Lineup, Rotation, mid-season, 2009?

by liquidmuse3 on Jan 7, 2009 8:02 PM EST Comment 22 comments

1)Upton CF R

2)Crawford LF L

3)Longoria 3B R

4)Pena 1B L

5)Burrell DH R

6)Joyce RF L

7)Navarro C S

8)Bartlett SS R

9)Iwamura 2B L

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1)Shields R

2)Kazmir L

3)Garza R

4)Price L

5)Niemann R

Perfect L-R, all around, which Joe likes.

Yeah, leading off Upton might "waste" 30 HR, but with Bartlett & Iwamura, maybe not.

I think Sonnenstine will be a great reliever, & Niemann potentially a good starter, which is better than a "good" starter in Andy & a "probably ok" reliever with Jeff.

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Andy is better than Dice-K. Just sayin'.

Brad Ziegler had a scoreless inning streak. Brad Ziegler had not met BJ Upton.

by P Brady on Jan 7, 2009 9:08 PM EST reply actions 0 recs

Highly unlikely.

Tools Whore

Sign Bonds!

by Tyler on Jan 7, 2009 10:27 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

highly possible

Sonny is amazing and Dice-k is extremely lucky that he didnt give up that many hits/walks with so many runners on base

TB Rays in 09!!!

by RaysOfHope on Jan 7, 2009 10:45 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Wtf, 5 man fuckin rotation, and you forgot mister February...

"Don't test the cannon"! screamed Matt Garza after b.J. Upton throws another failed attempt of scoring by a tag-up!

by raysbball on Jan 10, 2009 9:11 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs

which is better than a "good" starter in Andy & a "probably ok" reliever with Jeff.

Anyway, as I was lying in the puddle, I think I may have found a way for us to get Bonds and Griffey, and we wouldn't have to give up that much.

~George Costanza~

by Sandy Kazmir on Jan 7, 2009 9:09 PM EST reply actions 0 recs

Can anyone name a pitcher.

Who went from being “okay” as a reliever to “good” as a starter?

by R.J. Anderson on Jan 7, 2009 9:34 PM EST reply actions 0 recs

damn

I was gonna say Derek Lowe but he was a good reliever?

Can Dempster count? He went from starter to closer back to starter

Evan Longoria and David Price - the fight for my heart

by joeybw on Jan 7, 2009 9:38 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Lowe was good as a reliever, but in comparison to his starting days about the same.

Dempster went from average starter to average/decent reliever to good starter. Perhaps.

by R.J. Anderson on Jan 7, 2009 9:42 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Well the lineup is what I suggested so I approve of this!

Evan Longoria and David Price - the fight for my heart

by joeybw on Jan 7, 2009 9:36 PM EST reply actions 0 recs

Sonny is going to be a starter until he proves otherwise

or unless they decide to trade him if they think that Wade Davis is ready enough to take over his spot.

TB Rays in 09!!!

by RaysOfHope on Jan 7, 2009 10:19 PM EST reply actions 0 recs

I think that Sonny will be one of the least likely traded

It makes sense to keep him around. Guys like Kazmir will become pricier and will become out of the Rays’ price range. I think the most logical thing to do is to keep a guy like Sonny around because he will be so solid, and likely for a much more reasonable price.

Blake
USF--Class of '09

by usfraysfan on Jan 8, 2009 12:24 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Hopefully arb hearings take ERA into account.

by R.J. Anderson on Jan 8, 2009 1:24 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Agreed

We’re more likely to trade a pitcher who the market values properly. I’d venture that Garza is the most likely to get traded, actually.

Vogt early, Vogt often.

by Brickhaus on Jan 9, 2009 2:47 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

i hope not

i could see garza signing a shields type of deal after this year

TB Rays in 09!!!

by RaysOfHope on Jan 10, 2009 1:30 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs

If Joyce doesnt make the team out of spring training

does anyone think there is a chance they give Aybar or Nando a chance to play every day? I know everyone keeps talking about a Gross platoon, but personally Id like to see one of those guys get a shot everyday for a month or two, or how ever long it takes Joyce.

by BossmanJunior333 on Jan 8, 2009 2:53 AM EST reply actions 0 recs

If Joyce doesnt make the team

which will sadden me, I would think Nando will play the lefties…..I can only hope he platoons with Aybar instead of Gross

Evan Longoria and David Price - the fight for my heart

by joeybw on Jan 8, 2009 11:24 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs

I don't understand why so many people are skeptical of Joyce being an opening day starter.

He has defensive value, gets on base, and has good pop in his bat.

by twenty5psi on Jan 8, 2009 3:06 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Because Gross is unlikely to be traded

And Gross makes Joyce redundant.

Vogt early, Vogt often.

by Brickhaus on Jan 9, 2009 2:48 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

fer sandy, & etc...

I can accept Sonnanstine being a good starter, prob. even a #3…& what he did against the Red Sox last year was brilliant. That said, if Niemann’s the starter I think he’ll be, he can be occasionally dominant, & won’t get blown up the way Andy sometimes does. & I could be really, really wrong about that ;o) . I’m just not sure how good a reliever Jeff’ll be. Probably dominant(ha).

As for a 1st year platoon—-

1)Nando RF
2)Crawford LF
3)Upton CF
4)Pena 1B
5)Longo 3B
6)Burrell DH
7)Navi C
8)Bartlett SS
9)Aki 2B

?(!)

by liquidmuse3 on Jan 8, 2009 12:26 PM EST reply actions 0 recs

I guess I just don't see it out of Niemann

You may have had more of a chance to watch him pitch, as my viewings have been limited, but going off the numbers and occasional glimpse I don’t see much. He could be a solid workhorse as a long reliever/spot starter or a #4/5 on another team, but until we see what he can do more extensively we (myself included) are just flapping gums as we are wan to do in the offseason. Admittedly, I saw Sonny as a #4/5 guy coming into 07 and he has surprised me (joyously) to this point. If we could get the same from Niemann then great, but to this point I think it is rather unrealistic.

Anyway, as I was lying in the puddle, I think I may have found a way for us to get Bonds and Griffey, and we wouldn't have to give up that much.

~George Costanza~

by Sandy Kazmir on Jan 8, 2009 12:45 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

Rauch, Davis, Johnson

all got going around 25.

by StoneCrab on Jan 8, 2009 11:20 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs

I think Joyce & Price make it out of ST

It was immaterial last year with Longoria, sending him down. Maybe it pissed him off more, made him more willing to work, blahblahblah. But I believe there’ll be a platoon between Joyce & Nando in RF to start the year.

by liquidmuse3 on Jan 9, 2009 12:30 PM EST reply actions 0 recs