Rays Name Derek Shelton As New Hitting Coach
Operation fix B.J. Upton has a new general. The Rays announced 39 year-old Derek Shelton will be the teams new hitting coach. Shelton spent the past five seasons in the same position with the Cleveland Indians.
We've been over the quanitfying of positional coaches and really there is no way to do so, but just some numbers that won't appear in the press release below. From 2006-2009, the four full seasons that Shelton was hitting coach, the Indians averaged 86 sacrifice hits; the Rays had 70 in 2009. A normal Shelton coached lineup strikes out around 19% of the time and walks around 9%. This is pretty much in line with what the Rays have done recently. Nonetheless, it will be interesting to see how Shelton handles the lineup of free swingers.
Here is the press release from the Rays...
ST. PETERSBURG, FL-The Tampa Bay Rays have named Derek Shelton major league hitting coach. Shelton, 39, spent the last five seasons as hitting coach for the Cleveland Indians.
"Derek has proven himself to be one of the better minds in baseball when it comes to hitting," Rays Executive Vice President of Baseball Operations Andrew Friedman said. "He brings a fresh voice that can help our talented core of hitters reach new heights. His attention to detail and ability to communicate will be great additions to our group."
"I believe he is the kind of coach who can create a hitting program that will benefit the organization both at the minor league and major league levels," said Rays Manager Joe Maddon. "In our conversations, I found that we share the same philosophy on a number of different areas. He was very clear and concise on his intentions and in the end it was an easy decision."
Shelton was named the Indians hitting coach on June 4, 2005, at the age of 34, replacing Hall of Famer Eddie Murray. He remained in that role through the end of 2009. Over his tenure the Indians ranked fifth in the major leagues in runs scored, seventh in batting avg., third in on-base pct., sixth in slugging pct., second in doubles and 10th in home runs. In each of his first four seasons (2005-08), the Indians offense ranked eighth or higher in the majors in runs scored. In 2009 they finished 12th.
Shelton spent seven years with the Indians, also serving as hitting coordinator from 2003-05. Prior to that, he spent six seasons coaching in the New York Yankees organization. He began his coaching career with the GCL Yankees (Rookie) in 1997 and earned promotions to Tampa (A) in 1998 and Norwich (AA) in 1999. He then managed three years for the GCL Yankees (2000-01) and Staten Island (Short-Season A; 2002), leading his clubs to first-place finishes in 2000 and 2001 and league championships in 2001 and 2002.
A former catcher, Shelton played two years (1992-93) in the Yankees organization before an elbow injury ended his career. He graduated from Southern Illinois University with a degree in criminal justice. He resides in Tampa with his wife, Alison, and two children, Jackson and Isabella.
He becomes the sixth hitting coach in club history and the youngest. He follows Steve Henderson (1998, 2006-09), Leon Roberts (1999-2000), Wade Boggs (2001), Milt May (2002) and Lee Elia (2003-05).
Good luck and welcome Derek Shelton
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Interesting hire
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by Buc Wild on Oct 21, 2009 11:20 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
On paper this sounds like a great move.
You have to like that he has a degree, has several years of experience, and seemed to lift an Indians team that wasn’t chock full of talent.
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by Sandy Kazmir on Oct 21, 2009 11:24 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
On pitching
anyway, their hitting is pretty good.
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by Some other guy who does not care on Oct 21, 2009 11:25 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hopefully FreeZo will be kind enough to run the numbers on Y-Y for his batters, but outside of Sizemore, V-Mart, and Hafner
I can’t think of too many guys that scream great hitter. He turned guys like Garko, Peralta, Choo, Cabrera, F-Gut, Broussard, and Belliard into league average or better hitters, when there doesn’t look to be a ton of offensive talent in most of them.
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by Sandy Kazmir on Oct 21, 2009 12:00 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Former catcher also
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by Tommy Rancel on Oct 21, 2009 11:29 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
Indians teams are known for their plate discipline
Cabrera, Sizemore, Choo to name a few who have been tutored by him
by sternfan1 on Oct 21, 2009 11:34 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Not a bad move.
Just not a “sexy” move. You know? I was giddy thinking maybe Eduardo Perez or Wade Boggs might come back to the Rays. ANd we get a guy who has done a fine job, and that’s it. I will take it. It’s just the lack of “sexy” that bothers me. That’s all.
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by thebaddancingraysfan on Oct 21, 2009 11:47 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I'd rather have Steve Phillips than either Eduardo Perez or Wade Boggs
Hiring a “name” guy is not what we are about.
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by Sandy Kazmir on Oct 21, 2009 12:01 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Steve Phillips, that would be funny.
This is a good solid hire. Does Jessica Alba coach? That would be a “sexy” pick.
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by thebaddancingraysfan on Oct 21, 2009 12:50 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Down to Earth Guy
I have no idea to what effect he will have on our hitting but I did hang out with him 2 years ago at a small neighborhood Christmas party here in Tampa. We had several drinks and cigars, he kicked back and had plenty of good stories about Cleveland guys (mostly Pronk).
I don’t think we have to worry about him being a dick and I can see players relating to him well.
Plus his girlfriend is hot.
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by RaysnNoles on Oct 21, 2009 11:58 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I'll be happy to do the y-y #'s for the past 3 seasons as I did for Henderson
Will also look at 09 vs projections
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by FreeZorilla on Oct 21, 2009 12:09 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Thanks boss
Any chance you could take a look at the year prior to him arriving vs. his first year as well? Would be interesting to see the texture of their team (or philosophy, if you will) and what his immediate impact was.
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by Sandy Kazmir on Oct 21, 2009 12:15 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Added a few team stats to the post.
Team stats aren’t the best, but on short time they will do. Shelton lineups K’d around 19% and walked 9%. Thats about what the Rays do. Did notice his teams are around 90 sacrifice hits (bunt/fly) per year. The Rays had 70 last season.
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by Tommy Rancel on Oct 21, 2009 12:20 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sizemore had zero bunt hits in 2006 then saw that number increase by a handful or two in the next few years.
I wonder if Shelton helps develop Carl’s bunt game.
by R.J. Anderson on Oct 21, 2009 12:26 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
do you really want him bunting at this point?
he doesn’t want to=he won’t
by sternfan1 on Oct 21, 2009 12:31 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
CC or BJ doesn't matter
Teach Jennings too.
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by Tommy Rancel on Oct 21, 2009 12:33 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
Nando is a bunt-meister
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by Sandy Kazmir on Oct 21, 2009 12:35 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
For game theory purposes.
Although most of Carl’s bunts turn into sac bunts with no chance of being hits, so maybe not.
by R.J. Anderson on Oct 21, 2009 12:35 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
The bunt mechanic
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by Tommy Rancel on Oct 21, 2009 12:31 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions 1 recs
Ha, nice one
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by FreeZorilla on Oct 21, 2009 12:47 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
More rudimentary stuff Team wOBA Rank 2005-09
2005 – .339 4th in MLB
2006 – .346 3rd
2007 – .335 12th
2008 – .334 10th
2009 – .333 11th
(Devil) Rays 2005-09
2005 – .329 10th
2006 – .317 29th
2007 – .335 10th
2008 – .336 9th
2009 – .343 4th
As you can see, having a great wOBA does not guarantee your job. Keep in mind this is about the most extreme layer of the epidermis, but I will try to dig deeper as time permits.
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by Sandy Kazmir on Oct 21, 2009 12:34 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
The Rays and Indians are similar hitting teams
High Ks high BB low ba/risp
by sternfan1 on Oct 21, 2009 12:32 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I guess I can find a new topic
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by FreeZorilla on Oct 21, 2009 1:29 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
So why did Cleveland let him go? Were all of their coaches terminated?
by gjsor on Oct 21, 2009 1:25 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Everybody went with Wedge
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by Tommy Rancel on Oct 21, 2009 1:29 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
Yep. A few of us wanted him back.
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by westbrook on Oct 21, 2009 1:29 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
That's comforting
Any idea who the new coach will be? I could see Manny Acta and Albert Belle being good fits for Manager and Batting Coach/Pharmacist, respectively.
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by Sandy Kazmir on Oct 21, 2009 1:31 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
It’s looking like Acta is the frontrunner for the managerial post. Mattingly and Valentine seem to have a slight chance. Belle has been mentioned at LGT, mostly jokingly.
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by westbrook on Oct 21, 2009 1:33 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Not a bad idea
maybe Eric Wedge coulda been our new hitting coach……not
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by Gone Phishing on Oct 21, 2009 1:35 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I'd have him be the Under-Secretary to the Admiral of Brawlfense.
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by Sandy Kazmir on Oct 21, 2009 1:37 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Or he could be your Executive Assistant On Grit.
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by westbrook on Oct 21, 2009 4:15 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Obviously his number one priority should be working with BJ
But Id love to see what he can do with Briggy’s inside out swing. I think if a few small things were fixed, Briggys offensive production could jump dramatically. Oh yea and he needs to fix that ass hole Zobrists’ swing. Shits broke.
by BJ the Bossman on Oct 21, 2009 3:00 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

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