Winter Meetings Day Two Open Thread
by R.J. Anderson on Dec 8, 2009 9:46 AM EST
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Woot! Thanks RJ.
So I posted this on the Halladay thread, but with 300+ posts it probably got lost.
The Bravos will be looking to unload Soriano after he accepted arb. I’d imagine his arb. figure will be a little north of the $6 mill he got last year. Anyone think he might be a guy we’d have interest in?
What about a possible Burrell for Soriano swap?
I'd be all for that, but knowing some people around the Braves
They don’t want any part of Burrell.
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by Tommy Rancel on Dec 8, 2009 9:59 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
Yes. One said he thought he was toast.
Although, they definitely weren’t expecting Soriano or Gonzo back.
by R.J. Anderson on Dec 8, 2009 10:00 AM EST up reply actions
So would you trade for Soriano, though?
The salary is kinda scary in the BP, but I imagine he’d be cheap to acquire talent-wise. I’d almost be willing to flip Aybar back to them.
What do we do at DH then?
And no, I wouldn’t give up Aybar for him.
by R.J. Anderson on Dec 8, 2009 10:06 AM EST up reply actions
Aybar at DH?
S-Rod, Aybar, and Pena rotating? Trade for Jack Cust? Sign a cheap bat to use in the rotation with the others?
Rodriguez
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"Baseball is played on the field, not on a calculator."
I guess that means the owner's daughters must be both hot and loose then.
I can't wait until we trade him for a reliever.
I cant wait for the miss information today
yes
by Zander_Under the Trop on Dec 8, 2009 9:56 AM EST reply actions
CC FOR MAUER!
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by Tommy Rancel on Dec 8, 2009 9:58 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
Why I never realized there's a Rays blog on SB Nation..
is beyond me. Hope it’s as lively as the Iowa Hawkeyes blog. Anyway, I really want to see any major trades. I like the group we have, and even Burrell, I don’t want to see traded for someone else. No more high salary guys, please.
It's been a touch slow as of late, but normally there's lots going on. Welcome.
I can't wait until we trade him for a reliever.
Thanks!
It’s understandable. Offseason and all. I’m actually from Saint Petersburg, not Tampa, but no one back home knows where St.Pete is, hence TampaHawk
WEAK.
St. Pete > Tampa, by a wide margin. Gotta represent.
by Suttree on Dec 8, 2009 10:57 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
CLEARWATER IS WAY MORE GOTH THAN TARPON SPRINGS
Bad Left Hook - The SB Nation boxing blog
"Baseball is played on the field, not on a calculator."
I miss goth talk!
Maybe I’m just an old fashioned BJ suck-off-er. (Good call Sandy)
by Lurch's Lobbyists on Dec 8, 2009 11:35 AM EST up reply actions
I swear I've seen this on DRB before.
It was also about the same Goth topic.
AMIRITE?
I'm a Brett Favre honk so FUCK YOU!
by PriceMultiCyYoungs on Dec 8, 2009 11:35 AM EST up reply actions
I think it's my stock response
whenever someone gets into a Tampa vs St. Pete pissing contest
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"Baseball is played on the field, not on a calculator."
Brick, I'd be interested in hearing your thoughts on Mayweather vs Pacquiao...
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by PriceMultiCyYoungs on Dec 8, 2009 11:37 AM EST up reply actions
Agree. Man is a freak.
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by PriceMultiCyYoungs on Dec 8, 2009 11:38 AM EST up reply actions
Dr. Oppenheimer, I presume?
I'm a writer.
by Andy Hellicksonstine on Dec 8, 2009 11:42 AM EST up reply actions
I favor Mayweather by a pretty substantial margin
But then again, I favored Hoya to beat Pacquiao, and I thought Hatton and Cotto would be close fights. I think it will be a close fight through about 6, and then Mayweather will pull away. Pac’s reach is just too short to connect with someone that much longer than him and elusive on a regular basis.
Bad Left Hook - The SB Nation boxing blog
"Baseball is played on the field, not on a calculator."
Interesting...
BUT IF YOU SAW YOUR DAD EATING YOUR DOG AT THE DINNER TABLE YOU WOULD NEVER LOSE A FIGHT, EVER.
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by PriceMultiCyYoungs on Dec 8, 2009 11:48 AM EST up reply actions
I'm just glad I was able to sleep last night
after I saw Shouse rejected arbitration.
Firefighters respond to a 911 call from Tiger Woods home, this is not a repeat from last week.
http://www.tampabay.com/sports/golf/article1057204.ece
I can't wait until we trade him for a reliever.
Who cares
Women are things
I'm a writer.
by Andy Hellicksonstine on Dec 8, 2009 10:16 AM EST up reply actions
So 39-man roster, I'm thinking we make a Rule Five nibble on Thursday
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I wonder who the Yanlks have their eye on.
There must be someone because they picked up the Nats number 1 pick in the Bruney deal.
Thank God Pudge signed with the Nats
I was sick of that rumor.
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by Andy Hellicksonstine on Dec 8, 2009 10:22 AM EST reply actions
Crawford-Quentin
Sources with Tampa Bay and the Sox said the sides had talked several times this offseason, not only checking out closer Bobby Jenks and his availability in a deal, but more specifically a trade that would have sent Carlos Quentin to the Rays for Carl Crawford.
Source: Chicago Sun Times
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I wonder if we offered Craw for Nelson Cruz too.
by R.J. Anderson on Dec 8, 2009 10:29 AM EST up reply actions
I think that would be a pretty decent deal.
Without crunching any numbers. Cruz has like 3 years of cost control left, and he’s a 3-4 win player it seems, CC has one, and he’s a 4-5 win player.
by R.J. Anderson on Dec 8, 2009 10:35 AM EST up reply actions
I'd do it if it wasn't for my mancrush on CC.
My mancrush on CC is probably ruining his knees though.
I can't wait until we trade him for a reliever.
I'd be okay with this if we used the freed up money to extend a player.
Officially now the head of the Lobstein bandwagon.
Shouldn't you be at recess or homeroom...
or some place that is NOT here.
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by PriceMultiCyYoungs on Dec 8, 2009 11:03 AM EST up reply actions
And I think if we trade CC
it’ll be to a club that actually plays on GRASS.
Indirect praise is still praise
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by Andy Hellicksonstine on Dec 8, 2009 10:32 AM EST up reply actions
How many first place votes did Cuse get?
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by Andy Hellicksonstine on Dec 8, 2009 10:32 AM EST up reply actions
Dick Weiss strikes again
He’s a smart man and he’s going to have a big I told you so for everyone at the end of the year.
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by Andy Hellicksonstine on Dec 8, 2009 10:36 AM EST up reply actions
I see the Nats traded their Rule 5 pick to the Yankees for Bruney
Anyway we do that for Shoppach?
Our Rule 5 pick is near the bottom, no?
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by Andy Hellicksonstine on Dec 8, 2009 10:32 AM EST up reply actions
Anybody suprised that Carl Pavano accepted arbitration from the twinkies?
I can't wait until we trade him for a reliever.
No, he'll ge 5 million in arb. No way he gets that on the open market with his injury history.
Tools Whore
That's what I was thinking. If the Twins want him, OK, but if they were just fishing for draft picks, this is stupid.
And even then, if they wanted him, offering him arbitration seems pretty stupid since they probably could have saved a mil or more by just letting him get to FA.
I can't wait until we trade him for a reliever.
A bird in the hand is worth 2 in the bush
Pavano fits in well to their philosophical approach. He can slot in as a number 2-3. I saw Phil Humber pitch in Rochester last year and he won’t be a ML option, much like everyone else at Rochester. Their upper-level farm is pretty depleted right now. I like the move, personally.
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by Andy Hellicksonstine on Dec 8, 2009 11:40 AM EST up reply actions
They love crappy, middling starters.
It’s like their MO. Can he miss bats? Not really. Great. Does he pump the strike-zone? Great. Sign him up.
Slowey and Baker are pretty good, though. I still believe in Liriano too.
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by PriceMultiCyYoungs on Dec 8, 2009 11:52 AM EST up reply actions
Baker is probably the most underrated pitcher in the AL
He’s pretty good. I’d like to see them re-sign Crede, with JJ at SS, and any number of all-glove, no-hit options at 2B they would be set to have a pretty good infield, defensively at least.
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by Andy Hellicksonstine on Dec 8, 2009 11:56 AM EST up reply actions
I'm going to go with 0%
I have at least a 50/50 shot of being the closest
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LETS TRADE NEIMANN FOR JOSH HAMILTON SO HE CAN DH!!!!1!11juan
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by PriceMultiCyYoungs on Dec 8, 2009 11:00 AM EST reply actions
I don't think that's quite what he meant.
Also, I’d guess he probably doesn’t need to be linked to the ‘avoid ban’ post, since he clearly knows how to navigate a web forum.
I can't wait until we trade him for a reliever.
I find it quite humorous that we are thought to be the nutjobs for thinking that the Halladay trade isn't entirely far-fetched and could be done with a little extra work.
http://www.tampabay.com/sports/baseball/rays/article1057171.ece
I can't wait until we trade him for a reliever.
The damning quote:
A couple of hours later, foxsports.com headlined a report that wasn’t just incorrect but, in a word, preposterous: that the Rays would consider giving up two premium young players to get one year of Halladay. (Plus, they’d have to add his $15.75 million salary to their already strained payroll of just more than $60 million.)
Perhaps, and I’m must you know, throwing it out there, but perhaps attendance might raise just a tad on nights when Halladay pitches.
I can't wait until we trade him for a reliever.
Attendance is important
WHY?
Why do you kill threads????
by Some other guy who does not care on Dec 8, 2009 11:41 AM EST up reply actions
O/U on attendance bonus on Halladay pitch days: 10,000
I can't wait until we trade him for a reliever.
I don't think acquiring Halladay is as far-fetched as they make it out to be.
While I know that type of trade isn’t in our m.o., I think it could work with the right combination of players. I’d be curious if Halladay would give the Rays a small hometown discount on a 3-year deal.
The 3 year deal I doubt would happen.
Regardless of price, because I’d think Halladay would want something longer.
If I could take cost out of the equation, I wouldn’t even blink at signing him to a 6 year contract. That arm is never falling off. He’ll be able to pitch until he can’t throw for velocity anymore.
I can't wait until we trade him for a reliever.
haha
Just to add a little intrigue, ESPN’s Buster Olney says “one idea raised” was the Yankees getting both Granderson and Jackson
Jackson back in the Al East.
Why do you kill threads????
by Some other guy who does not care on Dec 8, 2009 11:43 AM EST reply actions
Heyman saying most viable rumor is 3 way with Edwin to D Backs, Granderson to NY
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Also
The Nationals agreed to sign Ivan Rodriguez to a two-year deal worth $6MM, according to Yahoo’s Tim Brown.
There goes big pudge.
Why do you kill threads????
by Some other guy who does not care on Dec 8, 2009 11:44 AM EST reply actions
Nothing of value was gained
I'm a writer.
by Andy Hellicksonstine on Dec 8, 2009 11:45 AM EST up reply actions
Cept the nationals
get a vet. catcher for strasburg.
Why do you kill threads????
by Some other guy who does not care on Dec 8, 2009 11:49 AM EST up reply actions
His brain is his only worthwhile part
He hasn’t hit like an AL-avg catcher in 3 seasons. He’s probably an average defensive catcher, at best.
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by Andy Hellicksonstine on Dec 8, 2009 11:54 AM EST up reply actions
True
Why do you kill threads????
by Some other guy who does not care on Dec 8, 2009 11:55 AM EST up reply actions
Kay so
ESPN.com’s Jayson Stark reports that the Rays haven’t backed off on a possible Milton Bradley deal, even though talks with the Mets involving Pat Burrell are now dead. Money is currently the biggest obstacle between the two clubs and a deal. Two or three new teams have apparently expressed interest in Bradley since the meetings began this morning.
Two or three teams???
Why do you kill threads????
by Some other guy who does not care on Dec 8, 2009 11:50 AM EST reply actions
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