Why The Rays Should Target Joaquin Benoit
Stopping short of just inviting every free agent reliever who possesses a fastball and a slider to spring training, I decided to look into a few individual cases that I think might fit the Rays' plans in 2010. The first name is Joaquin Benoit. The name has been mentioned in passing on the site for the past few weeks, but now it's time to actually take a look at him.
Benoit, 32, is one of those fastball/slider combo relievers that we see having success all over the league. While he isn't the extreme slider pitcher that Michael Wuertz is (over 60% last two seasons), he throws his fair share. He also isn't as fastball conscious as Grant Balfour or David Aardsma thanks to a nice little change up in his arsenal. Despite the lack of a plus plus heater, a person with knowledge of the Rangers system and Benoit described his slider as a "true slider" that has enhanced his K rate as a reliever. They also mentioned he has "good stuff to keep you interested, but can frustrate you." Sounds a lot like the aforementioned Balfour, who has been one of the best relievers in baseball the past two seasons.
Drawing even more comparisons to Balfour in a different way, Benoit fits the mold of an injured reliever who could be a steal for the next team that takes a chance on him being healthy. He missed the entire 2009 season after having shoulder surgery in 2008. Sources that I've reached out to say he started throwing in August and is a likely candidate to pitch in a winter league to showcase his arm for Major League suitors. Until he proves he's fully recovered the injury will remain a concern; however, Benoit was a pretty effective reliever before the shoulder gave way.
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IP |
ERA |
FIP |
tRA |
K/9 |
BB/9 |
HR/9 |
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2005* |
87 |
3.72 |
3.95 |
4.54 |
8.07 |
3.93 |
0.93 |
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2006 |
79.2 |
4.86 |
3.37 |
3.76 |
9.6 |
4.29 |
0.56 |
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2007 |
82 |
2.85 |
3.17 |
4.05 |
9.55 |
3.07 |
0.66 |
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2008 |
45 |
5 |
5.29 |
5.62 |
8.6 |
7 |
1.2 |
*45 innings came as a starting pitcher.
Benoit put up a lot of innings in 2006 and 2007, but also put up very good numbers. It seems that the workload took its toll on his arm, and as you can see his abbreviated 2008 wasn't particularly good. Of course, the hope is he can get back to those three years of sub 4 FIPs and continue to decrease his walks.
I hit on his stuff briefly at the top, but here's a little bit more.
| FB% | SL% | CH% | |
| 2005 | 61.5 | 20 | 13.4 |
| 2006 | 62.9 | 20.3 | 13.1 |
| 2007 | 58.6 | 19.7 | 20.7 |
| 2008 | 64.6 | 13.2 | 21.8 |
Interesting to see the decrease in sliders coinciding with the injury. Thoughts of Scott Kazmir pop up even though Kazmir's problems were elbow related. As a former starter, Benoit has multiple pitches including a curveball and a cutter, but sticks to these three as his main pitches.
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LD% |
FB% |
GB% |
HR/FB% |
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2005 |
19 |
48.4 |
32.7 |
7.5 |
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2006 |
18.6 |
44.1 |
37.3 |
5.2 |
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2007 |
23.5 |
39.2 |
37.3 |
7.1 |
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2008 |
17.3 |
55.9 |
26.8 |
8.5 |
Benoit went from a predominately flyball pitcher to a near neutral pitcher over the course of three seasons. In 2008, however, the flyballs increased over 15%. I'm guessing this was once again because of the injury.
| Swstr% | K% | uBB% | O-Swing% | |
| 2005 | 12.1 | 26.09 | 10.56 | 23 |
| 2006 | 12.4 | 24.5 | 9.8 | 26.4 |
| 2007 | 15.1 | 25.89 | 7.74 | 29.9 |
| 2008 | 13 | 20.57 | 15.79 | 30.7 |
If you look at the first category and aren't impressed then you should probably just stop reading. Benoit has been fantastic at getting swinging strikes which is a great sign for any pitcher. When Balfour was busy telling people to STFD in 2008, his swstr 11.2%. That would be low for Benoit.
Despite the nice numbers and the good stuff there is a fair amount of risk in signing Benoit. Of course, without this risk he would be at the top of every teams shopping list. The situation is far from ideal, and after the past few seasons we as Rays fans should be weary of any relief pitchers with injury histories: Troy Percival, Jason Isringhausen, Joe Nelson, just to name a few.
However, without the payroll flexibility to sign an elite relief pitcher, gambling on the Benoits of the worlds is going to be a risk we must take. One scout recently told us "bullpen guys are fluky to begin with, but especially slider guys. You can get lucky and catch them in that special year where the slider is unhittable; always wise to try those guys."
And that's all I'm saying here. Benoit is not the answer if you're looking for an opening day closer, but over the course of the season he could be an above-average piece with experience in the back-end of games that would mesh well with the nucleus of J.P. Howell, Grant Balfour, Lance Cormier and even Dan Wheeler, if he's around. After talking to some other people around the Rangers, some feel there is a chance he can even be brought in as a non-roster invitee. If the Rays could swing that, I would be ecstatic. Speaking with a person with front office experience, he said "Bullpens are crazy. It's a crap shoot; see what sticks." Tell me about it.
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Actually it looks like 2008 is skewing those numbers a bit.
He’s usually solid versus both, which would be nice to have.
Here’s Boston’s pen and their three-year-splits:

Here’s ours:

I’d love to re-sign Springer (and add Calero) but quite the difference, eh?
by R.J. Anderson on Oct 7, 2009 7:25 AM EDT up reply actions
Balfour is a monster
Balfour, Howell, Benoit closing cames in which ever order with a Calero type in the mix. Sold!
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by Tommy Rancel on Oct 7, 2009 7:40 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
but why stop with that?
Calero and Benoit will not cost much at all. That should allow the Rays to spend some money on another solid arm…Rafael Betancourt, Mike Gonzalez, Rafael Soriano…any of these guys in addition to a Calero makes it easier to take a risk on the health of a Benoit…and if the Rays hit on 2 of 3, it’s a huge success.
by raysfaninminnesota on Oct 7, 2009 3:33 PM EDT up reply actions
Because we probably don't have a ton of money to spend?
Friedman isn’t saying “no closer” in the sense that someone on the team won’t be labeled as one, he’s saying “We’re not paying closer money for someone.”
by R.J. Anderson on Oct 7, 2009 3:37 PM EDT up reply actions
who says you have to spend closer money?
there’s an overabundance of ‘closers’ and very few big market teams that need them. This will bump some ‘closer-quality’ relievers into set up roles and set up contracts. The Rays added payroll for guys like Springer and Isringhausen…with the money they saved from Kaz this year as well, I don’t think it’s too much to ask to sign a decent reliever to Affeldt type money on a 1 yr or 2 yr deal.
by raysfaninminnesota on Oct 7, 2009 3:44 PM EDT up reply actions
They aren't saving Kazmir's money. That's probably going to be eaten up by Arbitration players
Springer and Isringhausen cost a combined ~2 mil. That’s not going to fetch Affeldt, Gonzalez or Soriano.
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by Tommy Rancel on Oct 7, 2009 3:47 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
don't forget Joe Nelson
that was another 1.2 mil added to the pay for something, get nothing reliever fund.
by raysfaninminnesota on Oct 7, 2009 3:48 PM EDT up reply actions
add those 3 together and you come awfully close to the 3-4 mil a good reliever would cost
by raysfaninminnesota on Oct 7, 2009 3:49 PM EDT up reply actions
3-4 Million buys you a Dan Wheeler.
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by Tommy Rancel on Oct 7, 2009 3:54 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
3-4 million buys you a Jeremy Affeldt as well
by raysfaninminnesota on Oct 7, 2009 3:55 PM EDT up reply actions
and in this market could be enough to get whatever reliever doesn't get a closing gig on a 1 year deal
Mike Gonzalez and Betancourt seem the most likely on that one.
by raysfaninminnesota on Oct 7, 2009 3:56 PM EDT up reply actions
The multi-year deals from last off-season:
Affeldt: 2/8
Cruz: 2/6
Farnsworth: 2/9.3
Fuentes: 2/17.5
Marte: 3/12
Reyes: 2/3
Rhodes: 2/4
K-Rod: 3/37
Wood: 2/20.5
I don’t think Gonzalez is falling to 2-4 million, but we’ll see.
by R.J. Anderson on Oct 7, 2009 3:56 PM EDT up reply actions
thank you for that info
the odds of Gonzalez falling into that category on most year, i would wholeheartedly agree, doesn’t happen. But with the amount of closers and outside of Phily and the Cubs, no big market team needing a closer, those that don’t get money from them will be left out in the cold. Most likely the Yankees sweep in and offer more money to one of these guys as a set-up reliever, but there still should be pickings left for the Rays to be opportunistic. Cruz and Affeldt are the two best cases from last year. I hope the Rays can do that this year and wait and see if anyone falls who may not have been projected.
by raysfaninminnesota on Oct 7, 2009 4:00 PM EDT up reply actions
Even if he does, I'm not entirely sure I'd want him for 4 million.
He’s not elite and he’ll be switching into the AL.
by R.J. Anderson on Oct 7, 2009 4:02 PM EDT up reply actions
Of course this is assuming budget constraints that might be too strict, so who knows.
by R.J. Anderson on Oct 7, 2009 4:04 PM EDT up reply actions
yeah, until we know what the Rays are actually willing to spend, who knows
but what do you think the odds are that the Rays trade for a reliever. If the Rays do not decide to trade Bartlett, what about centering a deal around Brignac to get someone like Heath Bell who is just beginning his arbitration?
by raysfaninminnesota on Oct 7, 2009 4:09 PM EDT up reply actions
I'd probably put my fist through a wall if we dealt Brignac for Heath Bell.
Okay, I wouldn’t, I love my walls. Trading a young left-handed SS with 6 years of cost control for a non-elite reliever from an extreme pitcher’s park is not my idea of fun though.
by R.J. Anderson on Oct 7, 2009 4:13 PM EDT up reply actions
yeah i figured that isn't the best option
but what would be a decent concept of a attainable player for someone like Brignac? Essentially what could he fetch in a trade? Obviously this is all hypothetical, but like you said, he’s young, he plays a premium position with excellent defensive potential, he’s flashed enough in limited at-bats to give the impression he can hold his own offensively, with even more potential, and he’s got 6 cheap, team-controlled seasons.
What is that worth?
by raysfaninminnesota on Oct 7, 2009 4:16 PM EDT up reply actions
I'd hope so
but i don’t get the perception from other websites and coverage from around the league that Brignac is considered to have potential beyond a utility player or a good defensive shortstop, but not a top prospect kind of player.
by raysfaninminnesota on Oct 7, 2009 4:21 PM EDT up reply actions
how true
but so are most GM’s…but I can’t see how Brignac wouldn’t fetch quite a lot in a trade…speaking about dumb GM’s, KC could use a SS…and we could use Soria
by raysfaninminnesota on Oct 7, 2009 4:27 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm sure Dayton Moore has wallet-sized photos of Bartlett.
by R.J. Anderson on Oct 7, 2009 4:33 PM EDT up reply actions
i'm sure we'd be happy to take Soria and his team-friendly contract
provided we don’t ever find out what he does with those bartlett photos when he’s by himself.
by raysfaninminnesota on Oct 7, 2009 4:39 PM EDT up reply actions
unfortunately you don't get elite for 4 mil
but you at least want dependable and solid. Maybe Rafael Betancourt makes more sense. But Gonzalez is a lefty, strikes out more than 10/IP for last two seasons, gives up less than a hit per inning, but again it’s the NL East and not the AL East. The question always is how they will handle pitching in our division, but if it’s only a 1 year deal, i’d definitely do it, and I think he’s good enough to offer a 2 year deal if needed.
by raysfaninminnesota on Oct 7, 2009 4:07 PM EDT up reply actions
I don't think there's a huge difference between Benoit and Gonzalez frankly.
Not a large gap.
by R.J. Anderson on Oct 7, 2009 4:12 PM EDT up reply actions
health aside, I agree
and it all depends how much money the Rays will allot for the bullpen, but I like the idea of both, especially if one’s a righty and one’s a lefty. One seems like more of a safe bet (although gonzalez is an injury risk as well) and if the Rays hit on both, they will be all the more better for it. I dunno…I’d rather have a Betancourt or Soriano, but I don’t know if Soriano will fit into the Rays price range.
by raysfaninminnesota on Oct 7, 2009 4:18 PM EDT up reply actions
Farnsworth: 2/9.3
Hehehe. This just tickles me every time.
"There is a great need for sarcasm font."
Friedman said that a closer like Wagner is not in the offseason plans
But a few relievers who can get lefties and righties out and can pick up high lev innings are likely to be added. Benoit would seem to fit that description
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by Tommy Rancel on Oct 7, 2009 9:23 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
i dont want Springer back, but would love Calero
Vikings 4 the superbowl
It's a little devil that sits on Balfour's shoulder
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by Tommy Rancel on Oct 7, 2009 8:25 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Shoulder surgery and an awful 2008 make him iffy at best
Let’s limit the amount of players we sign who will don hospital robes v baseball uniforms
You realize the awful 2008 is a result of the injury
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by Tommy Rancel on Oct 7, 2009 8:23 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Possibly, but shoulder surgery is iffy at best for a pitcher and he's no spring chicken
i wouldn’t guarantee him anything more than a minor league invitee
Works for me. It's highly unlikely that
anybody gives him a guaranteed deal. There’s a lot of opportunity in the Rays bullpen. Opportunity + a good team should be what he’s looking for.
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by Tommy Rancel on Oct 7, 2009 8:31 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Yes.
He is not 40 years old and named Troy or Jason. Yes, yes, and yes.
In the name of Shinji Mori, we shall win!
by thebaddancingraysfan on Oct 7, 2009 10:32 AM EDT reply actions
"Balfour is a monster"
I concur, monsters are usually wild by nature
btw --re-call when all but me went ga ga over Cliff Lee
check out his last 6 or 7 starts with PHL and that’s not exactly NYY or BOS line-ups he’s facing
That's his Phillies' FIP.
So even if he sucked the last handful, he must’ve been God the first few.
by R.J. Anderson on Oct 7, 2009 2:19 PM EDT up reply actions
add kiko calero and beniot
bullpen fixed!
Vikings 4 the superbowl
i havent posted much lately but ive been reading all season
Vikings 4 the superbowl
I've had a man-crush on Benoit for many years, owning him in too many fantasy leagues.
But hey, my infatuation with David Aardsma finally paid off, and buying low on Benoit would be a great risk for the Rays.
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i dont even see it as a risk, i see it as a great reward
Vikings 4 the superbowl
Don't know how his health is
Saw a report that he had a couple of setbacks this summer. He also might be more likely to come back to the Rangers on a MiLB deal because it’s the only organization he’s ever been with and he likes it here.
The 2009 Texas Rangers offense: sigh...
Relief Pitchers?
Is it just me but are we all overlooking the fact that Friedman probably wont go after a reliever who is a class A free agent either.
Who's overlooking it?
We don’t have the money for a top flight relief pitcher. Everyone knows that. Benoit is a NRI candidate and Calero is a Type B at best.
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by Tommy Rancel on Oct 8, 2009 9:01 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Not Benoit
I wasn’t referring to Benoit. I was referring to the comments of signing Gonzalez, Frasor, or even Soriano. I don’t think Friedman is too worried about the money part. He’s a smart guy he’d figure out something on the money side, but no doubt the aforementioned players will be tendered arbitration and become Type A players. No way Friedman gives up those draft picks we need them too much. They say we can’t afford a lot of money for a closer but how much did we end up giving Percival to close for us?

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