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Covering the Hammel Toe

We've run through every other topic so let's discuss Jason Hammel.

On one hand, Hammel isn't as bad you would think. Even last year in limited starting action Hammel possessed a FIP of 4.87. That's above replacement level by quite a bit and even lower than Edwin Jackson's full-season FIP. The peripherals that accompanied that FIP weren't pretty: 4.89 K/9, 3.9 BB/9, 0.98 HR/9, 59% strikes, 46% grounders, and 23% line drives, but hey, Edwin Jackson had some people clamoring for him, so why not Hammel?

In 2007, Hammel threw 67 innings as a starter and ~18 as a reliever. He saw more success as a starter, ending with 5 runs of value above replacement, but was below replacement level as a reliever (-0.1 runs). In 2006, Hammel was again above replacement level as a starter (~3 runs) and was not asked to do relief work. As we mentioned Hammel wasn't too poor as a starter in 2008 (2.3 runs) but for the most part failed as a mop-up reliever (-3.9 runs) which resulted in having negative value.

The Rays are going to quite a few pitchers with all but guaranteed bullpen jobs this spring: Dan Wheeler, J.P. Howell, Grant Balfour, Brian Shouse, Joe Nelson, and potentially Troy Percival. Add in Lance Cormier's guaranteed contract and Derek Rodriguez' situation and you have a full cast of characters fighting for the last two spots. If things weren't crowded enough, you still have to decide whether David Price is ready for the majors or not, which relegates Jeff Niemann either to the rotation, bullpen, or another team.

That leaves next to no room for Hammel, unless the Rays decide that they were joking with the Cormier deal and like spending extra money to release players. Since Hammel is also out of options this means the Rays should be pursuing trades or alternatives - like swapping Hammel for Rodriguez' rights, although I doubt the White Sox would do so - so they don't simply designated a pitcher of some value to assignment.

The problem with Jason Hammel isn't that he's without value, but rather that he's without value to this team. For whatever reasons, perhaps none at all, Hammel has struggled in relief. He might feel uncomfortable in the bullpen, maybe he put too much pressure on himself, I don't know, but I'm comfortable in saying Hammel's true talent is not below replacement level.

So yeah, I've said Hammel shouldn't be on the 2009 Rays team and I stand by that. I do think that a team like the White Sox, Padres, or even Cardinals could use Hammel as rotation insurance in face of alternatives like Livan Hernandez and Paul Byrd. Hammel won't fetch much in return, but he has value other teams, whether or not they realize it or are willing to send a few dollars in return, well, we'll see.

 

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Brewers should have some interest in him also.

Rays 2009 Slogan: "Come back with your shield or on it"

by PriceMultiCyYoungs on Feb 11, 2009 12:48 PM EST reply actions  

Not likely, since Hammel is out of options.

Our rotation is essentially set at this point, with the signing of Looper.

On a related note, Morlan now will likely not make the ML team out of ST.

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by Jack Moore on Feb 11, 2009 1:37 PM EST up reply actions  

I guess there's an outside chance that we retain him as the long man.

There’s two ways that we have space for Morlan.

1. Swindle doesn’t make the team, and I get very angry
2. Somebody like Riske or Julio doesn’t make the team, and we’ve wasted somewhere between 1M and 3M dollars on a reliever.

And this is assuming we take 8 RPs, which isn’t even guaranteed.

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by Jack Moore on Feb 11, 2009 1:50 PM EST up reply actions  

Injury?

Vogt early, Vogt often.

by Brickhaus on Feb 11, 2009 2:19 PM EST up reply actions  

Right, I figured that was implied in the "doesn't make the team"

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by Jack Moore on Feb 11, 2009 3:45 PM EST up reply actions  

Any chance Hammel starts the year 5th in the rotation.

Big Red in the pen and Price waiting in AAA until we get an extra arb year out of him?

I really believe Price will be in AAA until the end of April. It’s just good business ala Longoria. Then sign him to a long deal for less.

by davelrogers on Feb 11, 2009 2:15 PM EST reply actions  

That means two things

Nieman’ been traded

someone is injured

by Raymondo on Feb 11, 2009 2:17 PM EST up reply actions  

Doubt it

I think it’s much more likely that Niemann would be the 5th starter.

Vogt early, Vogt often.

by Brickhaus on Feb 11, 2009 2:17 PM EST up reply actions  

So much fucking pitching....

Maybe the injuries to some of the guys in AA and AAA are a blessing in disguise, pushing back there MLB readiness a few years. Althought Tommy Johns is a killer.

by davelrogers on Feb 11, 2009 2:20 PM EST up reply actions  

I hate that Tommy Johns

Anyway, as I was lying in the puddle, I think I may have found a way for us to get Bonds and Griffey, and we wouldn't have to give up that much.

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by Sandy Kazmir on Feb 11, 2009 2:48 PM EST up reply actions  

A plethora of reasons

For all we know, Shouse is vacationing in Europe right now.

Vogt early, Vogt often.

by Brickhaus on Feb 11, 2009 2:16 PM EST up reply actions  

grammar nazi here

In the statement about Niemann, I think you mean ‘relegates’, not ‘delegates’.

I agree with just about everything here, except that Derek Rodriguez’s situation plays a factor in this. Barring injuries and trades, he doesn’t make the team, period. He struck guys out at a good clip last year (for the first time in his career), but that’s pretty much the only area where he was above-average. I don’t know why people would expect a 30th pick in a Rule 5 draft to make the roster, especially when 3/4 of Rule 5 picks get returned before the season starts.

Vogt early, Vogt often.

by Brickhaus on Feb 11, 2009 2:16 PM EST reply actions  

Oops, thanks.

Because he throws cool and gets grounders.

by R.J. Anderson on Feb 11, 2009 2:30 PM EST up reply actions  

He doesn't actually get grounders though

Here’s his BD/LD/FB split from last year:

43.1/17.2/.37.7%

(IMO, his .254 BABIP is also unsustainably low with that high of a LD rate.)

The year before he had a high groundball rate, but he also barely struck guys out. It seems pretty obvious that he changed something in his repertoire that caused him to get more strikeouts and fewer ground outs.

Does he get grounders more than Hammel, but that isn’t particularly hard.

Vogt early, Vogt often.

by Brickhaus on Feb 11, 2009 3:18 PM EST up reply actions  

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