Arbitration--where the players "always win," right?
by walkoffwalk on Jan 29, 2009 11:36 AM EST
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I don't know if any of you are familiar with this blog, but it is very good. One of the contributors is Rick Karcher, a former minor league baseball player in the Braves system, and one of my former professors.
Over the years, the teams have won 58% of the cases (279-205). The last time that the players exceeded .500 was 1996 (players won 7 of 10 hearings).
Year - Cases Filed - Cases Settled - Number of Hearings
2005 - 89 - 86 - 3 (Teams won 2 out of the 3)
2006 - 100 - 94 - 6 (Teams won 4 out of the 6)
2007 - 106 - 99 - 7 (Teams won 4 out of the 7)
2008 - 110 - 102 - 8 (Teams won 6 out of the 8)
http://sports-law.blogspot.com/2009/01/clarification-of-my-last-post-on-salary.html
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Players lose because they overvalue themselves
Like when Josh Paul wanted like 750k and ended up with around 500k
by Tommy Rancel on Jan 29, 2009 1:48 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
FTFY
Like when Josh Paul wanted 750k and ended up with around 500k out of baseball.
by kericr on Jan 29, 2009 4:32 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
zong.
Anyway, as I was lying in the puddle, I think I may have found a way for us to get Bonds and Griffey, and we wouldn't have to give up that much.
~George Costanza~
by Sandy Kazmir on Jan 29, 2009 4:49 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
But that's kind of the point
It’s more about getting to an acceptable but aggressive midpoint, not the choice between the 2 numbers. Over 80% of cases where numbers are exchanged are settled – that’s where the action is.
Who wins when it gets to a hearing is irrelevant. Most players will go in saying they’re winning either way.
Arb is where the big raises are now – FA is where a few big names score, but most players go to die. How many guys exchanging numbers or setling prior to exchanging got raises of over a mil? At least 50. How many FA’s have so far – about 20.
by nyyfaninlaaland on Jan 30, 2009 12:29 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
To my mind, here is where Friedmann has shined
Aggressively locking up guys early has saved the Rays untold millions going forward. Amazes me that more small market teams haven’t been more aggressive in this regard. Gotta figure they’re trying same on BJ, and thinking about Garza.
by nyyfaninlaaland on Jan 30, 2009 12:33 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Here's another tidbit: Players who tend to lose arbitration tend to leave the team quickly.
Lay off the stadium, Iwamura
by Orlando Rays on Feb 5, 2009 2:05 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
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