3/3/09 Game Day Thread: Astros @ Rays
by Tommy Rancel on Mar 3, 2009 11:16 AM EST
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Lineup:
Jason Bartlett SS
Carl Crawford LF
Ben Zobrist 1B
Pat Burrell DH
Gabe Kapler RF
Dioner Navarro C
Adam Kennedy 3B
Ray Sadler CF
Reid Brignac 2B
Jeff Niemann P
Other pitchers scheduled: LH Brian Shouse, RH Jason Childers, RH Dewon Day, RH Neal Frontz, RH Derek Rodriguez
To Watch: Jeff Niemann makes his second start of the spring. Realistically, the competition for the fifth starter is Niemann, Price and Hammel. Price has yet to throw and Hammel has been excellent. Niemann has to be good today.
The Rays lineup basically features four middle infielders with Ben Zobrist playing 1B and Adam Kennedy playing 3B. Not quite the corner infielders you would expect, but Kennedy and Zobrist are competing for utility positions. Neither player has played the position in a Major League regular season game. Reid Brignac gets the start at second base.
Also interested in seeing how Derek Rodriguez fares in this one.
Joe Maddon says he does not expect Matt Joyce to be ready to play by Friday.
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Also the Astros lineup is WONDERFUL today
Michael Bourn CF
Edwin Maysonet SS
Darin Erstad RF
Jason Michaels LF
David Newhan DH
Chris Johnson 3B
Jason Smith 2B
Mark Saccomanno 1B
J.R. Towles C
And the man who R.J. calls the most underrated starter in the game, former Ray, Brandon Backe starting.
I wonder when Price will pitch
And is it me or is Gross never playing? It seems like he hasn’t played much more than Joyce….
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oh he will be in there
Cal Ripken of Spring, he wont miss a game
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Hey, at least our best hitter isn't Michael Bourn
god, that lineup is hideous
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Towely should be a good one
Maybe not as obvious since he’s a catcher so he won’t have to be a superstar to be great.
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by Sandy Kazmir on Mar 3, 2009 11:47 AM EST up reply actions
I wonder if Jaso has a chance
If he winds up with a great spring and Riggans fails hard, I wonder if he has any shot at being the backup C
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I'd say probably not.
The only chance I think Jaso has involves Riggans getting hurt.
I don’t think Riggans has any options, but I can’t be sure of shit anymore.
Jaso only played 31 games in AAA.
Im sure the Rays want him playing everyday and working on his defense instead of playing once a week in the Majors. If Something happens to Riggans, Michel Hernandez would get the nod before Jaso at least early on.
by Tommy Rancel on Mar 3, 2009 11:56 AM EST up reply actions
I like our pitching today
Lets not have a weak link today
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I guess it is about time I change my name
Any chance I can do that without losing all my stuff? Also, would I still be banned from any of the blogs where that may be the case?
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by Sandy Kazmir on Mar 3, 2009 12:03 PM EST up reply actions
Awesome
Those over the monster guys can be so sensitive sometimes
that and Jan Brady over here giving me warnings
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by Sandy Kazmir on Mar 3, 2009 12:10 PM EST up reply actions
The Show just came
Despite Pedroia being on the front, it is a beautiful sight
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What?
A game that rips of a plot from every other form of popular culture? A game where it can take 15 minutes to find a game online? What a game that is unbalanced online and had many glitches before?
Swav or Die.
hmmm
Blu-Ray = Check
Browser = Check
FREE ONLINE GAMING= check
Built in Wi-fi= check
You can get a PS3 for 400 dollars on Amazon.com
You can get a 360 for 400 dollars on Amazon.com except it doesn’t come with all I said above so if you going to buy the wireless adapter ($80.00) and Xbox Live ($50 for a year) You are actually going to spend more.
Swav or Die.
I'm not seriously debating a comparison between the 360 and PS3 with anyone.
It’s been done a million times before, it’ll be done a million times again, and it will only stop when the next generation of consoles appear, where it will be picked up anew.
Don’t waste your time on this.
Played it, regretted it
It’s only good if you’re playing with four people you know. Single player campaign is lame, multiplayer with strangers is lame.
Really.
Online the computer players are mostly better than the real players but then again the real players usually sucked.
Swav or Die.
Whoa whoa whoa
As a L4D afficianado I will say that the AI blows hard, and VS mode online is hella fun.
I could be wrong though
They just piss me off when I am a Zombie
because they always come to save the human I get.
Swav or Die.
But they also sit in retarded spots and get murdered
because they don’t appreciate the value of spamming the melee button
I could be wrong though
But you know what they suck at so you can work at making it ok.
Just stand in a corner and have one dude melee in front of you crouching while you shoot to cover the CPU’s
Swav or Die.
Have you played since the update?
They really balanced it out. Smokers are no longer useless.
Swav or Die.
No....I have all systems
it’s just fun to pick the other side (if you Kericr said PS3 I would have said XBOX360 is greater)
Swav or Die.
I still play COD 4 everyday and have worked NHL 09 into the rotation
Who cares about new shinies when you’ve got platium
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by Sandy Kazmir on Mar 3, 2009 12:33 PM EST up reply actions
I was at Publix last night killing some time and wandered into the zine section
Freaking amazing how many covers I saw with either Longo or some other Ray.
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It's not all that interesting, I just messed up.
I added a note to the original post:
http://www.draysbay.com/2009/3/3/778454/evan-longoria-likely-had-t
by R.J. Anderson on Mar 3, 2009 12:17 PM EST up reply actions
What? He's fine.
It was my mistake. He’s linked to my work plenty of times for better reasons.
by R.J. Anderson on Mar 3, 2009 12:29 PM EST up reply actions
At least he supplied reasons
It gave the site a plug, it gave him a decent article, and most importantly it got a respected figure to talk Rays Baseball
Winner, winner
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by Sandy Kazmir on Mar 3, 2009 12:34 PM EST up reply actions
takes one to kn ah fuck it
your mother’s an astronaut
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by Sandy Kazmir on Mar 3, 2009 12:38 PM EST up reply actions
Yes, "22-year-old third basemen" = "rookie" ... well, supposedly rookie third baseman.
by R.J. Anderson on Mar 3, 2009 12:31 PM EST up reply actions
The first one I linked was exactly what you did.
The second was where I limited by age.
The first was RC/27 league adjusted, and the second one was wOBA.
Sorry, I forgot you were even a staff member.
Why don’t you give me a reason to remember?
by R.J. Anderson on Mar 3, 2009 12:37 PM EST up reply actions
Did you not get my "Hiatus" e-mail?
I’ll be back once I have a computer w/ Excel. You don’t wanna see posts where I don’t use Excel do you?
open office sucks
it is not a suitable replacement when the rest of the world uses monopoly, or rather excel, you can’t even upload to google docs
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by Sandy Kazmir on Mar 3, 2009 12:40 PM EST up reply actions
Does it do the things Excel does?
I have Works SS which sucks. Can I have multiple sheets, do Vlookups, text-to-columns, pivottables, etc?
It is essentially the same, but it doesn't share well
You can work on stuff on there and then copy, paste into excel later with slight formatting errors but nothing major, it is probably your best recourse, because Works is inappropriately named
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by Sandy Kazmir on Mar 3, 2009 12:44 PM EST up reply actions
Very inappropraitely named...
Hmmm… I’ll check it out, but I assume when I buy a new laptop I’ll need to get excel.
Have you not heard of these things called torrents?
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by Sandy Kazmir on Mar 3, 2009 12:47 PM EST up reply actions
Please tell me you were in that Best Buy commercial...
the guy that goes to the house and installs the T.V.
Swav or Die.
I read you
wink wink
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by Sandy Kazmir on Mar 3, 2009 12:48 PM EST up reply actions
It can do those things, obviously the menus and such are different so doing so is different.
But Sandy brought up a good point; you can’t sync it with google docs. In addition, if you’re using statistical package add-ons for excel, those probably won’t work with calc. I don’t know if there are any equivelents. I use excel myself.
Given previous data, this seems unlikely.
by R.J. Anderson on Mar 3, 2009 12:42 PM EST up reply actions
rolling around in a computer chair does not count as walking
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by Sandy Kazmir on Mar 3, 2009 12:42 PM EST up reply actions
You just got Neyer'd
dawg
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by Sandy Kazmir on Mar 3, 2009 12:22 PM EST up reply actions
Odds on Brignac getting a hit today?
I want Baldelli to be healthy enough to play in 150 games, I just hope he sucks. Like Greg Vaughn suck.
What's the Powerball odds at?
I think those are better
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by Sandy Kazmir on Mar 3, 2009 12:22 PM EST up reply actions
He has as many hits as Brignac at the ML level
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by Sandy Kazmir on Mar 3, 2009 12:35 PM EST up reply actions
he eats babies for their stem cells
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by Sandy Kazmir on Mar 3, 2009 12:39 PM EST up reply actions
I'll bet you a dollar he doesn't get a hit and 5 that he doesn't get an xbh
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by Sandy Kazmir on Mar 3, 2009 12:41 PM EST up reply actions
Setbacks will be the death of me
OF Matt Joyce said he had a setback this morning with his strained right calf, another frustrating hurdle in him getting onto the field for the first time since getting acquired in the offseason in the Edwin Jackson trade.
Joyce had said a few days ago he was feeling great, and yesterday about “90 percent.” But when he came in this morning, it hurt a little more, and manager Joe Maddon said he won’t be playing Friday, as Joyce earlier predicted.
Looks like he was just about ready and now hes hurting again
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clock doesn't roll in ST AB's
He just had a frustrating set back and who knows when we will see him
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I have no closer in my big keeper league draft. it's the 11th round, I don't pick again til the 14th
and 21 closers have been picked… do I panic, y/n?
n
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by Sandy Kazmir on Mar 3, 2009 12:45 PM EST up reply actions
under
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by Sandy Kazmir on Mar 3, 2009 12:50 PM EST up reply actions
Just trade with the guy that went keeper krazy and then supplement
with guys that will step in for injuries later on, also Huston Street ftmfw
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by Sandy Kazmir on Mar 3, 2009 12:46 PM EST up reply actions
No
Just take like 3-4 RPs that k a lot of guys and seem to be next in line when a closer is ineffective hurt.
yeah i will probably end up doing some of this
but holds count in this league… so odds are that several other guys are looking at the best holds/possible closers too
No
Just punt on saves, get another player who qualifies as a closer but tends to do better in other statistics.
Vogt early, Vogt often.
i would, but I should've mentioned its a roto league
my team is mostly young… but I do have Chipper and Cliff Lee… I could compete this year… its a 20-team league.
Chad Qualls and Street are still available… after them it gets ugly…
between those two
You could be decent at saves and just trade if need be. I wouldn’t reach for them (especially not Street who terrifies me).
I am trying to trade up to get Qualls
I could’ve taken him a few picks ago… but Kelly Shoppach was sitting there staring at me, and I didn’t yet have a catcher either…
I went for SP and young OF and stud bats right away… now I’m without SS, 2B, and RP. and there are 50 picks before I get another one. its ok though… my farm kicks ass. Beckham, Porcello, L Morrison, DJ, Dominic Brown, Weglarz, Matt Moore, Jefry Marte, etc… we count OBP in addition to the usual 5 cats… so I loaded up on good disciplined minor league bats [except for briggy, lol]
Why is the audio the astro guys?
We are the home team!
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Man the A's are going to get Nomar to a nice deal
Can they possibly do any wrong, I wanted to bring him in to DH pre-Pat, and I think this is a fantastic deal
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And they got O-Cab
You really have to like what BLB has been up to this year
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by Sandy Kazmir on Mar 3, 2009 12:55 PM EST up reply actions
He could be horizontal in a coffin and put up 1 win
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by Sandy Kazmir on Mar 3, 2009 12:59 PM EST up reply actions
So when the game starts
It will be exactly 33 days til Opening Day, slowly but surely……..
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Can we just put Zobrist on the Astro's bus after this game?
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here
http://mlb.mlb.com/mlb/gameday/index.jsp?gid=2009_03_03_houmlb_tbamlb_1
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at some angles
in his ‘nba cares’ commercial… when he is face down on the ground and looks up and smiles he looks very chappelle
1 hit, no runs
Bourn infield hit
K to that guy batting 2nd
fly out to whoever is batting 3rd
Bourn steals
Jason Michael K’s
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Sounds like Erstad put a charge into it but Kapler got it at the wall
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Per the Heater.
11:47 a.m. OF Matt Joyce said he had a setback this morning with his strained right calf, another frustrating hurdle in him getting onto the field for the first time since getting acquired in the offseason in the Edwin Jackson trade.
Joyce had said a few days ago he was feeling great, and yesterday about “90 percent.” But when he came in this morning, it hurt a little more, and manager Joe Maddon said he won’t be playing Friday, as Joyce earlier predicted.
Blah.
Eduardo Morlan = God.
Why would any pitcher offer anything close to a strike to Craw
first pitch
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omg Zobrist is on base
of course not on a hit, throwing error
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wtf Zobrist K'd?
They just said he was on 1st
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In gainesville
Is there ANY WAY TO GET LIVE SOUND FOR THIS GAME without paying?
I could be wrong though
So Venzuela is scoring off Willis in the first
and they are still up
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Anyone know?
I can’t get 620 at work. For some odd reason, it doesn’t come in. Anyway, I have the “IHeartRadio” application on my iTouch. Anyone know if the games will actually work once the season starts?
Drew
Eduardo Morlan = God.
2 outs
Diving play by Brignac
Niemann K’s Chris Johnson
set Jason Smith down, now
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I just don't like SP's moving to the pen or other way around mid season
And Price WILL be up, it’s just a matter of when. Plus Friedman and Maddon are in love with Niemann as a RP
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I think that he would be better than Sonny over the course of a full season
I really do
I could be wrong though
Niemann's mechanics
Haven’t there been a couple articles floating around in the blogosphere that Jeffy’s arm action and delivery but him at particular risk for elbow trouble?
Possibly this is another good reason for him to be in the pen. Even if he would be better than Sonny now, Davis would be calling on that spot next year, all things being equal.
by Lurch's Lobbyists on Mar 3, 2009 1:45 PM EST up reply actions
I don't have a problem with that
Because I agree about Davis, think he’s better, but make Niemann a SP this year and convert him next year or trade him. If he has a fantastic season then we could get some real value for him as a SP. RP? not so much value
I could be wrong though
I don't think it's his arm action as much as his injury history
that makes it more likely that he’ll have injury problems in the future.
Vogt early, Vogt often.
Not that I'm a biomechanical engineer or whatever
But this guy sounds like he know what he’s talking about.
I could be wrong though
Like I said I don't know anything about it
So, Niemann’s mechanics aren’t bad?
I could be wrong though
I'm not in a position to say either way.
I don’t know enough about biomechanics and don’t intend to.
My word of advice is be extremely weary of people who say “Player X’s swing looks awful/beautiful” or ‘Player X’s delivery is injury proof/injury waiting to happen."
Generally speaking, they probably don’t know what the fuck they’re talking about.
And that’s not to hate on DrivelineMechanics. I don’t know enough about Boddy to say either way. I know he dabbles with Marshall’s teachings and that’s about it.
by R.J. Anderson on Mar 3, 2009 3:20 PM EST up reply actions
I'm getting a bit of a stutter. Like Ronald Reagan in Back to the Future 2.
B-B-B-Beans of pork…
by ReasonableDoubt on Mar 3, 2009 1:41 PM EST up reply actions
At this point, I'd like to make a note to the Rays
We care about the team. Please work on getting us easier access to the spring training games. We want to watch. We want to listen. Other teams have this access, and it was excusable when the team played at Al Lang. Most of us can’t drive to Port Charlotte though.
nobody on 2 outs
Don’t know how he got them out though.
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ugh, Bourn walked and just got another steal
He is annoying
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Kennedy was picked up for his D right?
Well, he let one get past him 1-0 Astros
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I don't know the number but he hasn't been working hard at all
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Congratulations
wanna go double or nothing he gets a hit tomorrow?
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MVB:(
long homer for Reid..
'talkin 'bout practice?
by CubFanRaysaddict on Mar 3, 2009 1:52 PM EST reply actions
can Zobrist be useful?
A question I will ask many times this season
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bases loaded 0 outs for Burrell
come on, Pat, you know you want it
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Pat carrying on Pena's bases load BB trend from last year..
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by CubFanRaysaddict on Mar 3, 2009 2:03 PM EST reply actions
What'd he end up with like 16 bases loaded walks
I don’t think that’s repeatable
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Wow this guy has thrown 7 balls and 0 strikes
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use the Boggs connection to get him
a lifetime supply of Miller Lites, play for that
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I think him and whoever faces this guy
should make him throw 2 straight strikes
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no ER's for that pitcher either
LOL
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by CubFanRaysaddict on Mar 3, 2009 2:09 PM EST reply actions
Brignac K
its ok, someone had to be out eventually
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i guess everyone is getting this from the audio?
mlb box score and gameday are not working for me.
Briggy hit a HR his first time up?
Barty rbi single
he has 3 hits and Rays are up 8-1
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If only...
If Bartlett came close to matching his #s from 2006 I would be quite happy.
by Lurch's Lobbyists on Mar 3, 2009 2:22 PM EST up reply actions
CC would have walked
but he still is CC, no matter how good of shape he is in
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Niemann is probably pretty damn rusty right now
Zobrist double 10-1
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I think David Faustino is in
You know the guy from Married with children
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Bud Bundy/ Grandmaster B...
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by CubFanRaysaddict on Mar 3, 2009 2:27 PM EST up reply actions
So do we play the Reds this year?
I don’t want us getting attacked by Gomes
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NOOOOOOO the inning is over!!!
Bring in D-Rod
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PA Announcer
“How bout those Rays, they scored a touchdown and a field goal”
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by CubFanRaysaddict on Mar 3, 2009 2:29 PM EST reply actions
That was fun
but now I am gonna watch Die Hard and see people that aren’t Astros get killed
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no, kericr
what happened is the Bucs released Percival, Bradford, Gross, Trevor Miller, & Aki. No one the Bucs released were young, too productive anymore, or fit the new(er) D-system(June).
R.J.
I think Geno Hayes or Quincy Black can put up the 75 tackles that Crowell does, @ a much cheaper price.
plus you gotta placate us noles..
Give Geno a chance…
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by CubFanRaysaddict on Mar 3, 2009 2:47 PM EST up reply actions
11-1
Zobie just hit a soft liner to ss, that should be his nickname
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but he's an offensive machine!!
RAYS BASEBALL: ALL YOUR BASES ARE BELONG TO US
by JMB on Mar 3, 2009 3:07 PM EST up reply actions
Dewon Day is in as well as Jaso at catcher
Nando is in Left, Helliot at 2b and Richard at 1b
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Futher proof that yes, we are that awesome
Don’t tell ESPN though
RAYS BASEBALL: ALL YOUR BASES ARE BELONG TO US
by JMB on Mar 3, 2009 3:10 PM EST up reply actions
How awesome is this line
and in the end, the true measure of one’s viewing experience is the ratio of time spent hearing the announcers speak to time spent hearing yourself breathe while you stare fixedly at the screen with your chin in your hands. I rubbed my thumbs raw with my stubble.
http://www.lookoutlanding.com/2009/3/2/778417/the-seattle-mariners-win-t
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Does this guy have a name yet?
He always reminds me of my friend Johnny in about 25 years
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So do you have to pay royalties when you steal their meme's?
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It's not stealing if we credit them non-stop.
Plus: Fiddle Cats and Furries.
by R.J. Anderson on Mar 3, 2009 3:30 PM EST up reply actions
If I were new to the site I would think Fiddle Cat is owned and operated by a crazed, escaped convict
Why would another blog want to mess with that?
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They have Robert, anything in comparison is quite normal.
by R.J. Anderson on Mar 3, 2009 3:34 PM EST up reply actions
I can't wait for this weekend
All our starters finally start pitching, Pena makes his debut, maybe Joyce can get healthy by the end of the week also. Then it will just be waiting on Upton and the fight for the #5 spot. Price needs his chance!
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Holy cow THE Danny Graves
I heard he was playing in Columbia
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Did Brignac seriously get a hit or mlb.com just joshing me?
Brad Ziegler had a scoreless inning streak. Brad Ziegler had not met BJ Upton.
Unfortunately his bat fell over the plate at the right time and the ball flew out of the park
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Probably not, I think it was like his 27th
Brad Ziegler had a scoreless inning streak. Brad Ziegler had not met BJ Upton.
so if the rays trade Bartlett for good value
and Briggy hits .150/.250/.400 with 20 HRs and above average glovework… anyone gonna mind?
Yeah kind of an odd slash line.
Now give me .250/.350/.400 and your talking.
That slashline doesn't look Brignacian
Would end up more like .250/.280/.420 if he gets a batting average that high.
If anyone hits below .200, people are going to mind, whether or not it’s justified. If he ended at .190/.400/.600 with Ozzie Smith’s glove, the radio personalities would still be calling for Maddon’s head if he kept playing him, solely because he’s below the Mendoza line.
Vogt early, Vogt often.
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