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Wade Davis Does Well in Spring Start Versus New York Yankees

For many, myself included, this was the first exposure to Wade Davis, and boy, he sure failed to disappoint. Much like David Price last spring, Davis made his spring debut against the New York Yankees. Price would enter the game in relief and strike out such wunderkinds as Jason Lane, Wilson Betemit, and Shelley Duncan, leaving Rays fans in awe of his stuff and immediate results. If the three Price faced were simply junk food, then Wade Davis' menu was full of the finest cuisine in town.

Star-divide

Following a nice grab by Morgan Ensberg and routine play by Ben Zobrist, Davis would go face-to-face with Mark Teixeira and Alex Rodriguez. Davis would retire Teixeira on a swinging strikeout to end the first inning before sending Alex Rodriguez to a similar fate in the second. Davis would record one more K during his two innings of pitching while allowing zero baserunners.

The outing is going to receive more hype than it should - like people calling for Davis to start the season in the major league rotation, or people making conclusions on his readiness based on six batters faced -- but that's because Davis was so impressive. Yes, it appeared he was mostly throwing fastballs, and no, there's no way of knowing whether the Yankee hitters were taking this game seriously, but for those six batters, Wade Davis was phenomenal.

Performances like Davis' outing are one of the few things that make spring training worth paying attention to. There's no division races or draft status to worry about right now, and perhaps that makes the games more fun, only unbridled enthusiasm for success met with little concern for negative results.

Davis was good today. Real good. Just don't take it out of context. .

Other observations from today's game:

- Ensberg looked decent defensively.

- Chad Orvella froze Johnny Damon like his bank account.

- Durham's offense is going to need that ballpark to score runs.

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Anyone get a decent read on Davis' stuff?

I realize there wasn’t a gun there, but I’d like to hear if he tested out that new slider, or he was only throwing four-seamers (since he really has three fastballs – the four seamer, the two seamer he experimented with in Durham and the cutter).

Vogt early, Vogt often.

by Brickhaus on Feb 26, 2009 5:30 PM EST reply actions  

YES had a radar gun

They had Davis in the low-90’s, the highest I saw was 94, which he hit a few times. Looked to me like he only threw 4-seamers and the curve(which was around 80-82).

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by Imperialism32 on Feb 26, 2009 6:29 PM EST up reply actions  

And the gun had him hit 95 once

(my first comment was about the first inning)

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by Imperialism32 on Feb 26, 2009 6:35 PM EST up reply actions  

3 fastballs reminds me of Halladay

That deuce he throws is pretty sick too, 2010 is going to be ridiculous

Why yes, I am this big of an asshole in person.

by Sandy Kazmir on Feb 27, 2009 10:27 AM EST up reply actions  

Last year was Price, this year it's Davis, next year should be Hellickson

Keep that train rolling!

Evan Longoria and David Price - the fight for my heart

by joeybw on Feb 26, 2009 5:39 PM EST reply actions  

Observation

While Wade was mostly spotting fastballs, he used his big curve to great effect. From my perspective (which was up the 3rd base line) it had big break and was getting taken for a strike- including A-rod’s ab. He looks promising- lets not get carried away, but its nice to see.

by Thejeffg on Feb 26, 2009 5:40 PM EST reply actions  

At least the guys that need to do well are doing well

Orvella still is a mountain of suck, though

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by JMB on Feb 26, 2009 5:52 PM EST reply actions  

His first pitch sucked

The rest looked not too bad though.

I could be wrong though

by staplemaniac on Feb 26, 2009 8:46 PM EST up reply actions  

I saw Davis last year in Durham

and he definitely has good stuff and an electric heater but I don’t see anyway he makes the roster out of Spring Training. The earliest he gets the call pending a huge run on injuries (knock on wood) is Sep. He only had 9 starts in Durham and there is no need to rush him.

as far as Durham is concerned with Davis, Price, Hernandez, and Talbot most likely starting the season there I’m not sure they will need to score many runs.

by Dbullsfan on Feb 26, 2009 5:53 PM EST reply actions  

Davis. He's a Florida boy.

Hughes has been rushed and it has really hurt his development. The Yankees just dont know how to treat young pitchers which is too bad (for them) because Hughes has great stuff. he will probably end up like Edwin Jackson though.
Davis will have another full year in the minors to improve his command and when he finally gets called up he will be in a position to succeed.

by Devil Ray on Feb 26, 2009 6:17 PM EST up reply actions  

Sorry, but you're just off here

Hughes hasn’t been rushed. He had leapt over every hurdle without a hitch up to reaching the majors in 2007. From his debut in 2004 he never had a WHIP over 1.00, a K/9 less than 8.8, or BB/9 over 2.6. When someone’s that dominant you should sit on him?

Than in his MLB debut in ‘07 he was working on a no-hitter when he pulled a hammy. But returned to finish with an ERA of 4.46, WHIP of 1.28, K/9 of 7.2 in over 70 IP, including starting through a playoff drive in Sept. in NY at age 21. Then got NY’s only postseason win in relief.

After that I suppose you think he should heve been sent back to AAA? So he starts last year, poorly, finds a broken rib, and it’s back to rehab.

I don’t have a problem if you choose Davis over him – that’s your choice, but their respective stats wouldn’t bear that out. My point is that rushing isn’t the issue – he’s had some unfortunate, non-arm injuries that color the picture.

by nyyfaninlaaland on Feb 27, 2009 1:44 AM EST up reply actions  

Hickey says he put himself in the running for 5th starter

Though that might just be blowing smoke up his ass.

Vogt early, Vogt often.

by Brickhaus on Feb 26, 2009 6:29 PM EST reply actions  

If Niemann in the pen seems to be working

and Davis dominates, I’d rather see Wade than Jason Hammel.

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by Imperialism32 on Feb 26, 2009 6:31 PM EST up reply actions  

So Davis vs Price vs Niemann vs Talbot vs Hammel

As long as Hammel doesn’t win, the #5 guy will be very exciting to watch

Evan Longoria and David Price - the fight for my heart

by joeybw on Feb 26, 2009 6:31 PM EST up reply actions  

My opinion has not changed because of Davis looking good against 6 batters

Of the 5 that are “competiting for the #5 spot” I only give 2 a chance

Jason Hammel – Cut, Traded or if he’s lucky, RP
Jeff Niemann – Has a shot at the rotation but Maddon likes him as a late inning RP
Mitch Talbot – Has options and continues to unimpress, AAA bound
Wade Davis – Maybe a mid season call up but I know the Rays and he will get more AAA time
David Price – Still think he wins, all he needs to do is keep throwing his change up.

5 guys and here I was thinking Rays only had 1 guy(Price) in mind when they traded Edwin

Evan Longoria and David Price - the fight for my heart

by joeybw on Feb 26, 2009 7:14 PM EST reply actions  

I guess Carlos Hernandez is not a likely option?

Because he is not on the 40, does this guy get traded or will he be exposed soon enough?

by raysrule44 on Feb 26, 2009 7:30 PM EST reply actions  

do we still have Jeremy Cummings in the system?

just trying to figure out who would be the #5 in Durham (assuming Hell Boy is in AA)

Price
Davis
Talbot
Hernandez
??

by Dbullsfan on Feb 26, 2009 7:59 PM EST up reply actions  

Mason

Vogt early, Vogt often.

by Brickhaus on Feb 26, 2009 8:02 PM EST up reply actions  

I forgot about Houser

towards the end of last season they moved Mason to the pen, I assume he will stay there this year.

by Dbullsfan on Feb 26, 2009 8:06 PM EST up reply actions  

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