Report: Tampa Bay Rays Trying to Trade for Atlanta Braves Reliever Rafael Soriano
by R.J. Anderson on Dec 9, 2009 2:55 PM EST
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This comes way of Ken Rosenthal's Twitter (H/T Jonah Keri):
@Ken_Rosenthal: Rays, Astros the teams trying to trade for R. Soriano.
Soriano was a Type-A before accepting arbitration. That would be great and all, but the Braves had already signed a Type-A reliever of their own (Billy Wagner) and added a new set-up man (Takashi Saito). Rather than paying the bills on three expensive relievers, and since they cannot trade Saito already, the Braves are looking to move Soriano instead as the rules permit such movement after an acceptance of arbitration.
Soriano is good. Very, very good. His career xFIP is 3.65 while his career FIP is even lower at 3.31. He strands runners at an above average rate, and avoids bats very well (74.3% contact for his career). Soriano is a flyball pitcher and he will cost some change next year. It'll be interesting to see whether the Rays can sweeten the pot by giving Atlanta enough so as to receive some financial help in return.
Olney with this:
ATL asking for solid recent for Rafael Soriano, in addition to having other team pick up $. Unclear whether sometimes bites on asking price.
I'm assuming "sometimes" is suppose to be "someone".
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Me also semi-literate
should be “won’t come cheap in arb”.
Very interested to see what he would cost in terms of a trade
The Rays would have to get creative on adding his salary.
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by Tommy Rancel on Dec 9, 2009 2:59 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
maybe a Soriano/Burrell swap?
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The Braves don't like his character and his defense.
Plus, he’s almost certainly going to the Cubs. They’ll have to cave because no one else wants Bradley.
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They're not interested in Burrell.
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by Tommy Rancel on Dec 9, 2009 3:01 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
well then the money that we would free up in a trade for Bradley would pay for Soriano's salary
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If the Rays can't come to financial agreement with Cubs on Bradley, could it be a 3 way?
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hmm explain what would be going to each team
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Beats me
Soriano to us, Burrell to Cubs, Bradley to Braves, other players we have no idea about involved
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but i want Milton :(
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You missed the part about others involved
I don’t think we’d trade Burrell straaight up for an expensive reliever
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i would love this deal
we would be the closer
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also the astros are rumored to be close to getting Lindstrom
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Report that the Astros are "close" on Lindstrom
I’d assume that means they would be out on Soriano, which helps the Rays
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by Tommy Rancel on Dec 9, 2009 3:00 PM EST via mobile reply actions
i assume this as well
i would rather have Soriano
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I'm having a hard time thinking of what we would give and how we'd pay a bullpen arm ~7 million.
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by PriceMultiCyYoungs on Dec 9, 2009 3:05 PM EST reply actions
They could take back a Dan Wheeler type and would
Basically be splitting the difference.
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by Tommy Rancel on Dec 9, 2009 3:06 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
That was what I was just about to post.
I’ve been talking to my friend about it since he accepted arb.
They could take back a Dan Wheeler type and would
Basically be splitting the difference.
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by Tommy Rancel on Dec 9, 2009 3:06 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
I didn't even think of this. I like it.
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by PriceMultiCyYoungs on Dec 9, 2009 3:08 PM EST up reply actions
the money wont be a problem
if we trade Burrell and get Bradley on the cheap then Soriano’s deal wont affect us that much
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If we get Bradley, Burrell's money just gets re-appropriated to him
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by Andy Hellicksonstine on Dec 9, 2009 3:07 PM EST up reply actions
What, what?
Aren’t we on the hook for ~9 million from either PTB or Milton either way for the 2010 season? What they are waiting on is how much of 2011 the Cubs will eat, right?
So the 2010 money is “spent” no matter what, correct?
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by PriceMultiCyYoungs on Dec 9, 2009 3:09 PM EST up reply actions
That wasy my point
Still have to find 7M-Braves contribution for Soriano.
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by Andy Hellicksonstine on Dec 9, 2009 3:11 PM EST up reply actions
Oh, gotcha.
Thought you were saying take PTB monies and allocate to Soriano.
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by PriceMultiCyYoungs on Dec 9, 2009 3:12 PM EST up reply actions
No it would be allocated to Bradley which is now what RaysofHope was contending
The way that I read it.
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by Andy Hellicksonstine on Dec 9, 2009 3:14 PM EST up reply actions
Braves need a Bat
Who do we have lying around?
Perez, Elliot Johnson and Ruggiano.
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I don't think so. He's not good and they'll
have McClouth, Diaz, Jones/Heyward and Schafer on the roster already.
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JOYCE, WHEELER AND BARTLETT FOR YUNEL AND SORIANO.
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by PriceMultiCyYoungs on Dec 9, 2009 3:20 PM EST up reply actions
Crawford for Sori (paid) and McCann
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by Andy Hellicksonstine on Dec 9, 2009 3:21 PM EST up reply actions
Any chance a new GM might want Aybar back?
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"Baseball is played on the field, not on a calculator."
Maybe they would be interested in a certain 2008 All-Star catcher.
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no they have McCann
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But from the AL? McCann would be peanuts over here.
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Would Nando be enough to get them to throw in 2-3M?
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by Andy Hellicksonstine on Dec 9, 2009 3:07 PM EST reply actions
Probably not since they traded for McClouth.
Nando isn’t as good as Schafer and would be a 4/5 OFer, pinch runner/defensive replacement.
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He wont take much, Braves want him gone
We just gotta spend more money than we wanted to
Who do we want? Roy Halladay! When do we want him? NOW
Only 1yr luckily
And he’ll likely remain a FA Type-A
Maybe Wheeler+decent prospect.
Remember he’ll likely be Type A again next year, so you have to consider the possible picks that ATL is trading.
Wheeler and Ruggiano.
Sign lady must die.
by EminenceFront on Dec 9, 2009 3:10 PM EST up reply actions
Tommy has a sad.
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Sad-on?
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by PriceMultiCyYoungs on Dec 9, 2009 3:11 PM EST up reply actions
I am sick of being teased and being patient
Give me Soriano NOW
Who do we want? Roy Halladay! When do we want him? NOW
this deal would give us the 2nd best closer in the AL East
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Pure speculation, but we were in on Dice-K.
Any chance we get in on Chapman with his price tag reportedly plummeting?
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This would be fantastic. He's down to the 10-12 million range, right?
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by PriceMultiCyYoungs on Dec 9, 2009 3:16 PM EST up reply actions
Last I heard they were expecting him to get more than Strasburg, but less than 20 million.
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it would probably be over 5yrs
i would do that
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Who knows
If the Royals can sign someone, we could too
Royals dont know whats going on though
Same team that traded for Jacobs for OBP, his OBP was under .300…..
Who do we want? Roy Halladay! When do we want him? NOW
Royals are a flip flopping team
one move is great and the other is a dud
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Buster_ESPNfrom web ATL asking for solid recent for Rafael Soriano, in addition to having other team pick up $. Unclear whether sometimes bites on asking price.
Officially now the head of the Lobstein bandwagon.
Wheeler is solid
And if they take him the Rays could assume the entire arb figure for Soriano.
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by Tommy Rancel on Dec 9, 2009 3:21 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Wheeler would be better in the NL as well
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Which means we will read a ton of posts on giving up on Wheeler
The bitch of playing in the ALE. Always looks like you sold low and bought high.
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Wait til Edwin throws a 2 hitter in Petco
And Joyce strikes out 3x in a game.
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by Andy Hellicksonstine on Dec 9, 2009 3:45 PM EST up reply actions
You are making this sound more realistic.
Me excited.
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by PriceMultiCyYoungs on Dec 9, 2009 3:23 PM EST up reply actions
Low level ones, I'd assume?
It seems everyone knows the Braves can’t keep him.
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by PriceMultiCyYoungs on Dec 9, 2009 3:24 PM EST up reply actions
Well you can't trade a closer for a middle reliever.
It will cost talent. What, I don’t know, but my guess is a couple of 10-20 guys in our system.
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This.
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by PriceMultiCyYoungs on Dec 9, 2009 3:48 PM EST up reply actions
Wheels is due around 4M next year right?
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so half of what Soriano will probably make
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how great would it be to unload Wheels onto the braves for Soriano and Burrell to the Cubs for Bradley
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me too, i want rid of Burrell though
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I don't want to get rid of Burrell, but I prefer Bradley
However, if any rumor needed to come true this offseason it’s the Soriano one. He truly fills a need almost completely.
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by Tommy Rancel on Dec 9, 2009 3:38 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
What if we trade Burrell and 2 mil for Soriano
It would come out either even or us spending an extra mil, that would be a awesome deal
and PTB would crush in the NL East
Who do we want? Roy Halladay! When do we want him? NOW
Along with their own medical staff
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by CubFanRaysaddict on Dec 9, 2009 5:23 PM EST up reply actions
Love me some Soriano
but I bet he ends up in Boston. Braves are probably using our name to get a bigger return.
i thought that too
but now that we have interest i hope he comes here
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It would sure piss him off
He wants to be traded so he can be a closer. In Boston they would at the very least have Papelbon and Bard in front of him.
Who do we want? Roy Halladay! When do we want him? NOW
If we get Soriano, then the Howell/Soriano combo has many rhyming possibilities
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Give them Sonnanstine as a throw in.
He can be decent in the NL, me thinks. Also it’s the bat they covet !
Braves want a 1B
They might try to get Aybar back
Who do we want? Roy Halladay! When do we want him? NOW
He was a drunken, wife beater the last time he lived in the dirty
Don’t do it Willy!!!!!!
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by Andy Hellicksonstine on Dec 9, 2009 3:51 PM EST up reply actions
Cox probs still hate shim, and we've already discussed he's probably too much.
Maybe we do Aybar and Wheelz and get money/spects.
Beej interview coming up on 620.
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by PriceMultiCyYoungs on Dec 9, 2009 3:51 PM EST reply actions
DAMMIT, I'M JUST TRYING TO GET SOME GAMBLING TIPS FROM THE BIG DOG
GET THAT LAZY PIECE OF SHIT OFF OF THERE!!!!!!
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by Andy Hellicksonstine on Dec 9, 2009 3:54 PM EST up reply actions
Big Dog out today, probably why Upton was on.
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by PriceMultiCyYoungs on Dec 9, 2009 4:12 PM EST up reply actions
do you have a link?
I need to watch/hear something about the Rays
Who do we want? Roy Halladay! When do we want him? NOW
So Wikipedia says that Evan Longoria's nickname is "The Captain".
Anyone wanna put money down that Evan is the one who calls himself that? lol
Its for all the Captain Morgan he downs before games.
Sign lady must die.
by EminenceFront on Dec 9, 2009 3:55 PM EST up reply actions
I'm pretty sure that your mother was the one to give him that nickname.
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by Andy Hellicksonstine on Dec 9, 2009 3:55 PM EST up reply actions
MY MOM WAS KILLED IN A CAR ACCIDENT BY A GUY NAMED THE CAPTAIN *sob*
not really, but wouldn’t you feel bad if she had?
I feel nothing
I’m a heartless bastard.
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by Andy Hellicksonstine on Dec 9, 2009 3:57 PM EST up reply actions
Stuart Sternberg’s recent quote: ""The bank is full…There is no $7 million closer showing up."
That’s exactly what Soriano is, so the Braves are gonna have to pay a good amount of money to make this work which will cost us more prospects.
wouldn't be surprised if this deal is connected to acquiring Bradley
instead of Bradley costing 9 mil over 1 year, perhaps the Rays split it into 2 years giving more financial flexibility for payroll this season.
Or, perhaps Rays, like others have said here, trade Wheeler for Soriano, also another way to make the financial details work. Either way, Soriano can fit here cost-wise.
by raysfaninminnesota on Dec 9, 2009 4:16 PM EST up reply actions
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Rule 5 possibility, #Rays RHP Aneury Rodriguez: FB 89-91, made some strides with FB command, CB and CH still works in progress
Astros signed Lindstrom
maybe they can forget Soriano now
Who do we want? Roy Halladay! When do we want him? NOW
Come on Rays
Tracy Ringolsby of FOX Sports suggests the Rays are the frontrunner for Soriano, assuming they’ll expand their payroll to fit him in.
Who do we want? Roy Halladay! When do we want him? NOW
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