Report: Rays Among Johnny Damon's Top Choices
Now that Milton Bradley is a Seattle Mariner, we need a new rumor to keep our hot stove burning. Ken Davidoff was nice enough give us a little branch to throw on the fire. In his baseball insider column, he mentions that Johnny Damon has turned his attention from re-signing with the New York Yankees to signing elsewhere. Where does Damon prefer to go? Davidoff lists the following teams as Damon's "top three choices": Atlanta Braves, Chicago Cubs and...the Tampa Bay Rays. Say what?
While Damon may prefer the Rays, the pairing doesn't seem likely; in his column, Davidoff admits as much. I'm not sure the Rays would even discuss the possibility until Pat Burrell was moved first.. Nonetheless, it's the hot stove. It's Andrew Friedman. And as Kevin Garnett pointed out a few years ago, anything is possible.
Talent-wise, Damon would be a nice addition to the Rays. He is perennial 2.5-3 WAR player and his average wOBA over the last four years is a stellar .362. He is also American League East proven having spent the last eight seasons in baseball's best division. He takes his walks. He doesn't strikeout much, and he has some decent pop. I do believe his 2009 career high .207 ISO is largely due to his home ballpark, but his career .150 ISO shows there has always been some power. In the previous three years Damon hit .286/.362/.448 where as last year he hit .282/.365/.489.
While his stolen bases dipped down to 12 (his lowest since his rookie season of 1995 in which he only played 45 games), Damon remains an above average base runner. Thanks to my free copy of the 2010 Bill James Handbook supplied by Acta Sports, I found that the league average for moving from first base to third on a single was 26.8%. Damon's rate was nearly 41% (13/32). He also scored on a single from second base around 66% of the time. For comparison, arguably our smartest/best base runner, Jason Bartlett, scored 43% of the time. Note: small sample size.
The talent is not an issue. Where Damon would play and how much he would command are both issues. For these reasons, a deal is not likely to happen. Once upon a time, Damon was a pretty decent center field; however, those days are long gone. In his current form, Damon has been sneaking by as a left fielder. Obviously, left and center field are not options here, and his noodle arm would not fit in right field. DH is the only option and currently the Rays have one of those. That said, if he Damon's market crashes and he becomes an absolute bargain, we can worry about positions later.
Damon has reportedly moved on from the Yankees because the two sides couldn't agree on terms. Most reports say a two-year time frame was acceptable for both. The Yankees offer was reportedly tw-years/$14 million, but Damon's agent, Scott Boras, is set to be asking for over $10 million annually. I don't even have to explain why that wouldn't work here*.
Much like other veterans nearing the end of their road, who have offered their services to the Rays (Ken Griffey, Gary Sheffield, etc.), I think the Rays will dash Damon's hopes and take a pass unless the price is just too good to pass up. If Damon is still sitting on the market in late-January, and lowers his demands a la Bobby Abreu in 2009, then count me in.
*Before it comes up...trading Carl Crawford for prospects, and turning around and signing Damon would cost the team roughly one, maybe two wins in 2010 while providing no salary relief. So, no.
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Considering Boras is his agent
All three of those teams seem pretty unlikely. And whether he’s looking for $10M or not, I’d be willing to bet he’ll be sorry he didn’t take the Yankees’ offer by the end of the offseason. He’ll probably end up with a one year deal around $7 – 8 million. There just isn’t much corner outfield availability this offseason, and he’s not good enough to be worth that kind of price tag for almost any team to upgrade to him.
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by Brickhaus on Dec 21, 2009 8:34 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
I definitely think he blew his opportunity
To make the most money by leaving the Yankees offer. He’s a step down from Bay or Holliday and like you said there aren’t many teams in the market for his services.
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by Tommy Rancel on Dec 21, 2009 8:41 AM EST via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
The moral of this story: If Scott Boras tells you to walk away from a Yankee offer
Fire Scott Boras and hire another agent.
I can't wait until we trade him for a reliever.
by kericr on Dec 21, 2009 8:59 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
Sorry, Johnny
Enjoy your 1 year deal in somewhere other than NY and Tampa. And next time, be a man and stand up to Boras. He ain’t the boss of you.
by PhillyRays on Dec 21, 2009 9:19 AM EST via mobile reply actions 0 recs
Is he this years Abreu? will make 1year/6-7 mil
I don’t want him on our field and I don’t know of any team that wants PTB
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by joeybw on Dec 21, 2009 10:07 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
You really Johnny Damon would be a good DH?
The only reason his power numbers were up last year is because of Yankee stadium’s nice little right field porch.
by Samwise Sutty on Dec 21, 2009 10:31 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
17 home runs at Yankee stadium. 7 away.
He isn’t a better option than Fat the Bat.
by Samwise Sutty on Dec 21, 2009 10:32 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I'd want him as a DH
if the Rays could dump PtB somewhwere. But , I definitely don’t want him in the outfield.
by Blue or CONKZILLA on Dec 21, 2009 10:22 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
OT: UW-Whitewater DIII National Champs
WHAT WHAT!
I'm a Brett Favre honk so FUCK YOU!
by PriceMultiCyYoungs on Dec 21, 2009 10:37 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
Congrats, I was going to watch that and then forgot
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by Andy Hellicksonstine on Dec 21, 2009 10:53 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
There was a 5 hr delay so they moved it to ESPN Classic.
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by PriceMultiCyYoungs on Dec 21, 2009 11:02 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
It did not look good there in the 2nd half, but WOOT.
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by PlayOnWords on Dec 21, 2009 11:00 AM EST via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
Damon is from Apopka and he's said before that his favorite team is the Bucs.
This is not surprising. But I don’t think we need him. He could regrow the beard to replace our lost Jesus% though…
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by PlayOnWords on Dec 21, 2009 10:59 AM EST via mobile reply actions 0 recs
FreeZo is going to shit a brick when he see's this
http://www.beyondtheboxscore.com/2009/12/21/1208572/2009-catcher-block-percentage#storyjump
Pretty crazy that we could have had the lefty bat/defensive whiz, all in one package, for the same money as Navi. I hope fatboy is running right now and everyday until March.
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by Andy Hellicksonstine on Dec 21, 2009 11:02 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
Nobody reads fanshots.
I'm a Brett Favre honk so FUCK YOU!
by PriceMultiCyYoungs on Dec 21, 2009 11:03 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I had this thread open and came across it in another tab, sorry PMCY.
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by Andy Hellicksonstine on Dec 21, 2009 11:06 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
No apologies to me. Not my fanshot.
I'm a Brett Favre honk so FUCK YOU!
by PriceMultiCyYoungs on Dec 21, 2009 11:08 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
In that case, I hope the Vikes trade that cancer at QB for Carlos Silva and a 6-pack.
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by Andy Hellicksonstine on Dec 21, 2009 11:09 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
So cunty this Holiday week...
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by PriceMultiCyYoungs on Dec 21, 2009 11:11 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
That's the true Christmas spirit.
I can't wait until we trade him for a reliever.
by kericr on Dec 21, 2009 11:15 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Can't say Christmas, there are Joos here...
I'm a Brett Favre honk so FUCK YOU!
by PriceMultiCyYoungs on Dec 21, 2009 11:16 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Damn shape shifters...they'll get ya.
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by PriceMultiCyYoungs on Dec 21, 2009 11:18 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
But he's...not Jewish?
Plus, their fake one-upsmanship-mas is already over.
I can't wait until we trade him for a reliever.
by kericr on Dec 21, 2009 11:32 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Also
Look at this guy:
I think they’ve had enough.
I can't wait until we trade him for a reliever.
by kericr on Dec 21, 2009 11:35 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Dude looks like
he’s wearing a lampshade.
by Blue or CONKZILLA on Dec 21, 2009 1:14 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Well...
PC has nothing to do with who you’re actually talking to. As long as someone can hear/read it, you can’t say it regardless of who it was directed to.
This is why politics (and employment law) frustrate the hell out of me. There is zero logic involved.
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by PriceMultiCyYoungs on Dec 21, 2009 12:52 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
The holiday season is like kryptonite to this bitter hate-monger
Sternfan and I are going to split a fifth and complain about how the world was once a great place, before the (insert non-indigenous group here) showed up.
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by Andy Hellicksonstine on Dec 21, 2009 11:18 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Europeans?
I can't wait until we trade him for a reliever.
by kericr on Dec 21, 2009 11:32 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Pretty much
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by FreeZorilla on Dec 21, 2009 11:16 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
yeah he was great at blocking balls and hitting righties
but did he throw ANYONE out when he got here? Very weak arm.
It was nice, however, when JP kept spiking the ball and Zaun found a way to block it.
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by joeybw on Dec 21, 2009 11:16 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
1-14 with us
but he was at 26% with the Os (10-29)
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by FreeZorilla on Dec 21, 2009 11:18 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
To be fair here is how Zaun rated on devil fingers system:
Keep in mind this is counting (playing time matters) where as /120 is a rate stat:
RAA
Caught Stealing: 0.2
WP/PB: 2.9
Throwing Err: -0.9
Fielding -0.4
Total Value 1.8
Comes out to 2.9 RAA/120
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by FreeZorilla on Dec 21, 2009 11:28 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Shoppach is sad.
Need a New Sig- LOOKING FOR IDEAS!
by Some other guy who does not care on Dec 21, 2009 11:46 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
To be fair when looking at Shoppach as I did Zaun above in overall catcher D
Shoppach is 2.4 runs BELOW avg over 120 game for a difference of 4 runs. I have no gripe with Shoppach. Zaun added value vs RHP and in defense whereas Navi’s biggest strength (vs LHP) is also Shopp’s biggest.
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by FreeZorilla on Dec 21, 2009 11:55 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Damon stuck it to Boston by going to NY
now to get them both back, he wants to be a Ray, well we spent all our money already and it was on something we needed. Go to Chicago, Damon, your defense fits them perfectly
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by joeybw on Dec 21, 2009 11:19 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
LOL
Bluejays anyone?
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by Some other guy who does not care on Dec 21, 2009 11:44 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
If anything, if he came to TB then he could grow his bread back and stop looking like a clean-shaven tool.
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by Thaddeus? on Dec 21, 2009 11:37 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
Gary Sheffield
I hate to be the guy that brings him back up, but I saw a couple of blurbs this weekend indirectly linking interest in him as a DH to the Rays. There’s a short blurb in the Boston Globe saying that teams 4 have contacted him which he wouldn’t elaborate on, but stated that Atlanta, Seattle, New York Mets, Tampa Bay are all looking for right-handed power bats (the fact that he named four, and exactly four teams makes me think that they were stated off the record).
There was also a passing mention in the Times that Sheff is in the best shape he’s been in a few years and is looking for a 2 year deal to reach 3,000 hits, and that ’he’d love to finish his career in Tampa.’
I know that when the trade rumors popped up in 2008 that it didn’t look good then because it looked like he was finally slumping out, but he had a pretty solid bounceback year doing some platoon duty for the Mets (.276/.372/.451, 40bb/46k). I’d like to see him if the team could grab him on the cheap and make the 2nd year a team option.
I can't wait until we trade him for a reliever.
by kericr on Dec 21, 2009 12:27 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
I was thinking about this.
He had a nice little year with the Mets and if he’s willinging to come cheap, I’m on board.
by Samwise Sutty on Dec 21, 2009 12:53 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I love the Times mention.
Right after bashing Milton, they shill for Sheff.
I’d rather have Burrell.
by R.J. Anderson on Dec 21, 2009 12:57 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Why have one when you can haz both!!!!
I prefer Sheff’s mania to Burrell’s egomania. Much more entertaining.
by Samwise Sutty on Dec 21, 2009 1:17 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
we should get Bradley from the M's put him in CF
Sheffield in LF, Burrell at RF and break the all time error record
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by joeybw on Dec 21, 2009 1:43 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
You can't get an error on what you don't get a glove on
And they wouldn’t get a glove on anything.
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by Andy Hellicksonstine on Dec 21, 2009 1:56 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
OMG JOHNNY DAMON IS ON MONDAY NIGHT RAW
THAT MEANS VERY LITTLE EXCEPT RAW IS IN TAMPA TONIGHT !!! WE ARE GETTING DAMON !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
by raysrule44 on Dec 21, 2009 9:09 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Dear Mr. Friedman-
Please no over the hill, one dimensional, egolomaniacs. Especially ones who can’t throw a ball farther than I can. See: Damon, Sheffield.
by pslieber on Dec 22, 2009 7:47 AM EST reply actions 0 recs

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