Catcher Alternatives from the Left Side
With the departure of Gregg Zaun, it appears the Rays are ready to have Kelly Shoppach catch 120 games or so in 2010.While Shoppach qualifies as serviceable vs right-handed pitching, he excels versus lefties. This should leave the Rays looking for a catcher who can hit from the left side of the dish or at least one has shown the ability to hit either hand adequately. What options are out there? Let's break them down into two categories: internal and external options.
Internal Options
Jose Lobaton
Lobaton is a switch-hitting catcher who was claimed off waivers from the Padres when he was designated for assignment upon acquiring Sean Gallagher from Oakland. The Rays thought enough of Lobaton to keep five catchers on the 40 man roster. The 25 year-old Venezuelan was initially signed as an amateur free agent by the Padres in 2002. Prior to being claimed by the Rays, Lobaton was named the best defensive catcher in the Padres farm system consecutive years. We can probably assume he would at least not be a liability behind the plate.
As for the stick, Lobaton had a brief hiccup at AAA in 2008 with the Padres with a slash of .241/.292/.353 in 148 PA. At all previous levels Lobaton displayed good on-base skills consistently walking comfortably over 10% of the time. Upon being claimed by the Rays he was sent to AA Montgomery where he had a nice line of .262/.376/.452. The previous year in AA he OPSed .760.
The key with Lobaton is he shows much better from the left side of the plate. If we isolate his LHB vs RHP appearances his numbers look like this over the past three years.
|
Year |
Level |
PA |
BA |
OBP |
SLG |
ISO |
BB% |
K% |
|
2007 |
A+ |
314 |
0.269 |
0.354 |
0.432 |
0.163 |
11.5% |
22.6% |
|
2008 |
AA |
287 |
0.271 |
0.347 |
0.457 |
0.186 |
11.2% |
22.7% |
|
2009 |
AA |
87 |
0.280 |
0.360 |
0.493 |
0.213 |
10.3% |
19.5% |
|
2009 |
AAA |
107 |
0.284 |
0.352 |
0.432 |
0.148 |
9.4% |
20.6% |
John Jaso
Jaso is a 26 year-old left-handed hitting catcher who was rapidly on the rise through the Rays farm system after being selected in the 12th round of the draft in 2003 by the Rays out of high school. He was added to the 40 man roster prior the the 2007 rule five draft. The biggest roadblock for Jaso has been his defense. However, he did have his worst offensive year at the plate in 2009. If there is to be a time for Jaso, in the organization, there probably won't be a better opportunity than now. Jaso has displayed decent power and excellent on-base skills throughout the minors with his BB:K ratio floating around one, always excellent for a double digit walker. He also does not find himself crippled by the sight of a lefty on the mound with a career OBP of .360 vs LHP. Jaso's #'s vs RHP splits can be found below:
|
Year |
Level |
PA |
BA |
OBP |
SLG |
ISO |
BB% |
K% |
|
2007 |
AA |
317 |
0.311 |
0.408 |
0.489 |
0.178 |
13.9% |
11.7% |
|
2008 |
AA |
280 |
0.267 |
0.398 |
0.409 |
0.142 |
17.5% |
9.6% |
|
2008 |
AAA |
78 |
0.278 |
0.333 |
0.514 |
0.236 |
7.7% |
9.0% |
|
2009 |
AAA |
307 |
0.261 |
0.358 |
0.364 |
0.103 |
11.7% |
12.4% |
External Options from the Minors
Luke Carlin
Carlin has had a long and winding road in professional baseball that has resulted in a couple cups of coffee in the bigs the past two seasons totaling about 100 PA. Originally drafted by the Tigers in the 10th round out of Northeastern in 2002, he was granteda quick release in 2003. He caught on with the Padres immediately and played in their organization for 6 years. He signed with Arizona in 2009 as a minor league free agent. Carlin did very little with the bat until 2008, essentially his 3rd full season in AAA. However in back to back years he has now posted OPSes of .828 and .911. Carlin is another switch-hitter who has fared better from the left.
As for the defensive book, the consensus say defense is his bread and butter. Scout.com had this to say in 2007:
2006 Defense (Triple-A Portland): .991 Fielding Percentage was second among all catchers in the Pacific Coast League. He caught 36% of runners attempting to steal (24 of 66). Carlin is like a brick wall behind the plate. His part-time catching role in Portland was sometimes staggered however Carlin performed with unwavering consistency. The 26 year-old calls a good game and challenges hitters and pitchers alike by calling for pitches on the inside portion of the plate. Carlin's pick-off move to first has seen a lot of improvement.
Carlin is either rule five eligible or a minor league free agent after being outrighted to AAA on December 3rd, depending on whether he accepts the assignment. I'm sure the consensus is he is a AAAA player based on his age of 29 years, but given the relative lack of an opportunity cost, he could be worth a ST look to an open-minded organization. Below are his splits over the past 3 years vs. RHP. At the least, he is a good defensive, poor hitting catcher who is willing to draw walks when given the chance.
|
Year |
Level |
PA |
BA |
OBP |
SLG |
ISO |
BB% |
K% |
|
2007 |
AAA |
239 |
0.243 |
0.357 |
0.337 |
0.094 |
15.1% |
24.3% |
|
2008 |
AAA |
90 |
0.296 |
0.433 |
0.507 |
0.211 |
17.8% |
23.3% |
|
2009 |
AAA |
202 |
0.345 |
0.448 |
0.53 |
0.185 |
15.4% |
19.8% |
Kyle Phillips
Phillips was drafted out of high school by the Twins in the 10th round of the 2002 draft. After spending 4 years with the Twins, he would spend 1 with the Brewers before finding a home in the Blue Jays organization in 2007. Like Jaso, the big question on Phillips is his defense. What the left-handed hitter has done consistently with the Blue Jays is murder right-handed pitching. Phillips is just 25, if his defense is better than subjectively advertised, he will have a future in the bigs. He was outrighted to AAA, and will be exposed in the Rule Five draft. His numbers vs. RHP are below.
|
Year |
Level |
PA |
BA |
OBP |
SLG |
ISO |
BB% |
K% |
|
2007 |
A+ |
342 |
0.329 |
0.372 |
0.453 |
0.124 |
7.0% |
9.9% |
|
2008 |
AA |
246 |
0.326 |
0.398 |
0.472 |
0.146 |
10.2% |
12.2% |
|
2009 |
AAA |
239 |
0.346 |
0.413 |
0.49 |
0.144 |
8.8% |
13.0% |
The Rays are in pretty good hands with Shoppach behind the dish, it is not worth giving up a key trading chip for a catcher who will play 40-50 games when there are freely available players within and outside of the system who have yet to be given a shot, and who would be less expensive than a veteran. Let's get three of these guys into camp and let the strong man survive.
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Half of these numbers
Don’t make any God damn sense to me. I mean, don’t get me wrong, I love the Rays, but most of this shit is chinese to someone who didn’t grow up with baseball.
Then this is a good site
for you to read so you can learn what they mean and why they are important. Even many people who did grow up with baseball are mystified by advanced statistics, but given a chance to learn and an open and inquisitive mind they often discover great insight and great beauty in reading and using them.
So many traditionalists fear advanced stats
i’m an over 50 guy who has always embraced stats
When i was a kid there weren’t many to choose from
Like anything else stats can be manipulated to make one’s case
as some of the Rays FO people have said that while all methods are used in evaluating no one stat is the end all
Hey, I did include Batting Average
These #‘s simply give a good indication on how the players fare vs. RHP. Some on-base #;s, some power #’s. This is not spinning a stat.
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I can't wait until you go back to being a mercurial dickface. That was more fun.
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That's why we never use just one stat discuss a player.
Maybe in a quick debate, but not in analysis.
Even with defense while the options are limited, we the numbers we have in conjunction with available scouting reports.
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by Tommy Rancel on Dec 9, 2009 9:31 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
What?
Only one of these (ISO) wouldn’t be familiar to anyone whose seen a baseball telecast.
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My only objection with this thread is
the hint that Shoppach will catch 120 games this year
Let’s wait and see what unfolds before we assume that happens
Sure, I think thats the worst case fallback scenario
I’m not sure they will invest a lot of dollars in another catcher though. I’d love for a cheap Lefty-Switch option to pan out and eat into that 120. I do think Shoppah is capable of handling 120.
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Shoppach was in Wedge's doghouse in CLE which as the years went on became more and more occupied
i too am excited he’ll do fine, just don’t expect a great ball blocking catcher
Yea thats the word.
Per devilfinger’s work on driveline mechanics, Shoppach measured in at 1.5 runs below average defensively. For reference Navi was .4 above. Zaun 1.8.
http://www.drivelinemechanics.com/2009/10/13/1082419/2009-catcher-defense-filling-in
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What's the most likely scenario to occur?
Jaso since he’s on 40 man (I think) and internal?
Signature space available for rent - Got to pay the bills somehow
Lobaton is on 40 as well
Jaso is the best guess, but his defensive evaluation is a mystery. If they are comfortable with his defense, he’s probably the guy.
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Hopefully he shows up to ST with a newfound defensive game in the best shape of his life.
In fact, I guarantee at least one column saying one of the two in the spring.
Lets just hope there is never an All-Star Catcher Defensive Skill Competition
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Did you see the snap throw portion of the competition?
Nevin hit each target in the first try and his aggregate time was 5 seconds
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How magical to do this in the final All-Star game here at the Trop as The Rays will begin playing in Las Vegas next year.
What a night!
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Hey, Phillips sounds perfect for us
Shoppach and Navi don’t know how to hit righties. I’ll take Phillips unless Jaso actually plays good defense but that would be out of no where…..
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