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Post-Balfour Payroll Update

 

Player 2009
Crawford 8.25
Pena 8
Burrell 7
Kazmir 6
Percival 4
Bradford 3.5
Iwamura 3.25
Wheeler 3.2
Shields 1.5
Balfour 1.4
Nelson 1.3
Gross 1.25
Kapler 1
Price 0.75
Longoria 0.55
Niemann 0.4
Bartlett 0.4
Navarro 0.4
Upton 0.4
Sonny 0.4
Howell 0.4
Riggans 0.4
Aybar 0.4
Zobrist 0.4
Rodriguez 0.4

54.95 mil with three contracts left to re-work. I suppose you could add 250k if you think Cormier makes the roster as well.

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I thought PatBat was making 7M this year

Anyway, as I was lying in the puddle, I think I may have found a way for us to get Bonds and Griffey, and we wouldn't have to give up that much.

~George Costanza~

by Sandy Kazmir on Jan 17, 2009 10:52 AM EST reply actions  

I'm pretty sure Cormier signed a major league contract

In which case he’s owed the $625k whether or not he makes the team.

Vogt early, Vogt often.

by Brickhaus on Jan 17, 2009 12:27 PM EST reply actions  

Bump

Vogt early, Vogt often.

by Brickhaus on Jan 19, 2009 4:43 AM EST up reply actions  

My concern is the future

I see where Andrew has stated $60 ,million will lose money

How do we expect to keep Sonny, Garza, BJ?

To keep this team’s core players, we’re looking at a $90-100 million dollar payroll

What do we need to draw to do that?

by Raymondo on Jan 17, 2009 1:38 PM EST reply actions  

That 60 mil is with the current attendance figures.

As the season ticket base continues to grow, and attendance goes up, revenue will accelerate.

by R.J. Anderson on Jan 17, 2009 2:44 PM EST up reply actions  

Plus

At least on the pitching side, there’s enough of a pipeline that you can break up some of the core.

Vogt early, Vogt often.

by Brickhaus on Jan 17, 2009 2:56 PM EST up reply actions  

But that means only getting rid of the high priced pitchers

And that means good riddance to Percy, but there really aren’t any high-priced pitchers in ’09, are there?

The truth will set you free, but first it will piss you off.

by pocket8pin on Jan 17, 2009 5:18 PM EST up reply actions  

Wheeler, Kazmir maybe.

"And you just don't get it, you keep it copacetic..."

by Blicks on Jan 17, 2009 7:00 PM EST up reply actions  

I wonder how much of an increase

the new exclusive deal they have with FSN Florida is… that probably helped with the Rocco buyout and to keep Pat the bat’s fridge full of bud light at least…

'talkin 'bout practice?

by CubFanRaysaddict on Jan 17, 2009 7:34 PM EST up reply actions  

Can the Rays buy a network?

Get a deal like the Sox/Yanks and get their own TV dollars? Pair up with the Lightning and get a real TV powerhouse that they completely control. A true TBSN not like BHSN or Sun Sports or FSN Florida. There is additional money there IF they can buy a network and get the ads.

Joe

by joedobr on Jan 19, 2009 12:20 AM EST reply actions  

Not likely

The overhead would be crippling

by GomesSweetGomes on Jan 19, 2009 11:56 AM EST up reply actions  

Technicalities

I think the actual salary costs of Price and Niemann are higher, including prorated shares of their signing bonuses. Since those bonuses are also paid over their original majors contracts lengths, this is also true from a cash outlay basis. So you should add $933K to Price’s deal, and $640K to Niemann’s.

Still find it hard to believe the Rays (or any other team) would lose money at a $60MM payroll. The take from the Central fund (national media contracts, merchandise, web propertires) should come in between $30-35 MM, and revenue sharing should still be near $30MM at least. That is money forthcoming from the ‘08 season revenue, where revenue ran equal to or above ’07. The Rays RS take will probably drop a bit given their larger than average attendance increase, eimination of free parking, etc. But that’s still likely over $60MM total before a ticket is sold, with all local revenue to follow – revenue sharing receipts being the amount paid to a club over the amount they contributed to the fund.

I go through this discussion every time this issue comes up. Not trying to criticize the org – they are far from alone in making such statements. And I’m sure their concern for team finances entering this season are justifiable. Unfortunate the economy has tanked just as the Rays were primed for a possible attendance boom coming off the WS season. Of course, they could still see significant improvement there, and I’ve got to believe they’ve got some upside on the local broadcast revenue front assuming more fans could be watching. But being a private co. they don’t have to open their books, so who can prove whether they’re tap dancing on this projection? But it doesn’t add up to me – many outside analysts expected them to be highly profitable last season before their competitive emergence, attendance bump, etc. The payroll increase surely cuts into that without continued revenue expansion, but I don’t see the numbers turning so.

Any news on season ticket sales trends? That will be a big indicator for 2009, for all league clubs.

by nyyfaninlaaland on Jan 19, 2009 3:43 PM EST reply actions   1 recs

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