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Carl Crawford, Brian Shouse, Gregg Zaun, and Russ Springer Each Receive Type-B Status

Inverted W! RUN FOR YOUR LIVES!

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Inverted W! RUN FOR YOUR LIVES!

Per Ed Price.

Crawford won't reach free agency, Zaun and Shouse have options which may be declined, and Springer is a true free agent. The questions now are whether any of them will be offered arbitration in order to gain a supplemental round compensation pick. Given his age (and potential salary) it seems rather unlikely Shouse gets offered. The same can probably be said for Springer. We'll see though.

Some more thoughts:

  • LaTroy Hawkins is a Type-A free agent. He will cost some team a first round pick if they decide (for whatever reason) they need him. Adrian Beltre is a Type-B and won't cost a pick. You know, I really cannot wait until someone like Boston focuses on adding Beltre for less than his market value and then doesn't have to give up a pick to get him. Please Phillies, win him for us.
  • Chan Ho Park, Kiko Calero, and Brandon Lyon are Type-B free agents.
  • Billy Wagner, Jose Valverde, Mike Gonzalez, Octavio Dotel, Rafael Soriano, Kevin Gregg, and John Grabow are Type-As. 
  • Jason Kendall, Jason Varitek, and Rod Barajas hold the same compensation type as Carl Crawford. No, really.

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There is still hope

IIRC wouldn’t we receive compensation if someone were to sign them before Dec. 1, even if we don’t offer arbitration?

Let’s hope some GM is convinced Shouse is his LOOGY and someone else really wants Springer’s fastball in his bullpen.

by ReyL on Nov 9, 2009 4:08 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

pretty much...

I think the team still has to ‘offer’ arbitration, but because the player is under contract already it’s just a formality to get those draft picks.

the ghost of stokes, camp, lugo strikes TB-sept 2009

by CubFanRaysaddict on Nov 9, 2009 4:14 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

No

A team can offer or not offer arbitration, all depending on how they feel about it. Free Agent arbitration works differently then player control arbitration, where the team basically calls all the shots. In pending FA arb, IF they offer arbitration, a player can accept or refuse arbitration. If they refuse, the team gets a pick. If they accept, then the arbitrator determines a value. If the TEAM ACCEPTS the value, they get the player (assuming the player also accepts the value). If the PLAYER REJECTS the value, they get the pick. if the TEAM REJECTS the value, they get nothing.

Offering Arbitration to either of the players the Rays released would likely result in nothing, since both of them would likely take arbitration, both of them would be overpayed by the arbitrator, and the team would likely reject the arbitration values. Zaun might be worth a shot though since he may reject by wanting to play every day, or retire.

Now if we pretended for a moment that CC was released instead of his option being picked up, the Rays would be wise to offer arbitration, because CC would likely decline it, entitling them to a pick.

I can't wait until we trade him for a reliever.

by kericr on Nov 9, 2009 6:29 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I was responding to 'if'

another team signs the players before the arb. deadline

the ghost of stokes, camp, lugo strikes TB-sept 2009

by CubFanRaysaddict on Nov 9, 2009 8:27 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

this is only from MLBTR's glossary

but it seems accurate; If a player signs with another team before December 1st, his former team still receives compensation picks. link

the ghost of stokes, camp, lugo strikes TB-sept 2009

by CubFanRaysaddict on Nov 9, 2009 8:37 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I knew I was missing something.

Yeah, if the players sign before Dec. 1, regardless of whether arbitration is offered or not, they get a pick.

I can't wait until we trade him for a reliever.

by kericr on Nov 9, 2009 11:17 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

System Flawed!

Why the hell would Crawford be graded a Type B player and Wagner is a Type A?

by Bluechips85 on Nov 10, 2009 12:54 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

They have some dumb set formula

Which obviously needs to be changed, but the Draft Compensation system sucks anyway.

by Transplanted on Nov 10, 2009 2:45 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

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