Report: Rays Scout Kelvim Escobar In Venezuela
by Tommy Rancel on Dec 16, 2009 3:37 PM EST
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PrintWhile the Milton Bradley rumor game (pun non intended) continues to produce little or no new news, Kelvim Escobar's game is just starting...literally. What we know so far is the Rays like Escobar. In return, Escobar likes the Rays too, but there are other teams involved; according to reports out of Venezuela it could be eight or nine teams. We also know that the Rays were one of eight teams to watch Escobar in a simulated game today. The Mets, who are rumored to be among the more aggressive suitors, were not one of the eight teams listed by Efrain Zavarce.
It's a simulated game so results are of no consequence. If I'm translating Zavarce's tweet right, in the first inning of the simulated game, Escobar threw his slider, change up and fastball with the fastball being consistently between 92 and 94 mph. If that report is accurate then Escobar's velocity is exactly where it should be; his average fastball is 93.4 career. He is scheduled to pitch in a live game this weekend in which the Rays will also attend. What happens after that is anyone's guess.
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Get R' Done
…. I can’t believe I’ve done this.
by Doug09 on Dec 16, 2009 3:52 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
i want to see him wear his googles in the trop
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eh screw watching him again
scoop him up now
trade for Bradley and 2010 is set
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I want this to happen more than the Bradley trade.
Mostly because I don’t think there’s a chance that Burrell sucks this hard next year.
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by PlayOnWords on Dec 16, 2009 4:31 PM EST via mobile reply actions
i mostly want Burrell traded because of the salary relief that if would give the Rays
Vikings 4 the superbowl
A free or cheap Bradley for 2011 is a huge bonus
Burrell is gone after this year.
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absolutely which is why i want this to get done and over with
it is going to happen but, when is the question
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OT:LOL
Many of you saw this yesterday, I’m sure. Just curious — is there a compelling case to be made for Talbot over Cruz? I think Talbot’s an intriguing talent, but don’t we already have Pino and some other guys as upper-level depth starters? I don’t see any reason not to try to max out our upside here.
The DRaysBay crew has wanted it to be Talbot all along, which — whatever they may say about wanting him to have his opportunity — makes me suspicious.
by fleerdon on Dec 15, 2009 8:14 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
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It’s not the Indians’ job to provide Talbot with an opportunity so that his seven fans in the greater Tampa area can feel good about it. Anyone who thinks the Indians would ever give a rat’s ass about something like that should give Jordan Brown a call.
by Jay on Dec 15, 2009 11:45 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
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I know he's not talking about my comment, which was:
At least Talbot would get his shot.
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by R.J. Anderson on Dec 16, 2009 4:51 PM EST up reply actions
For a fan base that gets pelted with Major League jokes, you would think they could be a bit more creative.
by R.J. Anderson on Dec 16, 2009 5:00 PM EST up reply actions
I suggest the site change it's motto to :To Punish and Decieve.
In all honestly though, if he’s not a regular visitor, no reason to laugh at him for thinking that way. Just look at MLBTR, OH LET’S TRADE SOME SINGLE-A ASSWIPE FOR CC, THE RAYS WILL TAKE IT BECAUSE THEY HAVE TOO, AND THEY’LL LIKE IT.
I can't wait until we trade him for a reliever.
Any chance Talbot has to be waived and actually passs through to the minors?
I am thinking their is a chance because not many will want him on the 25 man
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well I think he will be a Indian anyway
but either way, no huge loss for us
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It's not ideal to give away talent.
Fortunately we got Shoppach in return and we have good pitching talent.
by R.J. Anderson on Dec 16, 2009 5:01 PM EST up reply actions
If it's Cruz, Shapiro threw us a curve by saying the PTBNL had a ghood chance to stick on the 25 man
Ha
50-something catcher splits, with defensive RAA, salaries, and even AAA splits to complement this AM’s attendance piece. Dry, beater of dead horses, old, lots of things you could call me, I’m not sure lazy fits the bill.
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by Andy Hellicksonstine on Dec 16, 2009 5:52 PM EST up reply actions
Thats easy
Hendry is still hoping for a kinght in shining armor that does not exist. Friedman has made his offer and is waiting patiently. I don’t think there is any negotiations, and thats why we kept seeing Hendry try to bluff through the press.
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I still don't know what the Cubs will do with Burrell
They already have a guy in LF who can’t field.
They're not keeping him either. The whole point is salary relief.
But they can’t get it with Milton because no one wants him. Burrell isn’t bringing back talent, but they can probably find someone to take his contract. We don’t need salary relief, we need a DH and it’s either going to be Milton or Burrell.
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Burrell can always come back next year, Bradley can't.
Unless Boston gets antsy, there’s seriously no other options. Seattle doesn’t want Milton, San Diego, Texas, etc. have no room for him.
by R.J. Anderson on Dec 16, 2009 6:10 PM EST up reply actions
Zavarce says Esco threw about 30 pitches in two innings of work. 92-94 on fastball
Also drops this note:
Emilio Carrasquel, Mariners scout: "I think he (K. Escobar) is ready to throw for any big league team. He showed good location and speed".
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come on M's, you already made your team awesome
let us have this one
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Let's see how he does against live hitting Friday
Sounds like a bidding war might happen and the Rays will probably lose out. Man has to earn a living and ST invites won’t cut it. Mariners have more cash to blow than the Rays.
Maddon being friends with Esco might get us a slight discount.
I see that amounting to 20 dollars or so.
he wont be guaranteed much
some team will give him a incentive laden deal.
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I have a feeling Red Soc are going to acquire A-Gonzalez
Former Sox employee runnin the show there and the Red Sox will probably offer a pretty good package of Clay Buttholz, Ellsbury and more.
so 2 problems then?
if they get Adrian Gonzalez, they have him and Holliday/Bay to replace Ellsbury
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I like it for the Pads
Buchholz is pretty good and young and Ellsbury is kind of a pest. Not sure it’s going to help the Red Sox that much.
Well
A. Gonz- 4.26 WPA
Holliday/Bay- 3.67 (Somewhat deflated last year for Holliday), Bay (4.29)
Ellsbury- (-.63 WPA)
Buchholz- (.83 WPA)
+prospects- Whatever they are
Still think the sox win.
Why do you kill threads????
I don't think they will get Holliday or Bay if they get A-Gonz
Something tells me they will go for AG if they can’t get either of the others. It is the Red Sox though, so they will probably just get all 3.
They do have a budget
Bay and Holliday are probably out of the question now.
So what if Rays don't sign Escobar
Dan our man is still here. What’s the big deal about letting up a little old HR every five innings.
If they're solo shots with 4 run lead, then nothing.
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by Tommy Rancel on Dec 16, 2009 8:20 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Ghost of Juan Guzman Past
Angel`s paid $10,000,000 for 5.0 IP for Escobar. Hell, Chadford was a bargain.
How can you have any pudding if you havn`t eaten your meat? I`m still waiting...
by Barnese and Bailey Circus on Dec 16, 2009 10:07 PM EST reply actions
the Braves Type A closers have taken over the AL East
2 years/12 mil for Mike Gonzalez with the Orioles
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because Baltimore has a top 15 pick...
Braves lose 2 type A closers and get 0 1st rounders
Fire and Ice: Rafael Soriano and J.P Howell.......with their side kick Grant the aussie Balfour!
damn, 4 mil in incentives also
could be 16 mil so hes making more than our resident Brave closer
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Millwood, Guthrie and ???
With a rotation like theirs, how many save opps. is Gonzalez going to get. Their lineup is shaping up nicely though.
How can you have any pudding if you havn`t eaten your meat? I`m still waiting...
by Barnese and Bailey Circus on Dec 16, 2009 10:56 PM EST up reply actions
*get ?
How can you have any pudding if you havn`t eaten your meat? I`m still waiting...
by Barnese and Bailey Circus on Dec 16, 2009 10:57 PM EST up reply actions
Yep they are paying a shitlload for a closer for a very likely 4th place finish.
I hope they wanted Escobar and now wont go after him.
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but they also have Tillman and Matsuz who should be better this season
They still have a very young and unproven rotation(Tillman, Matsuz, Hernendez) a question mark(Guthrie) so they have Millwood, potential and a closer
but their OF is awesome!
Fire and Ice: Rafael Soriano and J.P Howell.......with their side kick Grant the aussie Balfour!
Outfield ,catcher 2nd base too.
lineup is close, staff not so much imho.
How can you have any pudding if you havn`t eaten your meat? I`m still waiting...
by Barnese and Bailey Circus on Dec 16, 2009 11:12 PM EST up reply actions
Matusz did a good job of making us look like a bunch of amateurs last year
He’s good, and so is Tillman.
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by Andy Hellicksonstine on Dec 17, 2009 9:47 AM EST up reply actions
And they lose one for Wagner
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by FreeZorilla on Dec 16, 2009 10:53 PM EST up reply actions
Talk about mother of all backfires
Wren must be having a shitfit.
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by Andy Hellicksonstine on Dec 17, 2009 9:47 AM EST up reply actions
Now the O's signed Atkins
I guess they were feeling bored tonight and wanted to do some things. Atkins, however, couldnt even hit in Coors anymore.
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1B or 3B for Atkins?
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by Barnese and Bailey Circus on Dec 16, 2009 11:13 PM EST up reply actions
signed for 3B
so bad offense AND bad defense, not a great signing
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Wiggy would have been better option to bring back.
At least he could play multiple positions albeit badly.
How can you have any pudding if you havn`t eaten your meat? I`m still waiting...
by Barnese and Bailey Circus on Dec 16, 2009 11:26 PM EST up reply actions
hes gonna be at 1B
They should go with one of Aubrey, Hughes or Snyder
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Aubrey looked decent at season`s end.
I went to late season series against O`s and came away impressed with him and Riemold too.
How can you have any pudding if you havn`t eaten your meat? I`m still waiting...
by Barnese and Bailey Circus on Dec 16, 2009 11:37 PM EST up reply actions
I am guessing by 2011 (prob mid 2010)
their corners will be Snyder 1B and Bell 3B which is most likely their future
C Weiters
1B Snyder
2B Roberts
SS Givens
3B Bell
LF Avery
CF Jones
RF Markakis
DH Reilmond
They, like everyone in the AL East, has a bright future
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Toronto's future is kinda sucky
At least until 2011-2012
PIZZA?!?
by Transplanted on Dec 17, 2009 2:10 AM EST up reply actions
Yankees ugh
WEDNESDAY, 10:52pm: Peter Greenberg, Escobar’s agent, informed FOX Sports’ Jon Paul Morosi that representatives from the Yankees and Twins were also at the throwing session (via Twitter).
It was a nice idea while it lasted.
Too many clubs invloved now.
Agreed
Someone is definitely going to overpay.
Which teams see him as a starter?
That is where he has had the most success.
How can you have any pudding if you havn`t eaten your meat? I`m still waiting...
by Barnese and Bailey Circus on Dec 17, 2009 7:34 AM EST reply actions
If they do, he should eliminate them
the bullpen is his key to staying healthy and playing regularly
Thinking somebody will give him more...
to be a starter than Ray`s will to come out of the pen.
How can you have any pudding if you havn`t eaten your meat? I`m still waiting...
by Barnese and Bailey Circus on Dec 17, 2009 8:24 AM EST up reply actions
That's probably true
but he has said recently he wants to focus on RP duties for his health, but if someone is offering him twice what he is asking to pitch in the bullpen to start I can’t imagine he would turn that down.
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by CubFanRaysaddict on Dec 17, 2009 8:47 AM EST up reply actions
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