Don't Sleep on David Price
It sure seems strange to be writing this. A year ago, David Price was on the cover of every pre-season baseball preview. The former #1 overall pick's triumphant pose following the 2008 ALCS was etched into history and people were projecting him as the 2009 staff ace. DRaysBay urged caution with the two-pitch lefthander, but when Price began the season in Durham, fans mercilessly were calling the Rays cheap. Then, David Price debuted and he pretty much struck out or walked every batter while struggling to make it into the fifth inning. Meanwhile Jeff Niemann emerged as a surprise rookie of the year candidate along with Brett Anderson of Oakland and Rick Porcello of Detroit. Very quietly, Price seemed to reinvent himself over the 2nd half of the season, both walking and striking out fewer hitters. However, his ratio was improving as was his ground ball percentage. Over the final two months of the season, price finished with a GB% north of 44%. He also began throwing his changeup, his missing third pitch, with more frequency and greater confidence. The change actually ended the season as his top-ranked pitch according to linear weights Runs Above Average per 100 pitches at .88. Below is a comparison of the Tale of Two Prices:
|
FIP |
ERA |
BB/9 |
K/9 |
BA |
OBP |
SLG |
|
|
1st Half |
5.31 |
4.70 |
6.3 |
9.6 |
0.241 |
0.360 |
0.429 |
|
2nd Half |
4.37 |
4.27 |
2.5 |
5.9 |
0.241 |
0.296 |
0.380 |
They profile like entirely different pitchers. Let's see how 2nd half Price fared against the seasonal numbers of Anderson, Porcello, and Niemann:
|
Age |
FIP |
xFIP |
ERA |
BB/9 |
K/9 |
BA |
OBP |
SLG |
GB% |
|
|
Rick Porcello |
20 |
4.77 |
4.52 |
3.96 |
2.7 |
4.7 |
0.267 |
0.323 |
0.416 |
54.2% |
|
Brett Anderson |
21 |
3.69 |
3.8 |
4.06 |
2.3 |
7.7 |
0.265 |
0.312 |
0.399 |
50.9% |
|
Jeff Niemann |
26 |
4.07 |
4.74 |
3.94 |
2.9 |
6.2 |
0.266 |
0.33 |
0.399 |
40.5% |
|
David Price |
24 |
4.59 |
4.72 |
4.42 |
3.8 |
7.2 |
0.241 |
0.319 |
0.397 |
41.5% |
|
Price 2nd half |
24 |
4.37 |
N/A |
4.27 |
2.5 |
5.9 |
0.241 |
0.296 |
0.380 |
N/A |
The three-pitch Price measures up nicely with the rest of this crowd. Of course, other rookies may also have improved as the season progressed. There's a bias that favors Porcello and Anderson in that they pitch more frequently against weaker hitters. Below you will see the average BB and K%'s of the teams in each division:
|
BB% |
K% |
K/BB |
|
|
AL East |
9.76% |
19.32% |
1.98 |
|
AL Central |
8.86% |
19.68% |
2.22 |
|
AL West |
8.13% |
19.95% |
2.45 |
There is a 1.63% difference between in walks between the AL East and West. This does not even take into account some of the hitter friendly ballparks of the East. What if we were to look at how each pitcher fared vs. each division sorted by FIP (small sample size alert)?:
|
FIP |
IP |
K/9 |
BB/9 |
|
|
Niemann AL Central |
3.13 |
54.4 |
7.11 |
1.49 |
|
Anderson AL Central |
3.18 |
45.4 |
8.13 |
2.38 |
|
Price AL Central |
3.27 |
29.3 |
9.22 |
3.69 |
|
Anderson AL West |
3.66 |
70 |
7.07 |
2.19 |
|
Anderson AL East |
4.18 |
51 |
7.94 |
2.29 |
|
Porcello Central |
4.56 |
77.3 |
4.54 |
2.45 |
|
Niemann AL East |
4.61 |
63.9 |
5.92 |
3.8 |
|
Niemann AL West |
4.72 |
47.3 |
5.71 |
3.04 |
|
Price AL West |
4.81 |
23.6 |
8.01 |
6.1 |
|
Price AL East |
4.93 |
57.7 |
6.24 |
2.96 |
|
Porcello East |
5.08 |
31.4 |
4.59 |
3.44 |
|
Porcello West |
5.91 |
38.4 |
5.39 |
2.34 |
77 innings in the weak Central saved Porcello as his FIP was north of 5 against the rest of the American League. The sensational Anderson clearly comes out the best as he was the top dog against the East and West, and placed 2nd in the Central. One important caveat: Each pitcher faced each team a different amount of times. Price was heavily penalized in the West with all 26.3 innings coming against Texas and Anaheim. Had he had the chance to face Seattle and/or Oakland, it is very likely he would have ranked higher.
I feel pretty comfortable projecting Price to rise to the top or at least alongside Anderson as the best pitcher in this crop. As he continues to gain confidence in his third offering and rediscover his prized slider, I would expect his K rate to improve again while maintaining a lower walk rate. Don't make the mistake of letting David Price be the forgotten man of the rotation.
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In this vein I decided to look at Edwin's 2009 FIP Divisional Splits
East 55.3 IP FIP 5.15
Cent 83.6 IP FIP 4.43
West 55 IP FIP 3.89
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by FreeZorilla on Nov 12, 2009 1:39 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
small sample size or Jackson would have sucked in 09
by RZ on Nov 12, 2009 3:57 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
You lost me
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by FreeZorilla on Nov 12, 2009 4:22 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
He's saying either Jackson had a SSS against ALE teams or he would've been atrocious if that FIP is an accurate measure of his 2009 performances versus East teams.
If he was with the Rays, of course.
by R.J. Anderson on Nov 12, 2009 4:36 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Seems in-line with the other pitchers above.
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by FreeZorilla on Nov 12, 2009 4:38 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
there is no doubt Edwin was handsomely reward for pitching in the anemic central
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by FreeZorilla on Nov 12, 2009 4:39 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
for the curious
I painfully corrected the pitch types for David Price and found the percentages used per start.

Notice the preference of the curve over the slider come September.
by RZ on Nov 12, 2009 5:24 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Thats awesome
Great job
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by FreeZorilla on Nov 12, 2009 5:42 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
One more before I finish it up for today
In play percentage on his fastball over the course of this season.

Batted balls could be added
by RZ on Nov 12, 2009 5:45 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I'd like to see this vs. velocity avg, of course not all pitch fx machines seem to be calibrated the same
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by FreeZorilla on Nov 12, 2009 6:04 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Started out with the slider, lost faith
Went to almost exclusively fastballs before biting the bullet and finding success.
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by FreeZorilla on Nov 12, 2009 5:44 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I wonder if Zaun had anything to do with it
he caught that September 14th game where the curve usage went up
by RZ on Nov 12, 2009 5:46 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
started throwing his two seamer in august and september
More groundballs, more success
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by Tommy Rancel on Nov 12, 2009 6:13 PM EST via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
Nice picture
I’m like sitting in a common area at USF and I heard the 2 guys behind me say “what the hell is he looking at”.
On topic, I’m actually impressed he didn’t struggle too badly against the AL West, which the team as a whole never seemed to sharp around.
by blackraven on Nov 12, 2009 2:18 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Price handled year 1 very very well
He was, like all first year pitchers learning on the fly and trying to get by. He sometimes just did whatever he could to keep his team in the game. He did an excellent job of that in the second half of the season. That means more than people give him credit for. He didn’t lose it, but kept his composure.
And now that year 1 is in the books, I expect to see him build off that. Many pitchers would be very pleased to do what Price did last year. And yet, for Price, this is only scratching the surface. With time that diamond in the rough will shine brightly.
by raysfaninminnesota on Nov 12, 2009 3:39 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
The thing that impresses me most
is Brett Anderson. Every time I see any type of comparison with Anderson and whoever, all I do is become more impressed with him. He’s only 21 and had a great year.
As for Price, I think he will be fine next year and should have a solid season. I would love it if he could keep his BB/9 around 2.5 and get his K/9 up to 7.5-8.00.
by ReyL on Nov 12, 2009 5:18 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
On Anderson
He got destroyed in a couple of his starts, raising all of his numbers across the board. Here is the FIP for his first 21 starts. I chose 21 because that is the last time I updated that workbook and yeah:
3.48
4.44
10.28
2.35
3.79
8.26
5.82
4.98
9.65
2.01
4.21
7.40
2.55
2.77
1.82
2.40
1.65
1.95
4.65
2.24
1.98
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by Andy Hellicksonstine on Nov 12, 2009 7:49 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
pretty crappy 2nd half
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by FreeZorilla on Nov 12, 2009 8:06 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Spike Curve?
So during one of last years telecasts they said that Price had a rough development of a spike curve going when he was down in Durham. Is there any truth to this claim or is it just a regular 12-6 curve? Cause watching Cliff Lee throw his NASTY spike curve in the world series was ridiculous. if Price could make his even half as good as Lee’s than he would be the best lefty in the AL for sure.
by Bluechips85 on Nov 13, 2009 12:45 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
Here's his FIP and wOBA by start, you can see that he really mellowed out after his 11th start. wOBA scale is on the right axis

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by Andy Hellicksonstine on Nov 13, 2009 10:48 AM EST reply actions 0 recs

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