OTTOTD: The snotgreen sea. The scrotumtightening sea.
by Suttree on Oct 19, 2009 12:35 PM EDT
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Ulysses towers over the rest of Joyce's writings, and in comparison to its noble originality and unique lucidity of thought and style the unfortunate Finnegans Wake is nothing but a formless and dull mass of phony folklore, a cold pudding of a book, a persistent snore in the next room, most aggravating to the insomniac! I am. Moreover, I always detested regional literature full of quaint old-timers and imitated pronunciation. Finnegans Wake's façade disguises a very conventional and drab tenement house, and only the infrequent snatches of heavenly intonations redeem it from utter insipidity. I know I am going to be excommunicated for this pronouncement.
--Vladimir Nabokov, interview 1967
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Where the fuck is everybody.
If the Bucs give up on Josh Johnson after one more game, I’m going to blow up the Ray Jay.
Start preparing for it. We both know it's happening.
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I'm not saying Johnson has been good - you don't rack up a 56% completion rate by accident - the positives outweigh the negatives.
He needs atleast two or three more games to prove he can cut down on the bad decisions and the erratic accuracy. Also, it’d be nice if his defense would give him the ball back after he makes a mistake instead he being pounded into the ground for 8 minutes.
I agree. Johnson has shown enough at times to give you idea of what he can do. Why not give the young'una chance
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He's oozing with talent. Some of his throws have been just fantastic, he's a pocket passer with great mobiltiy, he's mature and hardworking. There's a lot to love.
Trying to squeeze throws between the corner and the safety (or on Sunday’s case, between a linebacker and a safety) is not wise, though. I don’t think they were neccessarily bad reads – maybe the Panthers one because he had a defender in his face – but he’s gotta learn that is not a high percentage throw. I’m not sure the offense has been designed to help him, though. Where in Christ is the shotgun? You’ve got a mobile quarterback – spread the field, give him a little extra time to read the defense, run more draws and screens. On the flip side, we seem to run WR screens awfully well – mad props to our wide receivers’ blocking and Sammie’s niftyness.
Also, thank Christ Jeremy Stevens is seeing less time. There isn’t a more useless player in the NFL. Putting him on the field is inviting the other team to blitz. If he’s in pass protection, he’s a complete liabiltiy, and he’s so inconsistent as a receiver he’s not a threat.
His throw to Winslow was pretty ridiculous.
by R.J. Anderson on Oct 19, 2009 1:16 PM EDT up reply actions
Word. He's killed on crossing routes, and the Clayton scramble-first down throw was superb.
But, sometimes his mechanics act up – I’m not sure if it’s his footwork or just how he holds the ball – and you get throws like the complete miss to Sammie that would have kept the drive alive.
Are the fumbles more of the OL's fault for allowing pressure too quickly, or Johnson being willy-dilly with the ball?
by R.J. Anderson on Oct 19, 2009 1:22 PM EDT up reply actions
The end of the game was predictable, practically preordained.
Really, you don’t want Josh to toss the ball up like that, but he was immediately under duress and it was a last hurrah anyway.
The fumble he made while scrambling was on him. He’s got to hold the ball tighter – teams are going to see the way he runs on film and start trying to punch the ball out every time he scrambles.
The Derrick Ward fumble was on Ward. Yes, there was penetration (I’d have to re-watch it, but I think it was more of a scheme issue than an execution issue), but the toss itself was fine – Ward has to hang on.
Tomorrow.
I wanted to put it up today, but I didn’t have time to do any type of break down last night. I’ll probably take a look at the last Panthers’ drive, set up the blog and post it tomorrow.
Keri never really got around to giving me the info for the actual .com, so succaneers.com itself probably won’t be up for a little while, but a Succaneers blog will be up tomorrow.
Too busy rimming his sister out.
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right side of the line blocks better on runs. YPC and Avg Run yards are higher per FO.
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I think a huge part of that is pulling Zuttah to that side.
This isn’t backed up by any hard evidence at the moment, but it seemed like we were much more effective running the ball when we started pulling our guards, which is something I think we had gotten away from in the past.
He's been in the shotgun a fair amount and likes to hold the ball too long
but he does some things that make you want to give him a chance to see what he can do with some experience (and good players around him)
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We don't have the coaches tape, so I don't know if we're missing out on some hidden yardage, but if JJ's holding onto the ball too long in the pocket, it's probably because the receivers aren't getting open.
He does need to be more ready to throw it away when he drifts out of the pocket, though.
I can count at least 4 receivers he missed
He missed Graham twice and Caddy once for about 8 yards with no one within 10 yards of them. They were completely open but he never made it there in progressions.
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I'll check it.
Like I said, he hasn’t been perfect, but I think he’s given us a better chance to win than Leftwich, and he deserves to continue playing.
I believe the play I'm referring to was a 3rd down play in the 3rd quarter
The Bucs were out of field goal range (it was 3rd and long) and I doubt Graham would have picked up the first down, but would have definitely put us in FG range. We ended up punting and it rolled to the 4.
Graham would have been on JJ’s blindisde if that helps.
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I suppose your purpose isn't to kill thousands upon thousands then.
by R.J. Anderson on Oct 19, 2009 1:11 PM EDT up reply actions
Are you suggesting that it wasn't rogue communists?
FREE SPEACH is a myth. There is no such thing as 100% free speech. You cannot go into a movie theater and say "FIRE"!…"What? I have freedom of speach!" Bull. Doesnt work that way. Any real lawyer will tell you that.
by Top Gun Numba 1 on Oct 19, 2009 1:18 PM EDT up reply actions
It was a real crime what the nazi's did to him
FREE SPEACH is a myth. There is no such thing as 100% free speech. You cannot go into a movie theater and say "FIRE"!…"What? I have freedom of speach!" Bull. Doesnt work that way. Any real lawyer will tell you that.
by Top Gun Numba 1 on Oct 19, 2009 1:31 PM EDT up reply actions
Not many thousands left
USF outdrew the Bucs this week.
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lol
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Seriously
I might be a bit off, but I believe it was 51k for USF and 44k for the Bucs. The entire 3rd tier was basically empty. 75% of the seats were empty up top. The club section had about 25% of the seats free of anyones butt.
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I'd just leave him in at this point
What do you have to lose?
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"Bucs will be 3-3 heading into London" -- Kericr (2009)
FREE SPEACH is a myth. There is no such thing as 100% free speech. You cannot go into a movie theater and say "FIRE"!…"What? I have freedom of speach!" Bull. Doesnt work that way. Any real lawyer will tell you that.
by Top Gun Numba 1 on Oct 19, 2009 1:06 PM EDT reply actions
They can't make the line against the patriots high enough.
pats (-20) and i would still take the pats
Sounds like fail
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Are the Angels planning on using Kaz this series? (serious question)
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KAZ EVENS THE SERIES
BOOK IT
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Carlos Hernandez sighting in Venezuela
4 IP 3 H (all singles) 2K 0 BB 1 R 5:4 GO/FO
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Who leads the NFL in receiving yards?
Answer: Hines Ward (time to sell before it gets cold boys)
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If Roth continues to throw as much as he is
then I can see Hines keeping up a pretty good pace. I wouldn’t sell unless you were getting good value in return.
He won't
HInesWard Field suffers as the season wears on. Also gets tougher to throw in the northern cities the Steelers play in. Hes traditionally between 900-1100 yards. I suspect he will end around 1100.
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Maybe he met that guy he had the internet fight with and duked it out.
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Working from home...
so I’d prefer to just get my work done.
Alsso, I hate you. I BOMBED this weekend.
So the Bucs are awful
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Needs an app for non-iPhone phones
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If I had an iPhone I feel like I would never use it except when goofing off.
Same with the FG application. Seems cool, and I’m sure some have uses for it, I just don’t see where I’d need it.
by R.J. Anderson on Oct 19, 2009 1:38 PM EDT up reply actions
It's amazing how many apps people pay for whe you can do the exact same thing on the provided internet browser for free
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I wonder if he can keep the .889 babip up over a full season
FREE SPEACH is a myth. There is no such thing as 100% free speech. You cannot go into a movie theater and say "FIRE"!…"What? I have freedom of speach!" Bull. Doesnt work that way. Any real lawyer will tell you that.
by Top Gun Numba 1 on Oct 19, 2009 1:34 PM EDT up reply actions
Is that his AFL BABIP?
I just know he and Starlin Castro (great name) are doing damage in Arizona.
by R.J. Anderson on Oct 19, 2009 1:34 PM EDT up reply actions
AFL BABABABABAABBAIP
FREE SPEACH is a myth. There is no such thing as 100% free speech. You cannot go into a movie theater and say "FIRE"!…"What? I have freedom of speach!" Bull. Doesnt work that way. Any real lawyer will tell you that.
by Top Gun Numba 1 on Oct 19, 2009 1:37 PM EDT up reply actions
OH CHIT Y'ALL, LEAVE YOUR GEDs AT HOME
You are banned from Buc ’Em.
You can browse the blog, but you can’t participate.
second thought, Ive given you enough chances. Banned from Buc’em for not being able to get over past issues.
Lemme guess
BE is falling apart
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It's like I'm psycic or something
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Way to finally man up sister
FREE SPEACH is a myth. There is no such thing as 100% free speech. You cannot go into a movie theater and say "FIRE"!…"What? I have freedom of speach!" Bull. Doesnt work that way. Any real lawyer will tell you that.
by Top Gun Numba 1 on Oct 19, 2009 1:37 PM EDT up reply actions
I want to fuck
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My AT&T contract runs out right at the time this bitch streets.
Can’t wait.
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Compare it to iPhone please.
Main differences?
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I like the iPhone so this tells me nothing.
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It's not overrated as hell
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how it's rated means nothing to me
I have an iPhone and didn’t buy it on hype. Im curious as to whats better or worse.
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If you watched football yesterday, you saw the commercial. It was everywhere. But the phone's been known about since July.
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I thought the commercial was just for Android
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by Top Gun Numba 1 on Oct 19, 2009 1:49 PM EDT up reply actions
No, just the Motorola Driod
The main points can be made for all Android phones (and WinMobile as well)
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Right but this one is covered by Verizon and has improved hardware.
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The phone is called the Droid.
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THESE AREN'T THE DROIDS YOUR LOOKING FOR
Slam dunk
FREE SPEACH is a myth. There is no such thing as 100% free speech. You cannot go into a movie theater and say "FIRE"!…"What? I have freedom of speach!" Bull. Doesnt work that way. Any real lawyer will tell you that.
by Top Gun Numba 1 on Oct 19, 2009 1:51 PM EDT up reply actions
Something tells me this isn't the last time we will here this joke about the Droid
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Someone made a tauntaun reference at the bar the other night and I flipped out with excitement.
Everyone was embarassed to be around me.
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by Top Gun Numba 1 on Oct 19, 2009 1:53 PM EDT up reply actions
I know what someone's getting in the DRB Secret Santa event
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If he's lucky.
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You mother fucker that's the pic i tried to post
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by Top Gun Numba 1 on Oct 19, 2009 1:56 PM EDT up reply actions
Fuck you are mother
http://www.thinkgeek.com/geektoys/plush/bb2e/
FREE SPEACH is a myth. There is no such thing as 100% free speech. You cannot go into a movie theater and say "FIRE"!…"What? I have freedom of speach!" Bull. Doesnt work that way. Any real lawyer will tell you that.
by Top Gun Numba 1 on Oct 19, 2009 1:56 PM EDT up reply actions
That kid is P Brady
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So that's what happens when you slash a tauntaun open
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Was at the Bucs game, so didnt see commercials.
Saw a brief one last night with the “iDont” tag lines
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That's the one.
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Screw that
I want a HTC HD2
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and I don't even have to change carriers :)
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Seriously, im debating between this and what POW posted
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by Top Gun Numba 1 on Oct 19, 2009 1:48 PM EDT up reply actions
Both phones look sexy
The main difference is whether you want to go with Verizon or T-Mobile
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HD2 is on Sprint also
FREE SPEACH is a myth. There is no such thing as 100% free speech. You cannot go into a movie theater and say "FIRE"!…"What? I have freedom of speach!" Bull. Doesnt work that way. Any real lawyer will tell you that.
by Top Gun Numba 1 on Oct 19, 2009 1:50 PM EDT up reply actions
True
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I have Sprint, but if they end my SERO loophole I'll be leaving for another carrier
FREE SPEACH is a myth. There is no such thing as 100% free speech. You cannot go into a movie theater and say "FIRE"!…"What? I have freedom of speach!" Bull. Doesnt work that way. Any real lawyer will tell you that.
by Top Gun Numba 1 on Oct 19, 2009 1:52 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm on T-Mobile
So going to an HD2 is an easy trnsition for me
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Preeeeetyyyyy
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I took on Brees, Owen Daniels and Fitz
Just one of those weeks.
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I got creamed.
Barely scored 60.
Hass, Burleson, DeSean Jackson, Celek, Santana Moss, Caddy, Mendenhall… all really good plays, all shit the bed.
I thought there was one. Guess not.
Is anyone into fantasy basketball?
by R.J. Anderson on Oct 19, 2009 1:49 PM EDT up reply actions
I've never played
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by Top Gun Numba 1 on Oct 19, 2009 1:50 PM EDT up reply actions
Used to love it
Prob too overwhelmed to man a successful team this year
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I hate baseball because it requires too much effort.
I feel like basketball would be the same.
by R.J. Anderson on Oct 19, 2009 1:52 PM EDT up reply actions
Still a ton of effort keeping up with rotations.
by R.J. Anderson on Oct 19, 2009 1:54 PM EDT up reply actions
I think they're talking about hoops.
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Start one with just PER
FREE SPEACH is a myth. There is no such thing as 100% free speech. You cannot go into a movie theater and say "FIRE"!…"What? I have freedom of speach!" Bull. Doesnt work that way. Any real lawyer will tell you that.
by Top Gun Numba 1 on Oct 19, 2009 1:59 PM EDT up reply actions
We did a WAR fantasy league on BTB.
Not sure how awfully I did, but I did have Webb and Hardy, so.
by R.J. Anderson on Oct 19, 2009 1:59 PM EDT up reply actions
JJ's VOA before yesterday was -37% (just above Manchize).
I’m feeling like getting into FO stuff is going to make me feel even worse about the Bucs.
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It will, but at least it matches up with what we are seeing.
How would you feel if the team and players had DVOA’s of anyting positive? Id be confused as hell
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Yeah, but my eyes and gut tell me that JJ is pretty talented.
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And spend the last 5 days talking about how Gaines Adams wasn't a bust and the Bucs were dumb for trading him
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by Top Gun Numba 1 on Oct 19, 2009 1:52 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm interested to see how Marinelli turns him around, if at all.
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Word.
I love FO, but they kept harping on how Gaines Adams was going to be great when to everyone watching the team on a regular basis knew he sucked.
I can't believe Gaines was > Mario in sacks through this point.
by R.J. Anderson on Oct 19, 2009 1:57 PM EDT up reply actions
Mario plays in a division with MUCH better o-lines, and Gaines through his first 2 years had a MUCH better 2ndary getting him coverage sacks
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by Top Gun Numba 1 on Oct 19, 2009 1:58 PM EDT up reply actions
And also Mario played for a team that was pretty constantly losing, so there was not as much reason for the opposition to run pass plays
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by Top Gun Numba 1 on Oct 19, 2009 2:01 PM EDT up reply actions
I haven't really gotten a chance to watch him much, so beyond that I don't really have any input.
He was absolutely disgusting in college and the Bush-Williams debate was the dumbest thing I’d ever heard.
BUT BUSH CAN RUN FAST AGAINST SORRY PAC 10 TEAMS!
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I should know this, but who was DL coach Gaines' first two years
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Rod Marinelli?
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by Top Gun Numba 1 on Oct 19, 2009 2:03 PM EDT up reply actions
Haha, i completely forgot that he actually coached the lions for 2 years
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by Top Gun Numba 1 on Oct 19, 2009 2:04 PM EDT up reply actions
Supposed pass rushing genius Chuck Smith was a strong endorser of Gaines after working with him at a camp
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Gaines is/was essentially a rookie this year
He just started lifting, got off the McDonalds, his first two years were a joke
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Eh, for a position that requires a bigtime motor, that does not tell me much about his hunger
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Why should he be hungry? He got paid (just like Clayton).
Gaines had zero professionalism and that was obvious even in college.
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There are positions where you can better get away with that characteristic
DE is not one of them
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I'm not a defender of Adams, I think the guy was a joke
I thought that back when we drafted him, I thought that back when he played at Clemson. He was a one trick pony in college and that trick doesnt translate to the NFL
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He was hella toolsy, let's not kid ourselves.
He had a nice variety of pass rushing moves, but he could never stop the run, and that and the effort issues were the problems coming out.
Officially now the head of the Lobstein bandwagon.
I don't think he had a variety of pass rushing moves unless you count
run fast to the outside and run faster and further upfield as two separate moves.
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I've seen him use a nice rip before
Perchance, what do you think of Selvie as a prospect?
Personally I wouldn’t touch him until the 3rd.
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Selvie's a first rounder.
Really, really unpolished, but he has the instincts, athletic tools and his game is based off of strength as much as speed. And he’s performed, where as a lot of these flashy defensive ends with impressive sack totals really haven’t performed.
Please excuse my verbage, but are you on fucking crack?
He’s a 6’ 5’’ 245 lb pass rusher who only has a speed move and a good motor.
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As a situational pass rusher, he's great. That's not worth a 1st round pick.
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For the record, Selvie bullrushed 16 out of 19 times against FSU and held FSU to 6 yards on 6 runs directly at him.
He also got double-teamed for 60% of FSU’s plays. He also made 5 splash plays – the top NFL players make 2.5 a game.
This doesn't change that it was against FSU's undersized OLineman and he has trouble putting on weight at 245.
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Except for the fact that it addressed every single criticism aside from 245, which isn't likely to be an issue.
There have been a lot of successful pass rushers at the weight and if he is incapable of putting on extra, he can be moved off the line, ala Demarcus Ware, Shawne Merriman, any number of other “undersized” defensive ends who have become dominant linebackers.
So where all the numbers?
He has an extremely talented class behind him. Where’s the production?
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5 splash plays in 22 snaps.
The elite NFL pass rushers cause 2.5 splash plays ina bout 40 snaps.
5 runs against him at the point of attack, 6 yards.
Double teamed 60% of the time.
19 sacks in two years.
Really? You’re questioning Selvie’s production?
When a defender makes a play that negatively affects the outcome of a passing play.
Selvie against Florida State:
Throwaway forced
Sack
Offensive holding penalty
Pressure
Chop block penalty
Good job being on the size that has a chop block being equal to a sack.
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...One can be an OLineman's mistake, the other takes Defensive skill.
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It takes defensive skill to incure a penalty, but sure, let's drop the cut block.
He generated two pressures, a sack, and a holding penalty in 21 snaps. That is the very definition of pass rushing production.
If we have a chance to draft Suh and we don't, I will scream, though.
There hasn’t been a more talented defensive tackle since Haynesworth/Williams.
I can't see the Bucs messing this up
It has been WIDELY acknowledged we need DL help, particularly in the middle. There is no way they can get around that.
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We are trading down for Berry.
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We need more help. Trading down a few picks nets us another 2nd rounder probably.
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How far do you push it?
We have a first and two seconds right now. We could probably move from 1 to 3 or 2 to 4 and still get Suh, but Im against moving out of his range
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I thought we only had 1 2nd.
We traded the first for K2.
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We traded 2009 2nd for K2
2010 second is still here.
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Ah.
Well, I wasn’t saying we trade down to 11 or something. Still top 10 at least.
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I'd be okay-ish with Suh if we got Allen or Chancellor in the 2nd.
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I wouldn't hate the pick, but I'd rather have Berry.
It’s a deep draft for DL.
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I disagree
Name me all the top DT’s in the NFL that can play the middle and then name me all the top Safeties. You can find safety talent elsewhere, these big dudes dont come about every day.
I think Berry is a great player, dont get me wrong, I just dont think you pass up a guy that can impact every single play.
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Suh is high bust potential anyway
Take the almost sure thing top S and gtfo of there.
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I don't see how you pass on a DT like Suh
especially after that last drive on Sunday. Our safeties will magically get better if we have a pass rush. I’m not in love with Sabby, but any secondary gets better when the pass rush gets better.
How do you think Ray Lewis, McAllister and Rolle’s careers got revived when Ngata was drafted.
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Haynesworth hasn't done shit to revive Sean Taylor's career.
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Slightly undersized DT with a history of knee problems?
See: Dorsey, Glen
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I dont watch USF but is PP that good if Selvie isnt on the team?
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Speaking of guys who have no technique
I’d love JPP though, better prospect than selvie, absolute monster.
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Isn't the big problem with him a lack of variety?
by R.J. Anderson on Oct 19, 2009 2:16 PM EDT up reply actions
This year he finally figured out the bull rush
and the half dozen times he used it, he provided pressure. But his only move in college and his first two years was run as fast as he could upfield and hope something happened.
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I just can't stand it when a guy enters the NFL as a pass rusher and doesn't make an impact.
Almost every great pass rusher has immediately been successful in the NFL. It’s defending the run, learning discipline and technique that takes time, not getting to the quarterback. You either can or cannot coming out of college.
He doesn't appear to have any backup ideas.
He runs right at the tackle, get’s bounced, and then kind of stands there with a, “Shit, now what?” look to him.
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He'll probably make for a very good rotational pass rusher somewhere down the line, but it wasn't going to be here.
Some of the revisionist history annoys me, though. Gaines was NOT considered a reach at the time – almost every major scouting organization and team though he was a top 5 pick. They were wrong, then and now, but Romano’s article about reaching on Gaines was not correct.
Not being a smart ass, but what did you think about the pick at the time?
I was against him at #4. I dont know if thought he was a reach, I just didnt want him on my team.
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Everybody I knew in the scouting community at the time had a huge laugh when he got drafted because they knew I loathed Adams and thought he was a second round pick.
One even went so far as to nearly ordering me an Adams jersey.
I was thinking Charlie Brown
He goes to kick the FG and everytime he fails. He never tries anything new. At least Wile E. Coyote tries new methods.
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Yeah, but if we did what Gruden wanted at the time (Peterson)
That wouldn’t have sucked. But there was so much pressure to draft defensively.
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Yeah, I wasn't on board with the Peterson pick, though obviously that would have been awesome in retrospect.
I just tend to think teams should avoid drafting running backs in the first round if their are athletic big bodies available.
Is it fact that Gruden wanted Peterson and got overruled?
AP is a great player, but who’s to say he would have been as successful here.
Eh, don’t even want to get into this
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Yep.
There were numerous articles on it at PR and the news even did a story on a quote he gave to that effect.
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Would he be as succcessful?
Probabaly not because he’s been the ebst back in the league. Guaranteed he’d still be a top 3 back. The guy is amazing.
But he knew CJ wasn't going to make it that far.
AP had that injury (clavicle?) and was expected to fall. And did.
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Between Calvin, Thomas, and Peterson we got nothing.
:(
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Something named a "Jethro Franklin"
FREE SPEACH is a myth. There is no such thing as 100% free speech. You cannot go into a movie theater and say "FIRE"!…"What? I have freedom of speach!" Bull. Doesnt work that way. Any real lawyer will tell you that.
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twss
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Your gut tells me your wife (or mom) is a pretty talented cook
FREE SPEACH is a myth. There is no such thing as 100% free speech. You cannot go into a movie theater and say "FIRE"!…"What? I have freedom of speach!" Bull. Doesnt work that way. Any real lawyer will tell you that.
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My mom is.
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He may be talented
but is it coming together on the field? DVOA doesn’t icnlude scouting aspects, so you could have all the tools, but if you go 7-19 with 2 picks, itll be ugly.
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Who is more to blame? Him or his coaches?
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Can it me both?
Not all players come out gangbusters their first 2.5 years. He wasn’t a refined player to begin with. I would say (by his McD’s comment) that he relied far too much on speed and not studying or working out and the coaches allowed him to get away with it.
I’m not an Adams fan, but with the right coaching he might be alright. I don’t think he’s an 6-8 Pro Bowl guy, but if anyone can turn him around, it’s Marinelli.
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Yes.
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Son of a whore. Im anti on fire right now
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It's on JJ, but that doesn't neccessarily mean it's a lost cause.
Playing in the NFL as a young quarterback is exceptionally difficult. Even if you start off well, that doesn’t guarantee you’re going to continue to perform well – see David Carr, or what’s currently happening with Mark Sanchez. There are a lot of bumpy roads, particularly if you don’t have the best talent around you. If he can cut down on his bad decisions in the next two-three games, I think you’ll see a guy with a bright future. If he can’t, then his ceiling is going to be as a back up.
I would like to see us take more of a Patriots-Tom Brady approach with him – slants, screens, and a lot of handoffs.
Some of it is growing pains. Everyone was ready to give Sanchez free hj's for the rest of his life
he’s falling back to Earth (also known as regression, in case you guys didn’t know that). This was his (JJ) 3rd start. Is he throwing 5 TD’s a quarter? No, but the guy is learning on the job with crappy players around him and an OC who can’t game plan to save his life.
JJ is making some good plays and bad plays and is doing what I expect rookie QB’s to do (stare down WR’s, hold the ball, leave the pocket).
I think the coaches are doing him a HUGE disservice by not adjusting the game plan week to week or game to game or even drive to drive. JJ’s not blameless, but to expect a virtuoso performance this early is a bit much. Everything Ive heard and read says he is a smart, hard working guy. I’ll hitch my wagon to him 10 out of 10 times because he will get it. Its the lazy dumb ones that fail and so far Freeman has been called both.
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I'm glad you said that.
I was remarking to a co-worker that our coaching staff can’t seem to make any sort of adjustments. Every week we seem out manned, out gunned, and outsmarted. I’m not saying Fire Raheem. I would like to see Joe Barry getting the ax. Richard Mann has gone too long without producing a class receiver. I’m willing to give Bates another year to get some better personnel in.
I think Barrett Ruud is overrated as fuck. He makes a lot of tackles, but within the 5-7 yard range.
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Ruud will make some good plays, but he's not a game-changer.
If we can get something from Indy for him, that would be nice.
The worst plays imo were the lack of runs, the 3rd and 7 just before the missed field goal, the lack of accounting for the wind,
lack of halftime adjustments (47-7 outscored in 3rd quarter), etc.
That play before the FG had me fuming. I was screaming to run the ball, get a few more yards because the wind was dead in his face (thus why his kickoffs didnt get past the 10). That was Morris and Olsen’s fault for not helping our kicker.
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And dont get me started on Dirk Johnson.
Our kicking game sucks. Dirk couldnt hit a 40 yard punt (in the air) witht he wind at his back this week.
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RJ, did you happen to ask Cevallos if any other Rays had approached him after Zo's season?
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As far as I know nobody has.
I’d have to ask to be 100% sure.
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Eh, it was jsut fun to make Strasburg's debut more about Nevin Ashley in the headline
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I feel bad for O'Malley.
You are fast, this is your award.
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Next year J-Beckham is going to Tonya Harding him.
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aka Thin Beckham?
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The Rays have a lot of speed between Nando, Deezy, Powell and O"Malley
If he truly is the best base runner, he can be a situational player for somebody someday. OBP was tops in FSL too. Ashley’s caught stealing #’s are sick.
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I lost in fantasy 145-78.5
SHould have started Stroughter, he was worth 25.
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U2
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Sah is awesome
Jaccobi McDaniel will be awesome
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2009 FSU Football: Bobby Bowden.........it's time to go
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Arthur Jones, JPP, Eric Berry, Jake Locker, Terrence Cody
This isn’t a The Wire situation where I bash a show I never watched, I actually follow this shit.
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HEY, WE GOT OUR GUY ALRIGHT.
SO STOP PUTTING HIM THROUGH THIS EMOTIONAL ROLLERCOASTER. HE WILL PLAY WHEN READY AND WHEN THE OTHER COACHES AGREE TO CHILL OUT ON THE BLITZ PACKAGES.
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If we're going the Haloti Ngata route as mentioned above lets get T. Cody
Might as well have a mountain for a NT.
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Cody is awful slow off the snap, which is concerncing, but I haven't seen a ton of him, so it may have just been a temporary thing.
Reeks a little of Ryan Sims.
From threeinchesfetish.com?
Sign lady must die.
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And the lucky lady is?
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Tim Teabag? Why?
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Sorry it took me so long to answer this
I set myself on fire, swallowed gasoline and other Simmons related ideas.
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My fantasy soccer team lurched out of the relegation zone thanks to a beach ball.
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That was fantastic.
I’ll be shocked if he’s working in the EPL after that game. Clear as day, drop ball.
If you need ideas for topics that would appeal to mass audiences, i suggest
- E-Jax vs Sonny
- BJ’s work ethic
- Joe Madon’s hair color
- raymondo’s decision to use sternfan1
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Speaking of catchers, Rays organzitational defensive player of the year Nevin Ashley is about to call a great game for 2009 Braves 1st rd #7 pick LHP Mike Minor
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Pretty good game, Abreu's running mistake may go down in history
Just need to squeeze one out and then let Scotty Kaz get his no-no tomorrow, right back in this.
Get well soon DM
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