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Great Coach and formerly a great recruiter

I would love to have been a fly on the wall when Bobby Bowden was probably told his contract wouldn’t be picked up for another year, of course the AD/school president didn’t have much to fear cause he probably forgot it five minutes later.

the ghost of stokes, camp, lugo strikes TB-sept 2009

by CubFanRaysaddict on Nov 30, 2009 7:53 PM EST reply actions  

It was the hard thing to do

It was also the right thing to do

2009 Rays Baseball: Welp.....we'll try again in 2010
2009 FSU Football: Thanks for the memories, Bobby Bowden

by JMB on Nov 30, 2009 8:31 PM EST reply actions  

He didn't do it willingly. He wasn't given a choice.

I hate that it ended this way. I really wish he would pass the torch willingly and be honored the way he deserves to be. Unfortunately, he’s not going quietly and that’s really unfortunate. It’s crazy to think that Mickey Andrews was the one honored in Bobby’s last home game. Terrible situation.

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by Tyler on Nov 30, 2009 8:42 PM EST up reply actions  

That's the worst part, is he wont get his fairwell tour. He won't have a chance to be sent off the way he should.

He fought it the whole way and it got him nothing.

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by Buc Wild on Nov 30, 2009 9:06 PM EST up reply actions  

Except he doesn't want the farewell tour treatment

They’re not even holding a press conference for this. All they’re going to do is have a press release with all the details.

2009 Rays Baseball: Welp.....we'll try again in 2010
2009 FSU Football: Thanks for the memories, Bobby Bowden

by JMB on Dec 1, 2009 1:16 AM EST up reply actions  

He should come back for one more year

He should have retired a couple of years ago, but he has been selfish and has kept coaching while being a detriment to the program IMO.

I still think they should let him have one year as “head coach” with less authority as far as assistants go. Almost just as a figure head. It just seems wrong for him to go out like this.

FSU’s greatest coach will have a losing record vs Florida. They should at least give him a chance to even it up

Bring Your Z-Game!

by Sveet on Nov 30, 2009 9:51 PM EST reply actions  

That is what they offered him

He refused to come back under those terms

"It boils down to one of two things: It's either the horses or the jockeys. And we think we have some pretty good horses."

by RaysnNoles on Nov 30, 2009 11:00 PM EST up reply actions  

I heard the offered him a position in the athletic department and he turned it down

but not as head coach.

If this is true then I can’t fault FSU, but I find it hard to believe he doesn’t want one more year when all he has said all along is he wants to coach next year.

Bring Your Z-Game!

by Sveet on Dec 1, 2009 12:33 PM EST up reply actions  

That year should have been this year

He didn’t want to play it that way so golly gosh darn him.

I'm a writer.

by Andy Hellicksonstine on Dec 1, 2009 12:49 PM EST up reply actions  

It should never have come to this

Poorly handled by FSU and Bowden but really this is the only answer. Another year with Fisher as ‘the coach in waiting’ would have been a disaster. Go Gators

by sternfan1 on Nov 30, 2009 10:15 PM EST reply actions  

Go Gatas

link, seriously if you have time between the golf course and the social security office check this link out it’s hilarious.

the ghost of stokes, camp, lugo strikes TB-sept 2009

by CubFanRaysaddict on Dec 1, 2009 12:06 AM EST up reply actions  

As a Bucs and Noles fan

All of my heroes are gone. First the Bucs cut Derrick Brooks of which my screen name is in homage to. Then Bobby is no more in Tallahassee. It is weird not seeing Derrick in Pewter and Crimson on Sundays in the fall and it will be even more odd not seeing Bobby on the sidelines in Tallahassee on Saturdays in fall.

I am gonna miss him dadgumit.

I agree it was overdue and I think the program can move on and progress without him. I will remember him forever hoisting the Crystal football from the NatioNOLE championship trophy after an undefeated wire to wire #1 season in 1999.

by PewterPirate55 on Nov 30, 2009 10:56 PM EST reply actions  

Geno Hayes and Jimbo....

Sandy changed his SN you can too a year from now, pewterpirate54 can’t be taken.

the ghost of stokes, camp, lugo strikes TB-sept 2009

by CubFanRaysaddict on Dec 1, 2009 12:08 AM EST up reply actions  

Geno Hayes sucks though

He is one notch above Sabby Piscatelli

Bring Your Z-Game!

by Sveet on Dec 1, 2009 12:34 PM EST up reply actions  

I do not think I am going to dignify a response to this

But I will make it my signature though Just to remind you when he is a perennial pro-bowler that you said he sucked and when you backpeddal my sig will be there to remind you of how idiotic that statement was.

by PewterPirate55 on Dec 1, 2009 4:18 PM EST up reply actions  

Please do

I guarantee I won’t look as idiotic as Geno when he said this

“Tim Tebow’s going down. The bigger they are the harder they fall,”

and then didn’t make a tackle.

Bring Your Z-Game!

by Sveet on Dec 2, 2009 5:25 PM EST up reply actions  

Long overdue

I’ll admit that I completely whiffed on the Weis thing. Apparently, graduating your players and teaching them to be better men isn’t enough. So many schools have problem kids or graduate half (or less) of their players. ND fans are stupid for not seeing that the game on the field is of little importance.

I'm a writer.

by Andy Hellicksonstine on Nov 30, 2009 11:11 PM EST reply actions  

Except when you invest millions of dollars in one man to coach your football team, you expect a little better than 6-6 every year

Especially at Notre Dame

2009 Rays Baseball: Welp.....we'll try again in 2010
2009 FSU Football: Thanks for the memories, Bobby Bowden

by JMB on Dec 1, 2009 1:18 AM EST up reply actions  

So don't play the hardest schedule in the country every year

They put themselves in a position to play for the NC every year by how ridiculous their schedule is. This year was kind of a down year as a couple of the teams have fallen off , but coming in they faced 5 teams that were either in the top 25 (#4 USC) or received votes for it. They were 4-1 and 6-2 at separate points this year. One of those losses was the Tate Forcier coming out party in a 4 point loss to Michigan. Another was a 7 point loss to a not-yet-psychologically destroyed USC team. Then they lose by 2 to Navy, by 5 to #14 Pitt, in double OT to UCONN, and by a touch to Stanford. They were 6-2 before the team quit on Weis. These kids listen to ESPN talk about their coach and wonder instead of just doing their jobs.

I get a little defensive about the Notre Dame job, not because I like Charlie Weis, but because you might as well be standing on a trap door. Notre Dame hasn’t been great in 15 years and has only approached good in a few of those seasons. Their commitment is to make their players into men. Men that can land jobs outside of the meat grinder known as pro football. To castrate their coaches (Holtz, Davie, Willingham, and Weis alike) for prioritizing life over death is a shame, one I’m not surprised to see come down from an institution that so willingly takes from the poor to gives to the rich. I hope they get Bill Cowher in there with Mike Shanahan guiding the offense and Dick Jauron coaching the defense. They will still go 6-6.

I'm a writer.

by Andy Hellicksonstine on Dec 1, 2009 9:06 AM EST up reply actions  

No offense

But you’re kind of being stupid for thinking that graduating players and helping them mature and people matters at big-time football schools.

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by Imperialism32 on Dec 1, 2009 1:28 AM EST up reply actions  

Naive, perhaps, stupid, no.

ND hasn’t been a big-time football program in a long time.

I'm a writer.

by Andy Hellicksonstine on Dec 1, 2009 9:07 AM EST up reply actions  

Bowden has been an icon for College Football and for Football in the State of Florida for decades

He has done a wonderful job mentoring many boys into men and been a hell of coach while doing it. He was clearly past his prime, but I think the handling of the entire situation by FSU has been awful from the point they signed a coach in waiting that long ago. Too many chefs in the kitchen always leads to disaster, and to top it off…Jimbo is going to fail miserably there. I think he’s overrated and they will be out looking for a new coach before too much longer.

by usfraysfan on Dec 1, 2009 12:59 PM EST reply actions  

Summed it up perfectly

Yeah, I agree with you on this one. I know it won’t happen, but I wish they would go hard for Brian Kelly. I think he could be like Urban and bring the school back up to the top. I just don’t think Jimbo will be that guy and personally think he is overrated. I hope I’m wrong.

by ReyL on Dec 1, 2009 1:48 PM EST up reply actions  

I think the right thing to do is give Jimbo a chance.

I don’t think it can get any worse if he actually has a staff that he fully made all of the decisions on and he can actually recruit without Bowdens retirement party shadow hanging over the program… He could actually get something done.

"Geno Hayes sucks though
He is one notch above Sabby Piscatelli
by Sveet on Dec 1, 2009 12:34 PM EST"

by PewterPirate55 on Dec 1, 2009 4:23 PM EST up reply actions  

It's all about who the DC is

We know he can coach offense (); if they hire a DC on the same level, he’s going to do just fine.

by kjharris82 on Dec 1, 2009 8:12 PM EST up reply actions  

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