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Worst Individual Bullpen Seasons in Rays History

After reading this yesterday, color me unexcited about Troy Percival feeling "great."

Friedman said Percival has thrown off the mound a couple times and said he “feels great.” Nonetheless, the Rays are eager to get him into camp and get a firsthand look before figuring out exactly where things stand. Friedman expects Percival to report to Port Charlotte within the next couple of days.

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We heard this story far too often last year. Percival would get hurt, rehab, "feel great"  and then implode on the mound. This is also know as rinse, reuse, repeat.  Normally, a Percival appearance from the month of May forward would provoke a statement like "man, this guys is the worst." However, to my surprise he wasn't the worst reliever in Rays history as far as FIP is concerned. Again, we use FIP because it tells you how effective a pitcher was regardless of how his defense played.  Here is the list of the worst FIP's for a Rays reliever (min. 40 relief IP).

Name Year FIP
Zambrano 2002 6.11
Percival 2008 5.87
Colome 2002 5.79
Stokes 2007 5.76
Colome 2001 5.58
Yan 1999 5.47
Hammel 2008 5.46
Harper 2005 5.43
Meadows 2006 5.4
Sosa 2004 5.29

As you can see we all owe another round of applause to Mr. Chuck LaMar. Victor Zambrano was not only a 5.29 FIP starter when he was traded for Scott Kazmir, but his 48.2 innings of relief in 2002 were the worst as far as FIP is concerned. Percival, however, is right up there and because he was in higher leverage situations, you could argue that he was the worst. The rest of the list includes no surprises: Colome x2, Yan, Meadows and Harper were bad and we all knew that. One interesting note, while the 2007 bullpen was the worst collection of relievers, only Brian Stokes makes the list. However, the much improved 2008 bullpen features two relievers in this "top" 10.

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By looking great does he mean..

that Percival is coming to camp in some other shape rather than round?

by raysrule44 on Feb 11, 2009 3:47 PM EST reply actions  

I think it means

that his arm is still attached to his body.

Vogt early, Vogt often.

by Brickhaus on Feb 11, 2009 4:28 PM EST up reply actions  

Not trying to pimp Percy here

but look at his FIP in ‘99-’00 and in ‘03-’04 when he was regarded as one of the top closers in the game

http://www.fangraphs.com/statss.aspx?playerid=29&position=P

by Raymondo on Feb 11, 2009 4:15 PM EST reply actions  

Nelson-Howell-Balfour for the 7th-8th-9th in 09'

Doesn’t have to be in any particular order, but Grant in the 9th would be prefered.

Rays should probably just start looking at Percival as a sunk cost and move on.

by twenty5psi on Feb 11, 2009 4:30 PM EST reply actions  

Is the FIP as important of a stat

to a one inning closer as it is to a SP?

When a closer gets rocked for 5 ER, he ha littl chance to redeem his peripherals

by Raymondo on Feb 11, 2009 4:37 PM EST up reply actions  

but in reference to my above post

Percy had some high FIP numbers when he was deemed a ‘dominate closer’

by Raymondo on Feb 11, 2009 4:50 PM EST up reply actions  

Thats why "closers" are overrated

FIP focuses on K’s, BB’s and HR’s all things pitchers control. Percy’s HR/9 was 1.77 last year and his BB/9 was 5.32, just awful.

by Tommy Rancel on Feb 11, 2009 4:53 PM EST up reply actions  

Having bad nights

isn’t part of a closer’s job description. A bad night can directly contribute to a loss, and if you have enough of them, then you’ll end up losing more games by having the ‘dominant closer’ than you might have with normal above-average relievers.

Vogt early, Vogt often.

by Brickhaus on Feb 11, 2009 8:18 PM EST up reply actions  

Can we get the top 10 in worst WHIP?

McClung has got to be up there…..

Mound Visit

by Mound Visit on Feb 11, 2009 4:35 PM EST reply actions  

At first I thought the headline was "Worst Individual Bullpen SESSIONS"

And I was wonder how you were going to go about deciding that. I was guessing it was going to have a lot to do with Brian Stokes though.

by Albertrayon on Feb 11, 2009 6:53 PM EST reply actions  

Percival

Comes in with 2 run lead. Walk, Walk, Walk. Magical Longoria double play. Walk. Pop Up. Rays Win. Percy gets another Save.

by davelrogers on Feb 12, 2009 12:25 PM EST reply actions  

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