on the team is dating Jessica Simpson." - Jay Leno

LSB facebook group ---->>> http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=33345329288

by hinduplaya on Sep 6, 2008 3:21 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I know I am trying too hard to be happy

but at least Shields is eating up all the innings….

by joeybw on Sep 6, 2008 3:09 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Yeah

The U has been down for years, though UCF don’t have Kevin Smith anymore. That new UCF stadium can be loud.

by sofladude77 on Sep 6, 2008 3:14 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Not sure what USF's offense or defense look like.

I’m assuming UF is far better than Miami than USF is UCF.

by R.J. Anderson on Sep 6, 2008 3:17 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'll be disappointed if Florida doesn't win by at least 3 TDs

Sorry, but Miami simply isn’t very good. It’s going to take more than one recruiting class to turn that mess around.

www.raysbb.com

Yes, we really do have fans.

by killa3312 on Sep 6, 2008 3:16 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I hope Florida kicks the U's ass

Its time for some payback for the thug U

by sofladude77 on Sep 6, 2008 3:18 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

3-2

please PLEASE dont make this tease

by joeybw on Sep 6, 2008 3:16 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

BJ Ryan

shouldn’t be pitching today, he threw a lot yesterday.

by sofladude77 on Sep 6, 2008 3:17 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

does the ball look pretty Ruggs?

I expected that anyway,come on guys

by joeybw on Sep 6, 2008 3:22 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Fucking Ruggs

perfect pitch to hit the other way.

by Vin on Sep 6, 2008 3:22 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Another K for Ruggs

Expecting anything else?

by sofladude77 on Sep 6, 2008 3:22 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

OMFG

I LOVE YOU FERNIE YOU ARE SO GODDAMN QUICK

by joeybw on Sep 6, 2008 3:23 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Where are the pessimists now?

Now let’s win this damn thing.

www.raysbb.com

Yes, we really do have fans.

by killa3312 on Sep 6, 2008 3:23 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

AHAHAHAHA

"Well, the Dallas Mavericks got beat by the New Orleans Hornets last night ending their season. Word is that someone on the team is dating Jessica Simpson." - Jay Leno

LSB facebook group ---->>> http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=33345329288

by hinduplaya on Sep 6, 2008 3:24 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

DO NOT lose this one now

that will be a lot worse

battle of the 2 best bullpens?

by joeybw on Sep 6, 2008 3:25 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

He won't be used in the OF this season.

They don’t think they need him out there and he probably shouldn’t be used against righties.

by R.J. Anderson on Sep 6, 2008 3:26 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

he seems healthy

and awesome

and clutch

and most of all, is not named Eric Hinske

by joeybw on Sep 6, 2008 3:26 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

amazing comeback

after choking in the 8th

no other team would do that

by joeybw on Sep 6, 2008 3:27 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

C'mon Wheels

Keep the ball down please.

by Vin on Sep 6, 2008 3:28 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Zobrist is hardly necessary.

and you have to remember that either Hinske or Floyd (or both) won’t be back next year. Also, Ruggs has hardly made a case for himself, sadly.

I think we can fit him on the roster.

by Vin on Sep 6, 2008 3:30 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Still

DH: Rocco/?
OF: Carl, Upton, ?, Gross

Would a Fernie/Gross platoon work? It would be good defensively, but Fernie probably wouldn’t work offensively.

by R.J. Anderson on Sep 6, 2008 3:32 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Sit down Overbay.

I see the future. I see cake.

by Blicks on Sep 6, 2008 3:31 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

i wonder what they're sayin about this at bluebird banter.....

"Well, the Dallas Mavericks got beat by the New Orleans Hornets last night ending their season. Word is that someone on the team is dating Jessica Simpson." - Jay Leno

LSB facebook group ---->>> http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=33345329288

by hinduplaya on Sep 6, 2008 3:31 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

damnit

please get this next guy

and i hate Rolen, btw

by joeybw on Sep 6, 2008 3:33 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I LOVE YOU BARTY

RJ ANDERSON IS THE SECRET POLICE HALP.

by P Brady on Sep 6, 2008 3:33 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

good job Rolen

giving us a 10th

Barty is a goddamn hero, i dont care what he does with the bat

by joeybw on Sep 6, 2008 3:34 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Zobrist is a moron

Swinging at the first pitch against a pitcher with wild control.

www.raysbb.com

Yes, we really do have fans.

by killa3312 on Sep 6, 2008 3:37 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

honestly

is there any point to Zobrist?

random HR’s is the only thing he has done

by joeybw on Sep 6, 2008 3:37 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Every mistake Hinske makes is really Upton's.

He ragged on Ruggiano for a poor bunt attempt, but won’t do the same for Carl.

He really does have double standards for players.

by R.J. Anderson on Sep 6, 2008 3:41 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Grr; League.

I see the future. I see cake.

by Blicks on Sep 6, 2008 3:38 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

if this game goes a while

they have already used Downs and Ryan

We have only used Wheeler

what a battle these bullpens will be

by joeybw on Sep 6, 2008 3:38 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Gah.

RJ ANDERSON IS THE SECRET POLICE HALP.

by P Brady on Sep 6, 2008 3:41 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

ugh

whats with all these double plays damnit

come on bullpen, we need you again

by joeybw on Sep 6, 2008 3:41 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

If goes 11

bring in Jaso.

www.raysbb.com

Yes, we really do have fans.

by killa3312 on Sep 6, 2008 3:41 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Ehhhh

RJ ANDERSON IS THE SECRET POLICE HALP.

by P Brady on Sep 6, 2008 3:42 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

well hopefully there will be a 11th

And I would assume League would pitch it, maybe he will be tired in his 2nd inning

Who do they still have?

Carlson,and….. I dont know the other 3

by joeybw on Sep 6, 2008 3:42 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

stop them here and score in the 11th

because you know Percival is coming soon

by joeybw on Sep 6, 2008 3:44 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

damn

why cant we just have a 1-2-3 inning

by joeybw on Sep 6, 2008 3:46 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

fuck we need a DP

i dont wanna face Rios right now

by joeybw on Sep 6, 2008 3:47 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

stop it JP

get rid of him

by joeybw on Sep 6, 2008 3:50 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

i wish Price was here

he can just blow Rios away

of course, his 0.0 career IP dont back that up much

by joeybw on Sep 6, 2008 3:53 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

God dammit

I love having Bradford.

by Vin on Sep 6, 2008 3:56 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

basically for free tooo

O’s just wanted salary relief

and it got rid of Reyes, awesome move, <3 Friedman

by joeybw on Sep 6, 2008 3:57 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I just can't believe

we actually have him through next year, too.

by Vin on Sep 6, 2008 3:58 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

and here is Carlson

this ERA’s are insane

by joeybw on Sep 6, 2008 3:57 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs