Patrick L. Kennedy Is Lazy: 9/6 GDT
by P Brady on Sep 6, 2008 1:17 PM EDT
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I'm not sure how to do these.
Shaun Marcum - Kinda Good
James Shields - Really Good
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14-6. SS getting bigger.
Tools Whore
Sign Bonds!
+1
Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't matter, and those who matter don't mind.
Rios
Somebody kneecap that guy
Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't matter, and those who matter don't mind.
Fernie Bolt?
Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't matter, and those who matter don't mind.
My Longo Wriststrong bracelet broke lst night and he gets activated today
Whatup
Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't matter, and those who matter don't mind.
Cmon Jamie
Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't matter, and those who matter don't mind.
Is Baldelli being hermetically sealed in a plastic bubble somewhere?
Two ABs after his hot streak last weekend puzzles me.
ACE Hardware reports
a ‘rush’ on broom sales in and around Toronto
Shields on the road=Jackson type numbers
Being concerned != being a fucking attention whore.
The moment you learn this the moment you become a decent user.
by R.J. Anderson on Sep 6, 2008 1:47 PM EDT up reply actions
w/e you say RJ
it still adds up to bad baseball
In every baseball game I've ever played, Lyle Overbay has kicked my ass.
MVP Baseball, MLB 2k, The Show… Its weird.
I always love building a young cheap rotation the Show.
I’m pathetic.
by R.J. Anderson on Sep 6, 2008 1:50 PM EDT up reply actions
If you're pathetic,
I’ve been pathetic since like Triple Play ’99.
by Vin on Sep 6, 2008 1:51 PM EDT up reply actions
Was that the one with Sosa?
My N64 lived and died with All-Star Baseball.
by R.J. Anderson on Sep 6, 2008 1:53 PM EDT up reply actions
Aw hell, I don't remember.
I tried AS Baseball once, but hated that you couldn’t edit the players.
by Vin on Sep 6, 2008 1:55 PM EDT up reply actions
Jonathan Sanchez owns so hard in The Show.
by R.J. Anderson on Sep 6, 2008 1:59 PM EDT up reply actions
Does he?
The rosters I used barely resembled the default one, so I wouldn’t know.
by Vin on Sep 6, 2008 2:01 PM EDT up reply actions
Throws sidearmed, have a high 90's fastball.
Death to lefties.
by R.J. Anderson on Sep 6, 2008 2:02 PM EDT up reply actions
I was so confident they'd lose today and
last night, i haven’t turned the game on
Why is that/
Funny,
according to some around here, Aki is marginal at best.
by Vin on Sep 6, 2008 1:52 PM EDT up reply actions
He's not a bad player.
But I would take Mark Ellis over him if we could get trade Aki in a package for Mark Ellis.
by R.J. Anderson on Sep 6, 2008 1:54 PM EDT up reply actions
He's not a lead off hitter
jis low OBP kills it
his OBP is above league-average (if you look at career numbers and not just 2008)
it’s slightly lower than Aki’s, but I’d rather not have either Aki or Ellis leading off.
plus, if we get rid of Aki, we don’t have to put his replacement in the leadoff spot. CC (assuming his on-base skills return) is a pretty good leadoff option. then BJ, then Pena, then Longoria, then Hinske/Floyd/otherDH or new power-hitting RF.
also, nobody’s claiming Ellis would make a good leadoff hitter — his additional value comes in the field, where he’s sick.
;)
Aki’s just about league-average overall, maybe slightly better. that definitely has value, but also leaves plenty of room for an upgrade
The thing I like most about Aki
is that he’s had at least a hit or a walk in 90% of the games he’s played this year.
by Vin on Sep 6, 2008 1:57 PM EDT up reply actions
i wonder what other players' %s are
of course, almost all his hits are singles. but yes, that’s nice.
The next closest is BJ at 83%
last time I checked.
by Vin on Sep 6, 2008 2:03 PM EDT up reply actions
See, and nobody knows if you're being sarcastic or just stupid.
by R.J. Anderson on Sep 6, 2008 2:17 PM EDT up reply actions
When it's all said and done
Kaz, Price, Garza, Davis, Shields
What's the point in replying?
You’d say something stupid about how new-fangled stats don’t tell you anything then go on a rant about how AAA pitchers you know next to nothing about are proven winners.
by R.J. Anderson on Sep 6, 2008 2:22 PM EDT up reply actions
So you are saying
basically Shields>Garza, Price and Davis
OK, i noted it
right now, Shields is better than Garza
but Garza has a much higher ceiling and should be moderately better the next year or two. i also think Kaz is below Shields currently.
This is how our threads go:
Me: Sir, if you take this pill you’ll live longer.
You: I don’t take pills. Fucking new fangled-medicine. How do you even know that shit works?
Me: Sir, studies have been done it and experiments and a ton of other stuff that pro…
You: LIVES AREN’T LIVED IN TEST TUBES!
Me: Fucking die then. Shit.
by R.J. Anderson on Sep 6, 2008 2:25 PM EDT up reply actions
i'd add that the differences between the spots is important
there’s probably a gap after Garza and before Sonny. and all five pitchers should be at least #3’s in a typical rotation
and i disagree
he and Glaus have been just as valuable this year (Rolen’s fielding is awesome). and he’s locked up for two additional years at $11MM (which should be a good price — Rolen just has to be a win better than average to earn it). Glaus has an $11MM 2009 player option, which isn’t a good thing for a ballclub, because the only way a player exercises an option like that is when they aren’t worth it and can’t make more in free agency.
Glaus has been better offensively
But Rolen’s glove, which obviously isn’t what it used to be, is still good and probably makes it a wash. The Jays just happen to focus more on defense.
by R.J. Anderson on Sep 6, 2008 2:31 PM EDT up reply actions
Apparentely Shawn Marcum
and his fastball that tops out at 88 MPH is unhittable.
BTW, Zobrist sucks except for his occasional power surge.
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Yes, we really do have fans.
He's probably pretty thankful that more stuff than velocity matter.
by R.J. Anderson on Sep 6, 2008 2:27 PM EDT up reply actions
Not walking anyone and striking out 7+ per nine is pretty nice.
by R.J. Anderson on Sep 6, 2008 2:29 PM EDT up reply actions
Seems to have a homerun issue.
Looks to be recurrent with him.
by R.J. Anderson on Sep 6, 2008 2:32 PM EDT up reply actions
isn't Marcum the guy that umpires have mentioned has filthy stuff?
or is that another young Jays’ pitcher?
I know, but I have to find humor in his comments.
by R.J. Anderson on Sep 6, 2008 2:29 PM EDT up reply actions
I may be an idiot
but the sweep is on
And again, it doesn’t make me happy
Zobrist back to being Zobrist
It was fun while it lasted.
ugh
i hate the Blue Jays, they make our pitching and defense look average
how are we 11-5 against them
11-6 is fortunate
and the Jays are better than their current overall record. But by almost any intelligent ranking system, we’re one of the two teams in baseball, along with the Red Sox. The Angels, White Sox, Cubs, and Jays are a step behind.
We've lost one in two months.
Stop being a douche or you’re going to be banned for a week.
by R.J. Anderson on Sep 6, 2008 2:54 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm simply asking a question
is that so terrible?
One ER in two games=Contending?
34 runs in three games = Contending? You didn’t ask that last weekend though, did you?
by R.J. Anderson on Sep 6, 2008 2:56 PM EDT up reply actions
Seriously
the team goes into a little bit of a rut and the season is all a sudden over. Get a grip.
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Yes, we really do have fans.
The Jays are likely the third place team in the ALE.
People just look for drama.
by R.J. Anderson on Sep 6, 2008 2:57 PM EDT up reply actions
That's not the issue
I know that. But we need to win v whoever we’re playing
Losses happen.
Home teams win 60% of the time. We’re a tick below .500 as is every other AL team minus the Angels.
by R.J. Anderson on Sep 6, 2008 3:01 PM EDT up reply actions
No, you can bash them, but do it logically and fairly.
You never say anything positive. Why is this so hard to understand.
Acceptable: Edwin walks too many.
Unacceptable: Edwin is not intelligent.
by R.J. Anderson on Sep 6, 2008 2:58 PM EDT up reply actions
I never said anything like it
You boxed me for this
“Jason Balfour”
bashing isn't the issue
many of your comments appear to be baiting other users. you nitpick small points and blow them up into big issues without looking at the big picture. you make bold, dramatic claims without backing them up with any sort of argument, statistical or logical. you often are off-topic (not as important in a GDT).
those are the things that tick people off. and it’s not just RJ you tick off. it’s not personal.
you have been constructive in the past. i, personally, do not think it’s too much to ask for you to change or leave.
Wasn't he awful
the last time he pitched in the rotation. I think he got sent down to AAA at one point.
Wait, no… that was Towers.
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To replace Burnett.
He’s got a 2.4 tRA as a reliever. If he can be a 3.4-4.4 starter it’s probably worth it.
by R.J. Anderson on Sep 6, 2008 3:06 PM EDT up reply actions
He's going to make some team very happy.
He’s not too far off from Sheets/Sabathia levels. Pre-MIL Sabathia, at least.
by R.J. Anderson on Sep 6, 2008 3:10 PM EDT up reply actions
Per Kalk:
91 FB
91 Sinker
76 Curve
Big GBer, so his velo is probably less important than his break.
by R.J. Anderson on Sep 6, 2008 3:13 PM EDT up reply actions
i'm sure i could look it up, but i'm assuming he throws mostly sinkers relative to fastballs
if his curve is decent, he should be ok as a starter.
how many DP's have we hit into?
I fucking hate this. I need some This.Is.Garza bad tomorrow and a Rangers win tonight
Matt Harrison sucks against everyone
except the Rays. Then he turns into a combination of Steve Carlton and Lefty Grove.
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actually....
he’s a rookie who’s had mainly a good start followed by a bad start every time out htere. never two in a row of the same thing. fwiw, his last start would prob qualify as a bad start
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I expect the USF/UCF game to be the better of the two.
by R.J. Anderson on Sep 6, 2008 3:13 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah
The U has been down for years, though UCF don’t have Kevin Smith anymore. That new UCF stadium can be loud.
Not sure what USF's offense or defense look like.
I’m assuming UF is far better than Miami than USF is UCF.
by R.J. Anderson on Sep 6, 2008 3:17 PM EDT up reply actions
i think USF's shilaking of UCF last year is pretty close to reality
miami might surprise some this year
by Roc on Sep 6, 2008 3:19 PM EDT up reply actions
Probably not. Miami has a lot of talent and should keep it close for a while.
Tools Whore
Sign Bonds!
I'll be disappointed if Florida doesn't win by at least 3 TDs
Sorry, but Miami simply isn’t very good. It’s going to take more than one recruiting class to turn that mess around.
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How many NL pitchers hit line drives more than 25% of the time?
He needs to aim better, I guess.
by R.J. Anderson on Sep 6, 2008 3:20 PM EDT up reply actions
Where are the pessimists now?
Now let’s win this damn thing.
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AHAHAHAHA
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He won't be used in the OF this season.
They don’t think they need him out there and he probably shouldn’t be used against righties.
by R.J. Anderson on Sep 6, 2008 3:26 PM EDT up reply actions
Hinske has been VERY pedestrian since the start of July.
by Vin on Sep 6, 2008 3:27 PM EDT up reply actions
Zobrist is hardly necessary.
and you have to remember that either Hinske or Floyd (or both) won’t be back next year. Also, Ruggs has hardly made a case for himself, sadly.
I think we can fit him on the roster.
by Vin on Sep 6, 2008 3:30 PM EDT up reply actions
Still
DH: Rocco/?
OF: Carl, Upton, ?, Gross
Would a Fernie/Gross platoon work? It would be good defensively, but Fernie probably wouldn’t work offensively.
by R.J. Anderson on Sep 6, 2008 3:32 PM EDT up reply actions
i wonder what they're sayin about this at bluebird banter.....
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It's nice to be reminded of what it's like to have good range in left.
But man, Fernie’s arm is bad.
Zobrist is a moron
Swinging at the first pitch against a pitcher with wild control.
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Per Magrane Zobrist is an offensive machine.
by R.J. Anderson on Sep 6, 2008 3:38 PM EDT up reply actions
Every mistake Hinske makes is really Upton's.
He ragged on Ruggiano for a poor bunt attempt, but won’t do the same for Carl.
He really does have double standards for players.
by R.J. Anderson on Sep 6, 2008 3:41 PM EDT up reply actions
if this game goes a while
they have already used Downs and Ryan
We have only used Wheeler
what a battle these bullpens will be
well hopefully there will be a 11th
And I would assume League would pitch it, maybe he will be tired in his 2nd inning
Who do they still have?
Carlson,and….. I dont know the other 3
i wish Price was here
he can just blow Rios away
of course, his 0.0 career IP dont back that up much
basically for free tooo
O’s just wanted salary relief
and it got rid of Reyes, awesome move, <3 Friedman
I just can't believe
we actually have him through next year, too.
by Vin on Sep 6, 2008 3:58 PM EDT up reply actions
Ruggiano's O-Swing% is close to equal Longoria's.
by R.J. Anderson on Sep 6, 2008 4:06 PM EDT up reply actions
Then he presses alot
Just looks miserable against a breaking ball.
by Vin on Sep 6, 2008 4:10 PM EDT up reply actions
I also wouldn't be surprised if Fernie is
He doesn’t have nearly as many holes in his swing
Vogt early, Vogt often.
I still have his 11 pitch homerun etched in my memory.
by R.J. Anderson on Sep 6, 2008 4:14 PM EDT up reply actions
Disappointing.
But his line drives still give me hope.
by R.J. Anderson on Sep 6, 2008 4:15 PM EDT up reply actions
That's really not an appropriate answer.
A thing called bad luck does happen.
by R.J. Anderson on Sep 6, 2008 4:21 PM EDT up reply actions
Strikeouts aren't bad luck most of the time.
He can’t lay off the curveball, you can’t defend his offensive futility my friend.
I never claimed strikeouts were bad luck.
I think it’s implied when I keep stating that his liners are being hit where people are, and that IS bad luck.
by R.J. Anderson on Sep 6, 2008 4:23 PM EDT up reply actions
Can't blame bad luck all the time
I could say the same for Aybar for a few, but he looks overmatched at the plate, its really hard to watch him at the plate.
Aybar DID have bad luck.
He’s had like a .850 OPS since taking over for Longoria. It’s called progression to the mean.
by R.J. Anderson on Sep 6, 2008 4:26 PM EDT up reply actions
yes on Aybar
He did a lot better job than I expected, its gonna be nice to get Longoria back in at 3rd with the smooth and quick delivery on defense though.
Yeah, I dunno
my hopes for him are dwindling. Given how godly Friedman is, I’m beginning to think that maybe it was less about Ruggiano being a dick, and more about him being a AAAA hitter.
by Vin on Sep 6, 2008 4:18 PM EDT up reply actions
Maybe, but he's hitting 28% liners and striking out around the same pace as he did in Durham.
by R.J. Anderson on Sep 6, 2008 4:19 PM EDT up reply actions
Yet nothing else is translating.
SSS, I know. But I’m not sure he’s been that unlucky.
by Vin on Sep 6, 2008 4:21 PM EDT up reply actions
So he is pretty unlucky...
I really wish we had a larger sample size. Should have brought him up for Gomes earlier.
by Vin on Sep 6, 2008 4:24 PM EDT up reply actions
It just seems odd.
Awful K rate has transferred, good LD, but awful BB. That’s why I think he’s pressing a bit and trying to hit a homerun everytime up. Maybe not, maybe there’s a ton of holes that are being aken advantage of.
by R.J. Anderson on Sep 6, 2008 4:25 PM EDT up reply actions
Hmm that was a long while back
I’m talking about his 2nd stint, nothing about his first run with the Rays
who didnt see that one coming?
give me a 12th please
Carlson is probably done, getting through a lot off these stud RP’s.We have Aussie(OMG HE SUCKS HE GAVE UP A HR), Percival(bleh),Miller(major bleh), Hammel(NO!) and still Bradford
The Jays' pitching staff is really, really good
Thankfull their offense is abysmal enough to make up for it.
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I got an email back from Graham about if there is a scientific method to measuring line drives....
There is no strictly scientific way of differentiating between a line drive and a fly ball, which is done by trained scorers from MLB or STATs. However, you can be fairly sure that there’s a good consensus on what constitutes a line drive by looking at the variation in park effects – we see line drives getting called at essentially the same rate across MLB. The may be theoretical problems over tiny sample sizes (i.e. one start), but otherwise any fuzziness in the data evens out.
This may not be true for minor league data.
-Graham
9 = 8
Carlson
Tallet time
this is there 5th RP, i think they are out of studs and this is great news for tomorrow
WOOO I FOUND THE GAME IN MY DORM!
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BELIEVE in 08!
btw Notre Dame is overrated this year
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That would be nice
Double is good though.
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BELIEVE in 08!
cmon Beeeeeeeeeeej
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BELIEVE in 08!
I have a Ba'ad feel'n
They’re going to lose, I just no it.
——Eyore
BTW, of course Kennedy’s lazy he’s a bootlegger.
CLUTCH WALK!
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BELIEVE in 08!
We have the entire Jesus family on base.
Black on 1st, Sexy on 3rd.
I think we can do this.
by Vin on Sep 6, 2008 4:37 PM EDT up reply actions
If he hurts Carlos, I'll fly to Toronto and stab him in the neck!
Tools Whore
Sign Bonds!
I kinda wanna see this
but I am sick of our guys getting hit. (I know Carlos didn’t but we seem to get hit a lot)
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BELIEVE in 08!
Pena should of taken one for the team
and got hit by that 2-0 pitch. I hate it when crappy control pitchers suddenly find it behind 3-0 in the count.
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Think of how good Rocco would be without that condition
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He doesn't strike out
And he walks much more.
And he can hit righties, Ruggs can’t
Vogt early, Vogt often.
60 at-bats isn't enough to say that.
Stop being a dumbass.
by R.J. Anderson on Sep 6, 2008 5:04 PM EDT up reply actions
And he's said that every fucking comment.
At least be original.
by R.J. Anderson on Sep 6, 2008 5:05 PM EDT up reply actions
When I work in Marketing for the Rays i'm going to make a star out of Baldelli
It’s a nice day to start again
HUGGGGGGGEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Sign Bonds!
now we get to see Percival
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Ended Hudson Valley's season early
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by DAM on Sep 6, 2008 5:11 PM EDT up reply actions
Your turn to drive Ill bring the beer
Its the late, late shift no one to fear
by HAHAHA OH WOW on Sep 6, 2008 5:13 PM EDT up reply actions
i hate this
leave the aussie in he was LIGHTS OUT
OT:
Notre Dame is still as awful as ever. Maybe people will remember now that the Irish went 3-9 for a reason last year and will stop those assine 10 win season predictions.
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LMAO
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OK
I’m officially on the Percy not the closer bandwagon
Where’s Sternfan when you need him.
Vogt early, Vogt often.
Me too. I've said all season, that it's best to have Percy in the closer role because it allows us to use our best reliever in the most important situations.
However, we need to go to a closer by committee now. It didn’t affect our pen while Percy was on the DL, it shouldn’t affect us now.
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Sign Bonds!
NEVER AGAIN!!!
NO MORE TROY PERCIVAL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
HE SUCKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
MADDEN SUCKS FOR PLAYING HIM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
As a Rangers fan
I fell for all of you. We’ve had thus happen wayyyyyyy too amny times
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within 2 years
some ofhte guys we got comin up are gonna makle us real good real quick
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PERCY WHY DO YOU FEEL THE NEED TO LIE AND CAUSE US SO MUCH PAIN
MAYBE ITS SOMETHING INSIDE, MAYBE ITS SOMETHING YOU CAN’T EXPLAIN. CAUSE ALL YOU DO IS FUCK THINGS UP AND LIE TO US.
thankfully the large hadron collider will kill us all in a giant black hole
before we get to the end of this painful month.
Box me if you must
THIS SEASON IS OVER
Thank You Joe
Thank You Percy
Oh and btw we have that POS for $4 million guaranteed next season
Mets up 7 with 17 to go
shove that stat up your ass
and so much for being undefeated when Percy pitches with the lead
god damnit this hurts and why the fuck is he the closer? Is it because he was once great?
And oh btw, where has Rocco been?
Suddenly he can’t hit RHP?
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