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An Interview With Dave Cameron


As part of our continuing series of interviews this winter I'd like to welcome Dave Cameron to the site.  You all know probably best know Dave as a driving force behind FanGraphs, but you can also catch his work at  USS Mariner, the Wall Street Journal, and recently the Huffington Post.  Dave has been kind enough to share his insight with us today:

EH: The standard leadoff question: What should the Rays do with Carl Crawford?

DC: Keep him.  He's a +4 win player with a skill set that both ages well and is undervalued in the market.  He's the face of the franchise.  If you're not going to try to re-sign Crawford, you might as well just re-name the franchise Marlins North.  Come July, if the team is out of it and extension talks haven't gone well, then you put him on the
market.  But there's enough talent in Tampa to win in 2010, and Crawford is a big part of that.  Given your proximity to the Red Sox and Yankees in expected wins, the marginal value of the wins Crawford adds are very high - trading them to save some money may actually be a financial negative, given the reduced playoff odds.

EH: The Rays have another key player who’s a free agent after the 2010 season in Carlos Pena.  He isn’t being talked about nearly as much as Crawford, nor should he, but what do you foresee happening with that situation?

DC: I don't think he's back in 2011.  How long he sticks around depends on how well the team does this year.  If they're not strong contenders in July, you trade him for whatever you can get.  I think he's the kind of player that you'll have a hard time offering arbitration to, so draft pick compensation shouldn't be assumed.

EH: How much playing time does Sean Rodriguez receive this season? Guess at a final slash line?

DC: Depends on how the roster shakes out.  If Willy Aybar's around, then Rodriguez is primarily a backup for Zobrist and Bartlett, and probably not good enough defensively to play SS regularly, so he'd be a 150-200 PA guy.  If they ship out Aybar and let Rodriguez be the infield super sub, he could get 350-400 PA.  In terms of a slash line, I'll go with .240/.300/.400.

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EH: Unless Jason Bartlett is moved at some point this season it looks as though Reid Brignac will spend another year in lovely Durham, North Carolina.  Brignac has long been one of the Rays top prospects but has seen very few Major League at bats the past few seasons.  I know it’s a long way off, but where do you see him being on Opening Day, 2011?

DC: The Rays have had plenty of opportunities to deal him and declined, and my feeling is that he's being kept around as Bartlett's inevitable replacement.  He'll be the Rays starting SS whenever Bartlett leaves, either via trade or free agency.

EH: Speaking of Jason Bartlett, he had one of the more surprising seasons in recent memory.  How much regression should we expect to see in 2010?

DC:  Maybe not as much as people think.  He got the slap hitter tag for his major league performance in Minnesota, but his minor league numbers suggested that he could hit, so this wasn't totally out of the blue. I think you could project him as a roughly league average hitter without being crazy.

EH: The Rays signed Evan Longoria and James Shields to very cheap, very team friendly extensions early in the 2008 season.  Those extensions were nearly unprecedented at the time, and still very few teams have followed in their footsteps.  Just how good were those signings, and do you think we’ll see more signings like those around baseball in the future?

DC:  It's not that teams didn't want to follow in their footsteps, but rather that agents learned from those mistakes and won't make those deals again.  Those two contracts were crazy from the player's perspective, with an imbalance in the risk/reward calculation that made the deals way too team friendly.  If I was a player choosing an
agent, I would rule out Longoria's representatives solely on the basis of that contract.

EH: It was a fantastic sight to see this year, but there’s a minute chance that Ben Zobrist leads the league in WAR again next season.  Where do you think his true talent level lies?

DC: Special hitting coach or not, I don't see the physical strength required to maintain a .250 ISO over a long period of time, so I expect some regression in his power.  The plate discipline is for real, though, so even if slugs .450 instead of  .550, he's a good hitter.  Defensively, he strikes me as a good second baseman rather than a great one, so I'd project his UZR for next year to be between +0 and +10.  That probably makes him a +3 to +4 win player.

EH: Lately there has been a lot of talk about a salary floor and in baseball, with Red Sox Owner John Henry speaking out in favor of it and ESPN’s Keith Law in opposition. Those in favor feel as if it would greatly increase the competitive balance, while those opposed think it would hurt lower market teams far more than help them.  I feel as if a team like the Rays would be hurt by the implementation of a floor; what are your thoughts on the issue?

DC: A salary floor is a terrible idea.  It would reduce the incentives for filling a roster with low-salaried, home-grown talent, forcing low revenue teams to pay market rates for free agents or expensive veterans in trade.  The whole point of a good economic system is to create incentives for individuals (or teams, in this example) to do what you want them to do.  MLB should want teams investing in their player development, and a floor would lower the return on that investment.  There are better ways to stop owners from taking the revenue sharing money and sticking it in the bank.

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Be sure to check out Dave's work at FanGraphs, USS Mariner, the Wall Street Journal, and the Huffington Post.  Also, follow him on twitter @d_a_cameron.

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by FreeZorilla on Dec 10, 2009 2:06 PM EST reply actions  

He's taking shots at your man, FZ.
I don’t see the physical strength required to maintain a .250 ISO over a long period of time

Jesus doesn’t need muscles.

Sign lady must die.

by EminenceFront on Dec 10, 2009 2:15 PM EST up reply actions  

I didn't disagree either.

I have an irrational fear that he will start striking out more this year. Can’t back it up but I just have that feeling.

Sign lady must die.

by EminenceFront on Dec 10, 2009 2:50 PM EST up reply actions  

Best one yet.

Obviously he doesn’t have to worry about answering the questions with a gag, though.

by rglass44 on Dec 10, 2009 2:12 PM EST reply actions  

Beautiful, beautiful

Hopefully that shuts up the ‘trade Barty’ crowd

by sternfan1 on Dec 10, 2009 2:17 PM EST reply actions  

Or a regression to his 2008 numbers

or a regression to his 2006 numbers
or a regression to his 2005 numbers
or a regression to his 2004 numbers

I'm a writer.

by Andy Hellicksonstine on Dec 10, 2009 2:24 PM EST up reply actions  

.340 wOBA is generous.

If he hits that well, I will be happy. At the same time, if he hits .320 with average defense, he’ll probably be worth whatever money he gets. That’s never been the question either, it’s a matter of whether his trade value is higher than his value to the Rays.

by R.J. Anderson on Dec 10, 2009 2:28 PM EST up reply actions  

I'm surprised that we aren't hearing more of MVB included in Halladay talks, now that Scutaro is a Sawk.

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by PlayOnWords on Dec 10, 2009 2:29 PM EST up reply actions  

yeah...

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by PlayOnWords on Dec 10, 2009 2:30 PM EST up reply actions  

You misread what RJ wrote

2009 version.

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by FreeZorilla on Dec 10, 2009 2:49 PM EST up reply actions  

exactly

if some team over whelms the Rays for Bartlett then you move him

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by RaysOfHope on Dec 10, 2009 2:26 PM EST up reply actions  

Whay now?

when you’ve put most of the pieces in place for a run at it, you’re giving the SS job to a raw rookie?

by sternfan1 on Dec 10, 2009 2:24 PM EST up reply actions  

This isn't a choose your own adventure book, though, where you die you can go back and make a different choice

If he does turn back into his career self he will severely cut his trade value. A lot of his value comes from being arby for 2 years at this point. Even if he turns back into an average SS (nothing to sneeze at) he loses value from being another year older with one less year of control.

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by Andy Hellicksonstine on Dec 10, 2009 2:31 PM EST up reply actions  

word

keep up the phight andy.

Briggy for SS ’10

by daveh33 on Dec 10, 2009 2:42 PM EST up reply actions  

new Bradley update

Cubs officials say they are close to trading OF Milton Bradley, and all indications are that he’ll be going to Tampa Bay.

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by RaysOfHope on Dec 10, 2009 2:40 PM EST reply actions  

ya thats true

i dont see how the Cubs trade him to anyone besides the Rays

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by RaysOfHope on Dec 10, 2009 2:43 PM EST up reply actions  

true

we’ve got their balls in vice-grip

by daveh33 on Dec 10, 2009 2:45 PM EST up reply actions  

There isn't anyone but the Rays. They're going to have to cave. They had to posture. It's stupid not to do everything you possibly can

to save literally millions. Unfortunately (for them not us) there wasn’t a market outside of Tampa for him and we’re going to get a pretty safe contract.

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by Tyler on Dec 10, 2009 2:45 PM EST up reply actions  

they tried to bluff us with this "surprise AL team"

well guess what Cubs, we called your bluff and you look pretty stupid right now because of it

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by RaysOfHope on Dec 10, 2009 2:47 PM EST up reply actions  

Good interview!

Always interesting to see what other people’s opinions are.

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by Buc Wild on Dec 10, 2009 2:44 PM EST reply actions  

A bit disheartened by the Rodriguez projection

what were his MLEs? Although I realize SLC makes some hitters look like superman.

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by Brickhaus on Dec 10, 2009 3:30 PM EST reply actions  

306/462 obp/slg

per minorleaguesplits MLE calculator, I only used his 2009 PCL stats of 435 PA’s and translated them to the Rays ML team, still 21 homers in ~410 PA’s, with a very respectable middle infield OPS makes me feel good about Zobrist in RF vs. lefties (S-Rod has OPS’d ~940 in about 700 PA’s vs. MiLB lefties) and Joyce sitting on those days while STB tries 2B.

the ghost of stokes, camp, lugo strikes TB-sept 2009

by CubFanRaysaddict on Dec 11, 2009 1:06 AM EST up reply actions  

nice, I agree about Craw. There is no way we should let him go unless there is no way humanly possible to get a deal done. Him and Longo are the two most known Rays players

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by raysfan81 on Dec 10, 2009 7:11 PM EST reply actions  

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