OTTOTD 11/12: I'll keep it simple edition
by Some other guy who does not care on Nov 12, 2009 12:06 PM EST
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Seriously:
1) The Magic got beat bad yesterday, Discuss
2) Jamaal Charles or Lesean Mccoy
3) Here's a fun little site to track Aaron Rodger's sacks.
4) Link to World's most powerful people, Definitely not R.J Anderson
5) I never knew J.R Smith's real name was Earl.
6) Who saw Paranormal Activity?
7) Link to some great places to see
8) I need nine more words to make this post.
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First OTTOTD to start past noon.
Should we call this the SRQMan edition?
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NEVIN ASHLEY!!
13 game hitting streak. 2 triples and a double yesterday. Through 50 plate appearances his slash sits at .400/.439/.700.
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Would anyone be interested in a comparison of Rays' positional wOBA/wRAA/wRC vs. the AL/MLB?
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by Andy Hellicksonstine on Nov 12, 2009 12:31 PM EST reply actions
SRQ=SF1
What content would you like?
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by FreeZorilla on Nov 12, 2009 12:35 PM EST up reply actions
I've just about got it all put together, but I wasn't going to share if nobody was really interested in it.
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by Andy Hellicksonstine on Nov 12, 2009 12:36 PM EST up reply actions
I like you better during the season
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by Andy Hellicksonstine on Nov 12, 2009 12:39 PM EST up reply actions
Are there any deadlines approaching in MLB?
Not sure when the last day to offer contracts, arbitration and all that happens.
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If you're in any NFL pick em leagues, don't forget there is a game tonight.
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Same goes for setting lineup in fantasy football
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Thanks
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by Andy Hellicksonstine on Nov 12, 2009 12:56 PM EST up reply actions
OH HAI GUYZ, LETS TRADE FOR JUSTIN VERLANDER.
I'm a Brett Favre honk so FUCK YOU!
by PriceMultiCyYoungs on Nov 12, 2009 12:55 PM EST reply actions
I wish
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by Andy Hellicksonstine on Nov 12, 2009 12:56 PM EST up reply actions
Where is the link for the Aaron Rogers site?
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by PriceMultiCyYoungs on Nov 12, 2009 12:57 PM EST reply actions
There updated
Why do you kill threads????
by Some other guy who does not care on Nov 12, 2009 3:13 PM EST up reply actions
Why so cunty?
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by PriceMultiCyYoungs on Nov 12, 2009 1:02 PM EST up reply actions
If it's the one about Crawford
I thought so myself
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by Andy Hellicksonstine on Nov 12, 2009 1:05 PM EST up reply actions
He probably did no research on his own for that. Straight from DRB.
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by PriceMultiCyYoungs on Nov 12, 2009 1:09 PM EST up reply actions
Don't be a hater
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by Andy Hellicksonstine on Nov 12, 2009 1:14 PM EST up reply actions
Does anyone happen to know where I can find either an Unbiased WORLD Series Recap of Game Five
or some sort of outdated World Series Prediction Contest?
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As in George Thorogood and the Destoryers?
Cuz that sounds awesome.
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by Andy Hellicksonstine on Nov 12, 2009 1:16 PM EST up reply actions
I heard Ribfest is redic expensive.
$15 to get in the door and way over priced food and beer.
T/F?
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by PriceMultiCyYoungs on Nov 12, 2009 1:33 PM EST up reply actions
Sneak in a flask, problem solved
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by Andy Hellicksonstine on Nov 12, 2009 1:34 PM EST up reply actions
What kills treads faster? MW2 or PBrady?
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by PriceMultiCyYoungs on Nov 12, 2009 1:36 PM EST reply actions
Ribfest is much awesomer
not
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by Andy Hellicksonstine on Nov 12, 2009 2:08 PM EST up reply actions
Also an SRQ thing.
Sign lady must die.
by EminenceFront on Nov 12, 2009 2:11 PM EST up reply actions
Not an SRQ thing:
We all know SRQ likes his soda 100% real meat.
Officially now the head of the Lobstein bandwagon.
Not an SRQ thing:
We all know SRQ likes his soda 100% real meat.
Officially now the head of the Lobstein bandwagon.
They allow DRB in kindergarten?
Sign lady must die.
by EminenceFront on Nov 12, 2009 2:14 PM EST up reply actions
Kindergarten wird mit einem buchstabiert "t" sie blind.
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by EminenceFront on Nov 12, 2009 2:19 PM EST up reply actions
Not an SRQ thing:
We all know SRQ likes his soda 100% real meat.
Officially now the head of the Lobstein bandwagon.
by R.J. Anderson on Nov 12, 2009 2:13 PM EST up reply actions
Assisted Thread Killing
with Rowanna Juanita Anderson playing the part of Dr. Jack Kevorkian.
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I hate all the people talking about it at my school, so..
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Also, who selected that the Bucs would win before Succaneers was launched?
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Succaneers is a pipe-dream.
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by EminenceFront on Nov 12, 2009 2:21 PM EST up reply actions
THIS JUST IN:
SRQ gets a text message alert when the “HOT NOW” sign lights up at the local Krispy Kreme.
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by PriceMultiCyYoungs on Nov 12, 2009 2:21 PM EST reply actions
Immediately followed by the hint of the tiniest chub
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Just playin' man.
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by PriceMultiCyYoungs on Nov 12, 2009 3:42 PM EST up reply actions
RIP POW.
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by PriceMultiCyYoungs on Nov 12, 2009 2:23 PM EST reply actions
Apparently if you take a nap in a ditch you start getting declared this and that.
Officially now the head of the Lobstein bandwagon.
Your comedy level right now is higher than the pregnancy rate of Detroit's inner-city teens.
by R.J. Anderson on Nov 12, 2009 2:29 PM EST up reply actions
Former DRB writer Jake Larsen now doing his thing as a Bowling Green correspondant or raysprospects
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Bowling Green is my home town.
Haven’t been back to catch a game yet, but a Hot Rods game is supposedly a pretty good time according to my friends from high school and college that still reside there.
"Three or four plane crashes and we're in the playoffs" - John McKay
**LeeCaz also does home town name search on Draysbay**
"Three or four plane crashes and we're in the playoffs" - John McKay
DamnU
If the thread got any slower I was going to summon you
Nevin Ashley updates, LeeCaz bait… I guess I’m out of tricks
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Go try your hand at the caption contest on Buc'Em
If you’re that bored. We could use some funny ones. Craig T put in a fairly good one, but the rest are kinda lame so far..
"Three or four plane crashes and we're in the playoffs" - John McKay
What's it about?
School-related block
Why do you kill threads????
by Some other guy who does not care on Nov 12, 2009 3:14 PM EST up reply actions
It is the picture
of Raheem getting gatorade dumped on him.
Or did you mean what is his caption about?
"Three or four plane crashes and we're in the playoffs" - John McKay
If it were my caption I'd put:
“DON’T BE WASTIN’ MY PURPLE DR….Oh wait, it’s yellow nm”
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by EminenceFront on Nov 12, 2009 3:24 PM EST up reply actions
Man,
I would have hooked you up had I noticed. I was giving them out pretty freely.
"Three or four plane crashes and we're in the playoffs" - John McKay
They were being pretty stingy (sp?)
with the Recs man. I guess everybody wants theirs to win, so they aren’t Reccing other people’s captions.
"Three or four plane crashes and we're in the playoffs" - John McKay
FreeZo needs not your charity
Some day I will earn a Rec the hard way over there.
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You got a legit Rec out of that one.
Not too bad.
"Three or four plane crashes and we're in the playoffs" - John McKay
You got one as well.
Did we ever decide if we were taking ourselves out of competition?
"Three or four plane crashes and we're in the playoffs" - John McKay
Makes no difference to me. Probably better to just open it up to community.
They can Rec us all they want, but gives them an incentive to participate.
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So while you Sally's have been over here having a little limp-wristed slap fight, I've got something for ya's.
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by Andy Hellicksonstine on Nov 12, 2009 2:46 PM EST reply actions
Got that?
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by Andy Hellicksonstine on Nov 12, 2009 2:49 PM EST up reply actions
Soon to be a bigger post, hopefully, but check these smitches out
by Andy Hellicksonstine on Nov 12, 2009 2:49 PM EST up reply actions
The Table tab will be of most use I imagine
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by Andy Hellicksonstine on Nov 12, 2009 2:50 PM EST up reply actions
Alright I fudged up the PA in that previous one. Here is the ALE using the AL as a baseline
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by Andy Hellicksonstine on Nov 12, 2009 3:10 PM EST reply actions
Stupid fat catcher.
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by EminenceFront on Nov 12, 2009 3:15 PM EST up reply actions
Well we have the second best position in the division - 3B
2nd best SS, Best LF, but yeah 1B, RF, & CF are pretty average, With catcher and DH being complete black holes
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by Andy Hellicksonstine on Nov 12, 2009 3:17 PM EST up reply actions
Do injuries count towards WAR?
Why do you kill threads????
by Some other guy who does not care on Nov 12, 2009 3:18 PM EST up reply actions
So Ben Zobrist
is better than Brian Roberts but not Cano, Pedroia, and Hill- Urgh.
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by Some other guy who does not care on Nov 12, 2009 3:16 PM EST up reply actions
Good point
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by Some other guy who does not care on Nov 12, 2009 3:18 PM EST up reply actions
The Orioles 2B (remember this is everyone that played the position for the year, not just the big name guy) got
done in by defense. As FreeZo said, Zobie was everywhere.
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by Andy Hellicksonstine on Nov 12, 2009 3:18 PM EST up reply actions
Using MLB as the baseline, pretty much everybody in the AL gets a small bump up
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by Andy Hellicksonstine on Nov 12, 2009 3:22 PM EST up reply actions
Xxxxxx xxx xxxxxxx.
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by EminenceFront on Nov 12, 2009 3:23 PM EST up reply actions
How hard would it be to remove Zo's contributions and pro-rate the positions according to the other players?
Curious to see how RF and 2B stack up without him
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Hold on
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by Andy Hellicksonstine on Nov 12, 2009 3:27 PM EST up reply actions
Actually it would take some doing to get the wOBA right UZR would be easy enough
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by Andy Hellicksonstine on Nov 12, 2009 3:29 PM EST up reply actions
Yeah I'm not going to bother, but I can shoot you the workbooks
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by Andy Hellicksonstine on Nov 12, 2009 3:34 PM EST up reply actions
Is this the right way to do it?
Take the remaining players at the position and weight their % of the new total playing time. Then divide RAA/games played * 162 * % of playing time>?
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I would find his splits by position on B-ref, subtract that out from the positional offensive statistics,
and then either pro-rate the rest of the games at league average or just leave them out and figure the wOBA based on the new (lower) number of plate appearances. I think this makes sense, but I may have missed a step.
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by Andy Hellicksonstine on Nov 12, 2009 3:47 PM EST up reply actions
you can get RAA on fangraphs by position
Just use the position filter while on the team setting
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That's an option, I found it easier to do it team-wide the way I did
No park adjustments, it’s a WIP, but I probably won’t do that unless this turns into something bigger than on a whim.
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by Andy Hellicksonstine on Nov 12, 2009 3:54 PM EST up reply actions
I don't think you can just subtract out the wRAA, because my positional adjustments are inherent
based on wOBAposition v. leaguewOBAposition
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by Andy Hellicksonstine on Nov 12, 2009 3:57 PM EST up reply actions
Just taking out Zobie, without prorating I've got this for the new wOBA's
0.281
0.356
0.208
0.382
0.380
0.362
0.312
0.309
0.322
leading to this for the new wRAAal:
-21.0
-1.4
-78.6
25.5
33.6
10.1
-9.5
-23.9
-11.5
Taking a look at UZR now
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by Andy Hellicksonstine on Nov 12, 2009 4:11 PM EST up reply actions
Here's the table without Zobie
Split Rays Yankees Red Sox Orioles Jays
as C -2.1 1.0 0.6 0.8 -2.5
as 1B -0.6 2.6 1.7 -2.4 -0.3
as 2B -7.9 1.7 2.8 0.5 1.7
as 3B 4.5 1.2 1.2 -1.6 0.9
as SS 2.9 4.9 -1.0 -1.2 2.1
as LF 2.6 0.9 2.1 -0.2 0.1
as CF 0.0 0.7 -1.0 0.4 -2.0
as RF -1.6 0.7 3.0 -0.3 -0.9
as DH -1.2 2.0 -0.1 -0.3 1.4
Total -3.3 15.5 9.3 -4.4 0.5
I emailed you the original book and now I’m sending over this one if you feel like pro-rating a league average player in. Zobrist was the only guy to play 2B and hit a dinger last year, crazy.
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by Andy Hellicksonstine on Nov 12, 2009 4:15 PM EST up reply actions
P.S. it's pretty rushed so I wouldn't doubt I've made some mistakes in my haste
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by Andy Hellicksonstine on Nov 12, 2009 4:24 PM EST up reply actions
at 2B I came up with a non-park adjsuted wRAA of 4.03 without Zo
I used each players total wRAA/total PA. I then figured out each players % of non-Zo PAs at 2nd base and applied that to the full teams 2B PA. I then multiplied this figure by the wRAA/PA. Team wRAA at 2B without Zo came out to 4.03. This figure would need to be park adjusted to do it correctly.
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and I suppose to compare across other teams 2B you would not need to do positional adjustments. Really it would just need defense right?
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Right, it's across position, so no need for positional adjustments, I wasn't sure
how to figure replacement value so that is now included as well.
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by Andy Hellicksonstine on Nov 12, 2009 4:27 PM EST up reply actions
If we are comparing across positions couldn't we leave that out as well?
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That's basically what I figured, but I thought I should mention it.
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by Andy Hellicksonstine on Nov 12, 2009 4:29 PM EST up reply actions
This feels liek 2 hamsters in a lab experiment trying to find the end of the maze
in totally different fashion
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Yeah I'm going to make a fanpost of it tomorrow or hopefully FP it Saturday
That should allow me the forum to explain myself.
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by Andy Hellicksonstine on Nov 12, 2009 4:34 PM EST up reply actions
Offensive positional wRAA without Zo
2b 4.03
RF -7.29
Remember these are not park adjusted.
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I just finished the entire AL, but frankly I'm too drunk to post about it
Same with top 5 starts of the year, maybe tomorrow.
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by Andy Hellicksonstine on Nov 12, 2009 7:51 PM EST up reply actions
I'm jealous
I’m sitting in the living room still as a painting praying neither the 2 month old or the 3 year old wake up until Mrs. FreeZo gets home from Girls Night Out. 3 yr old would be fine except there would be a 0% chance of her not waking the baby.
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I found some Railbender Ale's that are shutting me up pretty good
I’m not saying, I’m just saying. How sad is it that I miss the Rays so much that I have had to resort to watching games on mlb.tv from earlier in the year. On tonight’s docket, 4/30 vs. Red Sox
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by Andy Hellicksonstine on Nov 12, 2009 8:34 PM EST up reply actions
In case you didn't refresh
http://host.madison.com/app/interactive/sacktracker/
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by Some other guy who does not care on Nov 12, 2009 3:19 PM EST reply actions
Holy Geez
I just went over to the 49ers blog, cuz I still can’t figure out who I’m gonna pick tonight, and one of the writers over there referenced this site www.profootballfocus.com I just visited for a minute but it seems crazy. They evaluate every player on every play of every game. It is the mother lode.
"Three or four plane crashes and we're in the playoffs" - John McKay
Wow nicely done, thanks
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by Andy Hellicksonstine on Nov 12, 2009 4:34 PM EST up reply actions
Get your nose out of Lee Kaz's ass
jackass
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by Andy Hellicksonstine on Nov 12, 2009 4:39 PM EST up reply actions
yeah, it is nice
It seems to take them awhile to get the games up though. They still don’t have the evaluation of the TB/GB game on there, so who knows how long it takes? I can imagine quite awhile to go through all that film on every single player.
"Three or four plane crashes and we're in the playoffs" - John McKay
I've read the Niners site a bit.
One of their writers did a nice series on QB drafts that I found interesting.
http://www.ninersnation.com/2008/10/28/648563/a-statistical-look-at-draf
by R.J. Anderson on Nov 12, 2009 4:41 PM EST up reply actions
That is a nice bit of info
but he was dead wrong on Harrell and Daniel. Either the LCF is baloney or those guys will make a Kurt Warner-like resurgence in the NFL one day.
Funny that Stafford and Sanchez are both listed in tier 3 and Freeman is not even listed.
Of course, the LCF could be right and the scouts could just be dumb. It’s not like Stafford or Sanchez have set the world on fire yet.
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