(Sorta) OT: The book thread
With so many books written about baseball(and sports, and anything really), I was wondering if anyone here had any recommendations or anything.
For me, obviously Moneyball is a must-read. I also enjoyed Buster Olney's "The Last Night Of The Yankee Dynasty," and even though it was basically just a history of that 2001 team, it held my interest. I usually like John Feinstein's writing(basketball and football mainly) so I was disappointed when I found "Living On The Black" boring. It's a book about Mike Mussina and Tom Glavine through the 2007 season, but nothing really interesting happened, and the book doesn't take you inside baseball like "Next Man Up" took you inside football. "Dollar Sign On The Muscle" is a book about the history and methods of baseballs scouting. It was originally published in 1984 so it's dated and a little bit hard to find, but I liked it.
Those are the few of a bunch I've read. On my list of books I want to read: "Beyond Belief" which is about Josh Hamilton, who's more or less my favorite non-Ray. I have a feeling I've read a lot of the story before, but I still want to check it out.
As for books about other sports, I liked Michael Lewis' book about Michael Oher(Offensive lineman at Ole Miss) and football. It's not as good or nearly as ground-breaking as Moneyball, but a decent read. Feinstein's "A March To Madness" is a good, albeit dated, look at ACC basketball.
Anyone got any books they'd recommend?
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by R.J. Anderson on
Jan 4, 2009 10:48 AM EST
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if you are a fantasy baseball player then I would strongly recommend Fantasyland.
It is a great book, probably even for non-fantasy players.
Also “Fair Ball” by Bob Costas is great as well.
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by PriceMultiCyYoungs on
Jan 4, 2009 11:11 AM EST
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I think there are more excellent baseball books than on any other sport.
If you are interested in early baseball, two books I liked are:
“Crazy 08” by Cait Murphy (about the 1908 baseball season)
“Ed Delahanty& the Emerald Age of Baseball” by Jerrold Casway (It should dispel some myths about the purity of early baseball.)
I also liked “Victory Faust: How a Rube Saved McGraw’s Giants” by Gabriel Schechter. It is the story of a remarkable character but is even more interesting for the picture of McGraw’s era.
There are numerous terrific biographies of great stars such as Babe Ruth, Ted Williams, Joe DiMaggio, Lou Gehrig and Sandy Koufax among others. Lesser players such as Eldon Auker and Bill Werber wrote memoirs when they were each in his 90s about their experience in the major leagues during the 1930s. If he is alive, Werber is over 100 now while Auker died in 2006 at age 96.
If you haven’t read the classic “The Glory of their Times” by Lawrence Ritter, I think you should. Based on interviews with early 20th century players, it is more than just nostalgia. And a modern classic I am sure will be “The Soul of Baseball” by Posnanski about his one year travels with Buck O’Neill. Very moving and also informative.
If you just want some light reading I suggest “Rob Neyer’s Big Book of Baseball Legends” in which he tries to track down the legitimacy of many famous stories in baseball history. Great fun.
And I also think a required reading for anyone trying to understand the history of baseball statistics (from the 19th century to the present) and the continuing arguments over them is Alan Schwarz’s “The Numbers Game”. Very readable and puts to rout any remaining doubters of the integral relationship between statistical thinking and baseball history.
by bobr on
Jan 4, 2009 4:12 PM EST
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Pistol Pete.
Yeah, it’s about basketball, but man, that is the best sports novel I’ve ever read, by a landslide. A biography of the Pistol’s life. It’s absolutely a must-read.
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by Taylor H on
Jan 4, 2009 6:04 PM EST
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Great topic.
I consider “Ball Four” a must read. Jim Bouton’s diary-like book about his 1969 year with the Seattle Pilots. Also discusses his early career with the Yankees. It went against the baseball establishment at the time and still holds up very well.
“The Bronx Zoo” is Sparky Lyle’s attempt at the same type of style and is also a pretty good read. Took a little longer for me to get into.
I always recommend “The Bad Guys Won” to people around my age (mid-20s). Very entertaining book on the 1986 Mets. I’ve heard the author’s book on the Dallas Cowboys “Boys will be Boys” is also very good.
Last one that comes to mind is “The Last Ticket Out”. It’s about Darryl Strawberry’s 1980 high school team. Interesting stuff.
I also enjoy looking at Rob Neyer’s “The Big Book of Baseball Lineups” every so often.
Then there are the books that I hold above anything written before or since. I know RJ pointed out a lot of SABR friendly stuff but nothing can touch the Bill James stuff IMO. The early Baseball Abstracts are still pretty expensive (1977-1981) but the later (1982 – 1988) ones are pretty affordable on eBay. It’s amazing to pick one up and see that James pointed things out twenty years ago that make a whole lot of sense and are still not known and accepted by 90% of baseball fans.
I think the abstracts are pretty well known but his other books from the late 80s and early 90s are equally as good. “The Great Amercian Stat Books” from 1987 and 1988 are fantastic, each includes several essays that hold up extremely well. His “The Baseball Book” from 1990 – 1992 are also enjoyable, especially if you grew up in that era.
My new favorites are the Baseball Scorecards from 1991 and 1992 (the year may be slightly off). I’m not even sure if they are Bill James books, but they are from his group of authors and are very interesting. The points of interest are way outdated (does anyone care about what umpire called the fewest strikeouts in 1991?) but the information presented is still fascinating.
I’m sure I’m missing several good ones and will probably add some later.
by tallyray on
Jan 4, 2009 6:05 PM EST
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Three Nights in August
by Bissinger who also wrote Friday Night Lights… takes an inside look on a three game series between the Cardinals and Cubs in I believe 04 but I can’t exactly remember… It’s a great book as it gives you a manager’s perspective and La Russa gave Bissinger unlimited access to the team for the entire season
by nolesblogger on
Jan 5, 2009 12:36 AM EST
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I hated this book.
But, I agree it had some terrific insights and details and is worth reading. My distaste for it is due to its subtext. The book continually pressed the message that statistical analysis is nonsense and that sabermetric approaches ignore the reality of what happens on the field, in the dugout and in the clubhouse.
He never says this. In fact, part of my objection is that he never addresses the issue directly. Rather, he does it by implication and insinuation. This ulterior agenda made reading the book very irritating. But again, that is no reason to ignore it as, despite some rather histrionic melodramatic writing, it does have a lot of excellent material. As I recall, he is pretty rough on Drew and Kerry Robinson, but that sort of candor is interesting and it is not unimportant to read what a manager thinks about his players attitudes.
by bobr on
Jan 5, 2009 8:25 AM EST
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Three books
The New Bill James Historical Baseball Abstract – An absolute must read. Some people here might be past it in some respects, as James was on the whole win shares thing which is already somewhat outdated, but it just contains a ton of information. The Neyer/James Guide to Pitchers also falls along the same lines.
A Well-Paid Slave by Brad Snyder – probably the best baseball book I’ve read, although that’s probably pretty ideosynchratic. Very well-written book about the Curt Flood case.
One book that isn’t the best read in the world but is an interesting take on a part of the game that doesn’t get a ton of attention is “The Hidden Language of Baseball” by Paul Dickson. The book is about the development of baseball signs and sign stealing.
Moneyball’s already been mentioned, but I’m of the mind that just about anything Michael Lewis writes is worth reading, as long as you understand that you shouldn’t take any of it as gospel.
In non-baseball books, I’m currently reading Sound and Fury, about the relationship between Muhammad Ali and Howard Cosell.
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by Brickhaus on
Jan 5, 2009 1:24 PM EST
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Many years ago
I read a book by Daniel Okrent, “Nine Innings”. As I recall (and I may be misremembering), it took an ordinary mid-season game between the Brewers and another team (Orioles?) and narrated it practically pitch for pitch, examining the strategies of the pitcher and catcher, the approaches of the batter and the like. I think each half inning was either followed (or perhaps incorporated within the description) by an essay on some individual involved with the game-the owner, manager, a player, an umpire and so on. I found it a wonderful read.
by bobr on
Jan 5, 2009 4:20 PM EST
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I'm in the middle of "The Last Best League"
Its about the Cape league, a few seasons back. So far. so good.
“Aces: The Last Season on the Mound with the Oakland A’s Big ThreeTim Hudson, Mark Mulder, and Barry Zito” is a favorite of mine too.
And I really enjoyed “The Baseball Economist” but I’m a little bit of a numbers junkie.
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by Katie on
Jan 5, 2009 6:33 PM EST
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The Baseball Economist
I struggled with this one. I majored in ECN in college so it really felt like an introductory textbook. I think for that reason I just didn’t like it all that much. I had also reread BBTN just before so that may have been part of it.
The Last Best Season is a very good. I really enjoyed trhat.
by rglass44 on
Jan 5, 2009 7:12 PM EST
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I'm getting ready to re-take a college level econ course this semester
so I read The Baseball Economist just to drill into my head why I actually have to pass the class this time as a sports management student. It wasn’t so much a leisure read as it was to prove a point to myself.
I read Moneyball when it came out, and did my senior econ paper based on it back in high school. Its another favorite of mine.
Theres an Andrew Zimbalist book I read in high school that I really enjoyed but I cannot for the life of me remember the title.
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by Katie on
Jan 5, 2009 7:58 PM EST
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http://www.amazon.com/May-Best-Team-Win-Economics/dp/081579729X/ref=pd_bbs_sr_3?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1231203917&sr=8-3
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by R.J. Anderson on
Jan 5, 2009 8:05 PM EST
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The Baseball Economist is AWESOME!
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by Taylor H on
Jan 6, 2009 11:14 AM EST
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Anyone from Last Best League ever pan out?
I know Jamie D’Antona and Tim Stauffer were the headliners.
by tallyray on
Jan 6, 2009 4:02 PM EST
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"Beyond Belief" is a great book
i read that book in 3 days, i was so into that book, i already knew the story of josh hamilton, but i wanted to know what it was like for him, and i loved that book, i definetly reccomded u read that book.
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Jan 5, 2009 11:01 PM EST
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