For Kelly Shoppach's Bat Fastball:Good::Breaking Balls:Bad
Kelly Shoppach's swing and miss issues are nothing new. The overall contact issues have been illustrated here, and also by RZ (formally of Rays Party) here. Specifically, I want to see is what pitches does he tend struggle with? With a K-rate of over 35% the answer, not surprisingly, is most of them.
Kelly Shoppach is a fastball hitter. There's no two ways about it. In 2009, he whiffed on around 10% of all fastballs thrown. This is by far the lowest of any pitch in which he received a fair amount of sample size. Career wise, his higest pitch value is far and away on the heater. With his power, any fastball over the plate and slightly elevated is likely to end up somewhere near the left field party deck.
Breaking balls? That's a different story.
Like many free-swinging, power hitters, Shoppach's kryptonite comes in the form of breaking balls. Sliders and Curveballs (especially low and away) give him fits. He made contact with air on 17.5% of curveballs in 2009, and came up empty on nearly a quarter (24.3%) of the sliders thrown in his general area. It's not surprising his lowest pitch values are also associated with these bendy pitches.
Nonetheless, breaking balls aren't the pitch missed most by Shoppach's bat. While seeing the pitch only 7.3% of the time in 2009, he missed the change-up over 31% of the time (28 of 90). The strange part is his wCH is his second highest pitch value, trailing the fastball. I'm assuming that while he is easily fooled by change-ups, if he guesses correctly, he's likely to hit it hard.
Despite the splits showing Shoppach's affinity for left-handed pitching, He is an equal opportunity hacker. He misses on slightly less fast balls and change ups against righties, but whiffs on more sliders and curves against lefties.
Nothing ground-breaking, but prepared for heavy doses of breaking pitches (again, mostly low and away) against Shoppach follwed by a bunch of empty offerings. However, if a pitcher leaves a fastball over the dish, or if a "get me over" change-up doesn't quite get over, it's likely to put Shoppach on-base or runs on the board.
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how is he as far as defense....
Will we be calling him the Shop-Vac?
I thought Shpppach was better at blocking balls than Navarro?
Navi not so good at blocking balls so the point is mute. I see this competition as whoever sucks less gets the most starts.
Pretty much--Shoppach actually misses balls out of the zone
Like he gets crosssed up and can’t react
And the beat goes on....
The Tampa Bay Rays, Texas Rangers, and Seattle Mariners all wouldn’t mind having Bradley but every situation seems to have reached its tipping point. The Cubs and Rays have supposedly discussed numerous times a swap of Bradley and Pat Burrell(notes). Meanwhile, the Mariners are having a feel-good off-season that likely has its fans singing in the rain after signing Chone Figgins(notes) and trading for the team’s second ace, Cliff Lee(notes). There’s some speculation that the M’s don’t want to confuse things (and potentially upset some fans) by bringing in the controversial Bradley at this point.
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by PlayOnWords on Dec 18, 2009 10:00 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
The same site is saying that the Cubs will include money in a deal..
How much are we expecting them to pay for the 2nd year?
They're saying 6, we want more.
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by Andy Hellicksonstine on Dec 18, 2009 10:16 AM EST up reply actions
So they are willing to pay half..
What do you think we would agree to pay? 4 million of it?
I'm in the camp that we get MB for free in 2011 or we stick with Pat for one year.
No way in hell does he have that bad of a year again.
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by PriceMultiCyYoungs on Dec 18, 2009 10:36 AM EST up reply actions
I would play hardball unless there is a real threat
MB for 4-5 million in 2011 is a nice deal
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by FreeZorilla on Dec 18, 2009 10:42 AM EST up reply actions
Does this player interest anyone?
Smoltz’s agent, Keith Grunewald says the Cardinals are interested, but Smoltz is still in contact with other teams.
Pen, sure
Rotation then no.
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by PriceMultiCyYoungs on Dec 18, 2009 10:59 AM EST up reply actions
You got it right about Shoppach killing the changeup TR.
His SLGCON on the changeup was .667 and .643 on the fastball. The league averages were .557 and .585 respectively. His breaking ball power is terrible with a .200 SLGCON on the curve compared to a .521 league average.
Bay
SLGCON
CH- .531
CU- .577
FF- .742
My numbers before were incorrect for league average:
CH- .483
CU- .443
FF- .507
Bay wasn’t as bad as the league average, but he is defnitely a fastball hacker.
Suprised to see he's above LA against CUs.
I mean he’s a great slugger, but he looks lost against breaking balls. I guess this doesn’t factor in swings and misses since it’s based on contact though. That makes more sense.
He doesn't whiff that much.
Type…..Count…..Whiff
FF …..1201…..8.20%
SL …..504…..12.70%
CH …..254…..20.10%
CU …..253…..11.50%
FT …..102…..14.70%
by R.J. Anderson on Dec 18, 2009 11:25 AM EST up reply actions
Those lower lg avgs make Shoppach look even better
He should just take BP against Garza until he learns how to handle the slider.
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by Tommy Rancel on Dec 18, 2009 11:26 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
Tis is so funny
I would like to comment on this Catcher the RAYS signed (arbitrated). I’ve been following him for what now is the 3rd season. This catcher is by far the best prospect and has proven to have a gun for throwing out runners at second base, Ive never in my entire life seen such accuracy. Navarro will go down in a legacy of the greatest catchers to ever play the game. He needs to work a little on the pitch counts recieved and not dig a hole for himself. If I were Joe Madden I would hire a Tudor for him. Maybe Johnny Bench, because this guy has a cannon for throwing out Stealing Base-Runners.
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by Some other guy who does not care on Dec 18, 2009 11:45 AM EST reply actions
Dear R.J,
NAVARRO IS THE GREATEST CATCHER EVA.
Signed-
Mrs. Navarro
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by Some other guy who does not care on Dec 18, 2009 11:50 AM EST up reply actions
Oh there's more
BTW, But i wont post it
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by Some other guy who does not care on Dec 18, 2009 11:54 AM EST up reply actions
Was this his agent again?
I’m still having nightmares from those other quotes.
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Which Tudor would you hire?
John? Henry VIII?
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by FreeZorilla on Dec 18, 2009 12:00 PM EST up reply actions
zing.
I’m slapping my knee while I type.
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by Andy Hellicksonstine on Dec 18, 2009 12:04 PM EST up reply actions
Not only misspelled, but capitalized!
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by FreeZorilla on Dec 18, 2009 12:07 PM EST up reply actions
I don't think Navarro is going to be here that long.
by R.J. Anderson on Dec 18, 2009 12:04 PM EST up reply actions
Validation on my thought process
I had been feeling so isolated from the commenting body. My dead horse argument of the month.
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by FreeZorilla on Dec 18, 2009 12:08 PM EST up reply actions
The process behind it makes sense, I just think there is only like a 40% chance of him being traded
It makes sense, but I’ll believe it when I see it.
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by Andy Hellicksonstine on Dec 18, 2009 12:09 PM EST up reply actions
Why 40%? B/c the Rays like him, or dry marketplace?
Maybe a 3 way to get Jesse Chavez back?
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by FreeZorilla on Dec 18, 2009 12:11 PM EST up reply actions
Either will Burrell and he's still been on the block since October.
I think it’s going to be hard to get 2.1M of value from another team and not sure we trust Lobaton to be the backup.
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by Andy Hellicksonstine on Dec 18, 2009 12:20 PM EST up reply actions
I would not be concerned about equal value
The choices were non-tender, sign, or sign and trade to get something back as opposed to nothing. C seems to make the most sense. Similar to Aki’s option.
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by FreeZorilla on Dec 18, 2009 12:41 PM EST up reply actions
He only really costs 1.6ish over a replacement player, this isn't exactly an albatross with no clear replacement.
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by Andy Hellicksonstine on Dec 18, 2009 1:05 PM EST up reply actions
He's not an albatross
1.6mill in savings goes somewhere better though. And we can fill the spot with someone who either hits RHP or is a weak hitting excellent defensive catcher. In the meantime whatever we get back, is better than nothing.
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I hope Navi puts up a BAbip inflated .350ish wOBA this year, people will go CRAZY
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by Andy Hellicksonstine on Dec 18, 2009 1:17 PM EST up reply actions
I would be fine if not playing everyday allows him to be a better defensive catcher
BAbip bounceback, even facing righties, will help him as well. We don’t need an All-Star, just a competent player.
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by Andy Hellicksonstine on Dec 18, 2009 3:39 PM EST up reply actions
It all depends how he would be used
Odds are not in his favor if he plays almost exclusively against tough RHP
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by FreeZorilla on Dec 18, 2009 12:39 PM EST up reply actions
Well RJ--at least he's still in the AL
The Mariners signed Ryan Langerhans to a one-year major league contract, according to a team press release. They had non-tendered him earlier in the month, but had expressed interest in retaining him.
The 29-year-old hit .218/.311/.386 in 122 plate appearances for the Mariners last year. UZR/150 ranks him as quite a good defensive outfielder over the course of his career.
I'm kind of surprised by the lack of Gabe Gross action
Maybe we can get him back as an NRI.
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by Andy Hellicksonstine on Dec 18, 2009 12:20 PM EST up reply actions
Minor League Signing Right-Handed 1B
@BaseballGuys Ryan Shealy signs minor league deal with Rays. The guy can hit, prob. 275-20 if given a chance – he just hasn’t gotten a look in bigs. #rays
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