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Brian Shouse Officially Signs With Rays; Juan Salas DFA

We finally have an official deal after almost two weeks of waiting. The deal is for 1 yr worth $1.35 million with an option for 2010 at $1.90 million or a buyout of 200k.  Shouse was worth 0.4 WAR last year or $1.8 million dollars. His overall numbers took a hit because of the way he was used. For some reason, he had more PA's vs. right handed batters (108) than left handed batters(104). That is bullpen mismanagement 101 and part of the reason Ned Yost is no longer a manager.

To make room for Shouse, The Rays have DFA'd Juan Salas, who probably will be picked up by another team. Salas had excellent minor league numbers, but never translated them into major league sucess. He pitched in a career high 34 games in 2007 and while his ERA was 3.72, his FIP was 6.13. Good luck to the Juice

Star-divide

For the Rays, Shouse is an upgrade over Trever Miller, who served as the team's loogy last year. Shouse at $1.35 million is below market value and also cheaper than Miller, who received a 1yr/~2 million dollar deal with the Cardinals this off season. Here is a breakdown of their numbers vs LHB.

2008 BAA OBP  SLG
Shouse 0.180 0.196 0.290
Miller 0.209 0.327 0.382

Career BAA OBP  SLG
Shouse 0.212 0.264 0.325
Miller 0.235 0.327 0.382

Shouse is pretty much death to a left handed batter, so should see plenty of David Ortiz this year. He also joins Troy Percival as the old men on the young Rays team. In fact when camp opens, they will be playing along side Tim Beckham, who was just six months old when they were drafted in 1990

Here is our original post on the signing and welcome to the Rays Mr. Shouse

And here is Salas' DRB2009 profile:

Juan Salas RHP

Salas has had much success in the minor leagues, but that hasn't yet translated to the majors.  He dominated AA and AAA in 2006 with K/9 rates of 13.50 and 10.36 before getting called up and throwing 10 innings for the big club.  Salas threw most of his 2007 innings in the majors, racking up a 3.72 ERA but an ugly 6.13 FIP and low 6.44 K/9. His 2008 season was marred by visa problems that saw him miss a chunk of the start of the season, and a bout with epileptic seizures.  He did throw 44.2IP in AAA with a 2.62 ERA and 2.28 FIP while maintaining a K/9 of over 10(10.68), but never really got a shot with at the major league level throwing just 6.1 innings. 

 

 

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Someone will pick him up

He just needs to get his weight down and get some more time in the majors and he’ll be fine; he’s not even a full-season into his service time. I’m disappointed to see him being DFA’d but the Rays have plenty of decent-looking relievers already.

by kericr on Feb 12, 2009 6:50 PM EST reply actions  

Same.

I rather have Salas than Johnson, but now the pen is less crowded.

by Tommy Rancel on Feb 12, 2009 6:51 PM EST up reply actions  

Great news on Shouse

I’m disappointed to see Salas go though.

by Lurch's Lobbyists on Feb 12, 2009 6:55 PM EST reply actions  

Hard to believe Salas has been around since 1998.

This is the exact type of arm a team should take a chance on. No, his strikeouts didn’t translate in 2007, but the guy has killed the minors. A team like the Pirates or Marlins will scoop him up.

Oh well. I suppose we had too many 40-man slots locked up to pitchers as is.

by R.J. Anderson on Feb 12, 2009 7:03 PM EST reply actions  

Hope soooo much ...

… that Chad breaks out this year!

By the way: A shame that we didn’t take a chance on Salas!

by BurGi on Feb 12, 2009 7:49 PM EST up reply actions  

C'mon Marlins.

Time to replenish that ex-Ray stockpile.

by RATW on Feb 12, 2009 7:29 PM EST up reply actions  

I would have rather waived Houser or Johnson

But c’est la vie. Maybe the team knows something about him we don’t. Or maybe they just figured that he’s so old at this point that he will be past his peak by the time he gets his shot here.

Vogt early, Vogt often.

by Brickhaus on Feb 12, 2009 7:21 PM EST reply actions  

I'm assuming either that

or that his fastball has lost some movement. Or that he’s been a bad influence in Durham. There’s something though.

Vogt early, Vogt often.

by Brickhaus on Feb 12, 2009 7:29 PM EST up reply actions  

Between Salas and Orvella

So many “closers of the future” that have disappointed at the ML level. I still contend that Maddon is the reason Orvella sucks now, but that’s a story for another time.

I know many on here loved Salas, but he just wasn’t impressive at all in his time in the majors. His fastball velocity, either through no longer using ’roids or whatever the reason, was not nearly what it was cracked up to be in the minors and his control was far too inconsistent.

Hello.

by killa3312 on Feb 12, 2009 8:09 PM EST reply actions  

closers of the future are as real as the Loch Ness Monster

If you want to see tomorrow’s closer, look at today’s starting rotation in A ball

by Jason Collette on Feb 12, 2009 8:15 PM EST up reply actions  

Please, only against lefties, Maddon

use him right and watch him make hitters look stupid.

Evan Longoria and David Price - the fight for my heart

by joeybw on Feb 12, 2009 8:16 PM EST reply actions  

Look at it this way

We lose Salas but probably get Morlan back

by Raymondo on Feb 12, 2009 9:24 PM EST up reply actions  

I meant the cheater comment.

We can do w/o throwing players (especially former Rays) under the bus. He did his time, let it go.

by rglass44 on Feb 12, 2009 10:03 PM EST up reply actions  

I refuse to compromise my position

on the roids issue simply because a player may have played or is playing for the rays. They ALL need to be exterminated from baseball. Hopefully that is not a problem here.

And btw, is it merely coincidence that his numbers never returned after his suspension?

by Raymondo on Feb 13, 2009 7:25 AM EST up reply actions  

That's fine, if you want the quality of the game to suffer.

More people use/used than we’ll ever know, kicking each out leaves us with a bunch of fringe and replacement level players. Actually, they may have used too, 400k for one season on the bench would have me shooting whatever necessary.

by R.J. Anderson on Feb 13, 2009 9:22 AM EST up reply actions  

I'm aiming it at those

who now test positive

In Salas’ case, i agree with you, something shady in his medical, that may or may not have to do with roids

by Raymondo on Feb 13, 2009 10:41 AM EST up reply actions  

Yes

hear Andrew on Ron and Ian?
A five year old could ask better questions

by Raymondo on Feb 13, 2009 10:55 AM EST up reply actions  

Odd

Asserting pugnacious stubbornness in the face of information and rational argument that contradict your position seems an oddly perverse strategy for advertising oneself or making one’s position seem credible.

by bobr on Feb 13, 2009 9:48 AM EST up reply actions  

I can tolerate him.

If he doesn’t pitch through an obvious injury, I’m not going to berate him for attempting it, but the moment he’s limping in between pitches and has zero control over anything? That’s when I’m going to be irritated. Obviously I’m not thrilled paying him 4 million given our current roster construction, but it would be revisionist’s history to say I was against the signing from the beginning.

by R.J. Anderson on Feb 13, 2009 9:32 AM EST up reply actions  

This.

He was fairly good before the first DL stint. He should never pitch on back-to-back days and any sign of fatigue/injury should be a one way ticket to the DL.

by rglass44 on Feb 13, 2009 10:18 AM EST up reply actions  

Exactly my thinking.

I thought it was a good signing at the time, one with more risks than usual, but given the Rays situation very reasonable. And when he was healthy, he pitched very well. The problem was, of course, health, and apparently a stubbornness of trying to pitch through injuries rather than admitting he was hurting the team.

If he is healthy, and that is admittedly a huge IF, Percival can be a very useful reliever. I do not want to see him on the DL; I want to see him in the bullpen where he can earn his salary. It will up to Maddon to assess whether he can do that.

by bobr on Feb 13, 2009 12:15 PM EST up reply actions  

So lets see

Bradford on the DL and I still think Percy will join him at first

Brian Shouse
Joe Nelson
Jeff Niemann
Dan Wheeler
J.P Howell
Grant Balfour

So lets assume Price makes the rotation and we give Cormier the final spot. Can we find a trade for Hammel out of no where or just cut him? Also…..please send some cash to the Sox, I like Derek Rodriguez

Evan Longoria and David Price - the fight for my heart

by joeybw on Feb 13, 2009 10:34 AM EST reply actions  

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