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The 2010 Payroll

 

Name $ (Mil)
Burrell 9
Pena 10.3
Kazmir 8
Crawford 10
Iwamura 4.25
Wheeler 3.5
Navarro 2.1
Bartlett 1.9
Shields 1.5
Gross 1.3
Price 1
Longoria 0.95
Upton 0.4
Aybar 0.4
Hammel 0.4
Sonny 0.4
Garza 0.4
Joyce 0.4
Riggans 0.4
Balfour 1.4
Player 0.4
Player 0.4
Player 0.4
Player 0.4
Player 0.4

That's 60 million with...

- A ton of minimum paid players.

- Nobody getting an unstructured raise.

- Assuming Shouse's option isn't picked up for x dollars.

- Assuming Aybar doesn't sign an extension.

- Nobody is re-signed.

ect.

Extremely rough, but what we see is that the minimum payroll threshold will continue to increase as expected. Now, let's just hope the revenue -- especially tickets -- work out in our favor, because damn this team is sexy.

(H/T Joeybw for the idea)

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This is straight scary

Thanks for posting it man

Evan Longoria and David Price - the fight for my heart

by joeybw on Feb 11, 2009 11:10 PM EST reply actions  

Take a picture trick, We spending money bitch.

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by SRQman on Feb 12, 2009 12:44 AM EST reply actions  

To fill out some of the "player"s more

Garza – .4M
Joyce – .4M

Just makes me happier when I look at it.

Navarro will be in ARB-2 and will likely get a raise, even if he has a worse season this year. Same goes for Balfour.

Howell will be in ARB-1 and due for a healthy raise.

So it’s really more like $60 million, assuming nothing else happens, but we also shouldn’t need to go out to the market for much.

Vogt early, Vogt often.

by Brickhaus on Feb 12, 2009 12:56 AM EST reply actions  

Actually the damage is even worse :(

Pena will be our highest paid player next season when he makes 10.125 Mil. Jesus, we better sell a lot of tickets this season.

Evan Longoria and David Price - the fight for my heart

by joeybw on Feb 12, 2009 10:59 AM EST reply actions  

By my read of Cot's

CC’s option could be up to 1.5 MM higher (the triggers aren’t listed), and Aki’s could (and will if he performs up to last 2 years) be another 1 MM.

Price’s will be more like 1.95 – his signing bonus is spread over the contract.

Are you trading Balfour? He’s arb 3 in ‘10, no? Also, Nelson will be an arb 2, not FA, I think. Same for Cormier. And presumably Aybar is in the mix – if he doesn’t extend, he’s arb 1 (S2 this).

How about if you add some marks like !, ^, * for guys in arb years 3, 2, and 1 – that would allow for more reasonable estimates of the true situation. My list of arbs in ’10 by year would be:

3 – Balfour
2 – Bartlett, Navarro, Gross, Nelson, Cormier.
1 – Upton, Aybar (pend ext.), Howell
Likely S2 – Garza, Hammel, Riggans

I recognize there could be non-tenders (Gross, Hammel – if still around – another reliever, are possibilities) and trades, but that’s too assumptive at this point.

12 arbs – yikes!

As always, just getting your back.

by nyyfaninlaaland on Feb 12, 2009 1:59 PM EST reply actions  

Balfour is a FA following this year.

I was really unsure how to deal with Nelson/Cormier’s contracts. I suppose you could throw them in for 650k and 1 mil each, but frankly it seems just as likely that they’re gone than here within a year. Same with Shouse.

by R.J. Anderson on Feb 12, 2009 2:01 PM EST up reply actions  

Why do you think that?

Cot’s has Balfour’s service time at 4 years, 99 days. Those numbers are updated – they have S2 Aybar at 2 and 153 for example. Maybe you know something I or they don’t – but it wouldn’t surprise me if so.

by nyyfaninlaaland on Feb 12, 2009 2:14 PM EST up reply actions  

Okay, here's my mistake:

He was apparently a Super-Two, and prior to the 2006 season Milwaukee re-signed him for more money. In the original spreadsheet I must’ve labeled that as an ARB year, and combine with the Super-Two assumed this was his last arb year.

by R.J. Anderson on Feb 12, 2009 2:25 PM EST up reply actions  

Rec'd

Top Josh Paul Pornos- Big Navi Stroking, 2pitchers1cup, BJ to the Balls, Riggans Your Thingans

by SRQman on Feb 12, 2009 11:14 PM EST up reply actions  

As an addendum

are you assuming Niemann’s departure?

His situation is really odd. In ‘09 he’s in the last year of his 5 year original draft contract, which had $2 MM in total salary (no indication of how apportioned) and a $3.2 MM SB over the length. Just plugging him at at the 5 year salary average – and majors min – plus about 1/5 of SB – let’s say $.65 MM as a round number, he’s at $1.05 in ’09.

But in ‘10 he’ll off that deal. But does that mean he can be renewed near the minimum – he won’t be arb eligible even if in TB all this season – or does the majors rule of no cut of more than 20% cover all that original contract / SB money? If so he’d be around .85 at minimum. I don’t know, and don’t care so much, but it’s one of those funky things you see in this area.

by nyyfaninlaaland on Feb 12, 2009 2:14 PM EST reply actions  

Why not?

That’s how they’re calculated for lux tax – not that that’s an issue.

The way I look at it, and the Rays likely do as well in accounting for the numbers, is how the bonuses are paid. Both Price’s and Niemann’s bonuses are paid across the contract, not upfront, so the money is actually being paid out now. Seems to me at least those types of SB’s should be acounted for across the deal. But is a matter of semantics really, so you’re free to do it as you please, sir.

by nyyfaninlaaland on Feb 12, 2009 2:20 PM EST reply actions  

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