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Ben Zobrist looks to be part of a three way platoon in 2010(AP Photo/Chris O'Meara)

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Ben Zobrist looks to be part of a three way platoon in 2010(AP Photo/Chris O'Meara)

One of the more interesting story lines of this offseason, to me at anyway, will be the competition for the last remaining bench spot*.

*This is barring any major trades or signings before opening day

The Rays came into 2009 with a fairly strong bench consisting of Ben ZobristGabe Kapler/Gross, Willy Aybar, and Shawn Riggans.  Although he was already getting semi-regular at bats, Ben Zobrist was thrust into the starting lineup when Aki Iwamura went down with a knee injury in late May.  That injury forced the Rays to call up players like Reid Brignac and Joe Dillon to warm the now vacant bench spot.  Shawn Riggans suffered his usual injury set back which allowed Michel Hernandez a roster spot until the Zaunbie Nation came to Tampa Bay.  The bench was obviously stretched out more than the Rays would have liked last season but it did an admirable job.  The options for 2010 will offer a slightly different cast of characters.
 
Fernando Perez:
 
-Perez has long been one of my favorite Ray players, but that’s been more for his talents off the field than on it.  A useful reserve outfielder for most teams, Perez may be forced out of a roster spot with the Rays thanks to a likely Matt Joyce/Ben Zobrist platoon in right field.  Perez would be better served playing every day in Triple A and working on the next great American novel instead of wasting away at the end of the Rays bench.


Reid Brignac:
 
-The probable shortstop of the future,  Brignac does have an option left and would no doubt be better off playing full time at Durham than riding the pine in St. Pete.  Unless the Rays trade Jason Bartlett I don't see Brignac beginning the year on the Rays bench.


Gabe Kapler:
 
-Kapler is an interesting candidate.  He doesn't yet have a contract for 2010, but the Rays would be in need of a right handed outfield bat coming off the bench.  Kapler earned $1m last season and did job very well, putting up an OPS of .931 against left handed pitching.  If Kapler is willing to accept another contract of $1m, or maybe a little less, I think the Rays have to seriously consider bringing him back. 

Willy Aybar:

Aybar will undoubtably be a member of the Rays' bench in 2010 as the primary backup at 3B/1B.  Even though Aybar rated uncharacteristically poor at every defensive position he played in 2009 he isn't a liability with the glove and his bat more than holds its own.  The addition of Sean Rodriguez will drastically cut into the amount of games Aybar sees at second base next season.  His salary of $1.35m is very reasonable for the production he provides.

Sean Rodriguez:

The main piece in the Scott Kazmir trade, Rodriguez will likely be the platoon partner of Ben Zobrist at second base and is able to backup Jason Bartlett at shortstop.  He'll strike out enough to get the local fans to boo him, but his versatility and power bat should be enough to assure himself of a bench spot in 2010. 

Matt Joyce:

I see Matt Joyce being a part of what I'm calling the Ben Zobrist Platoon menage a trois.  Joyce starts in right field against right handed pitchers while Zobrist starts at 2B.  Against southpaws Joyce would sit in favor of the switch hitting Zobrist, while Rodriguez would play second base.  Joyce spent most of 2009 in AAA and played well enough to earn a promotion, not to mention the fact that Gabe Gross and Gabe Kapler are not likely to return. 

Catcher:

The plan for a starting catcher is still up in the air, so I'm even going to begin to speculate on who the backup will be, but obviously there will be one on the roster.

 

I'm not sure which direction the team will go, but I'm strongly in favor of the re-signing of Gabe Kapler.  They could go with a four or five man bench next season depending on how they decide to structure the bullpen.  If they choose a four man bench I think Rodriguez, Aybar, Kapler, and Catcher would be the best fit to begin the season.  If they go five then I would lean toward Fernando Perez to fill the last spot, if only for his pinch running abilities.  No matter who they choose or how they structure it, the Rays will once again have a cost effective and productive bench in 2010.

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Perez would be more valuable

Coming off the bench as a pinch runner or substitute in the outfield, then would be playing for the Bulls.

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by thebaddancingraysfan on Oct 20, 2009 7:41 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Perez is the optimal last man on the bench

I don’t see him every being an everyday player or part of a platoon with the Rays. hwoever his speed and defensive ability make him a fantastic situational player. Kapler did a nice job in his role this year, but without factoring into a platoon he becomes an extra cost.

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by FreeZorilla on Oct 20, 2009 9:05 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I'm good with keeping Kap around.

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by PlayOnWords on Oct 20, 2009 9:39 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I like Kapler and think he's useful

But with the platoon possibilities of zobrist/joyce in rf and then zobrist/rodriguez at 2B, the million or so kapler would make could go to someone else.

Also saw that Eduardo Perez could be the last coach on the bench as the hitting coach.

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by Tommy Rancel on Oct 20, 2009 9:42 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions   0 recs

I think his power element distinguishes him from Perez, who I like, but probably won't make as much of an impact.

Kap’s still got some wheels and can play any OF spot. I’d be more comfortable with a bench of Joyce (who I still think might be traded out of here), StB, Aybar, Kap, Zaunbie/Catcher X.

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by PlayOnWords on Oct 20, 2009 9:46 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

It's speculation.

I think he could be packaged with MVB to get a better return. AF brought in StB, who can play SS, 2B, and RF. Whoever the 4th OF is also rotates in, be it Kap or Perez. I just don’t see Joyce being incredibly valuable as essentially a platoon player. Not more than he would be as a trade chip, since he still has some prospect sheen.

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by PlayOnWords on Oct 20, 2009 9:52 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Joyce's power is legit

We at least need to see what we have there before just shipping him off. Without proper MLB evaluation it could turn into a real dumb move. Two guys that I offer up to throw in the mix at catcher are Shinnosuke Abe and Tasuku Hashimoto. Throw one of them in with Navi, and your bench looks like S-Rod, Aybar, Perez, NPB catcher. This means that Craw, Beej, and Joyce/Zobrist are the everyday OF’s (all of this is assuming these players are not traded, obviously), Longo, Barty, S-Rod/Zobrist, Pena around the IF.

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by Sandy Kazmir on Oct 20, 2009 10:25 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Isn't Abe like 123 years old?

Or am I thinking of a different Japanese catcher?

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by Brickhaus on Oct 20, 2009 3:52 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

He's 30 or 32, but you now how hard it is to guess the age on those guys

His bday is in the link, both of those guys could come over and be worthwhile backups

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by Sandy Kazmir on Oct 20, 2009 6:40 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions   0 recs

Bench

Will have switch hitting Aybar who can be the primary pinch hitter. Perez is a much better pinch running option than Kap. Late game pinch running was a joke this year. All out switch hitters lessen the need for a RHB pinch hitting specialist.

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by FreeZorilla on Oct 20, 2009 9:50 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I don't see the 4th member of the bench getting much playing time

As I see it Joyce and Zobrist will get the at bats vs rhp and then Zobrist and Rodriguez will get them vs lhp. So basically you’d be paying Kapler around 600k more than Perez to do nothing except run sometimes and play once a week maybe. If we were looking for a platoon partner for Joyce and looking to fill 250 at-bats then I take Kapler over Perez. I just don’t see it playing out that way as far as playing time.

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by Tommy Rancel on Oct 20, 2009 9:50 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions   0 recs

Assuming no trades and

1. The Rays will have 12 pitchers and 2 catchers
2. Pena, Longoria, Crawford and Upton are locks to start
3. Iwamura and Gross are gone

That leaves 7 spots open for the following players to fill:
Bartlett
S. Rodriguez
Aybar
Zobrist
Perez
Joyce
Burrell
Brignac
Kapler????

Am I missing someone?

I like the idea of the double platoon at 2B and RF, although I hate relegating a young player like Joyce to platoon duties even if it gives him most of the starts. That takes care of 3 more players and now 4 spots with 6 candidates. If we assume it is Bartlett at SS and Burrell as DH, that leaves 2 spots and 4 candidates-Aybar, Brignac, Perez, Kapler. I don’t see the Rays letting Aybar go, and it seems to me unproductive to stall Brignac in AAA another season. I also do not see the point of leaving Perez there, especially as he does add a useful skill to the roster in TB.

I also like the idea of keeping Kapler, if financially sensible, but something has to give. I suppose Brignac and Perez could be sent down, but both have earned promotion to the majors, especially Brignac. Neither stalling them at AAA nor having them get stale on the TB bench is attractive.

So to go back to the beginning, it seems to me there has to be a trade as I doubt the Rays just release talent. If that is so, who is most likely to go? In order:

Kapler: not re-signed
Bartlett: Trade at peak value OR
Brignac: Trade due to less confidence than in Bartlett (but cheaper and promising)
Perez: Back to AAA; system depth
Aybar: Trade in package or in a relatively minor deal. Replaced by S. Rodriguez/Brignac
Burrell: Trade, but leaves DH hole (or can Aybar fill it as well?)
Joyce: Trade, but seems unlikely without a trial in TB. Zobrist to RF or in Kapler/Zobrist/S. Rod
            platoon and Jennings on the way to TB outfield mid-season.

I doubt we even have to consider either Zobrist or S. Rodriguez not making the team, although I suppose a really terrible spring for Rodriguez might relegate him to AAA to start the season.

My guess: Kapler goes and either Bartlett or Brignac is dealt.

by bobr on Oct 20, 2009 12:26 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

As usual, this is pretty spot on

It makes little sense to keep Bartlett and Brignac b/c it is unlikely either will have as high trade value going forward as they do now. Bartlett is coming off a career season with nothing coming close. Brignac has a bunch of upside and most of his cost control remaining. If you keep them both Bartlett will almost surely regress and Briggys time clock will be wasting down. Kapler and a SS should go. What the marketplace says about the SSs should be the determining factor.

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by FreeZorilla on Oct 20, 2009 12:40 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I don't re-sign Kapler either if his duties remain the same

To occupy a roster spot for a full season with less than 200 PA is worthy only for a back-up C, if that

by sternfan1 on Oct 20, 2009 12:47 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I wouldn't be shocked if they go with a short bench

and a long bullpen. If everyone’s healthy, you really only need Aybar and Rodriguez (and a catcher) as backups. They can cover every position except CF, and Zobrist or Crawford could fill in at CF in a pinch.

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by Brickhaus on Oct 20, 2009 2:05 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Not necessarily

But if past practice is any indication of future practice, they’ll probably keep some guys around simply because they’re under contract, not because they’re any good, with the hopes of trading them somewhere down the line.

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by Brickhaus on Oct 20, 2009 3:51 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Thats proven to be pretty succesful

We haven’t moved a reliever in years, no? Abreu for Meloan, who we dumped for Swindle, who we dumped for Abreu is the only one that comes to mind.

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by FreeZorilla on Oct 20, 2009 4:01 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Hopefully Swindle returns.

And it was nifty because Abreu’s opt out was literally days after Isringhausen’s arm exploded.

Richard would’ve been lost via R5 and we gained Zaun for him. Nifty times two.

by R.J. Anderson on Oct 20, 2009 4:04 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Rhyne Hughes

Lucky for us, we had a few weeks of MLB Richard

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by FreeZorilla on Oct 20, 2009 4:12 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

We haven't

But you can’t deny that there were a few guys who were probably kept around too long on the hopes they could be traded. A few worked out, a few didn’t. If you have the roster room to spare, I’m fine with that, but I don’t want them to hurt the team’s chances of winning in the hopes that we can salvage value from Jeff Bennett.

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by Brickhaus on Oct 20, 2009 7:46 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I agree

I just don’t think they will make the same mistake again

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by FreeZorilla on Oct 20, 2009 11:16 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

MAYBE

Aybar or puffy could be a catcher. Operation convert to catcher begin.

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by Some other guy who does not care on Oct 20, 2009 5:13 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Ramon Castro?

Made 2.5 million last year, but he is a “no-Type” free agent so he should not be too expensive. wOBA against lefties is average-good according to this graph.

by BrendanHarrisLives on Oct 20, 2009 2:28 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Speaking of Catching

I am Trs86 of The Real Dirty Mets Blog (www.realdirtymetsblog.com). The Mets will most likely be looking for a LH backup catcher. I came across John Jaso’s name. Obviously I know nothing about him. Can you guys give me a scouting report on him as well as what his future is with the Rays and what it would take to get him in a trade?

by Trs86! on Oct 20, 2009 10:17 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Quick and dirty

Used to be a hitter who could pretend to catch. Last year, his catching seemed to improve a hair from horrible to sort of passible, but his bat disappeared. When at his best, he had great plate discipline and decent power, but unless he bounces back next year, I think he’s played his way out of the Rays’ future plans.

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by Brickhaus on Oct 20, 2009 10:46 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Thanks

With the backup type success the Mets got from Santos and the terrible options on the FA market it has me looking. The Mets think they have found a future catcher in Josh Thole but he is not ready.

by Trs86! on Oct 20, 2009 10:52 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Has he really lost his status that dramatically?

He continues to walk a great deal and does not strike out much. In fact, in his 331 ABs in 2009 he had 46 BBs and 49 Ks. What seemed to disappear was his power with just 5 home runs & 14 doubles last season while he generally hit 12-15 HRs and 20-25 doubles in previous years.

I know his defensive reputation is poor, but as last year was the first time his OPS was under .800 (although his OBP was .362) I wonder whether he might still be considered a candidate for a backup. I know that role is usually reserved for defensive catchers, but a contact hitter who can simulate a catcher might still have some value.

These are really just questions as I have no idea how the Rays view him or what his season really was like in Durham beyond rather simple numbers.

by bobr on Oct 20, 2009 11:10 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Personally, I just dont see the upside of keeping Kapler.

Obviously were getting a bat that can hit lefties at a good clip, play good defense (at least in RF), and is great in the club house by all accounts. But if were already doing a platoon in RF with two-thirds of the menage a trois, than I dont see where Kap fits into our plans. I think keeping Perez as the 4th OF is a better idea for a few reasons. First because his splits arent so dramatic but also because hes a better backup CF (that is obviously my own opinion with the naked eye, using UZR between the two would be too small of a SS). Now Nando had that one bad night in CF but I think he is better suited to give BJ a night off than Kap. This is all without even considering how much more cost effective this would be.

by BJ the Bossman on Oct 21, 2009 9:30 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

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