Arbitration--where the players "always win," right?

by walkoffwalk on Jan 29, 2009 11:36 AM EST

I don't know if any of you are familiar with this blog, but it is very good. One of the contributors is Rick Karcher, a former minor league baseball player in the Braves system, and one of my former professors.

Over the years, the teams have won 58% of the cases (279-205). The last time that the players exceeded .500 was 1996 (players won 7 of 10 hearings).

Year - Cases Filed - Cases Settled - Number of Hearings

2005 - 89 - 86 - 3 (Teams won 2 out of the 3)
2006 - 100 - 94 - 6 (Teams won 4 out of the 6)
2007 - 106 - 99 - 7 (Teams won 4 out of the 7)
2008 - 110 - 102 - 8 (Teams won 6 out of the 8)

http://sports-law.blogspot.com/2009/01/clarification-of-my-last-post-on-salary.html

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Players lose because they overvalue themselves

Like when Josh Paul wanted like 750k and ended up with around 500k

by Tommy Rancel on Jan 29, 2009 1:48 PM EST reply actions

FTFY

Like when Josh Paul wanted 750k and ended up ~~with around 500k~~ out of baseball.

by kericr on Jan 29, 2009 4:32 PM EST up reply actions

zong.

Anyway, as I was lying in the puddle, I think I may have found a way for us to get Bonds and Griffey, and we wouldn't have to give up that much.

~George Costanza~

by Sandy Kazmir on Jan 29, 2009 4:49 PM EST up reply actions

haha.

by walkoffwalk on Jan 29, 2009 5:53 PM EST up reply actions

But that's kind of the point

It’s more about getting to an acceptable but aggressive midpoint, not the choice between the 2 numbers. Over 80% of cases where numbers are exchanged are settled – that’s where the action is.

Who wins when it gets to a hearing is irrelevant. Most players will go in saying they’re winning either way.

Arb is where the big raises are now – FA is where a few big names score, but most players go to die. How many guys exchanging numbers or setling prior to exchanging got raises of over a mil? At least 50. How many FA’s have so far – about 20.

by nyyfaninlaaland on Jan 30, 2009 12:29 PM EST up reply actions