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" Willy Aybar (another switch-hitter who can fake a few infield positions)."

by BossmanJunior333 on Jan 5, 2009 5:21 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Not that this is at all likely

but since we signed Burrell for 2/16 would you be ok if we signed Abreu for 1 year and 8 mil to play RF?

Defense would be an issue, but it seems within our budget and this lineup looks good enough to almost make me ok with Abreu’s defense…

1- Crawford
2- Abreu
3- Upton
4- Pena
5- Longoria
6- Burrell
7- Navi
8- Aki
9- Bartlett

by Rays4242 on Jan 5, 2009 5:22 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

only reason I ask is because Burrell's contract is so reasonable

and trading Gross would make our budget look even better

by Rays4242 on Jan 5, 2009 5:23 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Abreu was a ~1 WAR player last year.

Gross was 2.1.

Defense is 50% of a player’s game. If that 50% is almost as bad as the other 50% is good, that player is pretty meh.

by R.J. Anderson on Jan 5, 2009 5:29 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Hardly

If defense is 50% of a player’s value, then the calculation is wrong.

Vogt early, Vogt often.

by Brickhaus on Jan 5, 2009 5:31 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Let's see.

Batting
Replacement

—-
Fielding
Positional

Yeah, what am I thinking.

by R.J. Anderson on Jan 5, 2009 5:33 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Huh

What you wrote above isn’t exactly clear, but then again, neither is what I wrote. There are two halves to winning – scoring runs and preventing runs. Scoring runs = Batting. Preventing runs = Fielding + Pitching. Thus, batting has to have a greater effect (overall) than fielding, unless you completely ignore the pitching part of the equation.

Vogt early, Vogt often.

by Brickhaus on Jan 5, 2009 5:37 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Oh, okay I see what you thought I meant.

You’re absolutely right. I think 35% of the prevention is pitching (or thereabouts) I’m talking about in player value.

by R.J. Anderson on Jan 5, 2009 5:38 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Gotcha

Vogt early, Vogt often.

by Brickhaus on Jan 5, 2009 5:40 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

one thing though

wasnt Abreu statistically a much better fielder (still below average) in 2007? Or was he pretty much the same?

I know his arm is not his problem, hes always had a pretty good one from what I remember.

by Rays4242 on Jan 5, 2009 7:05 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

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