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Meet Dan Johnson and Michel Hernandez

The Heater says there is "reason to believe both will join the team today."

Hernandez is essentially a life long minor leaguer. He recieved a few at-bats with the Yankees years ago. He's a line drive and groundball hitter although I wouldn't expect much from him offensively.  In Indianapolis Hernandez threw out 19 of 74 attempted base stealers or 20%, John Jaso's numbers for comparison are unavailable.

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Johnson is a former top prospect with the Oakland Athletics who the Rays claimed on waivers way back in May. He was promptly designed for assignment a day later and after clearing waivers has killed Triple-A pitching. Johnson has walked and struck out at nearly a 1:1 rate in the majors. He bats lefty and is not a pretty  sight in the  field, but his bat is good.

And Joel Guzman has been designated for assignment. I'm not sure if someone will claim him on waivers. Johnson apparently might start in left.

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Dear god NO DAN JOHNSON

It doesn’t make sense to waste Dale Thayers roster spot on a guy who will be DFA’d.

The line it is drawn/The curse it is cast/The slow one now/Will later be fast/ As the present now/Will later be past/The order is/Rapidly fadin'./And the first one now/Will later be last/For the times they are a-changin'..- Bob Dylan

by thebaddancingraysfan on Sep 9, 2008 3:15 PM EDT reply actions   1 recs

Huh?

Why would Dan Johnson get DFAed? The plan all along was to add him to the 40-man roster and invite him to spring training next year. He’s a good backup option if we can’t sign a free agent and Floyd gets hurt.

Vogt early, Vogt often.

by Brickhaus on Sep 9, 2008 4:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

There HAS to be better options.

The line it is drawn/The curse it is cast/The slow one now/Will later be fast/ As the present now/Will later be past/The order is/Rapidly fadin'./And the first one now/Will later be last/For the times they are a-changin'..- Bob Dylan

by thebaddancingraysfan on Sep 9, 2008 4:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

You're hate for Johnson is bordering on stupid.

At least provide some sort of explaination as to why you think he’s so awful.

by Vin on Sep 9, 2008 4:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

To save on redundency, see above and other comments throughout the season.

He is LH bat, we have plenty. He is slow and does not run the bases all that well. He has limited range. So pretty much what we have here is a guy who can play 1B or DH… wow. that’s a step up on the bench. I don’t see in the long run how a player like Dan Johnson will help the Rays be a better team. I honestly like Aybar as a back up to Pena a lot more. He is a switch hitter, good fair range and and can assist more then long term then Johnson.

Again, I thought the pick-up of Johnson when Pena went down with injury was good. Then when the need for Johnson diminished I thought it was a great idea. I am not against bringing up Johnson if we just had some room to “putz” around with with. But, I think Johnson spot could be better served by a reliever like a Dale Thayer, then a Dan Johnson.

Member of this blog have provided good reasoning give him shot this year, yes. But, in the long-run and long term I think fully that Guzman would have been the better investment over Johnson.

The line it is drawn/The curse it is cast/The slow one now/Will later be fast/ As the present now/Will later be past/The order is/Rapidly fadin'./And the first one now/Will later be last/For the times they are a-changin'..- Bob Dylan

by thebaddancingraysfan on Sep 9, 2008 4:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

FWIW

He’s never had a lefty/righty split, so the ‘left-handed bat’ part of the argument doesn’t hold a ton of water.

Vogt early, Vogt often.

by Brickhaus on Sep 9, 2008 4:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

What do you have against Dan Johnson?

He’s a 100 OPS+ hitter in the majors. He’s killed the ball in the minors. He doesn’t have much upside, but he’s a better option than trotting Jonny Gomes out there.

Vogt early, Vogt often.

by Brickhaus on Sep 9, 2008 4:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

Agreed Johnson is better then Gomes. But don't just bring up a Guy will will basically not add anything to the team for the future.

Do I feel that Johnson will help in securing our lead in the AL East? Not really.

The line it is drawn/The curse it is cast/The slow one now/Will later be fast/ As the present now/Will later be past/The order is/Rapidly fadin'./And the first one now/Will later be last/For the times they are a-changin'..- Bob Dylan

by thebaddancingraysfan on Sep 9, 2008 4:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

Thayer?

I would have to say “yes.” He is a good RHP with a unique delivery who add more depth into the bullpen and give some guys a rest.

The line it is drawn/The curse it is cast/The slow one now/Will later be fast/ As the present now/Will later be past/The order is/Rapidly fadin'./And the first one now/Will later be last/For the times they are a-changin'..- Bob Dylan

by thebaddancingraysfan on Sep 9, 2008 4:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

Good grief.

Is Juan Salas making a difference? Because he’d be used less than Juan Salas.

You’re really overreacting here.

by Vin on Sep 9, 2008 4:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

Rec'd for unbelievable failure.

And everyone should do the same.

And I know BDRF will laugh at this himself, because he’s a good sport.

by kericr on Sep 10, 2008 10:30 AM EDT up reply actions  

I would rather have Joel Guzman then Dan Johnson

RH bat, some pop. Only 24… can play three positions rather well rather then Dan Johnson so is just a poor-man’s Aubrey Huff. Great job on sucking on this decision FO… way to go.

The line it is drawn/The curse it is cast/The slow one now/Will later be fast/ As the present now/Will later be past/The order is/Rapidly fadin'./And the first one now/Will later be last/For the times they are a-changin'..- Bob Dylan

by thebaddancingraysfan on Sep 9, 2008 3:22 PM EDT reply actions  

Plus, the only position Guzman plays well is 3B.

I wouldn’t mind if he got called up too, but this hate on DanJo is uncalled for.

I think someone just doesn’t like gingers.

by Vin on Sep 9, 2008 3:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

Actually I love Gingers thank you very much.

No hate on Dan Johnson. It doesn’t make sense. It really doesn’t. He is a LH bat with some pop, yes. But Guzman has WAY more upside then a 3 week jaunt with Dan Johnson. Big mistake.

Also, Guzman was very servicible at first base, with MORE RANGE then Johnson. Johnson would have been helpful in 2006 not 2008.

The line it is drawn/The curse it is cast/The slow one now/Will later be fast/ As the present now/Will later be past/The order is/Rapidly fadin'./And the first one now/Will later be last/For the times they are a-changin'..- Bob Dylan

by thebaddancingraysfan on Sep 9, 2008 3:28 PM EDT up reply actions   2 recs

I'll rec it as well.

DanJo would walk as a MiL FA if he wasn’t added. THAT would be a huge mistake, IMO.

Especially since Hinske should walk and Floyd may retire.

by Vin on Sep 9, 2008 3:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

You sir are a stong man.

Gingers scare me…… hence P. Brady scares the shit out of me.

Top Josh Paul Pornos- Big Navi Stroking, 2pitchers1cup, BJ to the Balls, Riggans Your Thingans

BELIEVE in 08!

by SRQman on Sep 9, 2008 3:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

nope, not scary my friend...

The line it is drawn/The curse it is cast/The slow one now/Will later be fast/ As the present now/Will later be past/The order is/Rapidly fadin'./And the first one now/Will later be last/For the times they are a-changin'..- Bob Dylan

by thebaddancingraysfan on Sep 9, 2008 3:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

I bet she doesn't smoke either

Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't matter, and those who matter don't mind.

by Sandy Kazmir on Sep 9, 2008 3:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

Joel Guzman is terrible

So is Dan Johnson in LF if that is a serious proposition.

Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't matter, and those who matter don't mind.

by Sandy Kazmir on Sep 9, 2008 3:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

Can't be worse than Hinske.

I’m all for DanJo taking all of Hinske’s playing time.

by Vin on Sep 9, 2008 3:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hinske's legs work

plus he is gritty.

Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't matter, and those who matter don't mind.

by Sandy Kazmir on Sep 9, 2008 3:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hinske is 1,000,000, 000, 000 times great then Dan Johnson.

No contest.

The line it is drawn/The curse it is cast/The slow one now/Will later be fast/ As the present now/Will later be past/The order is/Rapidly fadin'./And the first one now/Will later be last/For the times they are a-changin'..- Bob Dylan

by thebaddancingraysfan on Sep 9, 2008 3:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

still if I had to chose between the two in a bottom of the 9th situation

with the game on the line, I would chose Hinske.

Hinske at his worst will always be greater then Johnson at his best.

I thought Johnson was a nice stop gap when Pena may have gone out with a hammy. But, he didn’t so escencially there was no reason to have Dan Johnson around with the exception of a insurance policy.

The line it is drawn/The curse it is cast/The slow one now/Will later be fast/ As the present now/Will later be past/The order is/Rapidly fadin'./And the first one now/Will later be last/For the times they are a-changin'..- Bob Dylan

by thebaddancingraysfan on Sep 9, 2008 3:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm assuming you are either a die hard A's fan

or you’ve watched every single Bulls game this year.

by Vin on Sep 9, 2008 3:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

A's who are they?

Bulls. Yeah since Jordan retired or left to Wizards they are not really the same team. But, …

No, that’s probably a flaw in my “hate” for the Red Rooster. But, i just don’t find the need for him. We get Longo back in a few days. He will be deemed useless. It’s not like Pena his a floundering at 1B…

The line it is drawn/The curse it is cast/The slow one now/Will later be fast/ As the present now/Will later be past/The order is/Rapidly fadin'./And the first one now/Will later be last/For the times they are a-changin'..- Bob Dylan

by thebaddancingraysfan on Sep 9, 2008 3:43 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

yep

The line it is drawn/The curse it is cast/The slow one now/Will later be fast/ As the present now/Will later be past/The order is/Rapidly fadin'./And the first one now/Will later be last/For the times they are a-changin'..- Bob Dylan

by thebaddancingraysfan on Sep 9, 2008 3:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

Thats what I thought.

For what its worth, DanJo has a better Range Factor than Hinske at 1B by over a point.

And, even though the SS size is very small, he has a better RFg in LF too.

by Vin on Sep 9, 2008 3:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

It's not worth much.

But I don’t have enough data to run the other defensive tests.

by R.J. Anderson on Sep 9, 2008 3:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

FAIL
Hinske at his worst will always be greater then Johnson at his best.

2007:
Johnson – .236/.349/.418, 108 OPS+
Hinske – .204/.317/.398, 83 OPS+

Vogt early, Vogt often.

by Brickhaus on Sep 9, 2008 4:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

You got me there.

Good point. Let’s put it this way. The A’s would have rather had Wes Bankston then Dan Johnson.

The line it is drawn/The curse it is cast/The slow one now/Will later be fast/ As the present now/Will later be past/The order is/Rapidly fadin'./And the first one now/Will later be last/For the times they are a-changin'..- Bob Dylan

by thebaddancingraysfan on Sep 9, 2008 4:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

Not really

Dan Johnson was out of options. They tried to pass him through waivers to get him to the minors, and we claimed him. The choice was Dan Johnson or Daric Barton.

Vogt early, Vogt often.

by Brickhaus on Sep 9, 2008 4:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

You have good points.

The line it is drawn/The curse it is cast/The slow one now/Will later be fast/ As the present now/Will later be past/The order is/Rapidly fadin'./And the first one now/Will later be last/For the times they are a-changin'..- Bob Dylan

by thebaddancingraysfan on Sep 9, 2008 4:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

Guzman is awful

Really, I promise.

Vogt early, Vogt often.

by Brickhaus on Sep 9, 2008 4:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

Guzman DFA?

Wow. Why wouldn’t they just transfer Ryu to the 60-day?

by Vin on Sep 9, 2008 3:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yes.

The line it is drawn/The curse it is cast/The slow one now/Will later be fast/ As the present now/Will later be past/The order is/Rapidly fadin'./And the first one now/Will later be last/For the times they are a-changin'..- Bob Dylan

by thebaddancingraysfan on Sep 9, 2008 3:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

Finally an upgrade on offense

Tell your readers you can’t steal 1B

by sternfan1 on Sep 9, 2008 3:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

OBP

Out of Body Preparation, right?

The line it is drawn/The curse it is cast/The slow one now/Will later be fast/ As the present now/Will later be past/The order is/Rapidly fadin'./And the first one now/Will later be last/For the times they are a-changin'..- Bob Dylan

by thebaddancingraysfan on Sep 9, 2008 3:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

Fernie is using that melon of his to find a way as we speak.

Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't matter, and those who matter don't mind.

by Sandy Kazmir on Sep 9, 2008 3:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

The Genius will always find a way.

Baseball’s rules committee come to Fernie for advice. It is said that Fernando Perez reads the iliad before entering the batters box, he reads the Latin text of the Iliad!

The line it is drawn/The curse it is cast/The slow one now/Will later be fast/ As the present now/Will later be past/The order is/Rapidly fadin'./And the first one now/Will later be last/For the times they are a-changin'..- Bob Dylan

by thebaddancingraysfan on Sep 9, 2008 3:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

I heard he once read Finnegan's Wake

Backwards and translated it all the languages into Sanskrit

Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't matter, and those who matter don't mind.

by Sandy Kazmir on Sep 9, 2008 3:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

You know the theory of relativity?

Fernie gave Einstein a sheet of paper, after he mastered quantum-physics. That’s what Fernie does when gets bored. He time travels!

The line it is drawn/The curse it is cast/The slow one now/Will later be fast/ As the present now/Will later be past/The order is/Rapidly fadin'./And the first one now/Will later be last/For the times they are a-changin'..- Bob Dylan

by thebaddancingraysfan on Sep 9, 2008 4:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

Fernie time-traveled to THE BEGINNING

and planted the seeds for mankind

Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't matter, and those who matter don't mind.

by Sandy Kazmir on Sep 9, 2008 4:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

No, that was what happened when Fernie messed with cross-species breeding.

He breed an Ox with a snail. Not one of Fernie’s better days. But still.

The line it is drawn/The curse it is cast/The slow one now/Will later be fast/ As the present now/Will later be past/The order is/Rapidly fadin'./And the first one now/Will later be last/For the times they are a-changin'..- Bob Dylan

by thebaddancingraysfan on Sep 9, 2008 4:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

Let's put it this way.

Chuck Norris calls Fernando Perez for advice.

The line it is drawn/The curse it is cast/The slow one now/Will later be fast/ As the present now/Will later be past/The order is/Rapidly fadin'./And the first one now/Will later be last/For the times they are a-changin'..- Bob Dylan

by thebaddancingraysfan on Sep 9, 2008 4:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

I heard Fernie summoned Bobby Fischer from the dead just so they could

have a geo-political debate over a rousing 36 hour marathon chess tournament.

Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't matter, and those who matter don't mind.

by Sandy Kazmir on Sep 9, 2008 4:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

I heard the chess match was over after Fernie checked mated Bobby Fisher in three moves?

Why three? Because Fernie was side-tracked solving the famine issue in Ethiopia!

The line it is drawn/The curse it is cast/The slow one now/Will later be fast/ As the present now/Will later be past/The order is/Rapidly fadin'./And the first one now/Will later be last/For the times they are a-changin'..- Bob Dylan

by thebaddancingraysfan on Sep 9, 2008 4:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

Dang thats a BAMF

Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't matter, and those who matter don't mind.

by Sandy Kazmir on Sep 9, 2008 4:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

That is the greatness of Fernando "I am greater then Samuel L. Jackson" Perez!

The line it is drawn/The curse it is cast/The slow one now/Will later be fast/ As the present now/Will later be past/The order is/Rapidly fadin'./And the first one now/Will later be last/For the times they are a-changin'..- Bob Dylan

by thebaddancingraysfan on Sep 9, 2008 4:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

Might as well start the GDT.

Cause this:

Iwamura 2B
Johnson LF
Pena 1B
Floyd DH
Aybar 3B
Hinske RF
Navarro C
Gross CF
Bartlett SS

needs to be discussed.

by Vin on Sep 9, 2008 3:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

Wowsers

At least we are playing in a child’s cruel nightmare of a baseball park. Dan should be able to hold down Left but the alleys and center are pretty deep. I hope Gross brought his Flyers.

Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't matter, and those who matter don't mind.

by Sandy Kazmir on Sep 9, 2008 4:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

That's a piss poor line-up

Where is Fernando Perez? I was hoping to see him play. I was not able to catch any of the games while I was in Phoenix.

The line it is drawn/The curse it is cast/The slow one now/Will later be fast/ As the present now/Will later be past/The order is/Rapidly fadin'./And the first one now/Will later be last/For the times they are a-changin'..- Bob Dylan

by thebaddancingraysfan on Sep 9, 2008 4:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

Perez should be in the OF,

Gross should play RF… and put Ske in LF. Why? there is not that much ground in that joke of a ballpark. They should have him play deep third, or LF as they call it at Fenway. Put Johnson at the DH if you must. You can maintain speed on base baths.

The line it is drawn/The curse it is cast/The slow one now/Will later be fast/ As the present now/Will later be past/The order is/Rapidly fadin'./And the first one now/Will later be last/For the times they are a-changin'..- Bob Dylan

by thebaddancingraysfan on Sep 9, 2008 4:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

So what is his .gif going to be when he sprays the monster tonight

I recommend this tasteful pic

Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't matter, and those who matter don't mind.

by Sandy Kazmir on Sep 9, 2008 4:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

way to set this blog back...

good job. But, what is the point of this gif? Seriously. He sprays the wall and we show a banjo playing man? Say what now?

The line it is drawn/The curse it is cast/The slow one now/Will later be fast/ As the present now/Will later be past/The order is/Rapidly fadin'./And the first one now/Will later be last/For the times they are a-changin'..- Bob Dylan

by thebaddancingraysfan on Sep 9, 2008 4:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

danjo = banjo

That big smile is going to be all over my face tonight when we show some patience and expose a far east fraud.

Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't matter, and those who matter don't mind.

by Sandy Kazmir on Sep 9, 2008 4:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

I hope I am wrong. I really do.

But I don’t think I will be wrong is the scary thought.

The line it is drawn/The curse it is cast/The slow one now/Will later be fast/ As the present now/Will later be past/The order is/Rapidly fadin'./And the first one now/Will later be last/For the times they are a-changin'..- Bob Dylan

by thebaddancingraysfan on Sep 9, 2008 4:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

wrong about what?

Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't matter, and those who matter don't mind.

by Sandy Kazmir on Sep 9, 2008 4:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

Johnson Sucking at this level.

I think I am going to be right. But, then again i don’t work in baseball for a living.

The line it is drawn/The curse it is cast/The slow one now/Will later be fast/ As the present now/Will later be past/The order is/Rapidly fadin'./And the first one now/Will later be last/For the times they are a-changin'..- Bob Dylan

by thebaddancingraysfan on Sep 9, 2008 4:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

If he doesn't K looking once tonight I will call it a success

Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't matter, and those who matter don't mind.

by Sandy Kazmir on Sep 9, 2008 4:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

No matter what, I just want to boys in blue to win tonight.

And tomorrow.

The line it is drawn/The curse it is cast/The slow one now/Will later be fast/ As the present now/Will later be past/The order is/Rapidly fadin'./And the first one now/Will later be last/For the times they are a-changin'..- Bob Dylan

by thebaddancingraysfan on Sep 9, 2008 4:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

I know the following are ex Dodgers

refresh me how we got them all: Tiffany, Guzman, Jackson, Navarro, Pedroza

by sternfan1 on Sep 9, 2008 3:59 PM EDT reply actions  

Some future all-stars in that list I'll tell you what

Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't matter, and those who matter don't mind.

by Sandy Kazmir on Sep 9, 2008 4:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

Lugo!

The line it is drawn/The curse it is cast/The slow one now/Will later be fast/ As the present now/Will later be past/The order is/Rapidly fadin'./And the first one now/Will later be last/For the times they are a-changin'..- Bob Dylan

by thebaddancingraysfan on Sep 9, 2008 4:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

Baez, Carter, Hall, Hendrickson

Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't matter, and those who matter don't mind.

by Sandy Kazmir on Sep 9, 2008 4:01 PM EDT reply actions  

nice

Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't matter, and those who matter don't mind.

by Sandy Kazmir on Sep 9, 2008 4:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

Of all i feel bad for Tiffany

i was reading about him after the trade, whay a future, although RaysBB still has him as a yop prospect at VB

by sternfan1 on Sep 9, 2008 4:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

Maddon needs to be on his A game tonight

He needs to make sure our lefties do not hit against lefties. He needs to truly micromanage this. We cannot let our righties rot on the bench if a lefty comes in to pitch.

by matthan on Sep 9, 2008 4:05 PM EDT reply actions  

He needs to truly micromanage this.

There’s been too much of this lately if you ask me.

Unless half the team suddenly thinks they’re good at bunting.

by Vin on Sep 9, 2008 4:19 PM EDT reply actions  

I'm pretty sure I saw Jim Abbott in the OF one game. I think I might take him today over this.

Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't matter, and those who matter don't mind.

by Sandy Kazmir on Sep 9, 2008 4:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

It was only for an inning

But last year, Houston ran a Lee-Berkman-Wigginton outfield, with Berkman in center.

Vogt early, Vogt often.

by Brickhaus on Sep 9, 2008 4:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

Gross is league-average in center

But the other two are UGLY. Abreu/Hideki is a worse fielding corner duo. And I can’t really think of another that’s worse off the top of my head.

by Sky Kalkman on Sep 9, 2008 5:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

Does anyone else wish Hernandez went by Miguel

Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't matter, and those who matter don't mind.

by Sandy Kazmir on Sep 9, 2008 5:44 PM EDT reply actions  

I can't remember us having a Miggy

I think that’s what’s been holding us back.

Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't matter, and those who matter don't mind.

by Sandy Kazmir on Sep 9, 2008 5:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

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