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Report: Milton Bradley to be Traded to Seattle

StoneLarry: Source: Mariners will trade Carlos Silva to Cubs for Milton Bradley, may be announced later today

This makes no sense for the Cubs whatsoever, yet their fan base will be happy to have dealt the better player for someone who "isn't a cancer". Of course, that's selective memory because SIlva was quoted as wanting to choke a teammate -- presumably Ichiro of all people --  in 2008.

The Rays options from here are pretty simple. Either keep Burrell and allow him to bounce back, or trade him for salary relief and pursue another free agent DH.

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LOL at Hendry

The idea was to dump Milton and clear out salary. Now they add a terrible starter and end up paying even more.

I’ve said all along adding Milton would be a luxury not a necessity. Looked a Burrell’s numbers, and while scary, he’s been down before and rebounded. Plus it’s just one year.

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by Tommy Rancel on Dec 18, 2009 12:41 PM EST via mobile reply actions  

Me too :(

Really liked the idea of an inexpensive 2011

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by FreeZorilla on Dec 18, 2009 12:44 PM EST up reply actions  

Oh definitely. Still want him, but it wasn't a must.

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by Tommy Rancel on Dec 18, 2009 12:45 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

But if the Cubs were to pick up

more than 1/2 of MB’s ’11 salary, how much were they really clearing/

by sternfan1 on Dec 18, 2009 12:43 PM EST up reply actions  

Right

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by FreeZorilla on Dec 18, 2009 12:44 PM EST up reply actions  

$26M due to Silva

Bradley costs $9M this year (as does Burrell) and then $12M the next year. So $27M v. $26M if they paid half of 2011 and all of 2010.

by R.J. Anderson on Dec 18, 2009 12:45 PM EST up reply actions  

This isn't right either actually

18 + 6 = 24M. So yeah, they could’ve paid 8M of his 2011 salary and broke even.

by R.J. Anderson on Dec 18, 2009 12:50 PM EST up reply actions  

I don't think so.

Burrell would have been 9 mill, and Silva is $25 mill. So that’s $16 mill difference. Couldn’t they have essentially paid up to $16 and come out ahead? Unless they value Silva the player more than Burrell.

by rglass44 on Dec 18, 2009 12:55 PM EST up reply actions  

Yawn

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by PriceMultiCyYoungs on Dec 18, 2009 12:43 PM EST reply actions  

GMZ is good.

Maybe this will free them up to re-sign Beltre. Division would be under wraps if they did.

by rglass44 on Dec 18, 2009 12:48 PM EST reply actions  

What an incredible offseason for them

Its like Christmas in December

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by FreeZorilla on Dec 18, 2009 12:49 PM EST up reply actions  

Yup

Now I hope the Rangers flop.

The AL just keeps getting better.

by rglass44 on Dec 18, 2009 12:50 PM EST up reply actions  

As bad as Silva is, he's still more serviceable to the Cubs than Burrell

Where was Burrell going to play, and especially if they sign Byrd?

by sternfan1 on Dec 18, 2009 12:51 PM EST reply actions  

Where does Silva fit in?

Both are awful fits, with Burrell being the better baseball player. They could have traded for PtB, paid for most of Bradleys 2011, and done a salary dump trade of PtB and made out better from a cost standpoint.

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by FreeZorilla on Dec 18, 2009 12:55 PM EST up reply actions  

That is exactly right.

by Irish Yeti on Dec 18, 2009 12:57 PM EST up reply actions  

ehhhh

I don’t get it. The Rays and Cubs were talking a Burrell for Bradley swap with the Cubs picking up an unspecified amount of 2011 (because Burrell would be a FA after 2010). OK so the specifics of each players contracts follow:

Bradley- 2010 9 mill, 2011 $12 mill. That’s 21 mill total.
Silva- 2010 11.5 mill, 2011 11.5 mill, 2012 2 mill buyout. That’s 25 mill total.
Burrell- 2010 9 mill. That’s 9 mill total.

So the Cubs took on 4 more mill. to get a terrible, terrible player. They could have sent Bradley for Burrell and given the Rays up to 16 mill and it would have cost less for the Cubs. What am I missing?

by rglass44 on Dec 18, 2009 1:00 PM EST up reply actions  

Z-man to answer--i'm guessing it's less egg on Hendry's face when

he’s actually getting a player in return for ’11 MB

Not my idea, but just possibly his

by sternfan1 on Dec 18, 2009 12:59 PM EST up reply actions  

It wouldn't be as fun

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by FreeZorilla on Dec 18, 2009 1:07 PM EST up reply actions  

So true.

I don’t think its fun at all to be a Yankee fan.

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by PlayOnWords on Dec 18, 2009 1:09 PM EST up reply actions  

A "friend" of mine said this about the Yankees last year

“It was such a MAGICAL season, I never saw it coming”

by SRQman on Dec 18, 2009 1:10 PM EST up reply actions  

Well, 125M is much different than 200M.

I’d be happy if we could sit around 80M-90M every year.

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by PriceMultiCyYoungs on Dec 18, 2009 1:10 PM EST up reply actions  

Thats only 10m more than where we are.

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by PlayOnWords on Dec 18, 2009 1:11 PM EST up reply actions  

You guys got room for a Cub fan? After this trade, I might be done with my team, and I’m very impressed with what you guys have had going on.

by Irish Yeti on Dec 18, 2009 12:55 PM EST reply actions  

Feel free to join, I did when they sucked about 7 years ago

Back then it was better to watch a bad team lose unimportant games, than watch a good team lose important ones. Now it’s better to watch Andrew Friedman nickel and dime his team to contention, than to watch Hendry shoot himself in the foot every time he pulls the trigger on a deal/trade.

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by CubFanRaysaddict on Dec 18, 2009 1:05 PM EST up reply actions  

Quick question for you RJ
But hey, he’s not black, so it’s a-okay, right everybody?

How much hate email do you usually get when you drop something like this into one of your posts? If any.

Just curious.

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by PriceMultiCyYoungs on Dec 18, 2009 1:01 PM EST reply actions  

oh well

I wanted him and more so I wanted Pat gone.

Please sign Kelvim Escobar or Kiko, guys!

Ok M’s won this deal hands down but shouldnt they be going with LF Ichiro CF Guitterez RF Saunders DH Griffey?

they didnt sign Griffey to bench him so I guess Saunders is screwed

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by joeybw on Dec 18, 2009 1:03 PM EST reply actions  

oh god damnit

they wanna trade Morrow for a hitter, well they def wont take PTB now

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by joeybw on Dec 18, 2009 1:05 PM EST reply actions  

We're stuck with PtB now

but we can hope for a ~.350 wOBA, no way he is as bad as last year.

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by CubFanRaysaddict on Dec 18, 2009 1:07 PM EST reply actions  

This.

At least Riggans is gone.

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by PlayOnWords on Dec 18, 2009 1:08 PM EST up reply actions  

you hear what happened?

He tried to sign for 10 mil a year with the Royals but his wrist broke

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by joeybw on Dec 18, 2009 1:18 PM EST up reply actions  

I hope that whole fucking city burns to the ground (not Seattle, love that place).

FUCK YOU JIM HENDRY.

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by PlayOnWords on Dec 18, 2009 1:08 PM EST reply actions  

burns to the ground again*

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by PlayOnWords on Dec 18, 2009 1:08 PM EST up reply actions  

I know you're from there, but every time I've been to Chicago its been a miserable experience. The weather, the hobos, the awful traffic.

And Cubs fans always seem to be in a relentless contest of douchebag one-upmanship

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by PlayOnWords on Dec 18, 2009 1:10 PM EST up reply actions  

?

?

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by PlayOnWords on Dec 18, 2009 1:14 PM EST up reply actions  

SRQ= Chicago....

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by CubFanRaysaddict on Dec 18, 2009 1:15 PM EST up reply actions  

I was joking

w/ SRQ i’m from Sarasota

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by CubFanRaysaddict on Dec 18, 2009 1:16 PM EST up reply actions  

This.

I had another person think I was from St. Louis…

by SRQman on Dec 18, 2009 1:15 PM EST up reply actions  

Wait what? Don't you like the Bulls and talk about growing up in a Chicago neighborhood called SRQ or some crap?

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by PlayOnWords on Dec 18, 2009 1:16 PM EST up reply actions  

My dad is from Chicago.

But I am born and raised in Sarasota. How would I be able to go to all the Rays games at the Trop if I lived in Chicago?

by SRQman on Dec 18, 2009 1:18 PM EST up reply actions  

I know where you live, a-hole. But people do move.

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by PlayOnWords on Dec 18, 2009 1:18 PM EST up reply actions  

THE RIVALRY.

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by PlayOnWords on Dec 18, 2009 1:20 PM EST up reply actions  

Or had a life

job, g/f…

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by CubFanRaysaddict on Dec 18, 2009 1:19 PM EST up reply actions  

Cleveland sucks, I went their once

Nothing to do or eat, everything is a mess, Rays prob feel the same way and they lose

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by joeybw on Dec 18, 2009 1:12 PM EST up reply actions  

People hate on Cleveland too much.

It’s the same as every city. There are good places and bad places. But you can’t judge it in one trip.

Sign lady must die.

by EminenceFront on Dec 18, 2009 1:13 PM EST up reply actions  

Why are you ever in traffic?

Take a cab, the EL, bus, etc. I love the city in the summer.

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by PriceMultiCyYoungs on Dec 18, 2009 1:19 PM EST up reply actions  

I got Milwaukee in my heart, kid.

I can never tolerate Chicago.

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by PlayOnWords on Dec 18, 2009 1:21 PM EST up reply actions  

WATERS AVE BITCHES

SO MUCH BETTER THAN THE CHI!

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by PriceMultiCyYoungs on Dec 18, 2009 1:22 PM EST up reply actions  

Water Street, dude.

Waters Ave is in Tampa. And not really fun.

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by PlayOnWords on Dec 18, 2009 1:22 PM EST up reply actions  

I think Tampa's good.

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by PlayOnWords on Dec 18, 2009 1:24 PM EST up reply actions  

Never been. Far from where I live.

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by PlayOnWords on Dec 18, 2009 1:25 PM EST up reply actions  

Pretty rude to refer to your mom's vag that way.

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by PlayOnWords on Dec 18, 2009 1:28 PM EST up reply actions  

ONCE YOU'VE HAD SAMWISE "DON'T CALL ME CORNELIUS" SUTTY IN YOU, IN ANY WAY,

YOU…UH…GET RUINED.

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by PlayOnWords on Dec 18, 2009 1:31 PM EST up reply actions  

in der welt?

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by CubFanRaysaddict on Dec 18, 2009 1:25 PM EST up reply actions  

Meh

I prefer St. pete.

(Round 1… fight)

by rglass44 on Dec 18, 2009 1:24 PM EST up reply actions  

Says the guy who lives in up-state New York

which is pretty much like Syberia in the winter.

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by PriceMultiCyYoungs on Dec 18, 2009 1:30 PM EST up reply actions  

I shoveled my driveway yesterday

It’s not bad, good eats, good drinks, the girls get extra slutty in the winter when they hate sleeping alone.

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by Andy Hellicksonstine on Dec 18, 2009 1:31 PM EST up reply actions  

I'm maintaining pretty well since I don't go out much and

there’s stuff to do like shoveling, shivering, plus playing in the snow is pretty awesome. I’ve already scouted out two awesome sledding hills a quarter mile from my house.

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by Andy Hellicksonstine on Dec 18, 2009 1:33 PM EST up reply actions  

I love sledding.

Inner tubes on snow, wut wut.

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by PlayOnWords on Dec 18, 2009 1:34 PM EST up reply actions  

Damn, I'm going to try and convince my fiance's fam to go sledding tomorrow.

SHIIIT. Awesome idea, PoW.

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by PlayOnWords on Dec 18, 2009 1:35 PM EST up reply actions  

In college I would always take note of all the hot girls at the start of the year.

Then I’d spot them all come spring when they were 25 lbs heavier.

Weird how that works.

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by PriceMultiCyYoungs on Dec 18, 2009 1:34 PM EST up reply actions  

You'd never catch me there.

I wanna kill myself in DC. I couldn’t imagine upsate NY. Ugh.

by rglass44 on Dec 18, 2009 1:31 PM EST up reply actions  

Work.

And I’d like to move west before I move back.

I lived in Tampa/St. Pete for 22 years (except while I was in college), so I’d like to live elsewhere for a while.

by rglass44 on Dec 18, 2009 1:34 PM EST up reply actions  

Las Cruces, NM my good man

That is where I would move after spending a couple days there.

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by Andy Hellicksonstine on Dec 18, 2009 1:35 PM EST up reply actions  

Seattle for me.

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by PlayOnWords on Dec 18, 2009 1:35 PM EST up reply actions  

This.

I hate when people bitch about cost of living. You get what you pay for.

If you want a nice place for $350/month move to Bushnell.

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by PriceMultiCyYoungs on Dec 18, 2009 1:48 PM EST up reply actions  

yup

You know why those cities are more expensive? Because people can afford it. You make more generally too.

by rglass44 on Dec 18, 2009 1:55 PM EST up reply actions  

There, Portland, San Fran, anywhere else in North Cali.

Or san diego. My company’s got a big presence there. Used to be the HQ till they moved here this year. Next summer I’m going to start looking for positions out there.

by rglass44 on Dec 18, 2009 1:44 PM EST up reply actions  

It's not so bad, gotta get my snows put on in an hour

After that I’ll be fine, I’ve been kind of a puss driving around so far. Working from home makes it mad easy to live here

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by Andy Hellicksonstine on Dec 18, 2009 1:32 PM EST up reply actions  

I like Tampa a lot.

Coming from a big college town like Madison, WI. I much prefer Tampa at this age (29). There is much more to do here.

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by PriceMultiCyYoungs on Dec 18, 2009 1:25 PM EST up reply actions  

Tampa is underrated in that way.

You can do anything but snow ski within a 15 minute drive.

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by PlayOnWords on Dec 18, 2009 1:28 PM EST up reply actions  

True true

I just hate the traffic. I lived in N. Tampa too which probably hurts the appeal.

by rglass44 on Dec 18, 2009 1:29 PM EST up reply actions  

Traffic sucks, but the Vet has relieved that pretty well. I barely go on Dale Mabry anymore.

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by PlayOnWords on Dec 18, 2009 1:30 PM EST up reply actions  

This is why I like living in South Tampa

I go opposite traffic to and from work everyday.

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by PriceMultiCyYoungs on Dec 18, 2009 1:31 PM EST up reply actions  

A couple of guys in my office say the same.

But ST is pretty $$$. I’m a lowly worker man. I live in an abandoned moon bounce.

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by PlayOnWords on Dec 18, 2009 1:33 PM EST up reply actions  

Agree. I pay half my GF's mortgage on her condo.

She’s 100k underwater. Her dad and I are trying to get her to walk away from it.

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by PriceMultiCyYoungs on Dec 18, 2009 1:38 PM EST up reply actions  

Also

most people who go there would say their residents are about the nicest of any big cities, i’ve had nothing but great experiences (minus the Rays v. White Sox game last year)

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by CubFanRaysaddict on Dec 18, 2009 1:21 PM EST up reply actions  

"I love the city in the summer!"

FUCK YOU. You yuppie fuck.

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by PlayOnWords on Dec 18, 2009 1:20 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

So much hate for people that are different than you.

And I’m no yuppie, FWIW.

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by PriceMultiCyYoungs on Dec 18, 2009 1:21 PM EST up reply actions  

Interesting post on MLBtr

its a comment, but a intriguing and possible one

If its straight across, the M’s can release Bradley tomorrow…and STILL save millions of dollars over Silva. Not sure how that can be considered ‘bad’.

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by joeybw on Dec 18, 2009 1:09 PM EST reply actions  

Friedman made Hendry feel dumb

his answer? fuck you pal, i’ll take Silva!

Friedman just smiles and turns Ryan Shealy into Albert Pujols

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by joeybw on Dec 18, 2009 1:11 PM EST reply actions  

Good luck Watsumaku

Lee-MB—Ichiro

Should be a party

by sternfan1 on Dec 18, 2009 1:11 PM EST reply actions  

Wow. MLBN needs to put a camera on those three instead of some boring bullpen.

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by PlayOnWords on Dec 18, 2009 1:14 PM EST up reply actions  

so the deal sucks

I can’t be the only one who’s a little happy that the rumors are over, can I?

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by joeybw on Dec 18, 2009 1:14 PM EST reply actions  

You know how I feel about Burrell.

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by PlayOnWords on Dec 18, 2009 1:23 PM EST up reply actions  

That he is a douche?

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by PlayOnWords on Dec 18, 2009 1:24 PM EST up reply actions  

Excellent

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by FreeZorilla on Dec 18, 2009 1:24 PM EST up reply actions  

thank god

ok day is saved

Milton who?

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by joeybw on Dec 18, 2009 1:24 PM EST up reply actions  

I will never forget that home run against the Twins.

Just MAGICAL.

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by PlayOnWords on Dec 18, 2009 1:24 PM EST up reply actions  

Alright new target

we continue to ‘crap out millions’ and get Javier Vazquez

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by CubFanRaysaddict on Dec 18, 2009 1:26 PM EST reply actions  

fuck that

Matt Holliday!

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by joeybw on Dec 18, 2009 1:30 PM EST up reply actions  

get it done joey

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by CubFanRaysaddict on Dec 18, 2009 1:32 PM EST up reply actions  

ok but i am gonna pick up Escobar on the way home

anyone else want someone? No kidnapping, he has to be a FA

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by joeybw on Dec 18, 2009 1:35 PM EST up reply actions  

Can you make Navarro look like Elian Gonzalez

so Cuba will take him off of our hands, i’ll pitch in for the Lipo.

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by CubFanRaysaddict on Dec 18, 2009 1:43 PM EST up reply actions  

yes

anyone mind if I get PTB addicted to speed and roids?

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by joeybw on Dec 18, 2009 1:45 PM EST up reply actions  

he will not accept a deal to the west

oh no, Wren, dont trade him back to NY or to Boston

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by joeybw on Dec 18, 2009 1:46 PM EST up reply actions  

who will take him though?

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by joeybw on Dec 18, 2009 2:06 PM EST up reply actions  

Good point.

The Royals haven’t done anything stupid for a while……

by PhillyRays on Dec 18, 2009 2:22 PM EST up reply actions  

I swear if they bench Butler to play PTB, Dayton Moore better be shot

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by joeybw on Dec 18, 2009 2:24 PM EST up reply actions  

Remember Maddon's quote?

“BJ, Pat and Navarro struggled but I think they will be much better this season”

well that was the general idea of the quote

unless they make a couple of out of no where trades, Navi and PTB will be back, please prove Maddon right, guys. And you too, Upton, bring out your inner awesomeness please

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by joeybw on Dec 18, 2009 2:23 PM EST reply actions  

I still think Navi gets moved.

Can’t see AF spending close to 6 mil on catchers.

by PhillyRays on Dec 18, 2009 2:28 PM EST reply actions  

at this point, he may have to

someone needs to be a backup and I don’t really want Jaso’s non defense or Lobaton’s non bat.

They have to get it into Navi’s head(hell, Shoppach also) to not always swing for a HR, just make contact. They both wanna hit 40 homers.

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by joeybw on Dec 18, 2009 2:31 PM EST up reply actions  

Is Navi a bat vs RHP?

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by FreeZorilla on Dec 18, 2009 2:44 PM EST up reply actions  

he was in 08

he did not show up for 09, I am sure he can bring 08 Navi back if he grows a brain. Stop swinging for homers, Navi

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by joeybw on Dec 18, 2009 2:48 PM EST up reply actions  

.767 OPS with a .336 BABIP

You won’t see that again. Not a good OPS for that BABIP

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by FreeZorilla on Dec 18, 2009 2:50 PM EST up reply actions  

For example on 09

Player…..BABIP…….OPS…..BB%…..SpeedScr
Bourn…….367…………738……9.4……..8.6
NMorgan….360……….757…..7.9………9.4
Fowler………355……….770…..13.4……7.6
Podsenik……342……..764……6.8…….6.4
Scumaker……342….757……..8.9…….2.9
Castillo———-.342…..732…….12.4……5.4

All these players either walk and/or have speed

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by FreeZorilla on Dec 18, 2009 2:58 PM EST up reply actions  

I know he sucks

but we can like it or not, hes still getting 2.1 mil from us.

Come on Navi, learn how to just make contact against a rightie. I don’t want another season of leaving the room with 2 outs and you up

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by joeybw on Dec 18, 2009 3:03 PM EST up reply actions  

Not if he's traded

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by FreeZorilla on Dec 18, 2009 3:04 PM EST up reply actions  

name some guys who can hit righties who we have a shot at

besides Jaso and Lobaton

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by joeybw on Dec 18, 2009 3:06 PM EST up reply actions  

Why are you convinced Lobe's can't put up Navi like #'s?

I mentioned some AAA names who could be worth a shot previously. Kyle Phillips and Luke Carlin. Its a .640 Career OPS vs RHP that needs to be replaced. We aren’t replacing Burrell here.

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by FreeZorilla on Dec 18, 2009 3:10 PM EST up reply actions  

I liked Phillips

First we have to see if anyone will take Navarro even

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by joeybw on Dec 18, 2009 3:12 PM EST up reply actions  

So Jason Bay ONLY has the Mets going after him?

Can’t be true, Angels need SOMETHING this offseason and the Sox stole him once already from us, now they can steal him from under the Met’s noses

Minaya, Moore and Hendry must be fired before a crazy fan kills them….

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by joeybw on Dec 18, 2009 2:34 PM EST reply actions  

The funny thing is

is that the Mets are the only team going after him and they’re bidding against themselves by considering going to 5 years with him.

I wonder who’s dumber – Omar, Hendry, or Moore? That could be the question for the ages right there.

by PhillyRays on Dec 18, 2009 2:37 PM EST up reply actions  

This is one of the reasons Bavasi was so dumb

The guy who is paying 12 mil a year for Carlos fucking Silva is the worst
Paying Kendall 2 years/6 mil isnt so smart either

believe it or not but Minaya wins this one, he isnt doing anything but him sitting on his hands is better than paying guys like Kendall and Silva so much

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by joeybw on Dec 18, 2009 2:41 PM EST up reply actions  

while its still better than paying Silva

and Putz was coming off a good season, thats a good point. Castillo isn’t the best deal either.

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by joeybw on Dec 18, 2009 2:52 PM EST up reply actions  

I've said it before and I'll say it again

I don’t think Navi was as good as he was in ‘08, but I also don’t think he’s as bad as he was in ‘09. I’d be happy if he could find some type of middle ground.

by PhillyRays on Dec 18, 2009 2:35 PM EST reply actions  

I am even fine with K and fly outs(unless its a man on 3rd 2 outs....)

but not so many grounders, he is too god damn slow even if Pat makes him look like Ichiro on the basepaths

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by joeybw on Dec 18, 2009 2:38 PM EST up reply actions  

oh and Cubs got 9 mil which saves them 6 mil

congrats, you have one of the worst, most overpaid, fat SP’s in baseball but you saved 6 mil!

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by joeybw on Dec 18, 2009 2:36 PM EST reply actions  

with that in mind:

The Cubs save $5 mill. Had they taken Burrell, they could have sent up to $7 mill for the money to be even. I’m confused.

by rglass44 on Dec 18, 2009 2:47 PM EST up reply actions  

because Silva has "some use to them"

he shouldn’t even be a RP, a bad defensive Burrell is still better

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by joeybw on Dec 18, 2009 2:49 PM EST up reply actions  

And Burrrell is hitting lots of homers

oh how sweet it would be

fuck you Cubs, enjoy Fukudome and Byrd as saviors

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by joeybw on Dec 18, 2009 2:54 PM EST up reply actions  

Not so bad

Really think that Burrel will play much better. DH in the American League East is very different than outfielder in the NL. One season to get used to it, and than perform!

by hans k on Dec 18, 2009 3:17 PM EST reply actions  

I'm deep frying a bird tomorrow so if you guys don't hear from me on Monday

It’s because I blew South Tampa clear off the map.

I'm a Brett Favre honk so FUCK YOU!

by PriceMultiCyYoungs on Dec 18, 2009 3:25 PM EST reply actions  

yum

Then N. Tampa will be near the water. Lucky them.

by rglass44 on Dec 18, 2009 3:48 PM EST up reply actions  

How is it even a choice?
The Rays options from here are pretty simple. Either keep Burrell and allow him to bounce back, or trade him for salary relief and pursue another free agent DH.

If we can get the salary relief, we’re probably better off DHing S-Rod or Aybar, much less signing someone like Cust who’s available and cheap.

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by Brickhaus on Dec 18, 2009 6:07 PM EST reply actions  

if 9 mil was dropped at our doorstep

I would try to keep CC. Just back load so he doesn’t make much this year and then next year, we will have the money from Pena, Soriano and probably Wheeler leaving.

of course, i don’t even know if the Royals want PTB

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by joeybw on Dec 18, 2009 7:06 PM EST up reply actions  

I might actually go to some mariners games this year

Now that they have a surly black for me to cheer on.

Lincecum is the greatest ball player we will ever see play, besides barry bonds, don't even try and argue it.

by putupyourDUKES on Dec 18, 2009 9:09 PM EST reply actions   2 recs

Ladies and Gentlemen, the Chicago Cubs

lolz

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by JMB on Dec 18, 2009 11:36 PM EST reply actions  

The two local favorites up here are a

jap and a black guy. If milton produces, no one will care about his surlyness here in seattle.

Lincecum is the greatest ball player we will ever see play, besides barry bonds, don't even try and argue it.

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