Report: Tampa Bay Rays to Sign Rafael Soriano for "$7M or Slightly Above"
From Ken Rosenthal:
TB will sign Soriano for one year at 7M or slightly above. Deal will be official after usual exchange of medical records, etc.
That's a lot of money.
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oh damn
make this shit official
Fire and Ice: Rafael Soriano and J.P Howell.......with their side kick Grant the aussie Balfour!
Cubs left winter meetings
@CarrieMuskat #cubs leave Winter Meetings with Milton still on roster. Hendry did talk to agents about FA CFs such as Byrd, Ankiel, Podsednik, Cameron
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lol
He stormed out with his Milton Bobblehead and was overheard saying “Well if Andrew isn’t going to play fair, then I’ll take my Milton and leave. Hmphhh!”
by rglass44 on Dec 10, 2009 11:19 AM EST up reply actions 4 recs
harumph! harumph! harumph! harumph! harumph!
I didn’t get a harumph out of that guy.
give the governor a harumph!
Harumph!
Watch Milton be waived by next season
Fire and Ice: Rafael Soriano and J.P Howell.......with their side kick Grant the aussie Balfour!
next week*****
Fire and Ice: Rafael Soriano and J.P Howell.......with their side kick Grant the aussie Balfour!
Quick question...
Why would there be negotiations on a 1 yr deal? Dont the Rays have to pay the arb figure?
Can't they negotiate to avoid arb?
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by FreeZorilla on Dec 10, 2009 11:22 AM EST up reply actions
2/10 could be fun
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by Andy Hellicksonstine on Dec 10, 2009 11:23 AM EST up reply actions
Agree
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by FreeZorilla on Dec 10, 2009 11:24 AM EST up reply actions
Not when Lyon got 3/15
I'm a Brett Favre honk so FUCK YOU!
by PriceMultiCyYoungs on Dec 10, 2009 11:41 AM EST up reply actions
I thought Dave covered that pretty well
There’s smart men and then there’s Ed Wade.
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by Andy Hellicksonstine on Dec 10, 2009 11:43 AM EST up reply actions
hes basically one of the arby players
they can give him a multi year if they wanted (they wont)
Fire and Ice: Rafael Soriano and J.P Howell.......with their side kick Grant the aussie Balfour!
If we get a news flash that the Red Sox signed him, I'm going to murder someone. It'll probably be Seth McClung, arbitrarily.
Oh god dammit.
Mira Sorvino...Paul Walker...T-Pain...Fall 2010...HEADSTONE MAFIA, A LOVE STORY OF REVENGE. "5/5 stars!!!" - DRB User "Andy Hellicksonstine"
It would appear that Raffy's homer-prone tendancies come mostly against lefties, any chance that we use him in
much the same role he was in last year. Would be interesting to see dual-firemen that can come in anywhere in the 7th-9th if it’s a high leverage siutation.
This is pretty interesting:

I also like this, look at Pizzle’s consistency

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by Andy Hellicksonstine on Dec 10, 2009 11:35 AM EST reply actions
They wouldn't have made the move without thinking they could sign him, right? RIGHT?
Mira Sorvino...Paul Walker...T-Pain...Fall 2010...HEADSTONE MAFIA, A LOVE STORY OF REVENGE. "5/5 stars!!!" - DRB User "Andy Hellicksonstine"
Calm down Mr. Words.
There’s a pretty good chance this gets done.
by R.J. Anderson on Dec 10, 2009 11:37 AM EST up reply actions
I wonder if we could pay him in gum
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by Andy Hellicksonstine on Dec 10, 2009 11:38 AM EST up reply actions
new or used
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by CubFanRaysaddict on Dec 10, 2009 11:39 AM EST up reply actions
Used, but by the finest slice of the Ray Team
Mira Sorvino...Paul Walker...T-Pain...Fall 2010...HEADSTONE MAFIA, A LOVE STORY OF REVENGE. "5/5 stars!!!" - DRB User "Andy Hellicksonstine"
by PlayOnWords on Dec 10, 2009 11:43 AM EST up reply actions
I'd have a comment, but I'm pretty sure all of those girls are 14
I'm a writer.
by Andy Hellicksonstine on Dec 10, 2009 11:46 AM EST up reply actions
Your surety is misplaced.
Mira Sorvino...Paul Walker...T-Pain...Fall 2010...HEADSTONE MAFIA, A LOVE STORY OF REVENGE. "5/5 stars!!!" - DRB User "Andy Hellicksonstine"
by PlayOnWords on Dec 10, 2009 11:47 AM EST up reply actions
I want RJ to get some info on this
I NEED TO KNOW WHAT I WAS STARING AT LAST YEAR
by BJ the Bossman on Dec 10, 2009 12:29 PM EST up reply actions
No problem
it just took me a few minutes to find it
by BJ the Bossman on Dec 10, 2009 12:44 PM EST up reply actions
I fuckin hate SB Nation
messin up all my important posts
by BJ the Bossman on Dec 10, 2009 1:00 PM EST up reply actions
Blame Navi. That's what I do.
“Honey, you broke ANOTHER glass??”
“It was that fucking Navarro, dear!”
This usually works well
but for some reason, police officers dont see it this way
by BJ the Bossman on Dec 10, 2009 1:04 PM EST up reply actions
"I'm sorry officer, I would have had donuts for you guys but that fatass Navarro, he just won't stop eatin!"
I can't wait until we trade him for a reliever.
sounds realistic
--Gerald Wallace is the best player the Bobcats will have..... EVER
--Someone should slap Larry Brown and bring him back to reality..
very beleivable actually
--Gerald Wallace is the best player the Bobcats will have..... EVER
--Someone should slap Larry Brown and bring him back to reality..
he had to approve a deal to us in the first place
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by CubFanRaysaddict on Dec 10, 2009 11:39 AM EST up reply actions
well he gets paid through arb no matter what
6.5-9 million are the arb estimates I have seen. I expect he has no reason to discount from that, so contract will have to at least be at the low end of those figures for the player to agree. So why wouldn’t the player just be content with going to arbitration?
Just smack me real hard.
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by PlayOnWords on Dec 10, 2009 11:39 AM EST up reply actions
Crasnick:
The Rafael Soriano-to-Tampa deal should be complete by the end of the day after Rays get a look at his medical file.
Literally two minutes ago.
by R.J. Anderson on Dec 10, 2009 11:40 AM EST up reply actions
*deep drag off cigarette*
Mira Sorvino...Paul Walker...T-Pain...Fall 2010...HEADSTONE MAFIA, A LOVE STORY OF REVENGE. "5/5 stars!!!" - DRB User "Andy Hellicksonstine"
by PlayOnWords on Dec 10, 2009 11:41 AM EST up reply actions
of*
Mira Sorvino...Paul Walker...T-Pain...Fall 2010...HEADSTONE MAFIA, A LOVE STORY OF REVENGE. "5/5 stars!!!" - DRB User "Andy Hellicksonstine"
by PlayOnWords on Dec 10, 2009 11:41 AM EST up reply actions
off fits better
Me babe, steppin' out
Into the night, into the light
by Orlando Rays on Dec 10, 2009 12:06 PM EST up reply actions
Games are not won and lost on Win Curves
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by Andy Hellicksonstine on Dec 10, 2009 11:43 AM EST up reply actions
They're won on VORP machines
and in basements
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by CubFanRaysaddict on Dec 10, 2009 11:45 AM EST up reply actions
OT: 007 > COD
I'm a Brett Favre honk so FUCK YOU!
by PriceMultiCyYoungs on Dec 10, 2009 11:47 AM EST reply actions
ZERPA WAS A DUMP!
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by FreeZorilla on Dec 10, 2009 11:49 AM EST up reply actions
Shuts up all the whiners too
WE NEED CLOSERZ, FO IS CHEEP, blah blah blah, etc
by Transplanted on Dec 10, 2009 11:50 AM EST up reply actions
Yeah, but BJ is still lazy
I'm a writer.
by Andy Hellicksonstine on Dec 10, 2009 11:50 AM EST up reply actions
Yeah
Can’t solve everything, no magic wand(although that’s questionable)
by Transplanted on Dec 10, 2009 11:51 AM EST up reply actions
I hear you can get bleach to solve that problem.
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by PriceMultiCyYoungs on Dec 10, 2009 11:56 AM EST up reply actions
navi is on the weigh watchers program right in time to be non-tendered
--Gerald Wallace is the best player the Bobcats will have..... EVER
--Someone should slap Larry Brown and bring him back to reality..
exactly
is there really any fault that can be blamed to this FO? They decided to push the payroll again…if fans don’t show up this year, the area doesn’t deserve a baseball team. Period.
by raysfaninminnesota on Dec 10, 2009 11:52 AM EST up reply actions
They won't turn out any better than last year prior to falling out of contention
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by FreeZorilla on Dec 10, 2009 11:53 AM EST up reply actions
This town does not understand how long a MLB season is
The rays need to get out of the gate fast or these morons will be talkiong about their one win football team by May
They may win against the Jets
TWO WINZ
by Transplanted on Dec 10, 2009 11:55 AM EST up reply actions
Well duh, they can't handle backup QBs.
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by PlayOnWords on Dec 10, 2009 11:57 AM EST up reply actions
questionable
--Gerald Wallace is the best player the Bobcats will have..... EVER
--Someone should slap Larry Brown and bring him back to reality..
The TB area has until 2016 to get the support the Rays need
otherwise risk losing them
by Transplanted on Dec 10, 2009 11:54 AM EST up reply actions
OT: This is awesome
The Orlando Magic’s Stan Van Gundy will seek to become the first NBA head coach to capture the Foot Locker Three-Point Shootout crown, which will be held on Saturday, Feb. 13, at American Airlines Center, as part of NBA All-Star Saturday Night.
http://www.thirdquartercollapse.com/
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by Andy Hellicksonstine on Dec 10, 2009 11:53 AM EST reply actions
NBA needs more fun stuff like this broadcast, 3 point contest is boring as watching paint dry.
I can't wait until we trade him for a reliever.
I'd like to see SVG vs. Phil in the 3 point contest
At least it would be fun(ny) to watch.
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by Andy Hellicksonstine on Dec 10, 2009 12:26 PM EST up reply actions
Honestly, I think it works better if he can't
I wanna see the Penguin out there jacking bricks for 3 mins, it would be even better if JVG was hanging off his ankle.
I'm a writer.
by Andy Hellicksonstine on Dec 10, 2009 12:30 PM EST up reply actions
Shoot those 3's now big bro

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by Andy Hellicksonstine on Dec 10, 2009 12:31 PM EST up reply actions
And 2 picks when he leaves
Wooo-hooooo
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by Andy Hellicksonstine on Dec 10, 2009 12:00 PM EST up reply actions
Assuming he agreed to decline arb
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by FreeZorilla on Dec 10, 2009 12:01 PM EST up reply actions
What's the 2011 FA Reliever market like potentially?
Were a lot of BP guys floating around this year
by Transplanted on Dec 10, 2009 12:02 PM EST up reply actions
OT: Jeff Luc commits to FSU.
Horseshit.
I'm a Brett Favre honk so FUCK YOU!
by PriceMultiCyYoungs on Dec 10, 2009 12:00 PM EST reply actions
Lemarcus Joyner too
an even better prospect did last night
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by CubFanRaysaddict on Dec 10, 2009 12:06 PM EST up reply actions
Thought Luc was the top player in the country?
Either way, it suprises me. I wonder if they’re there if the Ol’ Man is still around?
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by PriceMultiCyYoungs on Dec 10, 2009 12:07 PM EST up reply actions
Luc's star has fallen some
Joyner is #5 on ESPN. Luc is #6, they are the two highest ranked committed players
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by CubFanRaysaddict on Dec 10, 2009 12:09 PM EST up reply actions
We'll see if they stay that way.
FSU bringing in more 5* to go 6-6. Cute. At least they win every recruiting season.
you're an idiot,,,,jk
FSU will be back with the new coaching staff, WF-fluke
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by CubFanRaysaddict on Dec 10, 2009 12:23 PM EST up reply actions
Players play, coaches coach
The guys running the team next year have been running it the last 2
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by Andy Hellicksonstine on Dec 10, 2009 12:25 PM EST up reply actions
ya except not
Jimbo was 4th in the overall power structure last year, 5 new coaches this year, and FSU would have easily been 8-4 with pee wee league defense last year, i’m not saying they will be top 15 next year, but two-three years from now that’s not a strech.
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by CubFanRaysaddict on Dec 10, 2009 12:28 PM EST up reply actions
I will acknowledge the lost of
500cc’s of silicone from our side line…RIP Sterger left and Sterger right
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by CubFanRaysaddict on Dec 10, 2009 12:29 PM EST up reply actions
I didn't like Jimbo as the replacement.
Had he not been with the program, would he have been the top pick to replace Bowden? I’d hope not. You guys would probably have Mark Richt or Brian Kelly right now.
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by PriceMultiCyYoungs on Dec 10, 2009 12:30 PM EST up reply actions
Couldnt be happier with Jimbo
had one of the best offenses in the country before Ponder got hurt. Players like him. Not his fault that there were barely functioning, senile old men “coaching” the defense last year.
by BJ the Bossman on Dec 10, 2009 12:31 PM EST up reply actions
Define
One of the best offenses in the country
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by Andy Hellicksonstine on Dec 10, 2009 12:32 PM EST up reply actions
Not the original post I was looking for
But this sums it up pretty nicely. I look for a better one though hold on
http://www.tomahawknation.com/2009/11/17/1160965/florida-state-football-performance
by BJ the Bossman on Dec 10, 2009 12:34 PM EST up reply actions
Without reading this I have do wonder at the bias of the source
I'm a writer.
by Andy Hellicksonstine on Dec 10, 2009 12:39 PM EST up reply actions
So anyone could say to one of your statistical articles
(like this one mostly is) the same thing if it were about the Rays.
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by CubFanRaysaddict on Dec 10, 2009 12:40 PM EST up reply actions
My bias comes through in my words, but numbers are numbers
I’ve read some of their stuff and it’s incredibly long-winded for me. They do a great job, it’s just too much for me to read about a school that I don’t care about, about a sport that is about 6th on my priority scale.
I'm a writer.
by Andy Hellicksonstine on Dec 10, 2009 12:44 PM EST up reply actions
Ya, if you like basketball at all
their stuff is up there with 3QC
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by CubFanRaysaddict on Dec 10, 2009 12:48 PM EST up reply actions
I like 3QC, but only because or e and Ben
Those guys are really, really good at what they do, but the community is kind of weak, not much personality, and they don’t seem to get all that excited about the team. The Mag are looking strong and no one seems to give a shit.
I'm a writer.
by Andy Hellicksonstine on Dec 10, 2009 12:54 PM EST up reply actions
And they are just going to get better
on defense and offense (with Nelson), but ya 3QC needs a better community and deserves one, TrueCubbie over at TN is just as good as E and Ben, and is able to go into a lot more depth because of less frequent games.
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by CubFanRaysaddict on Dec 10, 2009 1:03 PM EST up reply actions
I think it's just more to do with priorities
I don’t care that much about NCAAF. I’ll watch and follow a little, but it’s something to look at while I’m sipping a bloody mary on a Saturday
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by Andy Hellicksonstine on Dec 10, 2009 1:04 PM EST up reply actions
I'm more of a basketball fan
I skip most of their football stuff, except recruiting, but their basketball coverage is top notch, though wordy like you said.
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by CubFanRaysaddict on Dec 10, 2009 1:08 PM EST up reply actions
Which is absolutely fine if that is the reason you are there,
but doesn’t get casual fans to give it more than a glance.
I'm a writer.
by Andy Hellicksonstine on Dec 10, 2009 1:11 PM EST up reply actions
Yup
casual fan looks at the four factors of winning and has the same response they do to Pitchfx or your spreadsheets for that matter.
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by CubFanRaysaddict on Dec 10, 2009 1:12 PM EST up reply actions
Yeah, nobody likes my stuff
I'm a writer.
by Andy Hellicksonstine on Dec 10, 2009 1:14 PM EST up reply actions
http://www.footballoutsiders.com/stats/ncaaoff2009
Well heres a different one from an unbiased source
by BJ the Bossman on Dec 10, 2009 12:41 PM EST up reply actions
Thanks that's all that I'm asking for
I'm a writer.
by Andy Hellicksonstine on Dec 10, 2009 12:43 PM EST up reply actions
Just because you're uninformed on the source doesn't mean it's wrong.
Essentially it would be like questioning Dave’s work on USS Mariner because he’s a fan. TN uses advanced statistics and process over results.
Tools Whore
I know this, but there are other sources out there doing the same thing
When reading/writing about the Rays I look at 3rd party sources, as well, to see if there are any discrepancies. I’m just leery to take one opinion, even if they are known for stout and good work.
I'm a writer.
by Andy Hellicksonstine on Dec 10, 2009 12:47 PM EST up reply actions
I like how they have UCF 23rd in the nation on defense, but 101 on offense
Nothing changes, at least the drunk is churning out NFL defensive talent.
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by Andy Hellicksonstine on Dec 10, 2009 1:20 PM EST up reply actions
I don't know
he’s done an amazing job on the offensive side of things, and with the new coaches I feel pretty good, if not eh I went to FSU during Chris Rix, i’m used to it lol.
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by CubFanRaysaddict on Dec 10, 2009 12:32 PM EST up reply actions
You really don't know what the hell you're talking about here.
Jimbo, as mentioned hasn’t had any real power before a week or so ago and he fired damn near the entire defensive staff.
His offense was the best in the ACC and when Ponder was healthy was Top-10 nationally and probably Top-5.
Tools Whore
This
Offense was down right nasty. And not to mention very young.
by BJ the Bossman on Dec 10, 2009 12:37 PM EST up reply actions
like that BYU defense
or the Miami one, where we didn’t put up any points in either game
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by CubFanRaysaddict on Dec 10, 2009 12:39 PM EST up reply actions
As in ACC defenses?
Like UNC and GTech having two of the better defenses in the country and FSU bending them both over?
by BJ the Bossman on Dec 10, 2009 12:39 PM EST up reply actions
For a carcass they attract a lot of pretty buzzards
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by CubFanRaysaddict on Dec 10, 2009 12:38 PM EST up reply actions
So?
What did they do the last 5 years with the best recruiting class in the ACC every year? Do you know anything about football recruiting? Stars don’t equal talent. They equal offers. Maybe if FSU developed some talent it might be different.
No agreed
that has been the problem obviously, you just don’t know anything about what’s going on at FSU now and are just assuming it will be the same as it was under Bowden.
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by CubFanRaysaddict on Dec 10, 2009 12:41 PM EST up reply actions
I have a pretty good idea about what is going on at FSU.
I follow CFB about as closely as MLB. I doubt you’d say I have little idea about what’s going on with the Red Sox or Yankees.
Of course not
It’s just I probably have more hope for jimbo than you do, because of the offenses i’ve witnessed under other coaches and what he has been able to do, and whoever our D coordinator is will do better (not better than Andrews) but better than last year.
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by CubFanRaysaddict on Dec 10, 2009 12:45 PM EST up reply actions
The NFL reminds me of this on a weekly basis
(Bouldin, Washington, etc..)
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by CubFanRaysaddict on Dec 10, 2009 12:41 PM EST up reply actions
Washington was more recent, not Fisher recent I believe
bouldin older, but besides defense, we haven’t been able to develop offensive stars (until Ponder with fisher).
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by CubFanRaysaddict on Dec 10, 2009 12:43 PM EST up reply actions
all's i'm saying
is it’s practically a brand new staff, no more senile Bobby Bowden
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by CubFanRaysaddict on Dec 10, 2009 12:44 PM EST up reply actions
He was just a figurehead at this point anyway
Bad Left Hook - The SB Nation boxing blog
"Baseball is played on the field, not on a calculator."
But he still choose the power structure
Chuck Amato was a head of Jimbo (IIRC), I don’t know hope and change and hope it works better for us than it has for others who chant that.
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by CubFanRaysaddict on Dec 10, 2009 12:46 PM EST up reply actions
(not political)
just hope its not meet the new boss same as the old one
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by CubFanRaysaddict on Dec 10, 2009 12:47 PM EST up reply actions
This was my point
I'm a writer.
by Andy Hellicksonstine on Dec 10, 2009 12:48 PM EST up reply actions
Washington was still barely a first day pick that was preseason ACC POY if I remember correctly.
He was mired as a third down back until someone else coached him up.
Oh that's what i'm saying
we could not develop talent, we have had some good players, I def. agree with you there.
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by CubFanRaysaddict on Dec 10, 2009 12:45 PM EST up reply actions
FSU eventually has to rebound to at least mediocrity, right?
Don’t they? Blind squirrel / nut scenario?
Why?
It seems that everyone is better. FSU was great when they had 2 competitors on the greatest mine of talent in the nation. Now everyone has players from Florida.
I'm a writer.
by Andy Hellicksonstine on Dec 10, 2009 1:05 PM EST up reply actions
Eh
True but FSU wasnt bad long enough to lose a stranglehold on the state of Florida. Look at UF. Four bad years under Zook, kick in the ass from Meyer, and theyre right back on top. Kids from FL flock to UF, FSU, and Miami. Just the way it is cus they still get you to the NFL as well as any school in the country.
by BJ the Bossman on Dec 10, 2009 1:07 PM EST up reply actions
Also FSU continues to have great recruiting classes
since Bowden left FSU has shot up from like #35 to top 15 (9 on ESPN), but like glass said we still need to change the past and develop these players.
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by CubFanRaysaddict on Dec 10, 2009 1:09 PM EST up reply actions
FSU's never gotten quite bad enough to completely become a laughing stock
And that’s unfortunate. There was so much animosity among the Bowden holdovers last year (especially Amato), more than was reported. Addition by subtraction, although Jimbo really hasn’t done much with the offense yet.
I disagree about the offense
offensive effeciency stats were off the charts with Ponder, and not bad with EJ Manuel, also you probably know this but Amato punched Fisher on a plane this year, so that got more out into the open also.
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by CubFanRaysaddict on Dec 10, 2009 1:14 PM EST up reply actions
Yeah, the punch is out there
But Bobby was pretty loyal to his boys and never got any of that stuff “fixed” and there were other incidents. Friend of a friend thing. Chucky will be coaching high school somewhere next year, maybe. FSU with Ponder scared me as a Gator fan… the first half of 09 was the only period during Jimbo’s tenure when their offense was close to their “standard”. If they don’t beat the Gators in ’10 at Doak, they never will.
haha
ya, no doubting how good the Gators are/will be again. I’d give Jimbo until ‘11 to make any judgments as head coach though, and like you said the jury is still kind of out there on the offense. Most important thing is the D, Tebow’s tears couldn’t heal those wounds.
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by CubFanRaysaddict on Dec 10, 2009 1:20 PM EST up reply actions
Tebow cries because he cares
Wonder how many tears Carlos Dunlap shed during the Alabama game…
true
My sister who goes to UF got all pissed at me for the Jesus Wept picture (It’s my profile pic on here too), but i’m not one of those macho football guys whose gonna hold it against him, shit I cried every time for four years straight my little league team lost the championship game by 10+ runs. Also all the Florida schools need to do a better job of character recruiting, only thing is someone is going to take those guys, and they’re not going to commit to crappy schools either.
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by CubFanRaysaddict on Dec 10, 2009 1:25 PM EST up reply actions
Yeah man
I don’t know how anybody could criticize a guy for being upset seeing a dream dashed… I guess he’ll just have to settle for two national championships, a Heisman, and a #3 national finish. Agree with you on the character recruiting, and the hammer needs to absolutely come down when they do something stupid. Let the thugs go to Tennessee… he’ll take them.
Just kills you guys, doesn't it?
Can’t stand seeing the guy be legit! There’s some money in it for whoever can dig up some dirt on him and get it to TMZ… funny that there’s still nothing. News flash: he’ll screw up. We all do. He’ll just overcome it better than you or I would.
I have a lot of faith in the guy completely detached from reality to deal with failure in the future.
by Samwise Sutty on Dec 10, 2009 1:32 PM EST up reply actions
He can always fall back on that Philapino Circumcising business that his
dad runs.
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by Andy Hellicksonstine on Dec 10, 2009 1:35 PM EST up reply actions
People will applaud when he falls for the same reason that people applaud
when Moral Majorists nationwide eventually get caught molesting a baby. Nobody likes to be told they are less of a person for any reason.
I'm a writer.
by Andy Hellicksonstine on Dec 10, 2009 1:35 PM EST up reply actions
It's a general statement, I'm sure you can find your own links
Also
DidGlennBeckRapeAndMurderAYoungGirlIn1990.com
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by Andy Hellicksonstine on Dec 10, 2009 1:38 PM EST up reply actions
No, link to Tebow
Saying/doing anything to make you feel less of a person. Dude NEVER has pointed the finger at anyone, at least not that I know of.
Meh, I don't think anyone actually dislikes Tebow.
It’s the constant worship, especially with the knowledge that he’s going to be a terrible pro quarterback.
He’s not the only player to ever step on the field and he’s not the only player on his team.. you wouldn’t know that from broadcasts, though.
by Samwise Sutty on Dec 10, 2009 1:42 PM EST up reply actions
Hey man, He's the first one in that terrible system ever to put up gawdy numbers.
Officially now the head of the Lobstein bandwagon.
Uh, Alex Smith?
And good college numbers don’t equate to good pro quarterback.
by Samwise Sutty on Dec 10, 2009 1:44 PM EST up reply actions
Your name change obviously didn't transfer any semblence of a sarcasm detector.
Officially now the head of the Lobstein bandwagon.
No, I make the assumption you're going to say something retarded, not sarcastic.
by Samwise Sutty on Dec 10, 2009 1:45 PM EST up reply actions
He specifically called me out
I'm a writer.
by Andy Hellicksonstine on Dec 10, 2009 1:43 PM EST up reply actions
TEBOW CRIES BECAUSE HE'S A BAD CHRISTIAN! DIDN'T YOU SEE YESTERDAY'S ARTICLE!?
I can't wait until we trade him for a reliever.
It's just some silliness from yesterdays trade thread. I don't even know if the site is legit or parody.
I can't wait until we trade him for a reliever.
Please go up and read the link I posted about the offense
I dont see why people dont think the offense was good. With Ponder, it was top 15 in the country. And we only lose Caz
by BJ the Bossman on Dec 10, 2009 1:15 PM EST up reply actions
Note my reply above
The offense was pretty good with Ponder, but the first half of this year is the first time the FSU offense was anything close to good under Jimbo. However, with so many back on the O next year, they should be respectable to good on offense. 10-2 or 7-5 depends on how well they replace Mickey Andrews’ scheme.
The best answer I have to this argument: Indiana Basketball
I can't wait until we trade him for a reliever.
Even better:
Michigan basketball
Bad Left Hook - The SB Nation boxing blog
"Baseball is played on the field, not on a calculator."
Or Michigan football, for that matter
at the rate they’re going
Bad Left Hook - The SB Nation boxing blog
"Baseball is played on the field, not on a calculator."
As long as the Big Televen is soft, they'll have a shot.
I can't wait until we trade him for a reliever.
I mean the ADs at UM just want the basketball team to stay clean.
They don’t care what they do on the court.
good god
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It looks like a lot of money
If we get two #1’s and 1 yr of Soriano, its worth it. If we can dump Wheeler for a Jesse Chavez its even better.
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Also important to note that this may be an off-year for Boston
Best to go for it in 2010
by Transplanted on Dec 10, 2009 12:04 PM EST up reply actions
I'd have to think Wheels is likely on the block for a prospect
Sign Kiko for a lot less than his $3.75 mil
Even if you can't ge a prospect, maybe some more caish
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by FreeZorilla on Dec 10, 2009 12:05 PM EST up reply actions
perhaps stu thought it was opposite day?
“the bank is closed”…no 7 mil closer. I’m just waiting for him to gather reporters together and tell them, “I got you guys good!”
by raysfaninminnesota on Dec 10, 2009 12:04 PM EST reply actions
That was before the Zerpa loot arrived
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by FreeZorilla on Dec 10, 2009 12:05 PM EST up reply actions
Anyone know how much Chan-Ho Park would cost?
He’s on the market, right?
I'm a Brett Favre honk so FUCK YOU!
by PriceMultiCyYoungs on Dec 10, 2009 12:05 PM EST reply actions
Still shocked we gave him so much even though I love it
JP – Soriano
you better beating us after 7 or you are fucked!
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think if we do keep Wheels and sign Calero
Soriano, Howell, Balfour,Wheeler, and Calero? Way to take the bullpen from a weakness to a strength.
by raysfaninminnesota on Dec 10, 2009 12:12 PM EST up reply actions
haha Buster Olney says we still want Doc
Did Stu start shitting money or something?
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Goldman Sach's stock did pretty well this year I think
So maybe
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by CubFanRaysaddict on Dec 10, 2009 12:13 PM EST up reply actions
Everyone wants Halladay
I bet he’d like to be a Ray, He’d stop losing so much
by Transplanted on Dec 10, 2009 12:15 PM EST up reply actions
non-guaranteed contract
that’s odd
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by CubFanRaysaddict on Dec 10, 2009 12:11 PM EST reply actions
Did payroll go up to get him at $7MM or are there other dominos to fall?
Signature space available for rent - Got to pay the bills somehow
Probably going up
But that means no new contracts this year I bet
by Transplanted on Dec 10, 2009 12:14 PM EST up reply actions
many financial flexibility options
less payroll next year…bradley for burrell savings possible…wheeler trade possible…a variety of ways his money could fit. Or Stu could just say, screw it, and throw a few more mil into it.
by raysfaninminnesota on Dec 10, 2009 12:14 PM EST up reply actions
Stu could always have planned on expanding budget
Playing the tight money card increases our leverage considerably.
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by FreeZorilla on Dec 10, 2009 12:15 PM EST up reply actions
While they are just rumors
Rays have been connected with some expensive players, maybe they are expanding the budget.
Navarro, Gross, and Wheeler getting the boot would essentially cover the 7M.
by R.J. Anderson on Dec 10, 2009 12:15 PM EST up reply actions
The Navi clock is winding down, hurrah
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by FreeZorilla on Dec 10, 2009 12:16 PM EST up reply actions
I'm under the assumption that
Navarro & Gross are basically out the door already
by Transplanted on Dec 10, 2009 12:16 PM EST up reply actions
I remember the heater had a interview up with Maddon
And he kept talking about the Joyce/Kapler platoon,must of made Gross feel real safe
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The Royals will sign him
For a lot of money
by Transplanted on Dec 10, 2009 12:19 PM EST up reply actions
The Royals aren't smart enough to know that he's good.
by R.J. Anderson on Dec 10, 2009 12:21 PM EST up reply actions
Mike Jacobs ends up with the Bravos.
Book it.
I'm a Brett Favre honk so FUCK YOU!
by PriceMultiCyYoungs on Dec 10, 2009 12:22 PM EST up reply actions
We can also save 4-5M by trading Craw around the ASB and promoting Deezy
I hope he tears Durham up this year to make this possible.
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by Andy Hellicksonstine on Dec 10, 2009 12:18 PM EST up reply actions
I would like to see Craw get his ring this year, but I would think he could fetch quite a bit more at the Deadline
What would Granderson have pulled back if they traded him at the deadline?
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by Andy Hellicksonstine on Dec 10, 2009 12:20 PM EST up reply actions
Less, right?
They would be trading for 2 months vs a full year so the value would be lower.
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by PriceMultiCyYoungs on Dec 10, 2009 12:20 PM EST up reply actions
Granderson was cheaper though
He was signed cheaper through 2012
by Transplanted on Dec 10, 2009 12:21 PM EST up reply actions
I think you're overrating what two months of Crawford nets you.
by R.J. Anderson on Dec 10, 2009 12:23 PM EST up reply actions
2 picks and lets say 1.5 WAR
If you have a negative player there at the moment, that 1.5 boost is quite a bit. Not to mention he makes an average OF, good.
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by Andy Hellicksonstine on Dec 10, 2009 12:24 PM EST up reply actions
What contending team is going to have a negative WAR OF staring for them?
by R.J. Anderson on Dec 10, 2009 12:25 PM EST up reply actions
starting*
Even with injuries, I think that’s expecting too much.
by R.J. Anderson on Dec 10, 2009 12:26 PM EST up reply actions
Umm the Red Sox were getting essentially - value out of their SS conundrum last year and they made the playoffs
I would think SS is more important than LF, sooo…
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by Andy Hellicksonstine on Dec 10, 2009 12:27 PM EST up reply actions
Oh but I am
Lugo -.3
Green 0.4
Woodward 0.0
A-Gon 1.2
A little over 1 WAR from the position that benefits the most from positional adjustments
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by Andy Hellicksonstine on Dec 10, 2009 12:33 PM EST up reply actions
Right.
But shortstop is more difficult to fill than a corner outfield spot. You know this.
by R.J. Anderson on Dec 10, 2009 12:35 PM EST up reply actions
I've got them at -1 wins compared to the average AL SS
by Andy Hellicksonstine on Dec 10, 2009 12:37 PM EST up reply actions
You should also guess there's more players able to play a passable LF than a passable SS.
That seems to be the part you’re ignoring.
by R.J. Anderson on Dec 10, 2009 12:39 PM EST up reply actions
Not on the WAR scale thanks to the positional adjustments
Correct me if I’m wrong, but a -10 UZR SS = 0 UZR LF, right? The numbers might need to be tweaked somewhat, but the point stands.
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by Andy Hellicksonstine on Dec 10, 2009 12:42 PM EST up reply actions
I don't understand what you're saying.
Look at the positional spectrum. Just about anyone can play COF and play it better than their current position. It’s not hard to move from second/third/short to left field and perform well with the glove. Not many 3B/2B/OF are moving to short and doing well.
by R.J. Anderson on Dec 10, 2009 12:43 PM EST up reply actions
Depends on how good you are at defense.
Generally speaking though, I think it’s more common to see a replacement level shortstop starting for a contender than a replacement level corner outfielder.
by R.J. Anderson on Dec 10, 2009 12:46 PM EST up reply actions
16 LF's with 2+ WAR, 18 SS's with 2+ WAR
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by Andy Hellicksonstine on Dec 10, 2009 12:39 PM EST up reply actions
Also, I don't even want to imagine how stupid the reaction from this area would be.
We dealt Kazmir when we had little shot at the playoffs and most people still say we “quit on the season”.
by R.J. Anderson on Dec 10, 2009 12:25 PM EST up reply actions
If we win, what's the difference?
If we had won after Scotty left they wouldn’t have given a shit.
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by Andy Hellicksonstine on Dec 10, 2009 12:28 PM EST up reply actions
They would have gone to the games to do their whining
If you don’t win, they don’t come in this market. It’s a GD shame and an embarassment.
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by Andy Hellicksonstine on Dec 10, 2009 12:34 PM EST up reply actions
Imagine trying to move Kazmir this off-season
I shudder to think of the horror
by Transplanted on Dec 10, 2009 12:28 PM EST up reply actions
The team laid down after that trade, it was far too drastic a collapse to be nothing but coincidence.
I can't wait until we trade him for a reliever.
And? We're not talking about what happened after.
At the time, the playoffs weren’t a realistic option.
by R.J. Anderson on Dec 10, 2009 12:40 PM EST up reply actions
Yep.
You’re talking about unrealistic fans, as was I.
I can't wait until we trade him for a reliever.
I generally don't concern myself with them.
But when it comes to trading a big name, I can only see the dumbasses scream money dump, even if we got a solid return.
by R.J. Anderson on Dec 10, 2009 12:45 PM EST up reply actions
Which is why I'm saying I can't imagine dealing CC at the deadline if we're still within 5-7 games of a playoff spot.
This town would literally go bonkers.
by R.J. Anderson on Dec 10, 2009 12:42 PM EST up reply actions
We could do it and just put Deezy in a Crawford jersey
all these honkeys wont notice
by BJ the Bossman on Dec 10, 2009 12:43 PM EST up reply actions
As long as they keep the darkie in the corner, nobody sees him anyway.
I can't wait until we trade him for a reliever.
Team played fine
The bullpen forgot it had to pitch to win games
by Transplanted on Dec 10, 2009 12:41 PM EST up reply actions
oh shut up already
MLB.com winter meetings live thing was asked about the Soriano trade and they wind up discussing Granderson
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ESPN just spent a whole minute on Soriano
was that more than MLB?
by Transplanted on Dec 10, 2009 12:25 PM EST up reply actions
about 35 seconds more...
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Bullpen shows Rays want team depth
The Rays appear to know more than many that team depth is what keeps you going through a 162 game season. The minor league depth and platoons help the team keep plugging along in case of injury. At short there’s Brignac. At second there’s Zobrist/Sean-Rod/Brig, at OF there’s CC/Upton/Joyce/Kapler/Jennings etc…pitching depth and now relief depth.
This is important for a team like the Rays that can’t afford replacements like other teams if someone gets hurt. Depth is what keeps this team going. And getting Soriano gave late-game depth to pair with Howell, thus making the rest of the bullpen stronger.
by raysfaninminnesota on Dec 10, 2009 12:25 PM EST reply actions
*self promotion*
More on Soriano on beyondtheboxscore.com
www.draysbay.com, www.beyondtheboxscore.com, Twitter @trancel
by Tommy Rancel on Dec 10, 2009 12:41 PM EST via mobile reply actions
Maybe its time to reprioritize the list in your tagline
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by FreeZorilla on Dec 10, 2009 12:43 PM EST up reply actions
So, lets see
Rays trade for Soriano
Sox MAY trade Lowell
but guess which one is being talked about more
I swear if we got Halladay, they would talk about the Yankees stole Granderson still
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One is a name, the other isn't
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"Baseball is played on the field, not on a calculator."
Lowell is a little more exciting
Soriano trade is a bit ordinary
I did see the Angels make an “offer” to the Jays for Halladay
by Transplanted on Dec 10, 2009 12:44 PM EST up reply actions
The mainstream media loves closers
In terms of smart fans no, but the MM doens’t cater to the smarts.
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by FreeZorilla on Dec 10, 2009 12:46 PM EST up reply actions
I'm trying to think how many closer signings got massive hoopla that didn't involve players named 'Rodriguez' last year.
I can’t think of any.
I can't wait until we trade him for a reliever.
Fuentes/Wood?
(I don’t know for certain)
by R.J. Anderson on Dec 10, 2009 12:48 PM EST up reply actions
thats all well and good
but why are they talking about Chris Ray so much more also?
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Because mainstream media absolutely hates this team. They think they're the devil and want to see the Bay Area sink into the gulf of mexico.
Keep believing those conspiracy theories chief. You won’t have to worry about them much longer anyway.
I can't wait until we trade him for a reliever.
Only 1 year though
It’s gonna be a sucky haul
by Transplanted on Dec 10, 2009 12:49 PM EST up reply actions
I wonder
if AF will give any thought to moving Bartlett now to help offset Soriano’s salary?
I doubt it
would’ve already have happened
by Transplanted on Dec 10, 2009 12:48 PM EST up reply actions
Depends on what's offered
Now’s the time to sell high. If you can get something good in return, I think you make the deal, and I think that was true before the Soriano trade as well.
Bad Left Hook - The SB Nation boxing blog
"Baseball is played on the field, not on a calculator."
The money Soriano is getting is not guaranteed.
Does that mean he has to earn it by playing or performing to a certain goal?
It means that if they cut him at any point during the season, he's not paid for what's left.
I guess it gives them an immediate escape route if the team’s not competing; and he should be good enough to quickly latch on somewhere else.
I can't wait until we trade him for a reliever.
I forget how he did in the AL
How was he with the Mariners?
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75 Saves without allowing a run
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by Andy Hellicksonstine on Dec 10, 2009 12:55 PM EST up reply actions
bad, great, good-great
bad was his rookie year, the other greats are his larger sample sizes ‘03 1.8 FIP,’06 3.43 FIP
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by CubFanRaysaddict on Dec 10, 2009 12:56 PM EST up reply actions
Yeah, I looked it up
He was a bad SP, has pretty much always been good to great as a RP
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not predicting such
But Pat the Bat was expected to adjust well to the AL/DH as well. So its a very shred insurance.
I don't think that's how it works in MLB
I’m pretty sure, in MLB, it just means that if he makes the roster, he gets paid, but if he’s cut during spring training he wouldn’t, and if he gets sent down to AAA, he would get AAA salary and not major league salary. All contracts become guaranteed once the season starts.
Bad Left Hook - The SB Nation boxing blog
"Baseball is played on the field, not on a calculator."
I'll take your word for it since I don't really know.
I can't wait until we trade him for a reliever.
Nats blurb on Wloarczyk
On Wlodarczyk: “He’s a left-handed specialist. We think he’s a guy who can get lefties out. [Director of pro scouting] Bill Singer recommended him. He adds to our inventory of left-handed relievers.” [Note: assistant GM Bob Boone said he expects Wlodarczyk to begin next season in low Class A.]
http://voices.washingtonpost.com/nationalsjournal/2009/12/nationals_losing_lots_of_zs.html
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Him and Rczypzenski
Should pal around. No one would know how to spell their names
by Transplanted on Dec 10, 2009 12:53 PM EST up reply actions
So he doesn't have to stay on the 25man?
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by Andy Hellicksonstine on Dec 10, 2009 12:53 PM EST up reply actions
He was taken in AAA phase
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by FreeZorilla on Dec 10, 2009 12:54 PM EST up reply actions
Low Class A?
Jesus Christ the guy’s 50 yo for chrissake
Yea, i thought it funny too
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by FreeZorilla on Dec 10, 2009 12:54 PM EST up reply actions
Really posted that just for you
Gets picked in AAA phase and drops two levels
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by FreeZorilla on Dec 10, 2009 12:55 PM EST up reply actions
So much for Nevin the Defensive Warlord joining a team.
by R.J. Anderson on Dec 10, 2009 12:56 PM EST up reply actions
If Will Carroll was a GM, he would have been sniped
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by FreeZorilla on Dec 10, 2009 12:58 PM EST up reply actions
Sorry for my ignorance
can someone give me a sentence or two on how the AAA/AA portion of this worked?
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by CubFanRaysaddict on Dec 10, 2009 12:53 PM EST up reply actions
If someone's been around for long enough
and they’re not on the AAA roster, than another team can take him. No need to clear through waivers to send to a lower level in the AAA/AA portions – the team just keeps him.
Wlodarczyk had his moments early in his career, but he’s old and his velocity (and effectiveness) have dropped. No huge loss.
Bad Left Hook - The SB Nation boxing blog
"Baseball is played on the field, not on a calculator."
And almost nobody taken in the AAA/AA portions ever makes the majors
Almost always minor league filler.
Bad Left Hook - The SB Nation boxing blog
"Baseball is played on the field, not on a calculator."
Thanks
the people who press the names on the back of the jerseys got a W today.
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by CubFanRaysaddict on Dec 10, 2009 12:56 PM EST up reply actions
My guess is he'll go into ST with a task of winning a job
Otherwise be banished
by Transplanted on Dec 10, 2009 12:57 PM EST up reply actions
I'd guess Talbot
seems to fit CLE better
by Transplanted on Dec 10, 2009 1:04 PM EST up reply actions
I heard
Talbot and Joe Cruz are the names on the list. I’d be leaning Talbot if I were the Indians. In a couple years, there’s a pretty decent chance Cruz will look like … Mitch Talbot.
by fleerdon on Dec 11, 2009 4:16 PM EST up reply actions
More like Brignac or Rodriguez.
The dudes at TalkingChop told me so.
by R.J. Anderson on Dec 10, 2009 1:04 PM EST up reply actions
I heard from Huffpo
Pena’s whiffs are the only thing keeping the polar bears from drowning
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by CubFanRaysaddict on Dec 10, 2009 1:06 PM EST up reply actions
His windmilling is strong enough to singlehandedly power the entire midwestern united states.
I can't wait until we trade him for a reliever.
well with Shoppach
Upton, Longo, Pena, etc.. It shouldn’t be long until we start selling carbon offsets.
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by CubFanRaysaddict on Dec 10, 2009 1:13 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
but for who
unless McGee is coming right to the bigs
I see our 7 guys as Soriano, Howell, Balfour, Wheeler, Cormier, Choate and Sonny
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We need to see the NT period pass first
by Transplanted on Dec 10, 2009 1:00 PM EST up reply actions
I wrote Choate but I am voting for Swindle for loogy in 2010!
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its Swindle, not Anderson
Swindle is awesome
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RJ loves RJ
no shock there
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Your signatures are the worst
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by Andy Hellicksonstine on Dec 10, 2009 1:09 PM EST up reply actions
shh writer
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You mean "shhh freelance market analyst"
by Samwise Sutty on Dec 10, 2009 1:26 PM EST up reply actions
Your memory is astounding
Especially for a new user
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by Andy Hellicksonstine on Dec 10, 2009 1:26 PM EST up reply actions
I'm like an boozed up, snuff-machine elephant.
I’m sure PoW regrets everything’s he’s ever told me BECAUSE I REMEMBER EVERYTHING.
by Samwise Sutty on Dec 10, 2009 1:28 PM EST up reply actions
I know but if it is
those would be our 7 guys, McGee wont be up for a while
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It helps there were no other trades that mattered
by Transplanted on Dec 10, 2009 12:58 PM EST up reply actions
This.
I’m still hoping they find someone to take Navarro off our hands as an indication that they’re definitely going with KS
I can't wait until we trade him for a reliever.
I figured the trading for a guy like KS proved Navarro is not likely to be back
by Transplanted on Dec 10, 2009 1:01 PM EST up reply actions
I wonder how serious that Salty injury is
because I’m sure they are fine going with Salty/Teagarden
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The Braves fans seem to be taking this hard.....
Brignac was in their grasp…..
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well Braves fans are idiots
they all wanted CC or Los while some wanted CC and Upton
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Not that MLBTR or Talking Chop
is completely encompassing of their fan base, but their trades were right up there with the ones Yank fans make for their non-prospects
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by CubFanRaysaddict on Dec 10, 2009 1:16 PM EST up reply actions
Can you blame them? They lost their superstar closer to us for a sack of magic beans that Pittsburgh threw away.
They wanted the comp picks
Once they didn’t get those, what did they expect?
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this team could be loaded with top picks next year
CC, Pena, Soriano…
Could have Burrell salary off the books (or have Bradley for next to nothing for next year)
that’s what…35 million dollars right there?
Not to mention the uncertainty of the catching position (prove your worth year for Shoppach) and Upton
This team has a lot of questions after this year
by raysfaninminnesota on Dec 10, 2009 1:13 PM EST reply actions
Anybody feel like taking up the opposition position of a "Cuse is going to roll the Gators out of the gym tonight" debate?
Big West goes for 20/6/4, Rautins drill 5 3’s. Onuaku gets 4 dunks and Triche and Jardin combine for another 30.
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by Andy Hellicksonstine on Dec 10, 2009 1:13 PM EST reply actions
Big Wes
Obviously.
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by Andy Hellicksonstine on Dec 10, 2009 1:13 PM EST up reply actions
=eye brows in the way of the basket
key to tonight’s game, half time eye brow shaving-Niko
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by CubFanRaysaddict on Dec 10, 2009 1:17 PM EST up reply actions
http://www.vegas.com/gaming/sportsline_ncaab.html
Dec. 10 Syracuse
6 p.m. at Florida
Favorite SYR SYR SYR
Point spread -3 -2½ -2½
Total +145.5o/u
Total money line -110
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by Andy Hellicksonstine on Dec 10, 2009 1:22 PM EST up reply actions
So Cuse -2.5 to -3
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by Andy Hellicksonstine on Dec 10, 2009 1:22 PM EST up reply actions
Gamblers respecting the little engine that could
it just couldn’t rebound
Agreed I'll give you 5 on an avatar bet
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by Andy Hellicksonstine on Dec 10, 2009 1:26 PM EST up reply actions
Oh come on Mr. Alumnus
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by Andy Hellicksonstine on Dec 10, 2009 1:29 PM EST up reply actions
All I hear is
Rah Rah Rah Goooo Gators Rah Rah Rah Chomp <<<<<<
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by Andy Hellicksonstine on Dec 10, 2009 1:32 PM EST up reply actions
Anyone want Santiago Castilla?
He um….throws hard
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We need to find a fat guy
we are to lose Navi!
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No, but that Jairo Garcia kid sounds like the bomb diggity
Bad Left Hook - The SB Nation boxing blog
"Baseball is played on the field, not on a calculator."
I'd take a chance on him.
Sign him to a minor-league deal. Invite to Spring Training. Done and done.
Eduardo Morlan = God.
It IS guaranteed
There was a report that Soriano’s deal is non-guaranteed. That is not correct. It is guaranteed. Had Soriano gone to arbitration the contract would have been non-guaranteed as are all contracts for free agents that accept (and go to) arbitration.
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After reading Rosenthals article more carefully
that seems correct, also I think you just hyperlink that site as The Site That Shall Not Be Named
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by CubFanRaysaddict on Dec 10, 2009 1:27 PM EST up reply actions
There seems to be awkward tension
DRB never gets a mention there in their daily link section. I don’t know if there is history.
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I like their fan confidence poll
I think raysprospects might be my favorite non-drb Rays site.
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by Andy Hellicksonstine on Dec 10, 2009 1:30 PM EST up reply actions
I believe there is a history - mainly the owner thinks people here (RJ) are a bunch of pompous, know-it-alls.
by Samwise Sutty on Dec 10, 2009 1:30 PM EST up reply actions
lol
“Quite frankly, before now we didn’t think a good discussion forum existed for the Rays. Some were too remote and most included way too much commenter-on-commenter violence and snobby attitudes from those that had been there a while.” speaking of the MLBTR forums, to which I responded “-Penthouse forums is rough get used to it”
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by CubFanRaysaddict on Dec 10, 2009 1:32 PM EST up reply actions
like Glass-RJ arguments in the past
cept a banning took place
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by CubFanRaysaddict on Dec 10, 2009 1:31 PM EST up reply actions
Most of the riff raff has been scared away
I'm a writer.
by Andy Hellicksonstine on Dec 10, 2009 1:32 PM EST up reply actions
Oh I know
I’m just saying they get intense occasionally
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by CubFanRaysaddict on Dec 10, 2009 1:33 PM EST up reply actions
matthan-RJ arguments are my favorite.
The thinly-veiled disgust would be even better if we could watch them exchange contemptuous eye-rolls.
by Samwise Sutty on Dec 10, 2009 1:34 PM EST up reply actions
Matthan deserves from props though. He does some good work and his arguments are better constructed than most.
by Samwise Sutty on Dec 10, 2009 1:36 PM EST up reply actions
He challenges on almost everything but he's smart enough to be right sometimes
Just doesn’t pick his battles. Makes for fun days.
Follow Me on Twitter @FreeZorilla
That's pretty much the definition of cuntwam, except you have to mention he gets defensive when anyone challenges him.
“WHY IS EVERYBODY PICKING ON ME?”
by Samwise Sutty on Dec 10, 2009 1:40 PM EST up reply actions
Matthan makes some good points
then gets all crazy, like when someone agrees with you on politics then starts talking about the physics behind the twin towers going down not making sense, you’re like dammit you almost had me.
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by CubFanRaysaddict on Dec 10, 2009 1:36 PM EST up reply actions
Yes.
He seems to read too much into comments. I wouldn’t mind if it didn’t happen almost every time he posted.
by R.J. Anderson on Dec 10, 2009 1:37 PM EST up reply actions
THERE WAS GOLD UNDERNEATH THE WORLD TRADE CENTER AND A MISSLE HIT THE PENTAGON, NOT A PLANE.
by Samwise Sutty on Dec 10, 2009 1:38 PM EST up reply actions
haha
happened to me a couple of weeks ago, old h.s. friend we were smoking…cigs… and he starts talking about stuff I agree with, and without even a transition breaks into 9-11, damn Tamil Tigers.
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by CubFanRaysaddict on Dec 10, 2009 1:44 PM EST up reply actions
So you agree that this country isn't ready to pony up for National Healthcare
I'm a writer.
by Andy Hellicksonstine on Dec 10, 2009 1:45 PM EST up reply actions
Of course
those are era of good feeling politics, and this country has always had an independent self reliance streak, also if it wasn’t for the Jews we would all be able to afford healthcare.
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by CubFanRaysaddict on Dec 10, 2009 1:53 PM EST up reply actions
Agreed, the Palestinians should have done a better job of framing them on 9/11
It should be noted that the Palestinians were armed and paid by the U.S. to avoid having to get the back of Israel in what I like to call cluster-fuck City.
I'm a writer.
by Andy Hellicksonstine on Dec 10, 2009 1:56 PM EST up reply actions
I've got Matt's back, he's my muse.
I can’t come up with good ideas unless there is blood in the water.
I'm a writer.
by Andy Hellicksonstine on Dec 10, 2009 1:36 PM EST up reply actions
That would have been a better example
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by CubFanRaysaddict on Dec 10, 2009 1:35 PM EST up reply actions
I'm not going to let someone have multiple accounts just to flame users here.
I’m also not putting up with emails full of vulgarity and threats against myself and my readers.
by R.J. Anderson on Dec 10, 2009 1:32 PM EST up reply actions
pussss-aaaaaayyyy
I'm a writer.
by Andy Hellicksonstine on Dec 10, 2009 1:33 PM EST up reply actions
sorry about those
I’m not saying it’s not justified, just a shame it happened because while this site is my homepage, RI is my first favorites link.
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by CubFanRaysaddict on Dec 10, 2009 1:34 PM EST up reply actions
I don't discourage his site or anything.
I don’t care if people read his site. Seriously. I don’t think about the guy or his work. What’s done is done. I’m not going to ban someone for linking to him if he did something good.
by R.J. Anderson on Dec 10, 2009 1:35 PM EST up reply actions
also if those emails are about SRQ
you need to learn to pick your battles better, give up the errr.. little guy, jk
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by CubFanRaysaddict on Dec 10, 2009 1:37 PM EST up reply actions
So he's one of those white ODA rappers you were talking about
a while back
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by CubFanRaysaddict on Dec 10, 2009 1:39 PM EST up reply actions
That was just thinly veiled SRQ criticism
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by CubFanRaysaddict on Dec 10, 2009 1:40 PM EST up reply actions
There's definitely history
Some kind of pissing contest a couple years ago
Bad Left Hook - The SB Nation boxing blog
"Baseball is played on the field, not on a calculator."
It just seems that both sites go out of their way
to not mention the other, after Prof. was banned (though Index does link over here on occasion), it’s a shame both are really good sites, though Prof. doesn’t use the stats that confine us to our basements as much as I would like. Also Prof and RJ in the past didn’t seem to get along to well (understatement), though i’m sure since it’s been so long detente has happened.
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by CubFanRaysaddict on Dec 10, 2009 1:30 PM EST up reply actions
damnit, i forgot another rule
well Site to be named later reported that
Fire and Ice: Rafael Soriano and J.P Howell.......with their side kick Grant the aussie Balfour!
according to talking chop
they get longo’s twitter, we get Bobby Cox’s…damn you Frank Wren got us again
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by CubFanRaysaddict on Dec 10, 2009 1:34 PM EST up reply actions
Rays fans LOVE the trade. Too much
djhmmoh wrote:
Oh and thanks to the FO for pulling this on off! He will add 10 wins easy, if we get some wins from DH this year-LOOKOUT
12/10/2009 12:55:05 PM
I can't wait until we trade him for a reliever.
IF WE GET SOME WINS FROM DH THIS YEAR--LOOKOUT 170 WINS
I can't wait until we trade him for a reliever.
GUISE, I DON'T WANT TO JUMP TO CONCLUSIONS, BUT I THINK THE RAYS MIGHT WIN THE WORLD SERIES AND THE WORLD CUP THIS YEAR.
by Samwise Sutty on Dec 10, 2009 1:29 PM EST up reply actions
Let's pass on the St. Pete Bowl.
I went last year.. boooooooring.
by Samwise Sutty on Dec 10, 2009 1:30 PM EST up reply actions
THE STUPID FRIEDMANS DON'T SPEND ENOUGH MONEY ON PAYROLL, THAT'S WHY THE TEAM SUCKS. ALL THEY CARE ABOUT ARE THEIR STUPID RAYS
I can't wait until we trade him for a reliever.
If it were anyone but Chavez, they would be bitching and crying like Tebow. Half those guys don't even remember who Chavez is.
Why don't the Sox put Youk at 3B and Kotchman at 1B
Instead of trying to sign Beltre and having Kotchman rot on the bench again
Fire and Ice: Rafael Soriano and J.P Howell.......with their side kick Grant the aussie Balfour!
hes a slick defender
but I just want as little pop on that team as possible
Fire and Ice: Rafael Soriano and J.P Howell.......with their side kick Grant the aussie Balfour!
Friedman's on a pursuit of happiness
and he knows everything thats shiny aint always gonna be gold
Officially now the head of the Lobstein bandwagon.
Hey, how's PoW's lawn looking? You making sure it's nice and crisp? Really prefers that grass to be about four inches, tops.
by Samwise Sutty on Dec 10, 2009 1:39 PM EST up reply actions
That's why you mow lawns and I pound that pussychimney.
by Samwise Sutty on Dec 10, 2009 1:41 PM EST up reply actions
This cracked me up, I think it was the FWIW
I'm a writer.
by Andy Hellicksonstine on Dec 10, 2009 1:41 PM EST up reply actions
As someone who worked the lawns for a summer I feel like I can call myself an expert.
Officially now the head of the Lobstein bandwagon.
Sutty & POW's love for each other is really starting to rival PBrady and SRQ
I'm a Brett Favre honk so FUCK YOU!
by PriceMultiCyYoungs on Dec 10, 2009 1:51 PM EST up reply actions
What's your guess on how long the Bradley dilemma takes to be resolved?
The longer it takes, the more it favors us getting him
I'd say Another 48 Hours
starring Nick Nolte and Milton Bradley
I'm a writer.
by Andy Hellicksonstine on Dec 10, 2009 1:46 PM EST up reply actions
Hendry Caves? That's where the Balrog lives!!!!
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We are really mining (of Moria) a lot of LOTR jokes this week.
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Remember to cover your face with a blindfold in order to keep medusa from blinding you.
Pray you have telekenisis from eating a floating eye corpse so you have the mental fortitude to know where she actually is.
Officially now the head of the Lobstein bandwagon.
Shut the fuck up.
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by PlayOnWords on Dec 10, 2009 1:49 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
I'm raising your rent.
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Sure, but I don't actively seek people's approval via the Intrawebs.
That’s what hookers are for.
by Samwise Sutty on Dec 10, 2009 1:52 PM EST up reply actions
P Brady is never getting into Tiger's paw with a Jewfro like that.
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I cut my jewfro a long time ago, get with the times.
Officially now the head of the Lobstein bandwagon.
Oh look at me I cut myself so that I can actually feel something

I'm a writer.
by Andy Hellicksonstine on Dec 10, 2009 1:54 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Who is this fucking faggot?
I'm a Brett Favre honk so FUCK YOU!
by PriceMultiCyYoungs on Dec 10, 2009 1:54 PM EST up reply actions
Are you on Air Force One?
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How is that not a jewfro?
I'm a Brett Favre honk so FUCK YOU!
by PriceMultiCyYoungs on Dec 10, 2009 1:57 PM EST up reply actions
JESUS, REALLY?
I thought it was like a couple years ago and maybe you were like 17 now. Should I feel bad?
by Samwise Sutty on Dec 10, 2009 1:59 PM EST up reply actions
Almost 17
This was taken when I still had my camera[hone so…2 years at least
Officially now the head of the Lobstein bandwagon.
Oh, great!
I was worried you were over 18.. you’d be useless to me then.
by Samwise Sutty on Dec 10, 2009 2:01 PM EST up reply actions
well then
you’ve had your Bar Mitzvah since then, grow up and shave it lower
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by CubFanRaysaddict on Dec 10, 2009 1:59 PM EST up reply actions
You look like a high school chick in costume for a production of Annie.
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by PlayOnWords on Dec 10, 2009 1:58 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
Does that make SRQ Daddy Warbucks?
Also, green.
by Samwise Sutty on Dec 10, 2009 1:58 PM EST up reply actions
It would, but that asshole wouldn't share any of the winnings.
AND THAT TICKET WAS A GIFT.
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by PlayOnWords on Dec 10, 2009 2:01 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Even the Cubs players
with perfect or near perfect clubhouse records (MB opposites) were talking shit about him, he has to get dumped for nothing.
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by CubFanRaysaddict on Dec 10, 2009 1:50 PM EST up reply actions
That David Eckstein is one hell of a ball player
I'm a writer.
by Andy Hellicksonstine on Dec 10, 2009 1:51 PM EST up reply actions
I'm pretty sure Eckstein is related to
sabby piscitelli
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by CubFanRaysaddict on Dec 10, 2009 1:54 PM EST up reply actions
he will eventually be cut
or Hendry will beg Friedman to go back to their old terms
they need Milton gone and everyone knows it
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Damn, I missed a lot of good convos.
Mira Sorvino...Paul Walker...T-Pain...Fall 2010...HEADSTONE MAFIA, A LOVE STORY OF REVENGE. "5/5 stars!!!" - DRB User "Andy Hellicksonstine"
Ya 480 comments for a site
that doesn’t care for closers, means the people are hungry.
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by CubFanRaysaddict on Dec 10, 2009 1:47 PM EST up reply actions
Given the blood as lube talk and the blog wars talk, I think this series has said all that needs to be said.
by R.J. Anderson on Dec 10, 2009 1:48 PM EST up reply actions
Broken Promises Sutty.
Sign lady must die.
by EminenceFront on Dec 10, 2009 1:48 PM EST up reply actions
I don't care for your cute little make-over.
Can’t it be like the old days? Huh? Remember how we used to dance and sing?
Sign lady must die.
by EminenceFront on Dec 10, 2009 1:52 PM EST up reply actions
YOU WANTED MORE, OK? I JUST COULDN'T COMMIT, NOT WITH BARNEBY JONES IN THE HOSPITAL.
by Samwise Sutty on Dec 10, 2009 1:52 PM EST up reply actions
You son of a bitch.
You just couldn’t let that go.
Sign lady must die.
by EminenceFront on Dec 10, 2009 1:53 PM EST up reply actions
I just.. I'm just not a good graphic designer! And you kept pushing, you fucking whore.
“THIS ISN’T PROPERLY SHADED, SUTTREE!” WELL, I SEE THE TRUE SHADES OF YOU NOW.
by Samwise Sutty on Dec 10, 2009 1:54 PM EST up reply actions
I'm weeping inside. I can't live like this any longer.
I’m gonna jump! Will that make you happy? Will that quench your thirst for inadequacy?
Sign lady must die.
by EminenceFront on Dec 10, 2009 1:56 PM EST up reply actions
All right, this got gay fast.
But, props.
by Samwise Sutty on Dec 10, 2009 1:56 PM EST up reply actions
Aaaand scene.
Time to flame P Brady..
Sign lady must die.
by EminenceFront on Dec 10, 2009 1:57 PM EST up reply actions
Rash Jyner Anderson
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Win Curve
Is what I call my DICK.
Mira Sorvino...Paul Walker...T-Pain...Fall 2010...HEADSTONE MAFIA, A LOVE STORY OF REVENGE. "5/5 stars!!!" - DRB User "Andy Hellicksonstine"
Mine's more of a linear win pattern, especially right now
I'm a writer.
by Andy Hellicksonstine on Dec 10, 2009 1:48 PM EST up reply actions
I bring the ladies some sweet asymptotic pleasure.
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12th grade giggle at asymptote
I'm a writer.
by Andy Hellicksonstine on Dec 10, 2009 1:52 PM EST up reply actions
what the CDC calls a felony if not under wraps
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by CubFanRaysaddict on Dec 10, 2009 1:48 PM EST up reply actions
sounds good
Pizza!
Fire and Ice: Rafael Soriano and J.P Howell.......with their side kick Grant the aussie Balfour!
I want a nap.
Mira Sorvino...Paul Walker...T-Pain...Fall 2010...HEADSTONE MAFIA, A LOVE STORY OF REVENGE. "5/5 stars!!!" - DRB User "Andy Hellicksonstine"
A fantasy story written in the style of Orson Scott Card about Sir Dioner of Naviton being banished from the Castle Trop GOGOGO
Orson Scott Card hates gay people.
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"...you're just too cute to deny."
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Well be glad it was my post that got the big "0" and not your's.
Also, mine took 20 seconds, so I’m sure you put something together that was better.
I have us 2 wins lower and I just reviewed my other one.
That’s basically it.
by R.J. Anderson on Dec 10, 2009 2:07 PM EST up reply actions
si
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Gay.
Do you usually tailgate or some shit, or do you and your butt buddies just head straight into the game?
by Samwise Sutty on Dec 10, 2009 2:03 PM EST up reply actions
I go with my fams. And yes, we tailgate. I don't pay for the ticket, so I don't make the rulz.
Is tailgating so not indie anymore?
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Only if you guys talk about how Conor from Bright Eyez is a genius while adjusting your turtle necks and PBR hats.
by Samwise Sutty on Dec 10, 2009 2:04 PM EST up reply actions
Jameson hats*
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As if any of them could actually handle Jameson.
by Samwise Sutty on Dec 10, 2009 2:07 PM EST up reply actions
Blind Melon hats*?
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I drink that stuff like it's syrup
I'm a writer.
by Andy Hellicksonstine on Dec 10, 2009 2:08 PM EST up reply actions
God you're a jackass.
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The Jersey shore punch?
Old Sandrew here doesn’t take kindly to women yelling at him.
by Samwise Sutty on Dec 10, 2009 2:10 PM EST up reply actions
Some people have taste, and then there's you.
I'm a writer.
by Andy Hellicksonstine on Dec 10, 2009 2:10 PM EST up reply actions
TASTEMAKER.COM/PLAYONWORDS
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I'm not going to that, but I wonder if anyone accepted the invitation to my lemon party way up the thread
I'm a writer.
by Andy Hellicksonstine on Dec 10, 2009 2:14 PM EST up reply actions
lemon party gags will never stop being funny.
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Let's all meet in secret behind the pirate ship!
I’ll text Mark Sanchez, I don’t think he’ll be busy.
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Remember the guy from Urban Flats you thought was 14?
He’s coming and he’s an obnoxious little Jew Jet fan.
by Samwise Sutty on Dec 10, 2009 2:05 PM EST up reply actions
Chris?
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No, Brandon. He barely talked to us.
Chris was the one that rubbed your shoulders.
by Samwise Sutty on Dec 10, 2009 2:10 PM EST up reply actions
I'm going to let this statement stand on its own and allow the Drays Bay crowd to judge it on its own merits.
by Samwise Sutty on Dec 10, 2009 2:10 PM EST up reply actions
Frankly I'm not surprised
I'm a writer.
by Andy Hellicksonstine on Dec 10, 2009 2:11 PM EST up reply actions
I'm asking if he's coming.
I need him to repeat that epic burn on you because I forgot it and its killing me inside.
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Killing you softly?
Sign lady must die.
by EminenceFront on Dec 10, 2009 2:11 PM EST up reply actions
No, he doesn't get back till Monday and I doubt BJtB would invite him to a Bucs game anyway, on account that he wasn't a sports fan until he went to UF.
by Samwise Sutty on Dec 10, 2009 2:11 PM EST up reply actions
There are a lot of AZNs who go through that same process.
Sign lady must die.
by EminenceFront on Dec 10, 2009 2:13 PM EST up reply actions
Please refer to him (BJtB) by the given name.
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Yes Mets making offer to Bay
hopefully equals no first round comp for the Sux
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by CubFanRaysaddict on Dec 10, 2009 2:02 PM EST reply actions
great move by Friedman!
Calero and Bradley plz
Vikings 4 the superbowl
Ya
wrong thread
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by CubFanRaysaddict on Dec 10, 2009 2:04 PM EST up reply actions
Jewfro's, Rays Index, College FB and BB, and insults only please
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by CubFanRaysaddict on Dec 10, 2009 2:05 PM EST up reply actions
Succa...oh screw it.
Sign lady must die.
by EminenceFront on Dec 10, 2009 2:15 PM EST up reply actions
Bye,Bye CC
So does this spell the end of the CC era?? I hope not, but I cant see them being able to afford everyone they have on the roster. we will see

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