Sonnanstine vs. Radke At Age 25
by Tommy Rancel on Jan 8, 2009 1:27 PM EST
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Hat Tip to Brickhaus for bringing this comparison to my attention.
Much like our own Andy Sonnanstine, Brad Radke wasn't blessed with "stuff", but he made a good career out of being a smart pitcher. I took a quick look at the numbers for Sonnanstine's first full season and Radke at the same age. Here are the results
| Age 25 | Sonnanstine | Radke |
| FIP | 3.91 | 3.90 |
| ERA | 4.38 | 4.30 |
| K/9 | 5.77 | 6.15 |
| BB/9 | 1.81 | 1.72 |
| K/BB | 3.35 | 3.40 |
| HR/9 | 0.98 | 0.97 |
| H/9 | 9.90 | 10.08 |
| BAA | 0.280 | 0.283 |
| WHIP | 1.29 | 1.31 |
It is amazing to see how the two "finese righties" are alike. From age 24-31, Radke had an average FIP of 3.96. That's not super star level, but it's very good for a pitcher with pedestrian stuff. Hopefully, we can expect the same from Sonnanstine.
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And they both made 32 starts so the numbers are pretty accurate.
Difference is about 20 innings
by Tommy Rancel on Jan 8, 2009 1:31 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
wow
That’s awesome.
Nice job Brick and RJ.
by rglass44 on Jan 8, 2009 1:36 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
This is Brick's comp, I had nothing to do with it.
by R.J. Anderson on Jan 8, 2009 1:43 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
and Tommy posted it.
Top Josh Paul Pornos- Big Navi Stroking, 2pitchers1cup, BJ to the Balls, Riggans Your Thingans
by SRQman on Jan 8, 2009 1:44 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
God I am an idiot.
Sorry Tommy. Nice job Brick and Tommy. RJ linked me and said “posted,” so I assumed it was him. My bad.
by rglass44 on Jan 8, 2009 1:48 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
Almost as good as RJ's
Jesus, I’m dumb.
Rec’d
by Tommy Rancel on Jan 8, 2009 2:01 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah Brick mentioned this yesterday
I would love having a Radke type as our 4-5 since Brad was 1-3 on their staff depending on the season.
Anyway, as I was lying in the puddle, I think I may have found a way for us to get Bonds and Griffey, and we wouldn't have to give up that much.
~George Costanza~
by Sandy Kazmir on Jan 8, 2009 1:39 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Wow
Even I had no idea they were THAT similar.
Nice work Tommy.
Vogt early, Vogt often.
by Brickhaus on Jan 8, 2009 2:00 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
It's a good comp
I bet you could find similar comparisons for a lot of players in baseball.
by Erik Hahmann on Jan 8, 2009 2:42 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
I had always thought Shields was similar to Radke
Average fastball, terrific command, godly changeup.
Hello.
by killa3312 on Jan 8, 2009 3:04 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Shields fastball tends to vary.
I remember seeing his four-seam around 93-95 at some points but seemed to be around 90 by the end of the season.
But yeah, pitchers that don’t walk people, and get decent K-rates tend to be pretty good.
by twenty5psi on Jan 8, 2009 3:17 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Wow. Cool stuff.
Was Radke too hittable?
Beyond the Boxscore // Calling BJ Upton lazy is lazy.
by Sky Kalkman on Jan 8, 2009 6:51 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
great comparision tommy
i think that sonny’s career is going to be very similar to Radke’s now that i think about it, control guy, ground ball pitcher, gives up some long balls, but most of them are solo shots since he doesnt have that many baserunners on.
TB Rays in 09!!!
by RaysOfHope on Jan 9, 2009 12:53 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
FWIW
His late career (for which numbers are available), his FIP was actually higher than his ERA most years, so probably not. If he didn’t tend to have higher than expected BABIPs through his career, I guess it would poke a big hole in my theory on Sonnanstine.
Vogt early, Vogt often.
by Brickhaus on Jan 9, 2009 8:47 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
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