OTTOTD 11/3: The Swing Low, Sweet Chariot Edition
You know, Sicilians, are great liars. The best, in the world. I’m Sicilian. My father was the world heavyweight champion of Sicilian liars. From growing up with him, I learned the pantomime. There are seventeen different things a guy can do when he lies, to give himself away. A guy’s got seventeen pantomimes. A woman’s got twenty, guy’s got seventeen. But, if you know them, like you know your own face, they’d be lie detectors all to hell. Now, what we got here, is a little game of show-and-tell: You don’t wanna’ show me nothing, but you’re telling me everything. I know you know where they are. So. Tell me. Before I do some damage, that you won’t walk away from.
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What is wrong with this one SB Nation under Gawd today?
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by Andy Hellicksonstine on Nov 3, 2009 9:59 AM EST reply actions
New format, supposed to improve loading times.
I, however, am seeing the opposite.
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It is supposedly the first step of many to roll out a new look that is faster
I dont mind the look (takes some getting used to) but the load times arent much better.
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I posted an article relating to the Bucs on there that got deleted, apparently it didn't have enough pissing and moaning in it.
Ya, it was a link to an article about DeBartolo's comments. I'll admit, it wasn't ground breaking stuff, but I thought it was at least worthy of a little fanpost. :)
I’m not worried about it though, just thought it was funny.
The women of St. Pete are also stunned that the man they call Suttree didn't match his boast.
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We need something in that banner.
SRQ/Edna lip lock?
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Might be time to get the spackle out and gussy this place up a little bit
Maybe get some curtains, perhaps a lamp.
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by Andy Hellicksonstine on Nov 3, 2009 10:23 AM EST up reply actions
Asia poster.
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Why do you have the 6 million dollar man's boss?
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by Andy Hellicksonstine on Nov 3, 2009 10:26 AM EST up reply actions
Thats Oscar Goldman.
Thats worth a lot of money. Thats much more valuable than Steve Austin
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The tech team works hard.
I’m sure this is just a temporary glitch.
by R.J. Anderson on Nov 3, 2009 10:25 AM EST up reply actions
Their code is scrappy.
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Since no one directly talked about the deal I looked at yesterday, where do you guys fall on a
Craw & Zaun for Matt Thornton & A. J. Pierzynski & John Ely + $2-3M in cash and maybe another throw-in?
I think that package is better than two draft picks and helps us fill our 2 biggest holes now (at an affordable price).
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by Andy Hellicksonstine on Nov 3, 2009 10:29 AM EST reply actions
You're asking me to trade Zaun this quickly?
by R.J. Anderson on Nov 3, 2009 10:35 AM EST up reply actions
Yeah, get Andy on the horn.
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by Andy Hellicksonstine on Nov 3, 2009 10:37 AM EST up reply actions
So you're saying we trade Craw for a reliever.
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2 years of a great, cheap reliever, 1 year of a catcher upgrade that allows us to keep our troubled Mexican, and
a future back-end starter that has tremendous makeup, a plus-plus change, and could someday fit in as an elite reliever.
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by Andy Hellicksonstine on Nov 3, 2009 10:40 AM EST up reply actions
We're not going to get Brett Wallace for him or Jason Heyward or Mike Stanton
or any top-notch, can’t miss prospect. If we were, a deal already would have been struck. Instead of getting on the cusp talent, I would then look to upgrade now where we can. These guys make less than Carl combined, so we would still have a few mil to go out and get a Mike Gonzalez/Rafi Soriano type guy.
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by Andy Hellicksonstine on Nov 3, 2009 10:45 AM EST up reply actions
Wrong.
Nobody can trade anyone til after the WS. So how can you say a deal would have already been struck? STRUCK YOU.
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Haha, you know what I mean
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by Andy Hellicksonstine on Nov 3, 2009 10:49 AM EST up reply actions
Matt Thornton makes Mike Gonzalez irrelevant.
by R.J. Anderson on Nov 3, 2009 10:46 AM EST up reply actions
I couldn't remember which one was the righty
With JP, Thornton, and a great righty we can play matchups, but not be completely dependent on them. The problem with all these pieces fitting together perfectly is that you end up with guys pitching when it is not their specialty i.e Wheeler to fly-ball hitters or Shouse to righties. You can only mask weaknesses so well.
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by Andy Hellicksonstine on Nov 3, 2009 10:48 AM EST up reply actions
For how much?
You can get 2 years of Thornton for under 6M
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by Andy Hellicksonstine on Nov 3, 2009 10:52 AM EST up reply actions
I don't know about Saito he's 39, I mean check this out

Not really a ton of innings for either of these guys, but Saito has been trending down in his K’s for 3 years now, while experiencing a slight uptick in bb’s and a big jump in homers this year. Soriano is all over, and probably not a lock for another very good year. The point is to get a righty that can dance in high-leverage and have a reasonable assurance of his health. I’m not sold on the Calero’s of the world and think even Mitch Talbot or Balfour could be that righty at a much lower cost.
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by Andy Hellicksonstine on Nov 3, 2009 10:59 AM EST up reply actions
Link fail

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by Andy Hellicksonstine on Nov 3, 2009 11:00 AM EST up reply actions
I'm not sure how you aren't sold on Calero/Benoit.
Some have Benoit pegged as a minor league deal anyways.
Also: Winston Abreu could be that guy too.
by R.J. Anderson on Nov 3, 2009 11:01 AM EST up reply actions
I just hate injury cases because it's so much boom or bust
I know that we have to sort through a pile and would love to get both and every other guy possible to come to camp on a minor league deal to see who sticks. Balfour is an example that has played out well for us for two years. Izzy is the opposite end of the spectrum, he looked good for 9 innings, never to be heard from again.
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by Andy Hellicksonstine on Nov 3, 2009 11:04 AM EST up reply actions
I understand that.
But if it’s 650K, who cares, right?
by R.J. Anderson on Nov 3, 2009 11:06 AM EST up reply actions
Stu might after 2-3 flame outs
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by Andy Hellicksonstine on Nov 3, 2009 11:07 AM EST up reply actions
It's still money that has to be paid when you could get someone that has
a higher probability of a) making it through a season and b) performing at a high level. Relievers are volatile, yes, but there it is still a function of probabilities and there are plenty of “good bets” out there.
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by Andy Hellicksonstine on Nov 3, 2009 11:10 AM EST up reply actions
For practically nothing, sure
Over the last three years, of relievers with 100 IP, he is 51st in WPA/LI at 1.80. Dan Wheeler has a 1.75. If you could get him for a third of the cost I would love it, but if he wants 2M, and there’s no reason he shouldn’t demand it, then I don’t see him as a huge upgrade. LINk
PS Matt Thornton is 9th on that list
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by Andy Hellicksonstine on Nov 3, 2009 11:21 AM EST up reply actions
I like Matt Thornton.
And Russ Springer.
by R.J. Anderson on Nov 3, 2009 11:22 AM EST up reply actions
Springer is an option we haven't discussed at all
We have to offer him arb anyway to get the picks, it wouldn’t be so bad if they reached an agreement. The guy was nails with the A’s last year.
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by Andy Hellicksonstine on Nov 3, 2009 11:25 AM EST up reply actions
Why would we WANT to keep our troubled Mexican?
None of those guys sound like potential difference makers.
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Navi has talent, he just needs to be in better shape.
When he has hit well it’s because his body isn’t dog-tired from catching every game, because he’s in better shape. I wish he would just work out harder and run more in the off-season, because he isn’t as bad as his 2009. He’s still young and relatively cheap. We would only need him for 1-2 more seasons until Luke is ready to ass-kick for a living.
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by Andy Hellicksonstine on Nov 3, 2009 10:47 AM EST up reply actions
Whoever spun the ST cliche wheel is turrible
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by Andy Hellicksonstine on Nov 3, 2009 10:50 AM EST up reply actions
The only shape he was in was round and on top of that he was acting like a baby for not getting an
extra 200K in arbitration. I think someone needs to get Jeff Gilloley on the line for that agent of is.
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by Andy Hellicksonstine on Nov 3, 2009 10:53 AM EST up reply actions
I wish he had a bat made of super strong wood that also attracted leather spheres via some heretofore unknown property of gravity.
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You don't own the patent white hot genius.
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You hate him because he's a dick, but when he's our dick we could use him to fuck all those pussies
Think about it.
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by Andy Hellicksonstine on Nov 3, 2009 10:41 AM EST up reply actions
Drays Bay user "PlaysOnWords" may have mentioned you're 6-4 ram-rod body at some point.
I don’t know, all the gayness was overwhelming.
The smartest decision I've ever made was to refuse to go to that site.
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by Andy Hellicksonstine on Nov 3, 2009 10:41 AM EST up reply actions
On the PR boards some guy made hissel' a sig in MSPaint of a toilet with red arrows drawn through the plumbing. In the bowl was written Bucs $$$
And exiting into the drainage was written ManU.
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I would say, why don't you point out the whole exchange rates factor, but I don't think anyone would get it.
by R.J. Anderson on Nov 3, 2009 10:44 AM EST up reply actions
I don't post there.
It’s the worst forum in the world.
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I find it enjoyable
Then again, I like to use facts to argue SternFan’s Knee jerk reactions when most ignore him.
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I'm actually doing research on the topic now.
Just because I think it’s extremely clear that kickers are like relievers. Fungible and highly volatile based on luck except on the margins.
by R.J. Anderson on Nov 3, 2009 10:47 AM EST up reply actions
Drew does a FJM on Simmons' most recent NFL column:
http://kissingsuzykolber.uproxx.com/2009/11/fun-with%E2%80%A6-bill-simmons.html#more-20805
It’s good stuff, particularly since Simmons is completely insufferable when he talks about gambling.
Does my Freeman argument not make sense?
All Im saying is the guy hasnt exactly wowed me with his work ethic and habits thus far. The result on Sunday will not prove or disprove that.
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I didn't read it, but I'm going to assume it makes sense and the other people involved in it (I hope it's Lee Casssssss) just suck.
You leave my foil alone
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by Andy Hellicksonstine on Nov 3, 2009 11:01 AM EST up reply actions
Oh and since Dave H seems pretty modest these days, here's a link to his top-111 prospects over at Sickels' site
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by Andy Hellicksonstine on Nov 3, 2009 10:51 AM EST reply actions
old
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Try using this

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by Andy Hellicksonstine on Nov 3, 2009 11:02 AM EST up reply actions
Mike Smith isn't quite right in the head.
by R.J. Anderson on Nov 3, 2009 10:56 AM EST up reply actions
He sucks.
Nittymaki deserves to start.
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by EminenceFront on Nov 3, 2009 10:57 AM EST up reply actions
I had the strangest fucking dream.
It was basically an entire Jurassic Park movie. And in the end, Phillip Rivers got his head and middle finger bitten off by a raptor in a helicopter.
Sign lady must die.
Was the raptor flying the choppah?
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And did the Muldoon-esque character throw a knife through a raptor's chest and tell him to stick around?
Let off some steam
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by Andy Hellicksonstine on Nov 3, 2009 11:02 AM EST up reply actions
Muldoon was my favorite character in the books and the movie.
In the books he lived, in the movie he didn’t :(
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by EminenceFront on Nov 3, 2009 11:03 AM EST up reply actions
In the book he was a drunk and blew a raptor's leg off with a rocket launcher.
Which was awesome.
However, the movie did give us the Clever girl scene.
SHHH QUIET! ALL OF YOU
THEY’RE APPROACHING THE TYRANNOSAUR PADDOCK
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by EminenceFront on Nov 3, 2009 11:07 AM EST up reply actions
I thought it was weak sauce how they had the Pete Pistelwhite character in Lost World to make up for the fact that they killed of Muldoon.
Is that Vince Vaughns character?
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by EminenceFront on Nov 3, 2009 11:11 AM EST up reply actions
OOO You mean the other hunter guy. Roland.
Yeah. He was decent but not as great as Muldoon.
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by EminenceFront on Nov 3, 2009 11:14 AM EST up reply actions
Robert Muldoon is maybe the most underrated character in movies.
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by PlayOnWords on Nov 3, 2009 11:03 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Clever Girl
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by Andy Hellicksonstine on Nov 3, 2009 11:04 AM EST up reply actions
They show extraordinary intelligence, even problem-solving. Especially the big one. We bred eight originally, but when she came in she took over the pride and killed all but two of the others.
That one… when she looks at you, you can tell she’s working
Jurassic Park is my movie, yo.
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by EminenceFront on Nov 3, 2009 11:13 AM EST up reply actions
I've got the soundtrack to JP on right now
and yes, I know that sounds nerdy.
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Doesn't.
I have the sheet music bro. I used to play that shit in the club. It was an allegory for all the crazy old people that went there.
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by EminenceFront on Nov 3, 2009 11:17 AM EST up reply actions
There are so many things wrong with this statement, I don't know where to begin.
On the other hand, Richard Attenborough’s scream when the raptors are coming through the glass… real? Digitally enhanced?
What the fuck.
As an aside, I used to be able to play the main theme on the piano.
LADIES PLEASE I NEED SOME ROOM HERE.
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It was a country club and I was 17.
There were no girls there and I banked.
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by EminenceFront on Nov 3, 2009 11:21 AM EST up reply actions
There actually serving drinks to these things.
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by Andy Hellicksonstine on Nov 3, 2009 11:22 AM EST up reply actions
Wiki
in a deleted scene from The Lost World: Jurassic Park, it is stated that Robert Muldoon’s family received $12.6 million in a law suit regarding his death settlement.
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Robert Muldoon needs to be DRB's mascot.
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Interesting. I can see why they cut it out.
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by EminenceFront on Nov 3, 2009 11:26 AM EST up reply actions
It was really wierd.
I remember a shit ton of raptors coming out of the bushes and the people I was with were staying still. The raptors ignored the people and started licking the tailpipe of a truck. Somebody yelled “there is sugar in the tailpipe” and then somebody grabbed a bag of sugar and threw it into the bushes where the raptors followed allowing us to escape.
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by EminenceFront on Nov 3, 2009 11:06 AM EST up reply actions
None of this happened
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by Andy Hellicksonstine on Nov 3, 2009 11:08 AM EST up reply actions
It was so epic.
I remember that the dinosaurs were such a problem that people moved out of the area and fenced it off like in District 9. I don’t remember the whole plot, just certain scenes. I kinda woke up after the Phillip Rivers thing and was like “WTF why did I just dream Phillip Rivers being eaten by a Velociraptor.”
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by EminenceFront on Nov 3, 2009 11:11 AM EST up reply actions
District 9 would have been a lot better if they had used raptors instead of aliens
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by Andy Hellicksonstine on Nov 3, 2009 11:24 AM EST up reply actions
It would just end up being a Turok: The Movie.
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by EminenceFront on Nov 3, 2009 11:25 AM EST up reply actions
With some whiny British pissant instead of a proud Indian warrior
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by Andy Hellicksonstine on Nov 3, 2009 11:27 AM EST up reply actions
What's gayer: your kicker kick or EF spinning John Williams to get the bitches crunk?
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It was on piano not as a DJ.
Probably didn’t make that clear. Meh.
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by EminenceFront on Nov 3, 2009 11:22 AM EST up reply actions
I prefer it my way.
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Being a DJ would have been cooler.
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by EminenceFront on Nov 3, 2009 11:24 AM EST up reply actions
Is it socially unacceptable to use "gay" in a derogatory fashion now?
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Dissed by his own kind.
It burns deep.
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That guy really hurt my feelings,.
All I wanted to do was commiserate about Spurs being Spurs and he would have no part of it.
I believe today is the day where we all discuss our fantasy teams.
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5-3, tied for third in my league with this upcoming game going against the other team tied for third.
QB: Hass
RB: Tomlinson
RB: Moats
RB/WR: DeSean Jackson
WR: Jeremy Maclin
WR: Nate Burleson
TE: Brent Celek
D/ST: 49ers
K: Kaeding
Bench:
Mendenhall
Slaton
Romo
Manningham
I had Maclin on my bench this week in favor of Steve Smith.
Didn’t make a difference in the end.
I’m 4-4 after starting 2-4 (thanks to 1 and 2 pt losses) feeling good about this.
by R.J. Anderson on Nov 3, 2009 12:30 PM EST up reply actions
I have a pretty awesome matchup.
I have Maclin, Jackson, Celek and my opponent (DRAYS BAY USER BJ THE BOSSMAN) has McNabb.
My running back match ups aren't particularly great either.
I fully expect to get ass raped and taken out of league contention.
I also just picked up my third loss
I lost a week by .4, but I was blown out pretty hard this week. My team for the most recent week:
McNabb
Lynch
P. Thomas
M. Bell
Fitzgerald
Austin
Holt
Daniels (AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH)
Packer D/ST
Prater
Lechler
New Orleans HC
Bench:
R. Moss (bye)
C. Johnson (bye)
F. Jackson (RB)
Bears D/ST
M. Stafford (just picked up, it’s a keeper league)
M. Floyd
It’s a 12 team league so I’m one of the better teams, the byes killed me this week.
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by Andy Hellicksonstine on Nov 3, 2009 12:35 PM EST up reply actions
I think it's based on point differential, win/loss, and something else
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by Andy Hellicksonstine on Nov 3, 2009 12:40 PM EST up reply actions
Yeah having head coaches in a league for the first time is the same as two men having sex
You’re right
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by Andy Hellicksonstine on Nov 3, 2009 12:49 PM EST up reply actions
We tried it out this year, the week that I lost by .3 NO was on a bye so I pick up Jax and they promptly get me -7
I was a little upset by that, but NO is getting me like 8-10 points a week.
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by Andy Hellicksonstine on Nov 3, 2009 12:39 PM EST up reply actions
Probably not. I've made a ton of moves, but I kind of like my team at the moment.
Mendenhall nor LT are particularly great plays this week, but between those two and whoever wins out in the Moats/Slaton battle should be solid enough to win weekly.
WHAT A MAVERICK
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by Andy Hellicksonstine on Nov 3, 2009 1:21 PM EST up reply actions
You might want to borrow some chapstick from someone
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by Andy Hellicksonstine on Nov 3, 2009 12:41 PM EST up reply actions
I'm pretty sure SBN's tech team is the best part of the network.
by R.J. Anderson on Nov 3, 2009 12:43 PM EST up reply actions
I still have the same stuff going on, it's got to be pretty tough to make changes while having virutally no down time
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by Andy Hellicksonstine on Nov 3, 2009 12:50 PM EST up reply actions
What bugs are you dealing with?
The comment spacing and headline stuff has been fixed already. You may have to refresh the thread to get that fix though.
by R.J. Anderson on Nov 3, 2009 12:52 PM EST up reply actions
I've refreshed, closed and re-opened, and checked other SBN blogs and haven't seen a difference from this morning
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by Andy Hellicksonstine on Nov 3, 2009 12:54 PM EST up reply actions
There is no longer any overlap issue with the logo. Perhaps this is what they implemented and it
just doesn’t look as good, I’m sure I’ll get used to it. In no way am I trying to disparage the hand that feeds us children.
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by Andy Hellicksonstine on Nov 3, 2009 12:57 PM EST up reply actions
I was going to pass on any bugs you had, I'm not trying to force you to liking it or anything.
by R.J. Anderson on Nov 3, 2009 12:59 PM EST up reply actions
It's ok Rodj I appreciate the help you are offering
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by Andy Hellicksonstine on Nov 3, 2009 1:00 PM EST up reply actions
Whatever you say ya Fidel-lover
WHY DON’T YOU JUST MOVE TO CUBA IF YOU LIKE IT SO MUCH, YOU CAN DRIVE A 1950’S VW AND ENJOY THE BEST HEALTH CARE IN THE WESTERN HEMISPHERE.
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by Andy Hellicksonstine on Nov 3, 2009 1:03 PM EST up reply actions
Fidel read The Book.
He’s someone I can get behind.
by R.J. Anderson on Nov 3, 2009 1:06 PM EST up reply actions
I don't doubt this
He’s someone I can get behind and punish
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What do you plan on doing behind him?
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by Andy Hellicksonstine on Nov 3, 2009 1:08 PM EST up reply actions
I wrote a piece on baseball fans hating communism.
Think I’m shelving it. Despite one decent zinger.
I think I can make a compelling case that Fidel Castro is the best baseball fan in the world.
by R.J. Anderson on Nov 3, 2009 12:50 PM EST up reply actions
It wouldn't be hard
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by Andy Hellicksonstine on Nov 3, 2009 12:50 PM EST up reply actions
You can run it on Thursday in place of me if you like
I’m too enthralled with my Rays Tree progress, writing a get me over piece is my alternative
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It has a picture now too
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by EminenceFront on Nov 3, 2009 12:53 PM EST up reply actions
You may want to see a doctor. It could be a yeast infection...
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by EminenceFront on Nov 3, 2009 12:59 PM EST up reply actions
You're forcing me to add to this and posting it.
by R.J. Anderson on Nov 3, 2009 1:03 PM EST up reply actions
Erik called it interesting after he read it.
That’s usually a code for “God this sucks balls.”
by R.J. Anderson on Nov 3, 2009 1:05 PM EST up reply actions
You sound like my 3rd ex-wife
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by Andy Hellicksonstine on Nov 3, 2009 1:06 PM EST up reply actions
I didn't say anything about wanting to be strangled and abused while you wear a cowboy hat and pretend to be my father.
GD that Eunice
She always had a big mouth.
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by Andy Hellicksonstine on Nov 3, 2009 1:11 PM EST up reply actions
I'm immediately tweeting this to everyone I know
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by Andy Hellicksonstine on Nov 3, 2009 1:04 PM EST up reply actions
You can probably live off your stored fats for a good 2-3 years
fatty
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by Andy Hellicksonstine on Nov 3, 2009 12:55 PM EST up reply actions
I'm about to order some chinese I just can't decide on Kung Pow Chicken or Sesame
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by Andy Hellicksonstine on Nov 3, 2009 12:58 PM EST up reply actions
Hard to fight it
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by Andy Hellicksonstine on Nov 3, 2009 1:00 PM EST up reply actions
I don't think they deliver outside this area
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by Andy Hellicksonstine on Nov 3, 2009 1:00 PM EST up reply actions
Does he make trips to G-ville?
Sign lady must die.
by EminenceFront on Nov 3, 2009 1:02 PM EST up reply actions
Well, it's not that far from St. Pete, so I don't see why not.
We may have to wait a day for him to fly down here, but whatever.
You pay for the plane ticket and I will gladly hand deliver some delicious Kung Po Chicken to your
van down by the river
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by Andy Hellicksonstine on Nov 3, 2009 1:04 PM EST up reply actions
The view of the interior walls must be to die for
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by Andy Hellicksonstine on Nov 3, 2009 1:06 PM EST up reply actions
I tried to make friends with the rats, like in Cinderella.
But they didn’t clean shit – they just gave me legionnaire’s disease.
by Suttree on Nov 3, 2009 1:12 PM EST up reply actions 4 recs
You just won, I quit
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by Andy Hellicksonstine on Nov 3, 2009 1:19 PM EST up reply actions
Reacharec.
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Sutty, you wanna read this communism thing in case I decide to not post it?
If so, I’ll email it to you.
Ugh.
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I'll CC your god damned jaw, buttwipe.
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I will take a crap on a printed version of this story, sprinkle it with Miracle-Gro, plant a camellia, wait for it to boom, and then shoot it with a flamethrower.
And send you a tweetpic of it.
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BLOOM*
gaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah
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Don't you trot that shit out now.
WHAT YOU’VE DONE CAN NOT BE UNDONE.
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I'll take a copy now that it's completely out of proportion
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by Andy Hellicksonstine on Nov 3, 2009 1:36 PM EST up reply actions
If this guy gets a copy, I'm done with this website.
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Just because I'm new doesn't mean that I couldn't piss on your corpse
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by Andy Hellicksonstine on Nov 3, 2009 1:39 PM EST up reply actions
I'd have to die first. And that won't be easy, considering I made sweet bank cutting down gook invaders in Oregon.
With a butter knife and a public school-type beaded jump rope.
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Watch it with the racial slur there, Cletus.
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by PlayOnWords on Nov 3, 2009 1:36 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Apalled? I was really impressed.
I was ready to go with a lot of very inappropriate questions, but thought better of it.
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It saddens me that I found a B.J. Upton comparison for the Bulls
and he will probably be gone after this year. :(
Well in theory he should be but in the organizations eyes Captain Kirk is Evan.
But B.J. Upton basically = Tyrus Thomas. People think he is stupid and lazy. He is super athletic and is improving but haters wanna hate.
He gets screwed over because he needs to be out in the game to get used to game experiences.
Whoever gets him after this year will have a solid player who is improving.
I don't see anyone asking for TT's autograph, let alone being ignored after the request
Try harder.
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by Andy Hellicksonstine on Nov 3, 2009 1:37 PM EST up reply actions
Here's the problem, fatty.
TT is tall, black, in shape, and a millionaire.
You are fat and pathetic. You disgust everyone.
I've seen it before it happens all the time
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by Andy Hellicksonstine on Nov 3, 2009 1:41 PM EST up reply actions
If anyone is BJ it's Jameer Nelson
Injuries, brilliant performances, swavor
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by Andy Hellicksonstine on Nov 3, 2009 1:40 PM EST up reply actions
Re-read the stupid shit you wrote and tell me who's the idiot
Nobody gives a fuck about the Bulls on this site or any other. Go over there with this talk.
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by Andy Hellicksonstine on Nov 3, 2009 1:41 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
shiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiit.
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Read this you idiot
It saddens me that I found a B.J. Upton comparison for the Bulls
and he will probably be gone after this year. :(
Key part
I found a B.J. Upton comparison for the Bulls
Fuck you.
B. J. Upton plays baseball you tit.
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by Andy Hellicksonstine on Nov 3, 2009 1:43 PM EST up reply actions
WELL HE'S PAID TO, ANYWAY.
/Heater’d
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If you want to read some thing interesting about basket ball click the link below
http://deadspin.com/5392067/excerpts-from-the-book-the-nba-doesnt-want-you-to-read
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by Andy Hellicksonstine on Nov 3, 2009 1:51 PM EST up reply actions
3QC is awesome
Mmmm
Hype gets more clicks than reason, we all know this.
by eltharion_doa on Oct 29, 2009 6:20 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
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by Andy Hellicksonstine on Nov 3, 2009 1:47 PM EST reply actions
Do they have an OTTOTD?
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I didn't say they were as awesome as us
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by Andy Hellicksonstine on Nov 3, 2009 1:52 PM EST up reply actions
Watch your ass, bub.
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I don't like how 3QC lets facts get in the way of their opinion.
by R.J. Anderson on Nov 3, 2009 1:55 PM EST up reply actions
I like how they don't tolerate racists
FREE SPEACH is a myth. There is no such thing as 100% free speech. You cannot go into a movie theater and say "FIRE"!…"What? I have freedom of speach!" Bull. Doesnt work that way. Any real lawyer will tell you that.
by Top Gun Numba 1 on Nov 3, 2009 2:04 PM EST up reply actions
Am I the only one who thinks the ultra realistic CGI shit that Zemeckis keeps doing (Polar Express, Beowulf, A Christmas Carol) is totally unappealing?
If you’re going to draw/render something to look exactly like the voice actor, who also happens to be an incredibly famous movie star, why not just shoot the fucking thing live action. I’d pay $12 to watch Jim Carrey play Ebenezer Scrooge, not him voice a kinda sorta pretty good yet spookily overpolished likeness.
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EVERYONE'S REACTION TO THIS TOPIC

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If a certain someone gets Succaneers up and running and makes "my boy" the second in charge I will make you official mod of P Brady.
I at least want billing on the masthead as Top Commenter.
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The healthcare advisor to Bill Clinton?
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MARC TOPIKIN HEARING FROM INDUSTRY SOURCE RAYS TRADING AKI
FREE SPEACH is a myth. There is no such thing as 100% free speech. You cannot go into a movie theater and say "FIRE"!…"What? I have freedom of speach!" Bull. Doesnt work that way. Any real lawyer will tell you that.
LINK
http://blogs.tampabay.com/rays/2009/11/rays-working-on-iwamura-deal.html
FREE SPEACH is a myth. There is no such thing as 100% free speech. You cannot go into a movie theater and say "FIRE"!…"What? I have freedom of speach!" Bull. Doesnt work that way. Any real lawyer will tell you that.
by Top Gun Numba 1 on Nov 3, 2009 2:16 PM EST up reply actions
ADMINS PLEASE RENAME ME TO D'AlCapone AlPacino Morris asap
FREE SPEACH is a myth. There is no such thing as 100% free speech. You cannot go into a movie theater and say "FIRE"!…"What? I have freedom of speach!" Bull. Doesnt work that way. Any real lawyer will tell you that.
by Top Gun Numba 1 on Nov 3, 2009 2:16 PM EST up reply actions
Just start a new account
Although honestly I think you should go with Tre Cool
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by Andy Hellicksonstine on Nov 3, 2009 2:22 PM EST up reply actions
Douchiest name ever
Somebody, somewhere convinced this guy to change his name to that. I applaud this man/woman/God.
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by Andy Hellicksonstine on Nov 3, 2009 2:24 PM EST up reply actions
I don't think he needed convincing.
He strikes me as the kind of guy who thinks that his name is awesome.
Also, Billy: you’re pushing 40 and you have kids. Stop wearing eye makeup and writing songs about being a teenager, you fucking hack.
Bold anti-greenday stance
FREE SPEACH is a myth. There is no such thing as 100% free speech. You cannot go into a movie theater and say "FIRE"!…"What? I have freedom of speach!" Bull. Doesnt work that way. Any real lawyer will tell you that.
by Top Gun Numba 1 on Nov 3, 2009 2:28 PM EST up reply actions
GREEN DAY ARE LIKE THE MUSICAL ZEMECKIS
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With those thighs, you could carry me to Miami.
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What the shit is a zwan?
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by Andy Hellicksonstine on Nov 3, 2009 2:28 PM EST up reply actions
LMMFBO
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by Andy Hellicksonstine on Nov 3, 2009 2:30 PM EST up reply actions
No.
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I leave for 20 minutes and the DRB/BE war rages, Aki is almost dealt and Suttree has started his daily CAPS LOCKS FIREFIGHT.
Sign lady must die.
Something lame about a magic bus
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by Andy Hellicksonstine on Nov 3, 2009 2:35 PM EST up reply actions
Maybe he could play DT for Raheem
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by Andy Hellicksonstine on Nov 3, 2009 2:36 PM EST up reply actions
Also, massive hair.
My cousin is a film student. As soon as we’re able, we’re remaking Quadrophenia.
Sign lady must die.
by EminenceFront on Nov 3, 2009 2:36 PM EST up reply actions
I'm off the Buc Em masthead for some reason.
www.bucem.com - SBNation's source for all things Buccaneer
BUAHAHAHA.
Stern email forthcoming.
Sign lady must die.
by EminenceFront on Nov 3, 2009 2:36 PM EST up reply actions
I'll give you 2 guesses, no idea what's gonig on over there, but never mind
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by Andy Hellicksonstine on Nov 3, 2009 2:36 PM EST up reply actions
HM, IT'S A SHAME SOMEONE ISN'T WORKING ON ANOTHER FORUM FOR YOUR TO SHARE YOUR OPINIONS TO THE WORLD.
Why is it taking so long? FTPing files with a 56k modem?
Sign lady must die.
by EminenceFront on Nov 3, 2009 2:53 PM EST up reply actions
If this is at all my fault, I sincerely apologize.
It was an honest attempt at civil discourse. I actually foudn the debate refreshing rather compared to the standard Morris bashing or Freeman prognostications.
Follow Me on Twitter @FreeZorilla
I'm truly sorry that I didn't get a chance to read something of substance
Give me a heads up next time.
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by Andy Hellicksonstine on Nov 3, 2009 3:01 PM EST up reply actions
I just got off the horn with Fidel
He’s pretty pleased with the thesis of your story, but he doesn’t appreciate the disrespect.
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by Andy Hellicksonstine on Nov 3, 2009 3:18 PM EST reply actions
I'm at work, you maroon.
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If only the rest of us could read it.
/inner circle’d
I'm a Brett Favre honk so FUCK YOU!
by PriceMultiCyYoungs on Nov 3, 2009 3:42 PM EST up reply actions
Holy shit
What the fuck is with this formatting today?
2009 Rays Baseball: Welp.....we'll try again in 2010
2009 FSU Football: Bobby Bowden.........it's time to go
Christian Ponder has superpowers
Is frankenstein when you poop in the tank of the toilet?
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by Andy Hellicksonstine on Nov 3, 2009 3:56 PM EST up reply actions
If Pandora doesn't stop playing Death Cab For Cutie every other GD song I'm just gonna snap
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by Andy Hellicksonstine on Nov 3, 2009 4:12 PM EST reply actions
Another one just came on I'm about to toss this laptop
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by Andy Hellicksonstine on Nov 3, 2009 4:32 PM EST up reply actions
Did anyone else have their password reset?
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Well that's interesting. I couldn't log into DRB or BE and I have the same password Ive had forever. Had to go reset it.
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I don't want to really comment further, but this has to be one of the dumber things I've ever read
Thats why Im not a stat guy.
I WATCHED Gramatica WIN games for us, single handedly.
a number, say 78%, doesnt tell you anything.
When a FG was NEEDED, Gramatica nailed it through..even from 50+…
Check out Carolina game from 2002, Atlanta game from 1999, to name a few.
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by Andy Hellicksonstine on Nov 3, 2009 5:45 PM EST reply actions
Hey GUYS
Remember when THIS happened?
How bout this Game WINNER?
Man that one was IN THE SNOW!!!!!!!!!!!
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by Andy Hellicksonstine on Nov 3, 2009 6:43 PM EST up reply actions
YouTube comments are the best.
wow really brought gay to a new level pal
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The kick or the catch?
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by Andy Hellicksonstine on Nov 3, 2009 7:43 PM EST up reply actions
The catch.
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Damn, its a shame this is going to get wasted on a dead OTTOTD
With this fantastic comment:
it sounded like he said ‘Matt Bryant fucks win!’
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It's not wasted
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by Andy Hellicksonstine on Nov 3, 2009 7:50 PM EST up reply actions
Kiss me now or lose me forever, DRB user "Andy Hellicksonstine".
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POW you big stud
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by Andy Hellicksonstine on Nov 3, 2009 8:06 PM EST up reply actions

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