Rosenthal: Rays Will Receive Jesse Chavez in Return For Akinori Iwamura
by R.J. Anderson on Nov 3, 2009 5:38 PM EST
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Jesse Chavez is a 26-year-old right-handed reliever formerly of the Texas Rangers organization. He moved to Pittsburgh in the Kip Wells deal of 2006 and has pitched out of their bullpen parts of the last two seasons.
In 82.3 innings in the Majors Chavez has posted a 4.79 FIP and 5.41 tRA. His batted ball profile is similar and he's had issues with home runs. He throws quite hard (an average velocity of 94.4) and features a slider and change-up as secondary pitches. His career contact% against is 78.8% and he's shown affinity for causing hitters to chase outside of the strike zone. He's posted xFIP of 4.1 and 4.48, which is reasonable, albeit a bit presumptuous that his home run issues can be fixed. His fastball appears to be a bit flat, which could be a cause of concern.
Chavez' change-up recorded 13% whiffs and his fastball near 8%. That bodes well, all things considered, and he sort of resembles a poor man's Brandon League. Obviously he's not a sexy name, but baseball knew the Rays were in a difficult position with Akinori Iwamura. There was no way he was returning for that salary and draft compensation was not an option, so the Rays' hands were tied. Chavez has the chance to turn into a nice piece for the 2010 bullpen. In a vacuum, this deal favors the Pirates.
Worth noting is that Chavez' role last year included a MOP of 0.96 - by comparison Grant Balfour's MOP was 1.2 - meaning he was more than just a janitor and a little less than a true set-up man. His career splits to date are expectedly reversed given that great change-up. In 169 plate appearances his OPS versus lefties is .690 and in 191 his OPS against righties is .907. He's Joe Nelson in that regard.
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looks like a mexican homer bailey
Sign lady must die.
by EminenceFront on Nov 3, 2009 5:44 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
He-larious
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by Andy Hellicksonstine on Nov 3, 2009 5:47 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Regressable HR/FB rate.
Officially now the head of the Lobstein bandwagon.
by P Brady on Nov 3, 2009 5:40 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Interesting change in profile
Much better walk rate but at the expense of Ks. 40%+ groundballer throughout the minors.Slider 3.16 RAA/100 pitches in 09
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by FreeZorilla on Nov 3, 2009 5:47 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
I believe that's called pulling an edwin.
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by P Brady on Nov 3, 2009 5:49 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I find it hilarious that there is the meme "I can't wait until we trade him for a reliever"
and then we do that with Aki.
Of course, like it mentions, it doesn’t account for the situation. So what’s the verdict, could the Rays have done better?
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by Buc Wild on Nov 3, 2009 5:47 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
as i stated in the earlier thread
Mission accomplished.
I’d like this trade more with a minor leage positional player in return, but a bullpen-ready arm does fill a need, and the alternative to this was likely nothing, so it’s a winner in my eyes. Usually teams don’t get anything for a player in this situation.
I can't wait until we trade him for a reliever.
by kericr on Nov 3, 2009 8:10 PM EST via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
Definitely was better than option B
Spending money & getting no player versus saving money & getting some, can’t go wrong there.
by Transplanted on Nov 3, 2009 8:21 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Nice wrap-up Rodj, hope for the best, I suppose
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by Andy Hellicksonstine on Nov 3, 2009 5:49 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Rodrigo Juan Anderson finally can root for a countryman.
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by P Brady on Nov 3, 2009 5:50 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I'm terribly sad we're moving Aki.
But it is what it is. We had no room for him, and at least we got something in return. However, no Aki = :(
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by B Ray on Nov 3, 2009 5:55 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
As I was forced to use him at one point on a fantasy team this year, its worth noting that Jessie Chavez possesses
CLOSER EXPERIENCE.
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by PlayOnWords on Nov 3, 2009 6:01 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
ps
4/4 blown saves
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by PlayOnWords on Nov 3, 2009 6:02 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Excellent
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by Andy Hellicksonstine on Nov 3, 2009 6:06 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I recall thinking that this could be a massive coup for me, because I watched him throw pretty well (and hard).
Heh…
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by PlayOnWords on Nov 3, 2009 6:15 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Eh
That doesn’t necessarily mean he was in as a closer. A blown hold in the 8th still gets credited as a blown save.
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by Brickhaus on Nov 4, 2009 1:44 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Jesse Chavez has never recorded a save in the Majors.
by R.J. Anderson on Nov 3, 2009 6:02 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Irrelevant to my point, Rancid Jackalope Anderson.
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by PlayOnWords on Nov 3, 2009 6:14 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Still at work, fella. Paralyzed by the excitement of this trade.
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by PlayOnWords on Nov 3, 2009 6:18 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
He throws hard, that's great.
Aki wasn’t going to be on this team, so getting a pen arm that throws hard is good enough. Sure the Pirates got the more valuable player, but now we don’t have to pay Aki 250K not to play for us and we get a body who can propel his arm in an overhand motion really hard.
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by Tyler on Nov 3, 2009 6:06 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
I was going to read whatever FG had, but this sounds about right.
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by Andy Hellicksonstine on Nov 3, 2009 6:07 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Anti-Balfour?
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by Andy Hellicksonstine on Nov 3, 2009 6:07 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
How much is Aki's buyout
07:$1.8M, 08:$2.4M, 09:$3.25M, 10:$4.25M club option ($0.25M buyout)
2010 option may increase to $5.25M ($0.75M buyout) based on PAs, 07-09
So is it .25? .75?
by raysfaninminnesota on Nov 3, 2009 6:16 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
I thought it was 4.85M BO of 550k
The base being 4.25M 250k buyout, but there were bonuses
by Transplanted on Nov 3, 2009 6:17 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Underrated aspect of this trade
No FA until 2014, hmmmmm
by Transplanted on Nov 3, 2009 6:19 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Contract was purchased in late August 2008.
So at least one.
by R.J. Anderson on Nov 3, 2009 6:49 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah looks like 2008 is the only year that he went up and down.
I’d have to guess that he has two left.
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by Andy Hellicksonstine on Nov 3, 2009 6:50 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Doesn't appear he went back down in 2008.
So all three.
by R.J. Anderson on Nov 3, 2009 6:53 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Excellent
You can either die the hero or live long enough to become the villain
by Andy Hellicksonstine on Nov 3, 2009 6:55 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Well that's great. How long we control him really isn't much of an issue.
He’s a reliever, he’s not going to be here long term most likely. Roster flexibility is the name of the game with relievers.
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by Tyler on Nov 3, 2009 7:05 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Chavez seems to profile a bit like Benoit.
I’d have to look more into that in a few though.
by R.J. Anderson on Nov 3, 2009 6:23 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
does his scouting report hold promise as someone who can contribute in 2010?
seemed to have held his own in his first full year last season. Always tough transitioning from NL to AL, esp AL East. Seems like he might be a decent and inexpensive option, allowing the Rays to pursue quality over quantity in free agency or in their next move.
by raysfaninminnesota on Nov 3, 2009 6:31 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Welp.
They are retarded, signed Burrell for WAY too much and they are ditching Aki. Aki is a huge piece of the team’s soul, and he is a really good player. I hate these owners and GM. Hope they rot in hell with Madoff and all their evil NYC wall street pissants.
Posted by: Tone | November 03, 2009 at 06:23 PM
Sign lady must die.
by EminenceFront on Nov 3, 2009 6:35 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Yes. Everyone who works on Wall Street is basically Madoff.
Not everyone should be allowed to have an opinion.
by R.J. Anderson on Nov 3, 2009 6:38 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
A guy I used to work for used to say,
“Your thinking privileges have been revoked.” I never thought that people took him seriously, but apparently they’re breeding.
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by Andy Hellicksonstine on Nov 3, 2009 6:46 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Wtf
Some guy thinks the Rays are going to send another player over as well.
by raysrule44 on Nov 3, 2009 6:55 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Do we call him
JESSE CHAVEZ?
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by DAM on Nov 3, 2009 6:56 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
J.C
Will do fine
T-Jack is back, J.J has went back to sucking, Bates won't blitz, Raheem's bored.
by Some other guy who does not care on Nov 3, 2009 8:33 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Good deal for Rays
I didn’t think they’d get anything, have to NT him. So this is good.
Not sure why the Bucs are acting now – why not wait? There are FA options at 2B. But their IF is just atrocious right now, so I guess they felt a need to act? Wouldn’t be shocked if the Rays were eating some cash here, though I can’t really understand that either, at least not much more than the buyout would have been.
Odd, but then it is Pitt after all. Aki’s a nice player, but 4.85 MM and giving up a guy?
by nyyfaninlaaland on Nov 3, 2009 7:10 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
SALARY DUMP SALARY DUMP SALARY DUMP
Already hearing this nonsense, sorry to dump it on you guys. :)
by Marky Mark's Third Nipple on Nov 3, 2009 7:12 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
They should go look at the NBA to learn what real salary dumping is
But of course, majority of ppl are idiots so it doesn’t matter.
by Transplanted on Nov 3, 2009 7:17 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
does this trade hint toward a new stadium?
its obvious our new mexican is skilled at construction
by daveh33 on Nov 3, 2009 7:19 PM EST reply actions 6 recs
Racist with visual aids.
Recs Ryan’d.
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by PlayOnWords on Nov 3, 2009 7:36 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Rotoworld says we are giving up another player as well
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by FreeZorilla on Nov 3, 2009 7:25 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
I just got a press release confirming the Aki trade
Would it have been sent out to media if it wasn’t the full, completed trade?
by News Fedora on Nov 3, 2009 7:28 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
It's completed, but the details won't be revealed until tonight
kinda like the Kazmir trade
by Transplanted on Nov 3, 2009 7:29 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
The releases usually note if there's other parts, like the PTBNL in the Kazmir deal.
Here’s the PR for those interested:
ST. PETERSBURG, FL—The Tampa Bay Rays have traded second baseman Akinori Iwamura to the Pittsburgh Pirates in exchange for right-handed relief pitcher Jesse Chavez.
Iwamura, 30, hit .290 (67-for-231) with one home run, 22 RBI and nine stolen bases in 69 games for the Rays this season, his third in the major leagues. He missed more than three months (May 25–Aug 28) after suffering partial tears of his left ACL and meniscus, which required surgery. Iwamura was the Rays starting second baseman the last two years (2008-09) after playing third base during his rookie season of 2007. In three years with Tampa Bay he hit .281 with 14 homers, 104 RBI, 29 stolen bases and a .354 on-base pct. He originally signed with the Rays as a free agent on December 15, 2006 after starring for the Japanese Central League’s Yakult Swallows for more than eight years.
Chavez, 26, led the Pirates and all major league rookies with 73 appearances last season. He went 1-4 with a 4.01 ERA (67.1-IP, 30-ER) and held left-handed batters to a .228 avg. (29-for-127). He compiled a 3.19 ERA (36.2-IP, 13-ER) prior to the All-Star break. Chavez was selected by the Texas Rangers in the 42nd round of the 2002 June Draft out of Riverside (Calif.) Community College, and signed the following May. He was traded to Pittsburgh on July 31, 2006 in exchange for right-handed pitcher Kip Wells.
107 days until Pitchers and Catchers report
by R.J. Anderson on Nov 3, 2009 7:31 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
So it's done then fully?
No other players?
by Transplanted on Nov 3, 2009 7:33 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
That's what I'm suspecting
Unless there’s another, completely separate trade going on between the teams.
by News Fedora on Nov 3, 2009 7:34 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Everything seems to get confusing
When we try to trade with PIT
by Transplanted on Nov 3, 2009 7:36 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Fanhouse also reporting 2nd player
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by FreeZorilla on Nov 3, 2009 7:36 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Any speculation you may have?
Reliever, position player, Pat Burrell?
by Transplanted on Nov 3, 2009 7:37 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
no clue
definitely conflicts with most reports
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by FreeZorilla on Nov 3, 2009 7:38 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
PITTSBURGH/TB TRADES STRIKE AGAIN
It’s Jason Bay all over again
And Pittsburgh looks really stupid now
by Transplanted on Nov 3, 2009 7:40 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
How the fuck is Jesse Chavez worth 2 players?
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by PlayOnWords on Nov 3, 2009 7:38 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
We could trade a player of negative value
by Transplanted on Nov 3, 2009 7:41 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Tim Beckham, more like.
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by PlayOnWords on Nov 3, 2009 7:44 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Thunderthighs.
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by PlayOnWords on Nov 3, 2009 7:46 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
so on beyonce its a good thing
but not for Timmy. sexists
by daveh33 on Nov 3, 2009 11:58 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Dejan has since said there are no other players involved.
Also, for those who want to doubt the Pirates are smart now, consider this Huntington quote, he gets it folks:
“It was tough to give up Jesse, but the bullpen is the most difficult area to predict future performance. In our minds, it was much more difficult to find 600 quality plate appearances than 60 relief appearances.”
by R.J. Anderson on Nov 3, 2009 7:47 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Well.
Tim Beckham is still fat.
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by PlayOnWords on Nov 3, 2009 7:47 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
PITTSBURGH HAS AN INTELLIGENT GM???
HOW LONG HAS THIS MAN EXISTED
by Transplanted on Nov 3, 2009 7:48 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Trans - you ever read the Fabric of Reality by Deutsch?
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by PlayOnWords on Nov 3, 2009 7:49 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Dammit, man.
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by PlayOnWords on Nov 3, 2009 7:52 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I just find staring at a bunch of words boring
And I retain none of it, now if it was a visual product, I’d be remotely entertained after about 10 watches so I remembered everything.
by Transplanted on Nov 3, 2009 7:57 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
They also have Dan Fox and (I think) Victor Wang around.
No wins yet, but they’re coming if that crew gets time.
by R.J. Anderson on Nov 3, 2009 7:49 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
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by westbrook on Nov 4, 2009 12:23 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Continuing with the Neal Huntington is smart theme, I definitely called this back in August:
They’re pretty high on Argenis Diaz from what I understand.
He’s the defensive oriented SS they got from Boston. Unless they pick someone up in the offseason he’ll probably be up by the all-star break if all goes well. Maybe sooner.
LaRoche’s defense at second would apparently be pretty awful. I’d really like to see Pittsburgh go after Aki.
by Vin on Aug 2, 2009 11:19 AM CDT
I think its a pretty good deal for both teams, personally.
by Vin on Nov 3, 2009 9:39 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Nice call Vin.
Also nice seeing you around.
by R.J. Anderson on Nov 3, 2009 9:42 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Thanks R.J.
Wish I could drop by more often.
by Vin on Nov 3, 2009 10:24 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Off-topic...
Any new information on Noel Arguelles?
by Marky Mark's Third Nipple on Nov 3, 2009 11:05 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
i saw the words "aki" and "trade"
and came directly to draysbay….. i missed reading everyday
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