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OTTOTD 11/3: The Swing Low, Sweet Chariot Edition

You know, Sicilians, are great liars. The best, in the world. I’m Sicilian. My father was the world heavyweight champion of Sicilian liars. From growing up with him, I learned the pantomime. There are seventeen different things a guy can do when he lies, to give himself away. A guy’s got seventeen pantomimes. A woman’s got twenty, guy’s got seventeen. But, if you know them, like you know your own face, they’d be lie detectors all to hell. Now, what we got here, is a little game of show-and-tell: You don’t wanna’ show me nothing, but you’re telling me everything. I know you know where they are. So. Tell me. Before I do some damage, that you won’t walk away from.


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What is wrong with this one SB Nation under Gawd today?

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by Andy Hellicksonstine on Nov 3, 2009 9:59 AM EST reply actions  

New format, supposed to improve loading times.

I, however, am seeing the opposite.

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by Buc Wild on Nov 3, 2009 10:03 AM EST up reply actions  

It is supposedly the first step of many to roll out a new look that is faster

I dont mind the look (takes some getting used to) but the load times arent much better.

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by Buc Wild on Nov 3, 2009 10:09 AM EST up reply actions  

We need something in that banner.

SRQ/Edna lip lock?

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by PlayOnWords on Nov 3, 2009 10:19 AM EST reply actions  

Might be time to get the spackle out and gussy this place up a little bit

Maybe get some curtains, perhaps a lamp.

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by Andy Hellicksonstine on Nov 3, 2009 10:23 AM EST up reply actions  

Asia poster.

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by PlayOnWords on Nov 3, 2009 10:24 AM EST up reply actions  

Why do you have the 6 million dollar man's boss?

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by Andy Hellicksonstine on Nov 3, 2009 10:26 AM EST up reply actions  

Thats Oscar Goldman.

Thats worth a lot of money. Thats much more valuable than Steve Austin

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by Buc Wild on Nov 3, 2009 10:30 AM EST up reply actions  

The tech team works hard.

I’m sure this is just a temporary glitch.

by R.J. Anderson on Nov 3, 2009 10:25 AM EST up reply actions  

Their code is scrappy.

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by PlayOnWords on Nov 3, 2009 10:34 AM EST up reply actions  

Since no one directly talked about the deal I looked at yesterday, where do you guys fall on a

Craw & Zaun for Matt Thornton & A. J. Pierzynski & John Ely + $2-3M in cash and maybe another throw-in?

I think that package is better than two draft picks and helps us fill our 2 biggest holes now (at an affordable price).

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by Andy Hellicksonstine on Nov 3, 2009 10:29 AM EST reply actions  

So you're saying we trade Craw for a reliever.

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by PlayOnWords on Nov 3, 2009 10:38 AM EST up reply actions  

2 years of a great, cheap reliever, 1 year of a catcher upgrade that allows us to keep our troubled Mexican, and

a future back-end starter that has tremendous makeup, a plus-plus change, and could someday fit in as an elite reliever.

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by Andy Hellicksonstine on Nov 3, 2009 10:40 AM EST up reply actions  

We're not going to get Brett Wallace for him or Jason Heyward or Mike Stanton

or any top-notch, can’t miss prospect. If we were, a deal already would have been struck. Instead of getting on the cusp talent, I would then look to upgrade now where we can. These guys make less than Carl combined, so we would still have a few mil to go out and get a Mike Gonzalez/Rafi Soriano type guy.

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by Andy Hellicksonstine on Nov 3, 2009 10:45 AM EST up reply actions  

Wrong.

Nobody can trade anyone til after the WS. So how can you say a deal would have already been struck? STRUCK YOU.

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by PlayOnWords on Nov 3, 2009 10:46 AM EST up reply actions  

Haha, you know what I mean

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by Andy Hellicksonstine on Nov 3, 2009 10:49 AM EST up reply actions  

I couldn't remember which one was the righty

With JP, Thornton, and a great righty we can play matchups, but not be completely dependent on them. The problem with all these pieces fitting together perfectly is that you end up with guys pitching when it is not their specialty i.e Wheeler to fly-ball hitters or Shouse to righties. You can only mask weaknesses so well.

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by Andy Hellicksonstine on Nov 3, 2009 10:48 AM EST up reply actions  

For how much?

You can get 2 years of Thornton for under 6M

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by Andy Hellicksonstine on Nov 3, 2009 10:52 AM EST up reply actions  

I don't know about Saito he's 39, I mean check this out

Not really a ton of innings for either of these guys, but Saito has been trending down in his K’s for 3 years now, while experiencing a slight uptick in bb’s and a big jump in homers this year. Soriano is all over, and probably not a lock for another very good year. The point is to get a righty that can dance in high-leverage and have a reasonable assurance of his health. I’m not sold on the Calero’s of the world and think even Mitch Talbot or Balfour could be that righty at a much lower cost.

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by Andy Hellicksonstine on Nov 3, 2009 10:59 AM EST up reply actions  

Link fail

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by Andy Hellicksonstine on Nov 3, 2009 11:00 AM EST up reply actions  

I'm not sure how you aren't sold on Calero/Benoit.

Some have Benoit pegged as a minor league deal anyways.

Also: Winston Abreu could be that guy too.

by R.J. Anderson on Nov 3, 2009 11:01 AM EST up reply actions  

I just hate injury cases because it's so much boom or bust

I know that we have to sort through a pile and would love to get both and every other guy possible to come to camp on a minor league deal to see who sticks. Balfour is an example that has played out well for us for two years. Izzy is the opposite end of the spectrum, he looked good for 9 innings, never to be heard from again.

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by Andy Hellicksonstine on Nov 3, 2009 11:04 AM EST up reply actions  

I understand that.

But if it’s 650K, who cares, right?

by R.J. Anderson on Nov 3, 2009 11:06 AM EST up reply actions  

Stu might after 2-3 flame outs

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by Andy Hellicksonstine on Nov 3, 2009 11:07 AM EST up reply actions  

It's still money that has to be paid when you could get someone that has

a higher probability of a) making it through a season and b) performing at a high level. Relievers are volatile, yes, but there it is still a function of probabilities and there are plenty of “good bets” out there.

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by Andy Hellicksonstine on Nov 3, 2009 11:10 AM EST up reply actions  

For practically nothing, sure

Over the last three years, of relievers with 100 IP, he is 51st in WPA/LI at 1.80. Dan Wheeler has a 1.75. If you could get him for a third of the cost I would love it, but if he wants 2M, and there’s no reason he shouldn’t demand it, then I don’t see him as a huge upgrade. LINk

PS Matt Thornton is 9th on that list

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by Andy Hellicksonstine on Nov 3, 2009 11:21 AM EST up reply actions  

Springer is an option we haven't discussed at all

We have to offer him arb anyway to get the picks, it wouldn’t be so bad if they reached an agreement. The guy was nails with the A’s last year.

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by Andy Hellicksonstine on Nov 3, 2009 11:25 AM EST up reply actions  

Why would we WANT to keep our troubled Mexican?

None of those guys sound like potential difference makers.

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by PlayOnWords on Nov 3, 2009 10:44 AM EST up reply actions  

Navi has talent, he just needs to be in better shape.

When he has hit well it’s because his body isn’t dog-tired from catching every game, because he’s in better shape. I wish he would just work out harder and run more in the off-season, because he isn’t as bad as his 2009. He’s still young and relatively cheap. We would only need him for 1-2 more seasons until Luke is ready to ass-kick for a living.

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by Andy Hellicksonstine on Nov 3, 2009 10:47 AM EST up reply actions  

I wish he had a bat made of super strong wood that also attracted leather spheres via some heretofore unknown property of gravity.

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by PlayOnWords on Nov 3, 2009 10:51 AM EST up reply actions  

You don't own the patent white hot genius.

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by PlayOnWords on Nov 3, 2009 10:53 AM EST up reply actions  

On the PR boards some guy made hissel' a sig in MSPaint of a toilet with red arrows drawn through the plumbing. In the bowl was written Bucs $$$

And exiting into the drainage was written ManU.

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by PlayOnWords on Nov 3, 2009 10:42 AM EST up reply actions  

I don't post there.

It’s the worst forum in the world.

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by PlayOnWords on Nov 3, 2009 10:45 AM EST up reply actions  

I find it enjoyable

Then again, I like to use facts to argue SternFan’s Knee jerk reactions when most ignore him.

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by FreeZorilla on Nov 3, 2009 10:46 AM EST up reply actions  

I'm actually doing research on the topic now.

Just because I think it’s extremely clear that kickers are like relievers. Fungible and highly volatile based on luck except on the margins.

by R.J. Anderson on Nov 3, 2009 10:47 AM EST up reply actions  

Does my Freeman argument not make sense?

All Im saying is the guy hasnt exactly wowed me with his work ethic and habits thus far. The result on Sunday will not prove or disprove that.

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by Buc Wild on Nov 3, 2009 10:47 AM EST reply actions  

old

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by PlayOnWords on Nov 3, 2009 10:54 AM EST up reply actions  

Try using this

You can either die the hero or live long enough to become the villain

by Andy Hellicksonstine on Nov 3, 2009 11:02 AM EST up reply actions  

I had the strangest fucking dream.

It was basically an entire Jurassic Park movie. And in the end, Phillip Rivers got his head and middle finger bitten off by a raptor in a helicopter.

Sign lady must die.

by EminenceFront on Nov 3, 2009 10:58 AM EST reply actions  

Was the raptor flying the choppah?

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by PlayOnWords on Nov 3, 2009 10:58 AM EST up reply actions  

Let off some steam

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by Andy Hellicksonstine on Nov 3, 2009 11:02 AM EST up reply actions  

Robert Muldoon is maybe the most underrated character in movies.

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by PlayOnWords on Nov 3, 2009 11:03 AM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Clever Girl

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by Andy Hellicksonstine on Nov 3, 2009 11:04 AM EST up reply actions  

I've got the soundtrack to JP on right now

and yes, I know that sounds nerdy.

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by Buc Wild on Nov 3, 2009 11:14 AM EST up reply actions  

Doesn't.

I have the sheet music bro. I used to play that shit in the club. It was an allegory for all the crazy old people that went there.

Sign lady must die.

by EminenceFront on Nov 3, 2009 11:17 AM EST up reply actions  

There are so many things wrong with this statement, I don't know where to begin.

On the other hand, Richard Attenborough’s scream when the raptors are coming through the glass… real? Digitally enhanced?

by Suttree on Nov 3, 2009 11:18 AM EST up reply actions  

What the fuck.

As an aside, I used to be able to play the main theme on the piano.

LADIES PLEASE I NEED SOME ROOM HERE.

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by PlayOnWords on Nov 3, 2009 11:20 AM EST up reply actions  

It was a country club and I was 17.

There were no girls there and I banked.

Sign lady must die.

by EminenceFront on Nov 3, 2009 11:21 AM EST up reply actions  

There actually serving drinks to these things.

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by Andy Hellicksonstine on Nov 3, 2009 11:22 AM EST up reply actions  

Wiki
in a deleted scene from The Lost World: Jurassic Park, it is stated that Robert Muldoon’s family received $12.6 million in a law suit regarding his death settlement.

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by PlayOnWords on Nov 3, 2009 11:25 AM EST up reply actions  

Robert Muldoon needs to be DRB's mascot.

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by PlayOnWords on Nov 3, 2009 11:26 AM EST up reply actions  

It was really wierd.

I remember a shit ton of raptors coming out of the bushes and the people I was with were staying still. The raptors ignored the people and started licking the tailpipe of a truck. Somebody yelled “there is sugar in the tailpipe” and then somebody grabbed a bag of sugar and threw it into the bushes where the raptors followed allowing us to escape.

Sign lady must die.

by EminenceFront on Nov 3, 2009 11:06 AM EST up reply actions  

None of this happened

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by Andy Hellicksonstine on Nov 3, 2009 11:08 AM EST up reply actions  

It was so epic.

I remember that the dinosaurs were such a problem that people moved out of the area and fenced it off like in District 9. I don’t remember the whole plot, just certain scenes. I kinda woke up after the Phillip Rivers thing and was like “WTF why did I just dream Phillip Rivers being eaten by a Velociraptor.”

Sign lady must die.

by EminenceFront on Nov 3, 2009 11:11 AM EST up reply actions  

What's gayer: your kicker kick or EF spinning John Williams to get the bitches crunk?

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by PlayOnWords on Nov 3, 2009 11:21 AM EST up reply actions  

It was on piano not as a DJ.

Probably didn’t make that clear. Meh.

Sign lady must die.

by EminenceFront on Nov 3, 2009 11:22 AM EST up reply actions  

I prefer it my way.

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by PlayOnWords on Nov 3, 2009 11:23 AM EST up reply actions  

Is it socially unacceptable to use "gay" in a derogatory fashion now?

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by PlayOnWords on Nov 3, 2009 12:02 PM EST up reply actions  

Dissed by his own kind.

It burns deep.

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by PlayOnWords on Nov 3, 2009 12:09 PM EST up reply actions  

That guy really hurt my feelings,.

All I wanted to do was commiserate about Spurs being Spurs and he would have no part of it.

by Suttree on Nov 3, 2009 12:13 PM EST up reply actions  

5-3, tied for third in my league with this upcoming game going against the other team tied for third.

QB: Hass
RB: Tomlinson
RB: Moats
RB/WR: DeSean Jackson
WR: Jeremy Maclin
WR: Nate Burleson
TE: Brent Celek
D/ST: 49ers
K: Kaeding

Bench:
Mendenhall
Slaton
Romo
Manningham

by Suttree on Nov 3, 2009 12:28 PM EST up reply actions  

I had Maclin on my bench this week in favor of Steve Smith.

Didn’t make a difference in the end.

I’m 4-4 after starting 2-4 (thanks to 1 and 2 pt losses) feeling good about this.

by R.J. Anderson on Nov 3, 2009 12:30 PM EST up reply actions  

I have a pretty awesome matchup.

I have Maclin, Jackson, Celek and my opponent (DRAYS BAY USER BJ THE BOSSMAN) has McNabb.

by Suttree on Nov 3, 2009 12:32 PM EST up reply actions  

I also just picked up my third loss

I lost a week by .4, but I was blown out pretty hard this week. My team for the most recent week:
McNabb
Lynch
P. Thomas
M. Bell
Fitzgerald
Austin
Holt
Daniels (AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH)
Packer D/ST
Prater
Lechler
New Orleans HC

Bench:
R. Moss (bye)
C. Johnson (bye)
F. Jackson (RB)
Bears D/ST
M. Stafford (just picked up, it’s a keeper league)
M. Floyd

It’s a 12 team league so I’m one of the better teams, the byes killed me this week.

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by Andy Hellicksonstine on Nov 3, 2009 12:35 PM EST up reply actions  

You gunna move LT?

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by Buc Wild on Nov 3, 2009 12:36 PM EST up reply actions  

Probably not. I've made a ton of moves, but I kind of like my team at the moment.

Mendenhall nor LT are particularly great plays this week, but between those two and whoever wins out in the Moats/Slaton battle should be solid enough to win weekly.

by Suttree on Nov 3, 2009 12:37 PM EST up reply actions  

I got rid of LT in my league.

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by Buc Wild on Nov 3, 2009 1:19 PM EST up reply actions  

WHAT A MAVERICK

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by Andy Hellicksonstine on Nov 3, 2009 1:21 PM EST up reply actions  

You might want to borrow some chapstick from someone

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by Andy Hellicksonstine on Nov 3, 2009 12:41 PM EST up reply actions  

What bugs are you dealing with?

The comment spacing and headline stuff has been fixed already. You may have to refresh the thread to get that fix though.

by R.J. Anderson on Nov 3, 2009 12:52 PM EST up reply actions  

There is no longer any overlap issue with the logo. Perhaps this is what they implemented and it

just doesn’t look as good, I’m sure I’ll get used to it. In no way am I trying to disparage the hand that feeds us children.

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by Andy Hellicksonstine on Nov 3, 2009 12:57 PM EST up reply actions  

It's ok Rodj I appreciate the help you are offering

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by Andy Hellicksonstine on Nov 3, 2009 1:00 PM EST up reply actions  

Whatever you say ya Fidel-lover

WHY DON’T YOU JUST MOVE TO CUBA IF YOU LIKE IT SO MUCH, YOU CAN DRIVE A 1950’S VW AND ENJOY THE BEST HEALTH CARE IN THE WESTERN HEMISPHERE.

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by Andy Hellicksonstine on Nov 3, 2009 1:03 PM EST up reply actions  

I don't doubt this
He’s someone I can get behind and punish

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by Buc Wild on Nov 3, 2009 1:07 PM EST up reply actions  

What do you plan on doing behind him?

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by Andy Hellicksonstine on Nov 3, 2009 1:08 PM EST up reply actions  

You can run it on Thursday in place of me if you like

I’m too enthralled with my Rays Tree progress, writing a get me over piece is my alternative

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by FreeZorilla on Nov 3, 2009 12:51 PM EST up reply actions  

I'm immediately tweeting this to everyone I know

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by Andy Hellicksonstine on Nov 3, 2009 1:04 PM EST up reply actions  

You can probably live off your stored fats for a good 2-3 years

fatty

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by Andy Hellicksonstine on Nov 3, 2009 12:55 PM EST up reply actions  

Hard to fight it

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by Andy Hellicksonstine on Nov 3, 2009 1:00 PM EST up reply actions  

I don't think they deliver outside this area

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by Andy Hellicksonstine on Nov 3, 2009 1:00 PM EST up reply actions  

Well, it's not that far from St. Pete, so I don't see why not.

We may have to wait a day for him to fly down here, but whatever.

by Suttree on Nov 3, 2009 1:03 PM EST up reply actions  

The view of the interior walls must be to die for

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by Andy Hellicksonstine on Nov 3, 2009 1:06 PM EST up reply actions  

You just won, I quit

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by Andy Hellicksonstine on Nov 3, 2009 1:19 PM EST up reply actions  

Reacharec.

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by PlayOnWords on Nov 3, 2009 1:29 PM EST up reply actions  

Ugh.

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by PlayOnWords on Nov 3, 2009 1:28 PM EST up reply actions  

I'll CC your god damned jaw, buttwipe.

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by PlayOnWords on Nov 3, 2009 1:31 PM EST up reply actions  

I will take a crap on a printed version of this story, sprinkle it with Miracle-Gro, plant a camellia, wait for it to boom, and then shoot it with a flamethrower.

And send you a tweetpic of it.

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by PlayOnWords on Nov 3, 2009 1:34 PM EST up reply actions  

BLOOM*

gaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah

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by PlayOnWords on Nov 3, 2009 1:34 PM EST up reply actions  

Don't you trot that shit out now.

WHAT YOU’VE DONE CAN NOT BE UNDONE.

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by PlayOnWords on Nov 3, 2009 1:35 PM EST up reply actions  

I'll take a copy now that it's completely out of proportion

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by Andy Hellicksonstine on Nov 3, 2009 1:36 PM EST up reply actions  

If this guy gets a copy, I'm done with this website.

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by PlayOnWords on Nov 3, 2009 1:38 PM EST up reply actions  

I'd have to die first. And that won't be easy, considering I made sweet bank cutting down gook invaders in Oregon.

With a butter knife and a public school-type beaded jump rope.

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by PlayOnWords on Nov 3, 2009 1:43 PM EST up reply actions  

Watch it with the racial slur there, Cletus.

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by PlayOnWords on Nov 3, 2009 1:36 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Apalled? I was really impressed.

I was ready to go with a lot of very inappropriate questions, but thought better of it.

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by PlayOnWords on Nov 3, 2009 1:37 PM EST up reply actions  

Well in theory he should be but in the organizations eyes Captain Kirk is Evan.

But B.J. Upton basically = Tyrus Thomas. People think he is stupid and lazy. He is super athletic and is improving but haters wanna hate.

by SRQman on Nov 3, 2009 1:32 PM EST up reply actions  

If anyone is BJ it's Jameer Nelson

Injuries, brilliant performances, swavor

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by Andy Hellicksonstine on Nov 3, 2009 1:40 PM EST up reply actions  

Re-read the stupid shit you wrote and tell me who's the idiot

Nobody gives a fuck about the Bulls on this site or any other. Go over there with this talk.

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by Andy Hellicksonstine on Nov 3, 2009 1:41 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

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by PlayOnWords on Nov 3, 2009 1:42 PM EST up reply actions  

Read this you idiot
It saddens me that I found a B.J. Upton comparison for the Bulls

and he will probably be gone after this year. :(

Key part

I found a B.J. Upton comparison for the Bulls

Fuck you.

by SRQman on Nov 3, 2009 1:42 PM EST up reply actions  

B. J. Upton plays baseball you tit.

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by Andy Hellicksonstine on Nov 3, 2009 1:43 PM EST up reply actions  

WELL HE'S PAID TO, ANYWAY.

/Heater’d

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by PlayOnWords on Nov 3, 2009 1:45 PM EST up reply actions  

Redick

Fights his own stereotypes

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by FreeZorilla on Nov 3, 2009 2:49 PM EST up reply actions  

3QC is awesome
Mmmm

Hype gets more clicks than reason, we all know this.

by eltharion_doa on Oct 29, 2009 6:20 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

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by Andy Hellicksonstine on Nov 3, 2009 1:47 PM EST reply actions  

Do they have an OTTOTD?

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by PlayOnWords on Nov 3, 2009 1:50 PM EST up reply actions  

I didn't say they were as awesome as us

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by Andy Hellicksonstine on Nov 3, 2009 1:52 PM EST up reply actions  

Watch your ass, bub.

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by PlayOnWords on Nov 3, 2009 1:54 PM EST up reply actions  

I like how they don't tolerate racists

FREE SPEACH is a myth. There is no such thing as 100% free speech. You cannot go into a movie theater and say "FIRE"!…"What? I have freedom of speach!" Bull. Doesnt work that way. Any real lawyer will tell you that.

by Top Gun Numba 1 on Nov 3, 2009 2:04 PM EST up reply actions  

Am I the only one who thinks the ultra realistic CGI shit that Zemeckis keeps doing (Polar Express, Beowulf, A Christmas Carol) is totally unappealing?

If you’re going to draw/render something to look exactly like the voice actor, who also happens to be an incredibly famous movie star, why not just shoot the fucking thing live action. I’d pay $12 to watch Jim Carrey play Ebenezer Scrooge, not him voice a kinda sorta pretty good yet spookily overpolished likeness.

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by PlayOnWords on Nov 3, 2009 1:49 PM EST reply actions  

EVERYONE'S REACTION TO THIS TOPIC

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by PlayOnWords on Nov 3, 2009 1:55 PM EST up reply actions  

MARC TOPIKIN HEARING FROM INDUSTRY SOURCE RAYS TRADING AKI

FREE SPEACH is a myth. There is no such thing as 100% free speech. You cannot go into a movie theater and say "FIRE"!…"What? I have freedom of speach!" Bull. Doesnt work that way. Any real lawyer will tell you that.

by Top Gun Numba 1 on Nov 3, 2009 2:15 PM EST reply actions  

LINK

http://blogs.tampabay.com/rays/2009/11/rays-working-on-iwamura-deal.html

FREE SPEACH is a myth. There is no such thing as 100% free speech. You cannot go into a movie theater and say "FIRE"!…"What? I have freedom of speach!" Bull. Doesnt work that way. Any real lawyer will tell you that.

by Top Gun Numba 1 on Nov 3, 2009 2:16 PM EST up reply actions  

ADMINS PLEASE RENAME ME TO D'AlCapone AlPacino Morris asap

FREE SPEACH is a myth. There is no such thing as 100% free speech. You cannot go into a movie theater and say "FIRE"!…"What? I have freedom of speach!" Bull. Doesnt work that way. Any real lawyer will tell you that.

by Top Gun Numba 1 on Nov 3, 2009 2:16 PM EST up reply actions  

Just start a new account

Although honestly I think you should go with Tre Cool

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by Andy Hellicksonstine on Nov 3, 2009 2:22 PM EST up reply actions  

Douchiest name ever

Somebody, somewhere convinced this guy to change his name to that. I applaud this man/woman/God.

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by Andy Hellicksonstine on Nov 3, 2009 2:24 PM EST up reply actions  

I don't think he needed convincing.

He strikes me as the kind of guy who thinks that his name is awesome.

Also, Billy: you’re pushing 40 and you have kids. Stop wearing eye makeup and writing songs about being a teenager, you fucking hack.

by Suttree on Nov 3, 2009 2:27 PM EST up reply actions  

Bold anti-greenday stance

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by Top Gun Numba 1 on Nov 3, 2009 2:28 PM EST up reply actions  

GREEN DAY ARE LIKE THE MUSICAL ZEMECKIS

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by PlayOnWords on Nov 3, 2009 2:28 PM EST up reply actions  

With those thighs, you could carry me to Miami.

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by PlayOnWords on Nov 3, 2009 2:30 PM EST up reply actions  

What the shit is a zwan?

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by Andy Hellicksonstine on Nov 3, 2009 2:28 PM EST up reply actions  

No.

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by PlayOnWords on Nov 3, 2009 2:30 PM EST up reply actions  

I'm off the Buc Em masthead for some reason.

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by Buc Wild on Nov 3, 2009 2:36 PM EST reply actions  

BUAHAHAHA.

Stern email forthcoming.

Sign lady must die.

by EminenceFront on Nov 3, 2009 2:36 PM EST up reply actions  

If this is at all my fault, I sincerely apologize.

It was an honest attempt at civil discourse. I actually foudn the debate refreshing rather compared to the standard Morris bashing or Freeman prognostications.

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by FreeZorilla on Nov 3, 2009 2:57 PM EST up reply actions  

I'm truly sorry that I didn't get a chance to read something of substance

Give me a heads up next time.

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by Andy Hellicksonstine on Nov 3, 2009 3:01 PM EST up reply actions  

I just got off the horn with Fidel

He’s pretty pleased with the thesis of your story, but he doesn’t appreciate the disrespect.

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by Andy Hellicksonstine on Nov 3, 2009 3:18 PM EST reply actions  

I'm at work, you maroon.

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by PlayOnWords on Nov 3, 2009 3:40 PM EST up reply actions  

Holy shit

What the fuck is with this formatting today?

2009 Rays Baseball: Welp.....we'll try again in 2010
2009 FSU Football: Bobby Bowden.........it's time to go
Christian Ponder has superpowers

by JMB on Nov 3, 2009 3:20 PM EST reply actions  

This thread died without P Brady today.

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by Buc Wild on Nov 3, 2009 3:51 PM EST reply actions  

So if I show up does it frankenstein?

Officially now the head of the Lobstein bandwagon.

by P Brady on Nov 3, 2009 3:55 PM EST up reply actions  

Is frankenstein when you poop in the tank of the toilet?

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by Andy Hellicksonstine on Nov 3, 2009 3:56 PM EST up reply actions  

That's an upper decker.

Officially now the head of the Lobstein bandwagon.

by P Brady on Nov 3, 2009 3:57 PM EST up reply actions  

BUT BEN GIBBARD.

Officially now the head of the Lobstein bandwagon.

by P Brady on Nov 3, 2009 4:23 PM EST up reply actions  

Another one just came on I'm about to toss this laptop

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by Andy Hellicksonstine on Nov 3, 2009 4:32 PM EST up reply actions  

I don't want to really comment further, but this has to be one of the dumber things I've ever read
Thats why Im not a stat guy.

I WATCHED Gramatica WIN games for us, single handedly.
a number, say 78%, doesnt tell you anything.
When a FG was NEEDED, Gramatica nailed it through..even from 50+…
Check out Carolina game from 2002, Atlanta game from 1999, to name a few.

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by Andy Hellicksonstine on Nov 3, 2009 5:45 PM EST reply actions  

Hey GUYS

Remember when THIS happened?

How bout this Game WINNER?

Man that one was IN THE SNOW!!!!!!!!!!!

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by Andy Hellicksonstine on Nov 3, 2009 6:43 PM EST up reply actions  

YouTube comments are the best.
wow really brought gay to a new level pal

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by PlayOnWords on Nov 3, 2009 7:37 PM EST up reply actions  

The kick or the catch?

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by Andy Hellicksonstine on Nov 3, 2009 7:43 PM EST up reply actions  

The catch.

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by PlayOnWords on Nov 3, 2009 7:44 PM EST up reply actions  

Damn, its a shame this is going to get wasted on a dead OTTOTD

Who doesn’t remember this?

With this fantastic comment:

it sounded like he said ‘Matt Bryant fucks win!’

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by PlayOnWords on Nov 3, 2009 7:44 PM EST reply actions  

It's not wasted

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by Andy Hellicksonstine on Nov 3, 2009 7:50 PM EST up reply actions  

Kiss me now or lose me forever, DRB user "Andy Hellicksonstine".

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by PlayOnWords on Nov 3, 2009 7:56 PM EST up reply actions  

POW you big stud

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