Ripple effect?
I have a question about the possible ripple effect of the signing of Soriano based on a number of assumptions I am making.
1. My recollection is that Sternberg and the Rays do not intentionally lie or mislead the press or public about their intentions. They may be mute, or circumstances may force them to alter their initial policy, but I cannot recall an instance when they said one thing and did exactly the opposite. Yet Sternberg said the Rays were not adding any $7 million closer, and apparently they have done exactly that. Is that simply that the opportunity was too good to pass up (but they had to know that a talent such as Soriano was always available when he made the statement), or does it mean there will be some other moves that make the cost of Soriano much less in context?
2. I don't think the Rays have changed their fundamental view that it is foolish to pay big bucks to relievers no matter how good they are. Obviously paying Soriano, albeit for just one year, flies in the face of that view, and even if the difference is made up elsewhere he will receive, by Rays' standards, a disproportionate amount of the total payroll. Still, in a year when they are going all out, it might not be entirely a change of mind if they can save elsewhere and not hurt their chances.
3. Since trading for Soriano means the Rays are after the prize in 2010, it makes no sense to speculate that they are going to save money by trading any core members of the team before the season starts. So the two most expensive players, Crawford and Pena, are staying unless the return is an upgrade for 2010, most unlikely to be that and also less expensive.
4. If the trade of Burrell for Bradley happens, it has no effect on the payroll of 2010 as both are getting the same money this year. I doubt the Cubs will pay all of Bradley's 2011 salary, although perhaps they might split the payment so that some came this year and some next. I do not know if that is possible or if it is the sort of thing the Rays would consider beneficial.
5. So who does that leave, and how much can the Rays expect to save? Aybar is due $1.35 million, so the most to be saved there is under $1 million. Balfour got $1.4 million in 2009 and probably gets a raise, but is he likely to be dealt? Bartlett made almost $2 million in 2009 and is due for more. So I suppose by using Brignac the Rays could save near $2 million there. Navarro made $2.1 million so if he goes, the saving is something over $1.5 million if the replacement is minimum salary. But the big number among the small numbers is Wheeler's $3.5 million due in 2010. Wouldn't he be the most easily replaced with a cheap alternative and the biggest saving?
6. So here is the question. Does the Soriano contract mean that some combination of the above players are replaced by minimum salaried ones to total at least $4 million of Soriano's contract in savings, or do we think the Rays, when you add guaranteed increases to other players we know will be on the roster, will enter the 2010 season with a payroll approaching or even exceeding $70 million?
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I have a hard time believing any one will have serious interest in Wheeler @ 3.5
4.5 FIP relievers aren’t that hard to find, are they?
I say this mostly because (IIRC) we couldn't get anyone to bite for Chadford last year @ 4
and the difference between Wheeler and Chadford doesn’t seem substantial to me.
a lot of ways Rays can save
Rays will have $35 mil coming off books from this season’s salaries. Of course they have plenty of questions at that point. Will Rays buy out Barty’s arb years? Is he the starting SS in 2011? This year will tell a lot about his future with the club.
Unless Pena forces Boras’ hand, Rays won’t be able to afford him. That leaves a need at 1B.
CC is an interesting question…especially when minor league OF depth is aided by Joyce and Jennings. Joyce most likely begins in RF this season. Jennings can replace either CC or Upton, who is not cemented in this team’s long-term plans by any stretch. So LF and CF remain 2011 questions.
Rafael Soriano can leave after this year. Balfour will be a free agent unless he signs a multi-year deal. Wheeler has a 4 mil 2011 team option with 1 mil buyout. Many bullpen questions.
Shoppach has a “prove it” season with the Rays this season. His season this year will indicate whether he remains a Ray beyond a one-and-done. Burrell ends his two-year stint (so soon?!?!) after this year and will move on to different pastures.
So let’s recap:
catching, first base, shortstop, left field, centerfield, DH, ‘closer’ and ‘set-up’ are 2011 question marks.
Garza (arb 2) Howell (arb 2) Zobrist (arb 1) Barty (arb 2) Upton (arb 2) are the major arb cases.
Many questions…and I’m sure that played into Friedman’s appearing to let’s stretch this year’s payroll to go for it by adding one more major piece move. It’ll be very interesting to see how this team looks 12 months from now.
by raysfaninminnesota on Dec 10, 2009 6:25 PM EST reply actions
I was only considering 2010. It may be that Friedman is taking a longer view.
But I think I wrote too fast without thinking it out. I was talking it over with someone who pointed out that at the time of Sternberg’s statement the assumption was that all the elite closer types-or those with a reputation-were assumed to be looking for multi-year deals. Had Soriano refused arbitration he would have been among them. Once the surprise happened, and Soriano (who might very well be the best of the lot) became available via trade, Sternberg’s statement was no longer relevant as he was referring to long term commitments. So it is entirely possible that there is no urgency to clear space for Soriano’s contract.
What likely happened is that Friedman told Sternberg that the best reliever was available on a one year deal and without sacrificing any key prospect talent. Would he open the purse strings since Soriano could be a key piece to put the Rays over the top in the pennant race. Once the answer was yes, the trade was discussed and consummated.
That makes sense to me. I really think the Rays have one of the best management teams in the majors, and that they are committed to contending even if it means stretching their payroll beyond their intentions. Two years ago they entered the off-season determined to improve their run prevention and did it brilliantly. Last year, their goal was to improve their hitting against lefties, and they made exactly the right moves to do that, at a good price. Unfortunately, it did not work out as hoped, but the decisions were exactly right-not just on Burrell, but also on Kapler who did work out. This year the object was to improve the catching and bullpen, and again they have succeeded in making intelligent choices. We don’t know whether they will pan out, but right now I cannot imagine them having done better, and there is still time to do more.
It really is fun being a Rays’ fan!
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The one year commitment, not having to lose any real chip, and the potential for the 1st rder make it quite palatable. Had he declined arb and we signed him to a 1 yr deal while forfeiting a #1, I would feel quite differently.
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couldn't agree more
Once this FO identifies a need, they always find a way to fill it. And what makes this FO stand apart is they are just as apt on the smaller deals as they are with the bigger ones. For every Delmon Young trade or big bat signing (if Burrell had lived up to his career avg last year) there was a Gathright-for-Howell trade or Pena signing.
There is nothing more the media or fans can criticize. This team has done everything it can and then some to put this team in position to contend. It’s time for fans to respond and put butts in the seats. Everyone whined about not having a closer. Now we have one. It’s about time this area gave the team the support it needs and deserves.
One part that gets overlooked is the Rays in the last two years took on another team’s “salary dump” in paying for a reliever (08: Chad Bradford, 09: Russ Springer)…my best guess is the Rays do not do that this year, and that’s where part of this ‘additional funds’ might come from.
Of course, as this team has shown, who knows what will happen if another ‘right deal’ should happen to come along.
by raysfaninminnesota on Dec 10, 2009 9:52 PM EST reply actions
Yes, yes and yes!!
“And what makes this FO stand apart is they are just as apt on the smaller deals as they are with the bigger ones.”
This is one of the traits I find particularly engaging about the FO. You can add the Aybar deal, the Gross deal and others as well. Not all will work out, but they all make sense. And they demonstrate an eye for detail that sometimes separates the good from the excellent. (I think Maddon shares this quality with the front office by the way, as he does many qualities that make the whole organization mesh so well.)
And to me the Bradford acquisition was another sign that winning came first here. He was more expensive (and for 2 years) than many thought the Rays would accept, but with the team fighting off Boston for the division, the Rays grabbed him anyway to ensure their standing.

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