Hot Streaks & Home Runs; A Look At The Other Side Of The Rays Hitters
The regression thing that we're constantly talking about works both ways. Yesterday, I looked at the "unluckly" players, or players that should regress upwards. Today, thanks to the idea from nyyfaninlaaland, we're going to at the opposite. We all know we've had some batters on the team hit way above career norms: Jason Bartlett, Ben Zobrist and even Evan Longoria come to mind. We also know that while they won't turn into pumpkins over the next few weeks, their incredible starts are a little too incredible to sustain over the course of the season.
The Rays have five players who are doing well with the stick: I think we can all agree that Jason Bartlett, Ben Zobrist, Evan Longoria, along with Carlos Pena and Akinori Iwamura have all lived up to or exceeded expectations. Here are their numbers on the season along with BABIP and career BABIP.
|
Player |
AVG |
OBP |
SLG |
BABIP |
C.BABIP |
DIF. |
|
Bartlett |
0.429 |
0.478 |
0.643 |
0.457 |
0.322 |
0.135 |
|
Longoria |
0.391 |
0.417 |
0.826 |
0.419 |
0.318 |
0.101 |
|
Pena |
0.28 |
0.357 |
0.68 |
0.267 |
0.298 |
-0.031 |
|
Iwamura |
0.308 |
0.388 |
0.419 |
0.406 |
0.35 |
0.056 |
|
Zobrist |
0.308 |
0.333 |
0.731 |
0.357 |
0.244 |
0.113 |
Not surprising, but four of those players are playing a little above their heads in terms of BABIP. Bartlett, Zobrist and Longoria are hitting extremely well. Bartlett has seen his numbers rise across the board and has been the biggest beneficiary of a kind BABIP. Like Bartlett, Zobrist has been a very lucky fellow so far with a BABIP that is over .100 points higher than his norm. In terms of Longoria, we don't have a real "career" BABIP to compare. His BABIP in 2008 was .318, but that's all we have. Maybe he was unlucky in 2008 and his BABIP should actually have been higher, but we don't know. This is why we like to have a few years of BABIP data for comparison. However, I don't think any of us expect Longoria to hit near .400 and slug over .800 in 150+ games like Babe Ruth in 1921 (ok maybe some of us do).
Iwamura has benefited from a bump in BABIP, but Aki has somehow been able to maintain a high number over the course of his two seasons. He should regress slightly, but not toward the level of a Jason Bartlett. In some fantastic news, despite hitting .280 with an OPS over 1.000 and six home runs, Carlos Pena is performing BELOW his BABIP norm. This doesn't mean Pena will hit like he did in 2007, but it's a pretty good sign that his early season hot streak is not a fluke. Another thing to watch is Pena's walk rate. Pena is only walking 10% of the time now. That number should increase to around 16% as we get deeper into the season which would push his OBP closer to the .380 mark.
While we have some guys outplaying their BABIP and should see some regression downward over the next few weeks, there is some promise in terms of line drive percentages. An absurdly high BABIP and LD% are not a good mix in terms of sustaining success. However, if a player has a high BABIP, but is maintaining a fair LD% their hot streak could last a bit longer. Here are the same five players, but with 2009 LD% compared to career.
|
Player |
LD% |
LD%Car. |
DIF |
|
Bartlett |
38.9 |
21 |
17.9 |
|
Longoria |
22.2 |
20 |
2.2 |
|
Pena |
19.4 |
18.8 |
0.6 |
|
Iwamura |
21.9 |
20.1 |
1.8 |
|
Zobrist |
5.9 |
17.8 |
-11.9 |
Oh, MVB please sustain this hot streak for as long as possible, because according to BABIP and LD% when it's over, the decline is going to be fast and steep. The good thing is we really shouldn't be depending Bartlett's stick anyway, and his glove has been better this year. Other than Bartlett, there really isn't anybody else on this list that has seen an abnormal increase in line drives and that's a very good thing.
The one thing I want to point out is what a statistical anomaly Ben Zobrist continues to be. Despite a high BABIP, Zobrist is hitting 12% less line drives than normal. The reason for the decrease in the liners is simple; Zobrist is mashing home runs at Ruthian rates. Zorilla currently has a 30% home run to flyball ratio. In 2008, there were two players who had a HR/FB% around 30%. Jack Cust finished second in the bigs with a 29.7 HR/FB% just behind Ryan Howard with a 31.8%. Howard, Cust... Zobrist? Yes, Benzo continues to baffle even the most advanced units sabermetrics and at this point I'm willing to just ride the wave of late inning lightning rather than try and figure it out.
Just like yesterday, I must warn you that we are dealing with very limited sample sizes. Also, BABIP and LD% aren't exact sciences or indicators of slumps and streaks. If this were the case then Major League Front Offices would be much easier to run if you knew exactly when a player was going to do well and when one was going to drop off. But for now we have a better idea of who's been slightly "lucky" and who has been treated a little unfairly by the baseball gods in terms of our Tampa Bay Rays during this young 2009 season.
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I keep thinking there's something we've missed along the way with Zobrist
I mean a .244 career BABIP is a little ridiculous isn’t it? Plus, in his ML time he’s been hurt a bunch and moved around positions a bunch. I think there’s a good chance he’s simply better than we all thought all along now that he’s adjusted fully to major league pitching. Not necessarily this good, but he should hit line drives more in line with his career average, and if he keeps hitting homers he should maintain a high BABIP.
I could be wrong though
Homeruns don't factor into the BABIP equation since they aren't really "in play" so to speak.
by R.J. Anderson on Apr 21, 2009 11:33 AM EDT up reply actions
I didn't think they did then I misread what you wrote and
well, just pretend I only said liners.
I could be wrong though
by staplemaniac on Apr 21, 2009 11:34 AM EDT up reply actions
I'm actually right there with you.
He’s not the next coming of Ruth, or even Rick Ankiel for that matter, but when we acquired him, he was considered an adequate short stop with good on base skills. When promoted to the majors, his defense at short obviously turned out to be less than spectacular, and his offense was exposed due to a lack of power. Since then, he’s completely re-altered his approach. He packed on more weight, his forearms are visibly stronger (ROIDS), and he’s changed his swing. He all ready had a good eye before that, so why is it that crazy to think he’s become a legitimate hitter?
If it were that easy wouldn't everybody just lift more and swing for the fences.
It’s clear that whatever Zobrist is doing is an “outlier.” That’s not to say it’s not real, but it’s definitely not something you’re going to see often.
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by Tommy Rancel on Apr 21, 2009 11:53 AM EDT up reply actions
An outlier for him
or for the general baseball population?
I could be wrong though
by staplemaniac on Apr 21, 2009 1:21 PM EDT up reply actions
General baseball.
Generally you don’t see 28-year-olds with track records like his become big time power hitters. it’s fascinating if it’s legitimate.
by R.J. Anderson on Apr 21, 2009 1:26 PM EDT up reply actions
What R.J.said
Some guys see a power increase with age that’s normal, but to go from no power to Jack Cust power is not the norm.
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by Tommy Rancel on Apr 21, 2009 1:34 PM EDT up reply actions
By the way, late to the post
but thanks for the hat tip.
by nyyfaninlaaland on Apr 21, 2009 2:07 PM EDT up reply actions
Every time we bash Zobrist and say he's in line to regress, he goes ahead and does something stupid like mash a homer.
If he keeps this up we have to either admit he’s gotten pretty good somehow and find a way to regularly have him in the lineup, or trade high and reap the rewards of a rediculously long hot streak.
"Where we all wait in earnest with pudding in hand for the Upton comet to sail through the roofed skies, so that we may meet Him."
This makes absolutely no sense whatsoever.
Minor league: 23 HR in 1,632 PA
08-09: 15 HR in 254 PA
by R.J. Anderson on Apr 21, 2009 11:47 AM EDT up reply actions
This is just one of those cases where you have to just sit back and love baseball.
Can’t explain it, but since it’s happening on our team so can’t complain about it.
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by Tommy Rancel on Apr 21, 2009 12:01 PM EDT up reply actions
Maybe the Nationals would give us Elijah for Zobrist.
by R.J. Anderson on Apr 21, 2009 12:03 PM EDT up reply actions
They need proven veteran relievers. Percival or Wheeler or both for Dukes
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by Tommy Rancel on Apr 21, 2009 12:05 PM EDT up reply actions
As long as they don't do charity work.
by R.J. Anderson on Apr 21, 2009 12:08 PM EDT up reply actions
Dukes is my favorite non-Ray, and that's the truth BUT
Did you see him walking after that hit to center last night. HILARIOUS
by Top Gun Numba 1 on Apr 21, 2009 12:09 PM EDT up reply actions
Matt Diaz (i think) hit a bloop single to center that bounced maybe 10 feet in front of Dukes
And he just walked slowly to pick it up, while Diaz stretched the single into a double
by Top Gun Numba 1 on Apr 21, 2009 12:12 PM EDT up reply actions
Dukes got paid for his appearance.
Also, the LL is paying the fine for him. This is the LL my little cousin played in and is right by where I lived up until a month ago. HOLLLAAAAAA!
I wish we would play 50% of our games vs the Nats.
Then we’d be sitting at 11-1 like the Marlins too.
"If a woman has to choose between catching a fly ball and saving an infant's life, she will choose to save the infant's life without even considering if there are men on base."
~Dave Barry
by PriceMultiCyYoungs on Apr 21, 2009 12:09 PM EDT up reply actions
On the same subject, but a different tangent...
Why the hell does BP insist on Dukes or Upton really being corner outfielders? Isn’t it more valuable to have a guy with good defense and even better offense play center? Especially when he’s all ready playing with two other great outfielders (in the case of Upton)?
I mean, so let’s see Desmond Jennings is a plus center field and obviously so is Upton… THEN WHAT DIFFERENCE DOES IT MAKE WHERE THEY PLAY?!
Dukes isn't very good defensively in center.
But I have no idea on Upton. Generally speaking, BP has no clue when it comes to anything of the defensive ideology. How you can analyze Mark Ellis’ extension, or almost any contact given out, without having some idea of how they play defensively is beyond me.
by R.J. Anderson on Apr 21, 2009 12:16 PM EDT up reply actions
This is a great point that's often overlooked.
You can both love a seemingly irrational hot streak, and be aware that it’s likely to end.
Beyond the Boxscore // Calling BJ Upton lazy is lazy.
That kind of minor-major split is probably more common than you think
Although it’s a little odd that it’s coming at Zobrist’s age.
Vogt early, Vogt often.
Unless he's now Ryan Howard.
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by Tommy Rancel on Apr 21, 2009 1:34 PM EDT up reply actions
Howard's nose is much more pronounced
now that he’s in shape. It was like his fat was disguising it.
I've always wondered. Is there really no statistical merrit to the manager's argument that a certain batter "changed his approach at the plate?"
Maddon has said repeatedly that he’s trying to get Bartlett to hit more liners. Granted there is only a certain measure of control the batter is able to exercise, but is it possible that Bartlett will have a higher career BABIP or LD% going forward than he has?
by Top Gun Numba 1 on Apr 21, 2009 11:49 AM EDT reply actions
Most of the time that's simply coachspeak.
Players are always making adjustments and 99% of the time they result in absolutely no change.
by R.J. Anderson on Apr 21, 2009 11:53 AM EDT up reply actions
Obviously Barty's not gonna keep up the 40% LD rate,
but that’s kind of my point. Sure, a lot of times managers/players make claims to change in approach (Sonny’s new changeup?) and nothing happens… but, every now and then, adjustments must make a difference. I don’t have a video comparison of Barty’s swing between this year and last year, but it certainly seems like he’s swinging the bat differently, without as much uppercut.
The same goes for Zobes. He was kind of skinny, slap hitter before. Now, he’s put on weight and he’s taking big hacks. Do we really have enough information to disprove that his altered approach and new physique haven’t made a difference? (double negative warning there)
Theres is nothing we have statistically that can explain Zobrist increase or anything to disprove what it came from.
That’s why I said
Yes, Benzo continues to baffle even the most advanced units sabermetrics and at this point I’m willing to just ride the wave of late inning lightning rather than try and figure it out.
Just ride it until the wheels fall off, if the ever do.
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by Tommy Rancel on Apr 21, 2009 11:56 AM EDT up reply actions
Everyone knows defense is under the pervue of Vishnu and his many arms.
Offense is the realm of the Western OT God
by Top Gun Numba 1 on Apr 21, 2009 11:59 AM EDT up reply actions
A contradictory picture of Yahweh
- the picture of a God who knew no moderation in his emotions and suffered precisely from this lack of moderation. He himself admitted that he was eaten up with rage and jealousy and that this knowledge was painful to him.
According to Jung, God’s still pissed about that “Jesus got nailed a lot comment” by RJ, thus taking it out upon him by turning Zobrist into a home run hitting disciple.
Wouldn't the punishment be him becoming a HR king after we deal him for peanuts?
by R.J. Anderson on Apr 21, 2009 12:05 PM EDT up reply actions
Fact: Carl Jung believed religion was a substitute for that drank
Which kind of brings it back to the Zorilla for Dukes trade
by Top Gun Numba 1 on Apr 21, 2009 12:12 PM EDT up reply actions
He's outplaying Carl too, what's your point?
by R.J. Anderson on Apr 21, 2009 2:03 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm weary of trying to ride a hot hand.
by R.J. Anderson on Apr 21, 2009 2:05 PM EDT up reply actions
If only I could come up with a joke for this
by Top Gun Numba 1 on Apr 21, 2009 2:06 PM EDT up reply actions
I think a simple
TWSS does it.
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by Tommy Rancel on Apr 21, 2009 2:06 PM EDT up reply actions
Approach
There is merit to BenZo changing his approach at the plate. His contact % has been steadily declining since his rookie season. He was an unsuccessful slappy hitter. He has learned to maximize his swings. Thats not to say he has 40 home run power. I don’t think 15 with regular playing time is expecting too much as a lower limit. Does anybody have information on his weight gain outside of the maked eye observation? He also is striking out at a much higher rate right now compared to his past (34.6%!). That should get closer to normal but with bigger hacks comes more whiffing.
I thought R.J said
we don’t make accusations about people being on ROIDS here.
"Yeah, I am not the old annoying guy next door. Heck, I don't even know who i am"
ok
there is no such thing as Perfomance enhancing deities
"Yeah, I am not the old annoying guy next door. Heck, I don't even know who i am"
baseball atheist
never heard of that one before.
"Yeah, I am not the old annoying guy next door. Heck, I don't even know who i am"
If there was such a thing
then every other “believer” in sports would be doing awesome right now.
"Yeah, I am not the old annoying guy next door. Heck, I don't even know who i am"
This is their way of testing the faith.
by R.J. Anderson on Apr 21, 2009 12:17 PM EDT up reply actions
seriously, do I have to quote Answer to Job again?
Fine. I fucking will.
The book of Job is a landmark in the long historical development of a divine drama. At the time the book was written, there were already many testimonies which had given a contradictory picture of Yahweh – the picture of a God who knew no moderation in his emotions and suffered precisely from this lack of moderation. He himself admitted that he was eaten up with rage and jealousy and that this knowledge was painful to him. Insight existed along with obtuseness, loving-kindness along with cruelty, creative power along with destructiveness. Everything was there, and none of these qualities was an obstacle to the other. Such a condition is only conceivable either when no reflecting consciousness is present at all, or when the capacity for reflection is very feeble and a more or less adventitious phenomenon. A condition of this sort can only be described as amoral.
silly human
explaining god through human eyes is like explaining zorilla through sabermetrics
I believe you mean god is dead
We live in a secular post-belief society. The Scorates/Jesus Ubermench is unattainable in our frail state.
by Top Gun Numba 1 on Apr 21, 2009 1:04 PM EDT up reply actions
Literary fail
I meant Goethe. How I confused Death of a Salesman with Faust I have no idea. Color me retarded.
Yeah, I was sitting there going,"... huh. Arthur Miller wrote about the book of Job?"
I haven’t actually had a chance to read Faust. It’s at the bottom of my list. Just finished up Gravity’s Rainbow, then I’ve got a bunch of Kathy Acker and Iian Sinclair I’ve been dying to read.
/literary dork
Faust is OK.
I’m not a big prose guy, so I generally prefer a play to most other things. As much as I’m working now, all I read during my free time is crappy popular fiction. Maybe I’ll read something good again if I go on vacation somewhere. I haven’t read anything of literary merit since I finished school last year.
I'm one of those assholes who spends way more time reading than I should.
But, I’m a copy writer, what the fuck do you want from me?
Atleast I don’t bring my laptop to the northeast tavern and pretend to write a novel, like certain people I’ve seen before.
I probably will again once I don't live with like my 2 best friends.
I come home from work at 6 or 8 and just chill and watch TV. Something I wouldn’t do if I didn’t live with them. I don’t watch TV except in social situations or sports. I would much prefer to read or play vid games.
this might be a problem for me.
I may move into a place with some friends. After work, I can’t see myself doing much except drinking beers and watching shitty movies with them.
Maniac Cop 2? Exterminator City? Flesh for Frankenstein? Fuck and yes.
Fact: Gravity's Rainbow is not a good enough book to merrit the effort you have to put in to read it.
Doubly so for V, or Lot 49.
Slow Learner is a hilarious collection because his stories are so very terrible.
by Top Gun Numba 1 on Apr 21, 2009 1:05 PM EDT up reply actions
Meh, it actually kind of cruises.
Certaintly the structuring is somewhat difficult to follow at times, but it wasn’t as painful to read as Finnegan’s Wake (fuck you, James Joyce).
I quoted Ulysses earlier.
I actually like Joyce, in the “I respect your ability to maniuplate the English language, but fuck you for butchering any and all attempt at telling a story” kind of way.
Cormac McCarthy though? Fuck and yes. Even when he rambles on about something meaningless, I take great joy in it. I highly recommend Suttree and Outer Dark.
Love McCarthy, but The Road is one of the more overrated books I've seen.
Can’t wait to watch the horrendous movie version
by Top Gun Numba 1 on Apr 21, 2009 1:12 PM EDT up reply actions
I love that he won the Pulitzer for it.
It certainly has some badass parts and some classic McCarthy prose, but it drags a lot. It was similar to No Country For Old Men in the sense that it was more thriller than over the top parable like alot of his earlier work, but it didn’t read quite as well. Even the incomprehensile parts of No Country for Old Men were fun.
It might translate well to a movie, though. I like the guys making it – The Proposition was a badass movie.
Might translate well to a movie?
What if I told you that the part with top billing is “wife”
by Top Gun Numba 1 on Apr 21, 2009 1:18 PM EDT up reply actions
.....
Becuase showing up for a flashback and committing suicide is worth top billing? Yikes.
/SPOILER’D
Charlize Theron
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0898367/
From the director of no movie I’ve ever seen.
by Top Gun Numba 1 on Apr 21, 2009 1:24 PM EDT up reply actions
There is a 99% chance they will turn the movie into
Lone Wolf & Cub
by Top Gun Numba 1 on Apr 21, 2009 1:24 PM EDT up reply actions
It's a dark and dreary book, but I don't know what Nick Cave is
by Top Gun Numba 1 on Apr 21, 2009 1:29 PM EDT up reply actions
Youtube "Nick Cave and the Bad Seeds"
And watch some of the music videos – he directed them, so you’d get a feel for the direction. Cave has an odd sensibility, so I suspect that he’d want the person directing his screenplay to have a similar sensibility.
Vogt early, Vogt often.
I don't think Nick Cave had anything to do with this movie
Other than his video director.
by Top Gun Numba 1 on Apr 21, 2009 1:35 PM EDT up reply actions
The Proposition.
Australian western. Danny Huston, Guy Pearce, written by Nick Cave. Kind of the Australian Heart of Darkness. It’s not perfect, but it’s pretty damned good.
Fact: Finnegan's Wake is the only book I've never been able to read
I’ve tried 5 times. Just can’t do it.
AND A RIVER RUNS
by Top Gun Numba 1 on Apr 21, 2009 1:10 PM EDT up reply actions
Which is not to say I can cruise through Faulkner or anything
by Top Gun Numba 1 on Apr 21, 2009 1:10 PM EDT up reply actions
Basically, I'm a pregnant 13 year old girl
by Top Gun Numba 1 on Apr 21, 2009 1:30 PM EDT up reply actions
Jesus I hate off-days and west coast road trips.
This is what we get reduced to.
by ReasonableDoubt on Apr 21, 2009 1:42 PM EDT up reply actions
The worst part is that we have three regulars slugging over .600 and our offense is still a question mark.
Well, there's probably a juiced ball this year
I think the sample is big enough at this point to say that the ball is flying further than last year. So a .600 slugging percentage probably won’t mean as much as last year by the end of this year. Problem is that the range of variance that MLB gives the manufacturers in terms of ball elasticity is just huge.
Vogt early, Vogt often.
See, I should read your other blogs too
I don’t think the ball is being intentionally juiced though. I think it’s just natural variance in the manufacturing process, and that MLB gives the manufacturers too much leeway in the elasticity range. The people who make the balls recalibrate the machines in the offseason, plus there are other random factors to take into account (i.e. if trees were cut down during a particularly rainy year, the cork centers would be spongier, etc.)
I remember reading a very convincing article about a year back though which convinced me that the ball was indeed juiced for much of the late 90’s, early 00’s.
Vogt early, Vogt often.
ahh
slow news day for me
"Yeah, I am not the old annoying guy next door. Heck, I don't even know who i am"
I don't think this is pay only, but Jamie Shields on the ol' BP
by Top Gun Numba 1 on Apr 21, 2009 1:31 PM EDT reply actions
DL: You’ve had far less success pitching on the road than you have at home. Is that something that you need to fix—not the results, but the process?
JS: I think the process definitely needs to be fixed. There’s no doubt. I feel that the last couple of years I haven’t been as consistent as I want to be as far as my routine goes. I talked to Joe Maddon and Andrew Friedman about it during spring training, and it’s not a big concern of mine. It’s just one of those things where I haven’t done as well on the road as I have at home, so we’re going to try to have my routine be a little more consistent this year and see what happens.
by Top Gun Numba 1 on Apr 21, 2009 1:33 PM EDT up reply actions
I self-evaluated myself after reading that.
Do you think Joe and Freidman branded everyone with “processes” during spring training, right on the ass?
Goldstein had an article up today about the draft.
But no mention of Strasburg touching 115. I was disappointed.
Stupid Borchering keeps hitting too well to drop to us :(
by R.J. Anderson on Apr 21, 2009 1:40 PM EDT up reply actions
He better knock it off.
Else we might have to pay Elijah to break his ankle or something so he drops back down to us.
BABIP--with players striking out
more frequently, isn’t the BABIP skewed a bit higher?
Hmm, how can we try and derail that thread.
by Top Gun Numba 1 on Apr 21, 2009 2:02 PM EDT up reply actions
I don't know what Kelise is
But if it’s a type-o of Kelis, then I only really know the one lyric
by Top Gun Numba 1 on Apr 21, 2009 2:03 PM EDT up reply actions
The wheel in the sky keeps on turning.
by R.J. Anderson on Apr 21, 2009 2:06 PM EDT up reply actions
ANY WAY YOU WANT
THAT’S THE WAY YOU NEEEEEED IT
by Top Gun Numba 1 on Apr 21, 2009 2:07 PM EDT up reply actions
Car commercials have ruined many a song.
by R.J. Anderson on Apr 21, 2009 2:07 PM EDT up reply actions
Example 1: Happy Jack used in a Hummer Commercial
Example 2 (non-car commercial bracket): Lust for Life used by Carnival Cruiselines
by Top Gun Numba 1 on Apr 21, 2009 2:08 PM EDT up reply actions
I fail to see how he won't get bombed out of every game this year
even by bad teams.
by putupyourDUKES on Apr 21, 2009 2:29 PM EDT up reply actions
If he wasn't so hittable, you'd have a point.
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