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The Rays were consistently at or near the top of the power rankings all season long, which is something that caused more than a few raised eyebrows. Early in the season, this occurred despite their having a sub-0.500 record! That they surged mid-season and became, at least for a time, a legitimate threat in the East was a modest vindication--but even so, we have a 0.519 W% team as our #2 overall team. Why? We're estimating that a team with the Rays' component stats should score 24 more runs than the Rays did as well as allow a whopping 53 fewer runs. Offensively, the Rays do rate as a below-average "clutchy" team by FanGraphs' clutch measures (-23 runs), which makes up to the offensive shortfall very well. On defense, though, I think they were just unlucky. ERA was very much in line with FIP & tERA, despite the Rays having an extremely good fielding team. Somehow, despite the good fielding, those extra runs were still scoring.

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During a broadcast of one of the playoff games

a productive out stat was given showing most of the playoff teams at or near the top

Wonder if you know where to find this list

by sternfan1 on Oct 12, 2009 4:44 PM EDT reply actions  

ESPN:

http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/stats/productive?tp=team

Rankings by productive out percentage (ProdOuts/Opps):
Red Sox: 30th
Yankees: 26th
Dodgers: 25th
Twins: 16th
Philadelphia: 15th
Angels: 8th
Cardinals: 6th
Rays: 5th
Rockies: 2nd (probably influence by Coors helping hitters put ball in play)
And, the clincher, Nationals: 1st

by Sky Kalkman on Oct 12, 2009 4:51 PM EDT reply actions  

Aah, here is what I was looking for

http://www.hardballtimes.com/main/article/yet-another-productive-outs-article/

If I’m reading those correlations correctly, productive out percentage (not even the counting stat) has a -.476 correlation to W%. That truly is amazingly perfect.

by vivaelpujols on Oct 13, 2009 1:07 AM EDT up reply actions  

Looking at this year's correlation it was only -0.1435

The correlation between Opp and W is .2194. Which makes sense while the correlation between PO and W is only .0023. No idea on the significance and don’t feel like doing it.

Get well soon DM

by Sandy Kazmir on Oct 13, 2009 1:54 AM EDT up reply actions  

On the pitcher side the correlations are

.3355
-.3082
.0395, respectively

A line estimate for the batter side shows -54.00 with a constant of 0 while the same for the pitcher side is 177.

Get well soon DM

by Sandy Kazmir on Oct 13, 2009 2:01 AM EDT up reply actions  

The Nats!!!!

Swav or Die (>'-')> <('-')> <('-'<)
For the lulz

by SRQman on Oct 12, 2009 5:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

THE NATIONALS

ARE GOOD in something- OMG, ITS THE APOCALYPSE.

J.J LOVE SPREADS while RAHEEM MORRIS'S PLAN FOR NFLDOMINECION IS COMING TO AN END.

by 4QB on Oct 12, 2009 7:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think this is flawed big time

You must trim the hits out of the equation

ProductiveOuts/(Opportunity-Hits)

Essentially what you want to be measuring is how often a team hits a ground ball to the pitcher, strikes out, or a lazy pop up that doesn’t do squat. Once you start throwing in hits then things are a bit screwed up because it favors crappy offensive teams. Teams that suck of offense will have more productive outs than good offensive teams because they produce more outs as a % of total ABs than good teams. You need to strip that out.

Can we get robots for umpires and a computer to make in game strategy decisions? I'm sick of inconsistently bad umpiring and Joe's pitiful in game management. Oh and Navi (and BJ) need some PED's. BenZo, Bartlett, and Pena do not.

by matthan on Oct 13, 2009 12:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

Of course it is ridiculous period.

Can we get robots for umpires and a computer to make in game strategy decisions? I'm sick of inconsistently bad umpiring and Joe's pitiful in game management. Oh and Navi (and BJ) need some PED's. BenZo, Bartlett, and Pena do not.

by matthan on Oct 13, 2009 12:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

We were a playoff team that failed to make the postseason

That is a disappointing season. Nothing wrong with analyzing the season and figuring out what went wrong. And if it comes down to luck then that sucks even more. However at the end of the team it is all about championships.

Hearing that we were better than what we finished is a good sign for the future. Nobody wins tropheys for excel championships though…

Can we get robots for umpires and a computer to make in game strategy decisions? I'm sick of inconsistently bad umpiring and Joe's pitiful in game management. Oh and Navi (and BJ) need some PED's. BenZo, Bartlett, and Pena do not.

by matthan on Oct 13, 2009 12:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

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